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Title: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: KipsBayEagle on December 19, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
According to a segment on Special Report with Bret Baier.  The editor of The Weekly Standard called Marquette University the loser of the week for suspending a professor critical of a teaching assistant's decision to not allow discussion of gay marriage in her philosophy class because it may be perceived as homophobic.  This has been discussed ad nauseum but it is interesting to see that this story is now getting national attention.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: JoeSmith1721 on December 19, 2014, 06:20:11 PM
Coming from Fox News, I'll take that as a good thing.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Ari Gold on December 19, 2014, 08:38:01 PM
Coming from Fox News, I'll take that as a good thing.

Oh boy how long did it take you to think up something so clever? I bet you say back in your chair and though "good job, bro. I'm so good at this". ... Fuçkwit
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 19, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
Coming from Fox News, I'll take that as a good thing.

dude-like them or not(in your case, not) they are the highest rated cable news station for like-ever.  so lots of people saw this-comprende?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Hards Alumni on December 19, 2014, 09:39:29 PM
dude-like them or not(in your case, not) they are the highest rated cable news station for like-ever.  so lots of people saw this-comprende?

So a couple of hayseeds might now have heard of Marquette.

Don't worry, they'll have forgotten about it by the time Honey - boo-boo is over.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: muhoosier260 on December 19, 2014, 09:43:02 PM
Admissions taking a big hit.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: JoeSmith1721 on December 19, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
Oh boy how long did it take you to think up something so clever? I bet you say back in your chair and though "good job, bro. I'm so good at this". ... Fuçkwit

I'm glad to see you have a basic comprehension of the English language.. or is that the Zima talking?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: GGGG on December 20, 2014, 06:10:07 AM
According to a segment on Special Report with Bret Baier.  The editor of The Weekly Standard called Marquette University the loser of the week for suspending a professor critical of a teaching assistant's decision to not allow discussion of gay marriage in her philosophy class because it may be perceived as homophobic.  This has been discussed ad nauseum but it is interesting to see that this story is now getting national attention.


This is the first time I have ever heard that the Weekly Standard hands out a "loser of a week."  So I don't think this is something that is all that serious.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 20, 2014, 07:05:50 AM
The weekly standard editor that said that was Steve Hayes.  He grew up in Wauwatosa and went to Depauw in Indiana (and the Columbia journalism school).

I wonder if he has family/friends that went to MU that turned him on to the story.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: ATWizJr on December 20, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
The weekly standard editor that said that was Steve Hayes.  He grew up in Wauwatosa and went to Depauw in Indiana (and the Columbia journalism school).

I wonder if he has family/friends that went to MU that turned him on to the story.
Probably read it on Scoop. Now it's a national story.  Scoop has long arms.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: ATWizJr on December 20, 2014, 08:11:17 AM
So a couple of hayseeds might now have heard of Marquette.

Don't worry, they'll have forgotten about it by the time Honey - boo-boo is over.
Hayseeds?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 20, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Hayseeds?

weak attempt to downplay the bad pr marquette is getting from this story.  so if you watch fox news, you must be an out of touch, live out in the boon docks simpleton, listening to dueling banjos ringing in your ears...i guess.  air balllll
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 08:58:48 AM
Admissions taking a big hit.

This won't help recruiting.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
weak attempt to downplay the bad pr marquette is getting from this story.  so if you watch fox news, you must be an out of touch, live out in the boon docks simpleton, listening to dueling banjos ringing in your ears...i guess.  air balllll
Well ....

" If Fox News viewers want to be informed about current events, they might as well turn off the TV.
A poll released by Fairleigh Dickinson University on Monday found that people who get their news from Fox News know significantly less about news both in the U.S. and the world than people who watch no news at all."


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/fox-news-viewers-informed-current-events-don-watch-news-study-finds-article-1.981257
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2014, 09:17:18 AM
Well ....

" If Fox News viewers want to be informed about current events, they might as well turn off the TV.
A poll released by Fairleigh Dickinson University on Monday found that people who get their news from Fox News know significantly less about news both in the U.S. and the world than people who watch no news at all."


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/fox-news-viewers-informed-current-events-don-watch-news-study-finds-article-1.981257

lol.. old nonsense from FDU. "Story" on this survey in NJ gets repeated every few months... sad.

This entire story is stupid (the suspension part.. the real story - the nutso teacher, is valid. Terminate her!). FREE McAdams...

But as he points out, "The 'suspension' is a bit of a joke, since it's Christmas break and we aren't teaching."

 
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 09:27:07 AM
lol.. old nonsense from FDU. "Story" on this survey in NJ gets repeated every few months... sad.

This entire story is stupid (the suspension part.. the real story - the nutso teacher, is valid. Terminate her!). FREE McAdams...

But as he points out, "The 'suspension' is a bit of a joke, since it's Christmas break and we aren't teaching."

 

I'll note you didn't actually refute the study's findings.
Anyhow, they followed up the NJ survey with a nationwide survey. The findings were the same.
Probably just some liberal conspiracy, though.

Researchers asked 1,185 random nationwide respondents what news sources they had consumed in the past week and then asked them questions about events in the U.S. and abroad. On average, people correctly answered 1.6 of five questions about domestic affairs.

Because the aim of the study was to isolate the effects of each type of news source, they then controlled for variables such as other news sources, partisanship, education, and other demographic factors.

They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/01/30/does_watching_fox_news_make_you_less_informed.html
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 20, 2014, 09:39:39 AM
I find that preposterous since I watch network and Fox News. How could someone who has no exposure to news know more than someone who has the interest to be exposed?
I mainly watch fox to get news on things the others don't cover or merely in passing I.e. Anything that reflects negatively on the administration.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
I find that preposterous since I watch network and Fox News. How could someone who has no exposure to news know more than someone who has the interest to be exposed?
I mainly watch fox to get news on things the others don't cover or merely in passing I.e. Anything that reflects negatively on the administration.

There are plenty of ways to get exposure to news without a television, i.e. newspaper, magazine, interweb.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 20, 2014, 09:44:32 AM
I'll note you didn't actually refute the study's findings.
Anyhow, they followed up the NJ survey with a nationwide survey. The findings were the same.
Probably just some liberal conspiracy, though.

Researchers asked 1,185 random nationwide respondents what news sources they had consumed in the past week and then asked them questions about events in the U.S. and abroad. On average, people correctly answered 1.6 of five questions about domestic affairs.

Because the aim of the study was to isolate the effects of each type of news source, they then controlled for variables such as other news sources, partisanship, education, and other demographic factors.

They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/01/30/does_watching_fox_news_make_you_less_informed.html

Of course they don't tell you what the questions were. My complaint with our fifth estate is not what they report but rather what they don't report and consider not news. If it were not for Fox would be discussing the McAdams and Abate story at all?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: jficke13 on December 20, 2014, 09:45:38 AM
Is it just me or does a research project to determine if Fox News viewers are less informed than those who consume no news at all sound like it may have a confirmation bias issue?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Sheriff on December 20, 2014, 09:49:29 AM
There are plenty of ways to get exposure to news without a television, i.e. newspaper, magazine, interweb.

I find Scoop to be particularly informative and intellectually stimulating.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
Is it just me or does a research project to determine if Fox News viewers are less informed than those who consume no news at all sound like it may have a confirmation bias issue?

It's just you.
The study wasn't directed at just Fox News, and it found similar ignorance among MSNBC viewers. Just not as ignorant.
Why not take a few minutes to read it before offering a critique?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 20, 2014, 10:19:23 AM
Is it just me or does a research project to determine if Fox News viewers are less informed than those who consume no news at all sound like it may have a confirmation bias issue?

I'd have to agree. To answer the question "correctly" those who consume no news at all must have found that information from somewhere; they just didn't get it out of thin air.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: JuniorCardigan on December 20, 2014, 10:28:28 AM
According to a segment on Special Report with Bret Baier.  The editor of The Weekly Standard called Marquette University the loser of the week for suspending a professor critical of a teaching assistant's decision to not allow discussion of gay marriage in her philosophy class because it may be perceived as homophobic.  This has been discussed ad nauseum but it is interesting to see that this story is now getting national attention.

They must have left out the all important fact that McAdams is, in fact, a d-bag
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 10:30:34 AM
I'd have to agree. To answer the question "correctly" those who consume no news at all must have found that information from somewhere; they just didn't get it out of thin air.

Shockingly enough, there are more sources for news than just your television.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Jay Bee on December 20, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
Fox News rules! #CashinIn time wit my girl Michelle!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxooxoxoxox
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
Of course they don't tell you what the questions were. My complaint with our fifth estate is not what they report but rather what they don't report and consider not news. If it were not for Fox would be discussing the McAdams and Abate story at all?

Ummm, yeah, they tell you exactly what the questions were.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/

Is it ironic that the Fox News defenders here are the same people who haven't bothered to even look at the study before criticizing it?
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 20, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
According to a segment on Special Report with Bret Baier.  The editor of The Weekly Standard called Marquette University the loser of the week for suspending a professor critical of a teaching assistant's decision to not allow discussion of gay marriage in her philosophy class because it may be perceived as homophobic.  This has been discussed ad nauseum but it is interesting to see that this story is now getting national attention.

I like the Steven Colbert line - "Coming up tonight, find out which brand of peanut butter that Brett Baier eats to give him that permanent scowel."
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 20, 2014, 11:26:08 AM
so let me get this straight, they poll 612 new jersey people and that qualifies as a cross section or sufficient amount of data to draw the conclusion they are looking for?  i'm surprised they even published that as a story rather than under comedy.  if you look at a map of red states/blue states, you'll see why this "study"  doesn't pass my smell test
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 20, 2014, 11:38:35 AM
not to mention that all 600 some respondents were from joysee?  no wonder they knew little to nothing about current events  except maybe how many guys slept with snooki over the past week or so
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: Pakuni on December 20, 2014, 12:30:20 PM
so let me get this straight, they poll 612 new jersey people and that qualifies as a cross section or sufficient amount of data to draw the conclusion they are looking for?  i'm surprised they even published that as a story rather than under comedy.  if you look at a map of red states/blue states, you'll see why this "study"  doesn't pass my smell test

Another person who didn't bother to read the second study.
Title: Re: Marquette University named Loser of the Week
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on December 20, 2014, 12:49:56 PM
Superbar rule: no politics.
I can see why.  This is nauseating on both sides.