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Title: Michigan state..
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 20, 2014, 06:25:48 PM
Are they a bad loss now????

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Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on December 20, 2014, 06:30:14 PM
Losing to a SWAC team at home.   :o
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 20, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
Are they a bad loss now????

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Maybe, but we are a different team now that Luke is playing. We'll know what kind of team we have after the first 5 games in conference.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2014, 07:32:03 PM
Losing to a SWAC team at home.   :o

Not a typical SWAC team tho.

Chris Thomas is one of the more talented kids in college basketball, period
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 20, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Are they a bad loss now????

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No
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on December 20, 2014, 08:08:36 PM
Not a typical SWAC team tho.

Chris Thomas is one of the more talented kids in college basketball, period

Seriously, they are 2-8.  Chris Thomas is shooting 41% from the field, 28% from 3 and 58% from the FT line.  He as an assist to TO ratio of around 0.6. 

They are a typical SWAC team.

Michigan St. has lived by the 3 this season.  Today they were 4-21. 
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Seriously, they are 2-8.  Chris Thomas is shooting 41% from the field, 28% from 3 and 58% from the FT line.  He as an assist to TO ratio of around 0.6. 

They are a typical SWAC team.

Michigan St. has lived by the 3 this season.  Today they were 4-21. 

Sometimes numbers are misleading.

Dig deeper.

And get back to me in March!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: We R Final Four on December 20, 2014, 08:15:01 PM
You can disagree with JB, but you would be wrong.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on December 20, 2014, 08:20:25 PM
Sometimes numbers are misleading.

Dig deeper.

And get back to me in March!

Well for them to be playing in March they have to get past Southern, which I don't think they can.  I would also take Tre Lynch from Southern over Thomas.

Also, his numbers are almost identical to last year, so I doubt they are misleading.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2014, 08:57:02 PM
Well for them to be playing in March they have to get past Southern, which I don't think they can.  I would also take Tre Lynch from Southern over Thomas.

Also, his numbers are almost identical to last year, so I doubt they are misleading.

Most anything can happen in a conference tourney, so there's certainly a good chance Texas Southern doesn't make the NCAA tourney. However, any decent person would project them to be there (despite being 2-8 today).

For what purpose you'd be taking Tre Lynch I don't know, but you may have him and I'll gladly take Chris.

Thomas' numbers season-to-date are very similar to last year's. Differences include a diff team and a major, major one ---> strength of competition this year is FAR better than a year ago. Let's see how things progress the rest of the year.

I don't mean this in the wrong way, but as others have pointed out you may disagree with me on this, but you are wrong.

(PS - I'm kind of kidding in the tone above, but VERY serious about both Chris and Texas Southern)
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 20, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
One of the more talented kids in college basketball period, is one of the biggest exaggerations I have seen.

You can't be serious with that.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on December 21, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
Not a typical SWAC team tho.

Chris Thomas is one of the more talented kids in college basketball, period

Before yesterday, they had one win and 8 double digit losses. They've played a tough schedule, but calling that anything other than an awful loss would be a lie. Texas Southern could run the table in the SWAC and that would still be a bad loss.

The truth lies somewhere in between. TSU may be a SWAC title contender, but they are still a SWAC team. Michigan State isn't as good as they usually are. There's no sugar coating that this is a game they should win 100 out of 100 times.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 21, 2014, 08:52:33 AM
Sometimes numbers are misleading.

Dig deeper.

And get back to me in March!

I'd love for you to expand on "Dig deeper"?  At what exactly? 

Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: GGGG on December 21, 2014, 10:22:44 AM
Before yesterday, they had one win and 8 double digit losses. They've played a tough schedule, but calling that anything other than an awful loss would be a lie. Texas Southern could run the table in the SWAC and that would still be a bad loss.

The truth lies somewhere in between. TSU may be a SWAC title contender, but they are still a SWAC team. Michigan State isn't as good as they usually are. There's no sugar coating that this is a game they should win 100 out of 100 times.


The SWAC is usually toward the bottom of conference RPI ratings and oftentimes their champion participates in one of the Dayton play in games.  Texas Southern may be the best of that bunch, but that simply means it is the top turd on the dungpile.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 21, 2014, 10:56:45 AM
I'd love for you to expand on "Dig deeper"?  At what exactly? 



He cannot reveal his secrets!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 21, 2014, 10:59:07 AM
He cannot reveal his secrets!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 21, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
The truth lies somewhere in between. TSU may be a SWAC title contender, but they are still a SWAC team. Michigan State isn't as good as they usually are. There's no sugar coating that this is a game they should win 100 out of 100 times.

The truth lies somewhere not in alignment with what you said. This is not a game they should have won 100 out of 100 times.

Anyway.. Texas Southern IS (not may be) a SWAC title contender. If you dispute that you are wrong.
Texas Southern does have a 5-star recruit and a Big Ten transfer.
Texas Southern does have a former Big Ten head coach.

I said they are not a typical SWAC team. Fully stand by that.

Chris + NBA
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on December 21, 2014, 02:50:20 PM
The truth lies somewhere not in alignment with what you said. This is not a game they should have won 100 out of 100 times.

Anyway.. Texas Southern IS (not may be) a SWAC title contender. If you dispute that you are wrong.
Texas Southern does have a 5-star recruit and a Big Ten transfer.
Texas Southern does have a former Big Ten head coach.

I said they are not a typical SWAC team. Fully stand by that.

Chris + NBA

Thomas may have once been a 5-star recruit, in 2012.  Because of legal and academic troubles he went to JC.  He greatly underperformed there and no one would touch him.  He went to Marshall, and was mediocre at best, got into legal troubles again and had to transfer.  He has continued to be mediocre at best at Texas Southern.

Maybe he has the talent to turn it around, but history says he was over-rated or wasted his talent.  I can't see how any NBA team would gamble on a mediocre talent at the lowest levels of D1 basketball that is a known character/legal problem.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on December 21, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
The truth lies somewhere not in alignment with what you said. This is not a game they should have won 100 out of 100 times.

Anyway.. Texas Southern IS (not may be) a SWAC title contender. If you dispute that you are wrong.
Texas Southern does have a 5-star recruit and a Big Ten transfer.
Texas Southern does have a former Big Ten head coach.

I said they are not a typical SWAC team. Fully stand by that.

Chris + NBA

Because of all that, TSU will contend for the SWAC. But this is a team that lost their last 3 by 91 points. Tough competition? Sure. But no tougher than MSU usually is. The Spartans lost because they aren't as good as they normally are. Tom Izzo hasn't lost a buy game since 2002. Maybe 100/100 is hyperbole, but barely.

Michigan State is down this year. They don't have the quality or experience they have typically had the past 15 years. They were overrated in the preseason and were overrated being in the top-25. They should be a tourney team, but they are more suited for the 9-12 seed lines than the top-4 they are accustomed to.

If this was a typical MSU team, they win this game. That's no disrespect to TSU, it's just that teams like that shouldn't lose to SWAC teams. Just like Marquette shouldn't lose to Omaha. These things happen, but the reason is more about the host than it is the buy opponent.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 21, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
The truth lies somewhere not in alignment with what you said. This is not a game they should have won 100 out of 100 times.

Anyway.. Texas Southern IS (not may be) a SWAC title contender. If you dispute that you are wrong.
Texas Southern does have a 5-star recruit and a Big Ten transfer.
Texas Southern does have a former Big Ten head coach.

I said they are not a typical SWAC team. Fully stand by that.

Chris + NBA

You've really got a hard on for these guys and most notably Thomas. Blowing your load all over gopher hole as well.

He isn't that good...
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Texas Western on December 21, 2014, 07:16:12 PM
Because of all that, TSU will contend for the SWAC. But this is a team that lost their last 3 by 91 points. Tough competition? Sure. But no tougher than MSU usually is. The Spartans lost because they aren't as good as they normally are. Tom Izzo hasn't lost a buy game since 2002. Maybe 100/100 is hyperbole, but barely.

Michigan State is down this year. They don't have the quality or experience they have typically had the past 15 years. They were overrated in the preseason and were overrated being in the top-25. They should be a tourney team, but they are more suited for the 9-12 seed lines than the top-4 they are accustomed to.

If this was a typical MSU team, they win this game. That's no disrespect to TSU, it's just that teams like that shouldn't lose to SWAC teams. Just like Marquette shouldn't lose to Omaha. These things happen, but the reason is more about the host than it is the buy opponent.
I agree with this analysis, MSU is down this year .Still by any accounts losing to Texas Southern is unacceptable .
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: tower912 on December 21, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2014/12/20/michigan-state-texas-southern/20699709/

It is almost worth a loss like this to get quotes like this from Izzo.   And all the players admitting culpability, as well as dreading what was to come in the Sunday practice. 
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 21, 2014, 09:04:37 PM
For anyone who is intrigued by the Texas Southern talk, here is an article I found that is a good write up of the program.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/23/mike-davis-reloads-texas-southern-with-a-big-ten-transfer-and-former-five-star-prospect-chris-thomas-deverell-biggs/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/23/mike-davis-reloads-texas-southern-with-a-big-ten-transfer-and-former-five-star-prospect-chris-thomas-deverell-biggs/)
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 21, 2014, 09:21:05 PM
For anyone who is intrigued by the Texas Southern talk, here is an article I found that is a good write up of the program.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/23/mike-davis-reloads-texas-southern-with-a-big-ten-transfer-and-former-five-star-prospect-chris-thomas-deverell-biggs/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/23/mike-davis-reloads-texas-southern-with-a-big-ten-transfer-and-former-five-star-prospect-chris-thomas-deverell-biggs/)

Typical SWAC team.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: keefe on December 21, 2014, 09:27:13 PM
Seriously, they are 2-8. 

But they are a really skilled 2-8
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 22, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
Before yesterday, they had one win and 8 double digit losses. They've played a tough schedule, but calling that anything other than an awful loss would be a lie. Texas Southern could run the table in the SWAC and that would still be a bad loss.

The truth lies somewhere in between. TSU may be a SWAC title contender, but they are still a SWAC team. Michigan State isn't as good as they usually are. There's no sugar coating that this is a game they should win 100 out of 100 times.

Absolutely hysterical coming from the guy that took great pains to spin the UN-O & NJIT games as nothing more than "bad matchups" due to pace of play. Simply hysterical!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: g0lden3agle on December 22, 2014, 10:45:28 AM
Absolutely hysterical coming from the guy that took great pains to spin the UN-O & NJIT games as nothing more than "bad matchups" due to pace of play. Simply hysterical!

Since when are "bad matchup" and "bas loss" mutually exclusive?  A far inferior team could still be a bad matchup.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: GGGG on December 22, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
Absolutely hysterical coming from the guy that took great pains to spin the UN-O & NJIT games as nothing more than "bad matchups" due to pace of play. Simply hysterical!


You mean the game he called a "bad loss?"
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on December 22, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
Absolutely hysterical coming from the guy that took great pains to spin the UN-O & NJIT games as nothing more than "bad matchups" due to pace of play. Simply hysterical!

They were bad matchups. One of the reasons teams lose to buy opponents is not just because they aren't as good as usual (like Michigan State or Marquette early in the season) but because that specific buy opponent can exploit those weaknesses.

Though more hysterical is your failure to read this...

If this was a typical MSU team, they win this game. That's no disrespect to TSU, it's just that teams like that shouldn't lose to SWAC teams. Just like Marquette shouldn't lose to Omaha. These things happen, but the reason is more about the host than it is the buy opponent.

We shouldn't lose that game, MSU shouldn't have lost this game, but there are reasons these losses happened. As I said before, the truth lies somewhere in between. The host teams aren't as good as they usually are, and the teams playing them were at least competent enough to exploit that.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: MU82 on December 22, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2014/12/20/michigan-state-texas-southern/20699709/

It is almost worth a loss like this to get quotes like this from Izzo.   And all the players admitting culpability, as well as dreading what was to come in the Sunday practice. 

Thanks for sharing that link. This is great, great stuff. I've always been a big Izzo fan.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: keefe on December 22, 2014, 02:37:57 PM
I've always been a big Izzo fan.

But Tom Izzo is a little guy...
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 22, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
But Tom Izzo is a little guy...

Big Izzo vs. Mini Ditka, who ya got?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on December 22, 2014, 05:53:52 PM
Big Izzo vs. Mini Ditka, who ya got?

I don't know, but I'd invite them both over for a game of Sheepshead.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 07:17:59 PM
Absolutely hysterical coming from the guy that took great pains to spin the UN-O & NJIT games as nothing more than "bad matchups" due to pace of play. Simply hysterical!

So...me trying to spin NJIT must look real bad now after they beat Michigan and are leading Villanova in Philly. Maybe you should actually research the game yourself before you try to tear down the comments made by people that spend time doing so.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 23, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
So...me trying to spin NJIT must look real bad now after they beat Michigan and are leading Villanova in Philly. Maybe you should actually research the game yourself before you try to tear down the comments made by people that spend time doing so.

Nova survives... by 25.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 23, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
So...me trying to spin NJIT must look real bad now after they beat Michigan and are leading Villanova in Philly. Maybe you should actually research the game yourself before you try to tear down the comments made by people that spend time doing so.

LOLOL! Learn to talk before the game is over. Nova wins by 25. They were projected to win by 27. NJIT is ranked #268 in KenPom for a reason. They suck. As does Michigan, as evidenced in part by the fact that they LOST TO NJIT AT HOME.

Dude. You honestly sound desperate. It's NJIT. They suck. They've always sucked (with or without a pair of "mercurial guards" haha). Everyone knows this. But keep tilting at that windmill if it floats your boat I guess.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Anti-Dentite on December 23, 2014, 10:42:34 PM
Laugh out loud out loud?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 11:11:52 PM
LOLOL! Learn to talk before the game is over. Nova wins by 25. They were projected to win by 27. NJIT is ranked #268 in KenPom for a reason. They suck. As does Michigan, as evidenced in part by the fact that they LOST TO NJIT AT HOME.

Dude. You honestly sound desperate. It's NJIT. They suck. They've always sucked (with or without a pair of "mercurial guards" haha). Everyone knows this. But keep tilting at that windmill if it floats your boat I guess.

Not at all desperate. Never expected NJIT to win but they showed they could play with a top-10 team. They fell off, just like UND last night, but dismissing a team just because you aren't familiar with them is a mistake. Ask Michigan, Michigan State, or Purdue.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: keefe on December 24, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
The truth lies somewhere not in alignment with what you said. This is not a game they should have won 100 out of 100 times.

Anyway.. Texas Southern IS (not may be) a SWAC title contender. If you dispute that you are wrong.
Texas Southern does have a 5-star recruit and a Big Ten transfer.
Texas Southern does have a former Big Ten head coach.

I said they are not a typical SWAC team. Fully stand by that.

Chris + NBA

How dare you challenge the resident hoops expert! This man writes for IWB's pay site! You forget yourself, sir, in the presence of basketball expertise! How dare you!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on December 28, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
Typical SWAC team Texas Southern wins at Kansas State today.

Big Chris NBA with the bucket to win it with 1 second left on the clock. Big Chris NBA with 15p, 10r, 2a, 2s only 2to.

Lost by 1 at Auburn in between Mich St and K-State. Brewtown boi Cinmeon Bowers wit 15 rebounds. 35% DR% this year!! SHEESH.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: keefe on December 28, 2014, 04:48:30 PM
Typical SWAC team Texas Southern wins at Kansas State today.

Big Chris NBA with the bucket to win it with 1 second left on the clock. Big Chris NBA with 15p, 10r, 2a, 2s only 2to.

Lost by 1 at Auburn in between Mich St and K-State. Brewtown boi Cinmeon Bowers wit 15 rebounds. 35% DR% this year!! SHEESH.

How dare you mock Brewcity's self-proclaimed claimed basketball expertise! You forget yourself and your place! How dare you!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 04, 2015, 07:42:07 PM
Two point loss at New Mexico State.

First conference game - on the road, the Typical SWAC Team (TST)  ekes out a 17 point win.

Big Chris NBA w/18p, 10r on 72.7% eFG shooting.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 10, 2015, 10:06:06 PM
Typical SWAC team Texas Southern starts their conference season out with three road games. Tonight they win again and are 3-0 in the SWAC.

Big Chris NBA with 18 & 6.

Texas Southern projects to have one of the best all-time RPI's in SWAC history. Typical.

If they make the tourney, would hate to face them in the first round. Scary (even though a typical SWAC team).
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on January 11, 2015, 12:42:11 AM
I get it, you are in love with Texas Southern. I guess beating three sub-290 conference foes is supposed to wow people? Until they outdo Southern's performance vs Gonzaga they've accomplished nothing.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 11, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
I get it, you are in love with Texas Southern. I guess beating three sub-290 conference foes is supposed to wow people? Until they outdo Southern's performance vs Gonzaga they've accomplished nothing.

This isn't about wowing people. This isn't about love.

This is about being "a typical SWAC team" - you're now trying to change the conversation into something it never was.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on January 11, 2015, 07:20:27 AM
They went 3-9 in non-conference. Pulled off a big win against an overrated MSU team that was definitely impressive but not unprecedented for the league. Are they above average for their league? Sure. They're probably going to win the SWAC. But until they win a game (or at least keep it close to the last 2 minutes) in March, or put Chris Thomas in the league (tough ask for a sub-60% FT & sub-30% 3P shooter) there won't be a lot to separate them from other SWAC teams that dominate their league but come up short outside it.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 11, 2015, 08:18:10 AM
They went 3-9 in non-conference. Pulled off a big win against an overrated MSU team that was definitely impressive but not unprecedented for the league. Are they above average for their league? Sure. They're probably going to win the SWAC. But until they win a game (or at least keep it close to the last 2 minutes) in March, or put Chris Thomas in the league (tough ask for a sub-60% FT & sub-30% 3P shooter) there won't be a lot to separate them from other SWAC teams that dominate their league but come up short outside it.

"Dominate their league"... that's what the topic is. "Typical SWAC team."  Do you still believe they are a typical SWAC team? And what would change your opinion? If they win a single NCAA tourney game on a particular day in March?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: MU82 on January 11, 2015, 08:25:14 AM
I also am having a hard time boarding the Texas Southern/Chris Thomas bandwagon.

I am a proof-in-the-pudding kind of guy. Both Thomas as an individual and TSU as a team will get the chance to prove themselves on the big stage ... if they win their conference tournament.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on January 11, 2015, 09:13:37 AM
"Dominate their league"... that's what the topic is. "Typical SWAC team."  Do you still believe they are a typical SWAC team? And what would change your opinion? If they win a single NCAA tourney game on a particular day in March?

I am a fan of a high-major team. When I watch other games, they are usually high-major games. When you're talking about a SWAC team (or MEAC, or NEC, or America East, or A-Sun) that isn't typical, I don't mean they can pummel a bunch of other low-majors, I mean they would be able to be competitive on a nightly basis in a high-major league. I just don't think Texas Southern is that kind of team. Those teams are very rare, which means for me the standard of a "typical _________ team" is pretty broad.

I don't have the time or initiative to watch all the low-majors, so for me to have my opinion changed, yeah, winning a game on a particular day in March is where I'd start to put the bar. Or having better than a 0.250 winning percentage in non-conference. Or winning their conference games by an average of 30+. If I were a fan of SWAC teams in general, I'm sure my standards would be different. But I'm not, so they aren't. In low-major hoops, the only team that really moves the dial at all for me is Stephen F. Austin. I guess that's where we differ.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 11, 2015, 10:40:45 AM
Typical SWAC team Texas Southern starts their conference season out with three road games. Tonight they win again and are 3-0 in the SWAC.

Big Chris NBA with 18 & 6.

Texas Southern projects to have one of the best all-time RPI's in SWAC history. Typical.

If they make the tourney, would hate to face them in the first round. Scary (even though a typical SWAC team).

No one cares about Texas Southern or your boner for Big Chris.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 11, 2015, 11:15:25 AM
No one cares about Texas Southern or your boner for Big Chris.

That's irrelevant. Tell me they are a typical SWAC team (lie) or are not (truth). That's what matters.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 21, 2015, 07:35:18 PM
Texas Southern has moved to 5-0 in the SWAC. The typical SWAC team is now 8-10 on the season.

Big Chris NBA Status shooting a blistering 57.8% eFG in conference play.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 08, 2015, 11:36:21 AM
JB,

Why no update on Texas Southern's loss to the almighty Prairie View A&M, at home?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: The Equalizer on February 08, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
JB,

Why no update on Texas Southern's loss to the almighty Prairie View A&M, at home?

For the curious, Texas Southern now tied for 2nd with Southern at 8-2 in conference, 11-12 overall.

Alabama State in first at 9-1, 13-6 overall.  

Overall Chris Thomas ranks 6th in the league in scoring, 15th in rebounding
Conference only, he's 9th in ppg, 14th in rpg.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on February 08, 2015, 01:56:55 PM
JB,

Why no update on Texas Southern's loss to the almighty Prairie View A&M, at home?

It was a late game on a Saturday night - you need real-time updates?

Obviously the loss of Dev Biggs, a HM-transfer, and the injury to Big Chris NBA have hurt the team. When two of your double-digit scorers are out of the lineup, the scenery is a bit different.

Nonetheless Big Chris NBA Prime Time Status Elite played last night after missing time with his ankle injury.

Looking forward to a healthy Chris and team so we can reach the tourney and knock someone off! Go Tigers!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on February 23, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Big Chris Thomas NBA Status Platinum Elite has been hurt and having a rough go of it. Texas Southern with the DB suspension and Chris being hurt has struggled, but they got another win tonight behind 22p and 10r (5 offensive) by Big Chris Doin Thangs Next Level Type Daily.

The typical SWAC team is now 12-2 in conference and faces off with Alabama St. - also 12-2 - on Saturday. Only Southern is within striking distance of the two conference leaders, but their hopes are mostly faded with a 2 point loss to Alabama St. tonight.

Let's get healthy and in the tournament.. then we can complete this typical SWAC team year with an NCAA "shocker."

(http://i.imgur.com/Tc0AW5A.png)
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2015, 07:49:58 PM
Texas Southern = victorious tonight! All alone in first place in the SWAC. Typical.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on February 28, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
Texas Southern = victorious tonight! All alone in first place in the SWAC. Typical.

Isn't there typically a first place team in the SWAC?  So if when you meant not a typical SWAC team, you meant they had a chance to win their conference (which still isn't given with only a couple games left), then I guess you were right.  I would have assumed an atypical SWAC team would have easily run the table.

Also, if your idea of an atypical SWAC player and future NBA'er is a guy who is the 2nd best player on his team, then I guess you were also right.

We were just speaking different languages.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Isn't there typically a first place team in the SWAC?  So if when you meant not a typical SWAC team, you meant they had a chance to win their conference (which still isn't given with only a couple games left), then I guess you were right.  I would have assumed an atypical SWAC team would have easily run the table.

Also, if your idea of an atypical SWAC player and future NBA'er is a guy who is the 2nd best player on his team, then I guess you were also right.

We were just speaking different languages.

I made it clear why they are not a typical SWAC team - it wasn't about winning the conference. It was about a 5-star recruit, a Big Ten transfer, a former Big Ten coach, etc. Now, the Big Ten transfer was out for most of the conference season.. and Big Chris was injured and missed time.. but things may come together beautifully here at the end of the year.

And you can claim Chris is the 2nd best player on his team, but others would disagree.. and say he's the best player in the conference on an objective basis.

(http://i.imgur.com/hadMGmP.png)

PS - since the last loss, when someone was quick to post in this thread asking where I was, Texas Southern has won 5 in a row. Biggs back tonight. Look out!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 28, 2015, 10:43:08 PM
This love affair is mildly disturbing
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 28, 2015, 11:18:01 PM
This love affair is mildly typically disturbing

FIFY
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on March 01, 2015, 07:35:17 AM
The bar for them proving themselves atypical is simple. Beat one higher seeded team in March. Until they do that, color me unimpressed.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 01, 2015, 07:45:13 AM
The bar for them proving themselves atypical is simple. Beat one higher seeded team in March. Until they do that, color me unimpressed.

Even though the tourney "is a crapshoot", fine. Damn it, we'll do it.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 06, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
We have clinched the regular season SWAC championship. 15-2 with one to play tomorrow night. 12 pt / 100 efficiency margin in conference play.

Hope we win the tourney and get a chance to knock off someone in the NCAA tourney. Go Tigers!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 06, 2015, 06:30:31 PM
We have clinched the regular season SWAC championship. 15-2 with one to play tomorrow night. 12 pt / 100 efficiency margin in conference play.

Hope we win the tourney and get a chance to knock off someone in the NCAA tourney. Go Tigers!!

"We"?????

Are you a Texas Southern alum?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 09, 2015, 10:29:32 AM
Our coach Mike Davis was named the conference COY today. Typical!

Also, our women had to brawl with Sourhern's, resulting in a double forfeit. Crazay!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: wadesworld on March 09, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Does Crean take over Texas Southern when he gets fired next year and Mike Davis takes over a falling-apart mid to high major?
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2015, 04:25:36 AM
We made it! Texas Southern is tourney-bound! We've gone through Chris and Biggs missing time this year and that made things a little tougher.. but things have come together nicely.

Last night we won 90-77 to earn an NCAA tourney bid. Big Chris Essential Nutrients NBA scored 23 points on 60.7 eFG% and 10 trips to the line. 5 rebounds (2 off), 2 blocks, 3 steals, only 1 turnover. Nice work, my man!!

Excited to see who we play next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: forgetful on March 14, 2015, 05:33:16 AM
We made it! Texas Southern is tourney-bound! We've gone through Chris and Biggs missing time this year and that made things a little tougher.. but things have come together nicely.

Last night we won 90-77 to earn an NCAA tourney bid. Big Chris Essential Nutrients NBA scored 23 points on 60.7 eFG% and 10 trips to the line. 5 rebounds (2 off), 2 blocks, 3 steals, only 1 turnover. Nice work, my man!!

Excited to see who we play next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure what kind of crack you are smoking, but usually they need to win their conference tournament to make the NCAAs.  Last I checked they are playing in the final today.

edit:  Apparently, they are not your typical SWAC team, they may be the first team not to win their conference tournament and not be an at large team, but still be in the tournament.  They didn't even punch their own ticket (yet), they got in on a technicality of another team losing. 

SWAC also must have a lot of NBA talent, as your lover was the 4th best player today in the SWAC.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 14, 2015, 08:18:36 AM
We made it! Texas Southern is tourney-bound! We've gone through Chris and Biggs missing time this year and that made things a little tougher.. but things have come together nicely.

Last night we won 90-77 to earn an NCAA tourney bid. Big Chris Essential Nutrients NBA scored 23 points on 60.7 eFG% and 10 trips to the line. 5 rebounds (2 off), 2 blocks, 3 steals, only 1 turnover. Nice work, my man!!

Excited to see who we play next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're quite boastful considering a) they haven't done anything yet NCAA tournament speaking, and b) they're "tourney bound" due to both other semifinal teams being ineligible for the NCAA tournament because of being slapped down by the NCAA over academic progress rating (whatever it's called).

ESPNU should pull the plug on today's SWAC title game, what is the point in anyone watching that crap game with the knowledge the winner means nothing.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 14, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
We made it! Texas Southern is tourney-bound! We've gone through Chris and Biggs missing time this year and that made things a little tougher.. but things have come together nicely.

Last night we won 90-77 to earn an NCAA tourney bid. Big Chris Essential Nutrients NBA scored 23 points on 60.7 eFG% and 10 trips to the line. 5 rebounds (2 off), 2 blocks, 3 steals, only 1 turnover. Nice work, my man!!

Excited to see who we play next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does Big Chris make the NBA with an Orating of 95.6?  He even dipped in the SWAC from when he was in CUSA. Looks like a high usage, low efficiency horse.  Carrie Underwood-like?

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/texas-southern/2-chris-thomas
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: brewcity77 on March 14, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
Also not much of a shooter. 27% from three and 55% from the line won't be very enticing in a league where athleticism is largely muted because everyone is just as athletic.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: GGGG on March 14, 2015, 11:03:27 AM
You're quite boastful considering a) they haven't done anything yet NCAA tournament speaking, and b) they're "tourney bound" due to both other semifinal teams being ineligible for the NCAA tournament because of being slapped down by the NCAA over academic progress rating (whatever it's called).

ESPNU should pull the plug on today's SWAC title game, what is the point in anyone watching that crap game with the knowledge the winner means nothing.



The SWAC let NCAA ineligible teams compete in the conference championship?  That's dumb.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 14, 2015, 11:04:57 AM

The SWAC let NCAA ineligible teams compete in the conference championship?  That's dumb.

Yep, I believe the university presidents in the league voted on it.  
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2015, 11:06:25 AM
Injuries, baby! We're feeling better now -- ready & primed for the tourney!!

Hoping for a 2/15 tilt w Becky so we can take down another Big Ten team!!!

Need some "one more year" chants for my guy!!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Anti-Dentite on March 14, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Injuries, baby! We're feeling better now -- ready & primed for the tourney!!

Hoping for a 2/15 tilt w Becky so we can take down another Big Ten team!!!

Need some "one more year" chants for my guy!!!
I'm on board with that! Go Texas Southern!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 14, 2015, 11:44:39 AM
Very bizarre.
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2015, 12:44:48 PM
Not sure what kind of crack you are smoking, but usually they need to win their conference tournament to make the NCAAs.  Last I checked they are playing in the final today.

edit:  Apparently, they are not your typical SWAC team, they may be the first team not to win their conference tournament and not be an at large team, but still be in the tournament.  They didn't even punch their own ticket (yet), they got in on a technicality of another team losing. 

SWAC also must have a lot of NBA talent, as your lover was the 4th best player today in the SWAC.

I applaud you for keeping your original post.

At any rate, BOILER UP!!!!
Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 15, 2015, 10:09:35 PM
Arizona, pffft, no problem for the atypical SWAC representative Texas Southern Tigers, right JayBee?  ::)

Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on November 15, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
BIG CHRIS NBA STATUS! took on Big East foe Creighton tonight.. 26p, 5r, 5a

Title: Re: Michigan state..
Post by: Jay Bee on January 24, 2016, 12:38:44 AM
BIG CHRIS NBA STATUS goes to 6-0!!!!!!!!!!!