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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Lighthouse 84 on December 19, 2014, 09:42:02 PM

Title: SOTG
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 19, 2014, 09:42:02 PM
Ok. I know SOTG should come at game's end, but the Anti-Heros are making it hard to watch the end of this game.

No one has distinguished himself as a clear cut SOTG but I'm going with the big Fish again. He's been perfect from the field and otherwise fun to watch. Nice to see Teve have some confidence and a couple dunks. Du needs to be under control more but he's going to be SOTG for many games to come in his Warrior career.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2014, 09:44:06 PM
Hard to not go Luke since he hasn't even missed a free throw yet. This game really wasn't fair though.

But I really like what Steve did tonight. Making jumpers, sweet post moves.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
Missed two free throws!! Give it to Steve!!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 19, 2014, 09:45:40 PM
LUUUUUUUUUUKE!

Honorable mention to Steve and Juan.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Nevada233 on December 19, 2014, 09:46:04 PM
Hard to not go Luke since he hasn't even missed a free throw yet. This game really wasn't fair though.

But I really like what Steve did tonight. Making jumpers, sweet post moves.

#12 SOTG.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 19, 2014, 09:47:03 PM
#12 SOTG.

Bitter much?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: forgetful on December 19, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
Steve, Juan and Luke all played fabulous (also Carlino with 8 assists), but I say give it to Juan for the complete floor game, 13 points, 7 rebounds, assists and only 5 shots.  Great efficiency.  Also, he has been consistently solid all the way around and hasn't been given the nod as SOTG yet.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Tums Festival on December 19, 2014, 09:48:05 PM
The Fischer King...
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Johnny B on December 19, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Fishaaa
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Sharpie on December 19, 2014, 09:48:17 PM
#12 SOTG.

Dude, relax.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 19, 2014, 09:48:36 PM
#12 SOTG.
Thought you were going to stop posting when JD left?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 19, 2014, 09:48:44 PM
I say give it to Juan. He filled up the stat sheet with 13 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, and a steal. Plus, does all those little things so well. Did all this with 1 turnover and 1 foul.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
No clear cut answer.   
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 19, 2014, 09:49:56 PM
Steve, Juan and Luke all played fabulous (also Carlino with 8 assists), but I say give it to Juan for the complete floor game, 13 points, 7 rebounds, assists and only 5 shots.  Great efficiency.  Also, he has been consistently solid all the way around and hasn't been given the nod as SOTG yet.
You must have forgotten how efficient Luke was.  he missed none from the floor and 2 of 8 from the line.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: chapman on December 19, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
Juan.  Team high in rebounds (again) and a bunch of assists (again).  Plus, in game where nobody really needs to be a stud for us to still win by 30, I'm pulling in past performance and saying our most consistent player this year deserves his first SoG win.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 19, 2014, 09:50:49 PM
I say give it to Juan. He filled up the stat sheet with 13 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, and a steal. Plus, does all those little things so well. Did all this with 1 turnover and 1 foul.

+1
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Nevada233 on December 19, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
Thought you were going to stop posting when JD left?

Dude, relax
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
I say give it to Juan. He filled up the stat sheet with 13 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, and a steal. Plus, does all those little things so well. Did all this with 1 turnover and 1 foul.

What about Steve then? 1 miss as well...3 more makes. 16 pts 6 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals. Did all this with 1 TO and 0 fouls.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2014, 09:52:32 PM
Sorry but if were not going to give Fisher the gimme SOTG it has to be Steve. The arguments for Juan work for Steve as well lol.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 19, 2014, 09:52:42 PM
#12 SOTG.

You've claimed to be "close" to the Marquette basketball team before. I hope you aren't close to them in an official capacity because continually tearing down one of our own players is embarrassing for yourself and the team.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 19, 2014, 09:54:17 PM
What about Steve then? 1 miss as well...3 more makes. 16 pts 6 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals. Did all this with 1 TO and 0 fouls.

1 less board an 2 less assists. Juan's defense was also a lot better. Steve had a game deserving of SOTG too, but I prefer Juan.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MakeItRain11 on December 19, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
Can we give SOTG to the two blondes in the Unofficial Luke Fischer fan club?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 19, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
1 less board an 2 less assists. Juan's defense was also a lot better. Steve had a game deserving of SOTG too, but I prefer Juan.

Yes but 3 more pts while showing us a jumper. More steals and less fouls that you pointed to lol.

Steve was the one we all wanted to see tonight get some time...and he earned it.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 19, 2014, 09:58:52 PM
Can we give SOTG to the two blondes in the Unofficial Luke Fischer fan club?

This +1000000
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2014, 09:59:04 PM
It is good to have options like this.   Any of them are worthy.   Lets not somehow turn a SOTG thread in a blowout with several good candidates into yet another yelling match.  
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Bricky on December 19, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Give it to the Finischer.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Sharpie on December 19, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
You've claimed to be "close" to the Marquette basketball team before. I hope you aren't close to them in an official capacity because continually tearing down one of our own players is embarrassing for yourself and the team.

Exactly. His chick must've kicked him to the curb or something to go out of your way after a 30+ pt win to tear down a kid that gives everything to his team. We all know derricks limitations. We don't need another Ners.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on December 19, 2014, 10:04:11 PM
Steve.  Luke's 4 fouls DQs him.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: keefe on December 19, 2014, 10:07:39 PM
Can we give SOTG to the two blondes in the Unofficial Luke Fischer fan club?

Here, here. They looked like twins. Damn. I read about them in Forum back in the McCormick days.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: forgetful on December 19, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
Here, here. They looked like twins. Damn. I read about them in Forum back in the McCormick days.

Careful now that was Luke's girlfriend and her sister, but they may be enough to push Luke over the edge for SOTG.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MakeItRain11 on December 19, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Careful now that was Luke's girlfriend and her sister.

Do you think they will help attendance going forward?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: keefe on December 19, 2014, 10:22:06 PM
Careful now that was Luke's girlfriend and her sister, but they may be enough to push Luke over the edge for SOTG.

Now I know why Luke was "homesick." I always felt "homesick" during deployments to the sandbox.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: brewcity77 on December 19, 2014, 10:30:46 PM
Juan. He was all over the floor. I love the way he pulls down rebounds with authority.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on December 19, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
Luke is the easy choice for me. Carlino also had a good game with 8 points and 8 assists.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: warriorstrack on December 19, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Fischer, but Carlino good game!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MU82 on December 19, 2014, 10:54:41 PM
Could obviously go to Luke or Juan, but I liked Taylor tonight.

Very active, two extremely nice entry passes to Luke, hit a 3, made a little jumper from the FT line, 6 boards, couple of steals, missed only one shot.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Newsdreams on December 19, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Juan
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 19, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
Fischer
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on December 19, 2014, 11:14:06 PM
You've claimed to be "close" to the Marquette basketball team before. I hope you aren't close to them in an official capacity because continually tearing down one of our own players is embarrassing for yourself and the team.

I don't think he was tearing him down. Maybe he liked Derrick's leadership out there tonite and that's why he gave him SOTG  ;D
Title: Fischer for National Player of the Week
Post by: bamamarquettefan on December 19, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
I always love Juan, but with the Fox Sports 1 guys throwing Luke out there as the National Player of the Week I need to go with him this game to keep the momentum going. Obviously I am very disappointed in Steve only going 7 for 8 from the floor to make our centers a combined less-than-perfect 15 of 16.

The team hit 69.4% of their two-point shots. Nice.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: WarriorHal on December 19, 2014, 11:36:50 PM
Another vote for the Big Fish!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: brandx on December 19, 2014, 11:40:45 PM
I say give it to Juan. He filled up the stat sheet with 13 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, and a steal. Plus, does all those little things so well. Did all this with 1 turnover and 1 foul.

Agreed.

Juan!
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: mattyv1908 on December 20, 2014, 01:32:15 AM
Had a Christmas party and I forgot to record the game prior leaving the house so by the time I remembered the second half was about to tip off.

In a second half in which it was a blow out and the game often times got out of control, I have to say I was most impressed with Carlino as he always seemed to settle the team down, made quality decisions tonight with his distribution, and was the senior leader this team needs.

It's hard to give it to Luke or Steve when our opponents couldn't even attempt to defend them.  Great games for both but again you have to consider the competition.  At 6'1" I could play the five against a ten and under team and dominate like those two did tonight.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: keefe on December 20, 2014, 03:38:38 AM
The beauty of this commentary is that it underscores this was a nice team effort. I hope we always struggle with reaching a consensus after many wins.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 20, 2014, 07:19:37 AM
KPom Oratings: Big Fisch=183, Juando=169, Steve=153, Matt=154. With Juan in the game MU outscored AAM 56-27. With Luke:47-34 with some rugged play by the guards. Steve: 65-37. Matt: 54-33.

I am still with Juan because of the point gap as the team was playing its best on both ends. Screams "Glue Guy of the Game". This game was never in doubt no matter the player, but the team played its best under Juan's play and leadership. 
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 20, 2014, 07:52:05 AM
#12 SOTG.

GET.OVER.IT
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: ronald dragon on December 20, 2014, 08:05:20 AM
I don't think he was tearing him down. Maybe he liked Derrick's leadership out there tonite and that's why he gave him SOTG  ;D
You're just as much of a loser with your posts about D. Wilson.  I love having him be a representative of Marquette, he's a way better one than you two.

Also I have to give it to Juan
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on December 20, 2014, 08:25:04 AM
You're just as much of a loser with your posts about D. Wilson.  I love having him be a representative of Marquette, he's a way better one than you two.

Also I have to give it to Juan

Well that was uncalled for.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: pbiflyer on December 20, 2014, 08:39:12 AM
Well that was uncalled for.

Why? Juan had a nice game! ;D
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Daniel on December 20, 2014, 08:41:33 AM
I vote Huan - complete game and significant leadership on the floor. He was calming guys down, going up to each with advice and encouragement - this is big. Juan !
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: bilsu on December 20, 2014, 08:43:13 AM
Taylor had a very good game, but it was mostly because Fischer was on the floor drawing defenses attention. Very good game plan by Wojo. I am voting for Juan.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: willie warrior on December 20, 2014, 08:49:14 AM
Do you think they will help attendance going forward?
3080 for an MU game, even against the JV is not a good trend.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 20, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
Juan more vote for SOTG.   I like the Glue Guy moniker and he had more more minutes to hold things together
Also liked how Carlino kept order in the house
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 20, 2014, 09:48:22 AM
Juan.  If Fischer would have dominated defensively like he did against ASU then him.  But Juan was all over the place both offensively and defensively in this one.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 20, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Come on! Let us know who the SOTG is?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: BlindboyPatSmith on December 20, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Taylor Jr
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 20, 2014, 11:03:02 AM
Come on! Let us know who the SOTG is?

This is an exceptionally tough one.  I've narrowed it down to Luke or Juan, but Steve and Matt aren't bad options either.  When the team as a whole shoots 61% from the floor, and 85% on FTs, it's going to be a tough choice.

OK, I'm going with Juan, because cumulatively he's been consistent, and valuable this year, but hasn't gotten any MUScoop SoTG love.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Warrior Code on December 20, 2014, 11:06:22 AM
Has Juan been SOTG before?
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: dinger on December 20, 2014, 11:07:08 AM
Good pick with Juan. I only saw the last 30 minutes and statistically he may not have had the best game, but I'm pretty sure he was the best player last night on both ends of the court.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 20, 2014, 11:08:53 AM
Has Juan been SOTG before?

Yup.  Once last year and once the year before.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Warrior Code on December 20, 2014, 11:10:13 AM
Yup.  Once last year and once the year before.

Thank you. I'm hoping he will receive the honor a few more times this year.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on December 20, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
No problem with the Juan selection.  I think all of our front court guys played well.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on December 20, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
This is an exceptionally tough one.  I've narrowed it down to Luke or Juan, but Steve and Matt aren't bad options either.  When the team as a whole shoots 61% from the floor, and 85% on FTs, it's going to be a tough choice.

OK, I'm going with Juan, because cumulatively he's been consistent, and valuable this year, but hasn't gotten any MUScoop SoTG love.

I think Luke deserved it more, but I can see how Juan could get it. My issue is that it's supposed to be "stud of the game," not based on cumalitive consistency on the season, or not receiving any love before. When you state this, it seems like you are making an excuse as to why you picked him over Luke.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: mattyv1908 on December 20, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
I think Luke deserved it more, but I can see how Juan could get it. My issue is that it's supposed to be "stud of the game," not based on cumalitive consistency on the season, or not receiving any love before. When you state this, it seems like you are making an excuse as to why you picked him over Luke.

While I think it's great Luke is shooting such a high percentage, most of his shots in this game had a VERY low degree of difficulty based on their vicinity to the basket and the poor defenders guarding him.  And most of those buckets came on great assists in which the pass had a higher degree of difficulty than the actual shot.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Shark on December 20, 2014, 12:45:49 PM
While I think it's great Luke is shooting such a high percentage, most of his shots in this game had a VERY low degree of difficulty based on their vicinity to the basket and the poor defenders guarding him.  And most of those buckets came on great assists in which the pass had a higher degree of difficulty than the actual shot.

No problem with the Jaun pick. My one observation is that I've never seen an MU player average over 20 in a 2 game stretch and shoot 90%! That's inaane. I know it's temporary but that is downright awesome. Even elite big guys rarely out up those numbers against cupcakes.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: jsglow on December 20, 2014, 12:50:47 PM
I think Luke deserved it more, but I can see how Juan could get it. My issue is that it's supposed to be "stud of the game," not based on cumalitive consistency on the season, or not receiving any love before. When you state this, it seems like you are making an excuse as to why you picked him over Luke.

Bottom line.  Luke committed 4 fouls against a cupcake opponent in 22 minutes.  He's a very good player and makes MU much better.  But Wojo will certainly be coaching him up today.  That simply cannot happen.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 20, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Fischer goes 8-8, 22 points and grabs 6 rebounds and was clearly the best player in the floor. He could possible be national player of the week, but just can't quite overcome Juan Anderson.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 20, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
Fischer goes 8-8, 22 points and grabs 6 rebounds and was clearly the best player in the floor. He could possible be national player of the week, but just can't quite overcome Juan Anderson.

And Juan couldn't overcome Steve. Consider the system flawed.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: chapman on December 20, 2014, 01:21:09 PM
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Deal+with+it_12e775_4191317.gif)
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 20, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
And Juan couldn't overcome Steve. Consider the system flawed.

+1
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: keefe on December 20, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
#12 SOTG.

Best wishes to JD. I am sure he will excel in many ways.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: DiehardMU on December 20, 2014, 03:05:22 PM
Personally would have gone with Luke, but Juan was awesome in the first half and his stats could have been better if he played in garbage time.  Seemed like he was the one player who did sit in the last 5-10 minutes (along with Cohen who fouled out).

Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: GGGG on December 20, 2014, 03:29:47 PM
I think Luke deserved it more, but I can see how Juan could get it. My issue is that it's supposed to be "stud of the game," not based on cumalitive consistency on the season, or not receiving any love before. When you state this, it seems like you are making an excuse as to why you picked him over Luke.


Since the mods came up with the award, and ultimately determine who receives it, I think they have a pretty good handle on what "it's supposed to be."

Let's not overthink our relatively meaningless award.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: Johnny B on December 20, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
C,mon now. Juan played fine but look was near perfect. This feels like a 2cd grade T-ball team where the coaches try to be nice and give the gameball to every kid at least once. Give to the player who had the biggest impact(clearly luke) not the guy who if he didnt make FT's would have more than 10. We should almost have vote each game to determine the STOG. Pretty sure luke would win.
Title: Re: SOTG
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 20, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
C,mon now. Juan played fine but look was near perfect. This feels like a 2cd grade T-ball team where the coaches try to be nice and give the gameball to every kid at least once. Give to the player who had the biggest impact(clearly luke) not the guy who if he didnt make FT's would have more than 10. We should almost have vote each game to determine the STOG. Pretty sure luke would win.

Honestly think Juan impacted the game more. He held their best player to 3-10 shooting. And one of those 3 FGs was a breakaway dunk that Juan wasn't on the court for. Combine that with the rebounds, points, and assists? Was a studly performance.

But so was Luke's. And Steve's. And Carlino's. This is a good problem to have. Should be all smiles in Warrior nation.