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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BM1090 on November 26, 2014, 05:09:09 PM
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http://www.americasline.com/Stats/Odds/Basketball/NCAAB
I'll just leave this here.
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Wow. If I was in Vegas I think I would put some serious $$$ on Tech.
Shame on me for that thought!
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Don't know anything about GT, but I am surprised to see us favored given how we've been playing. Hope the folks in Vegas are right.
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Still riding on reputation, it would appear
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Take Georgia Tech and the points. Just sayin'
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Take Georgia Tech and the points. Just sayin'
Yup!! Win-Win situation! Make money and lose a game we all expect to lose. Lose a little money and make the winners bracket!!
Lucky for us, whenever I do this I usually lose money. Financial stability is never in my cards.
I'll see if my betting trends works again!!
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Wow. If I was in Vegas I think I would put some serious $$$ on Tech.
Shame on me for that thought!
No..... you should be praised for putting brains before emotion unlike many in this forum.
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No..... you should be praised for putting brains before emotion unlike many in this forum.
I don't think anyone, even the most optimistic of us, would be putting money on Marquette tomorrow.
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Still riding on reputation, it would appear
Vegas doesn't care about reputation. It appears Vegas thinks very little of GT.
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If MU plays defense they will win. They showed it can be done at the end of the NJIT game. Let's see how they start out against GT. That will be the best indicator if this team can be taken seriously. Let's not give up hope just yet.
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They have, like 17 guys on their roster. Maybe they'll borrow a couple to us.
But Lammers is the only guys I'm interested to see for them.
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I like MU in this one
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They have, like 17 guys on their roster. Maybe they'll borrow a couple to us.
But Lammers is the only guys I'm interested to see for them.
You mean "lend". I can borrow something from you, but you can't "borrow" anything TO me. Usually this covered around 6th to 7th grade English class and reinforced throughout grade school.
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You mean "lend". I can borrow something from you, but you can't "borrow" anything TO me. Usually this covered around 6th to 7th grade English class and reinforced throughout grade school.
Oh awesome, a grammar coach on a chat board. Take the white wig off, grab a beer, and lighten up.
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You mean "lend". I can borrow something from you, but you can't "borrow" anything TO me. Usually this covered around 6th to 7th grade English class and reinforced throughout grade school.
Thanks, Teach
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You mean "lend". I can borrow something from you, but you can't "borrow" anything TO me. Usually this covered around 6th to 7th grade English class and reinforced throughout grade school.
So it's covered in 7th grade, but refinforced (sic) throughout grade school? The timing seems strange.
There are several other errors you made. Leave the English lessons to the MASTERS!!!!!!!
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College basketball is one of those Vegas bets where a lack of overall info can benefit the very informed bettor. Recall that the bookmakers ONLY objective is to get equal dollars on each side such that the house is simply getting the rake. I was in Sin City over the weekend and on Monday (and hence not at either game in person). The line against NJIT was -20 as I recall. I thought it absolutely crazy but almost as a matter of policy I don't bet against MY teams. So rather than winning a $25 bet, I simply watched the game. I do recall what I believe was Jimmy Butler's senior year when we consistently out performed the line. I won several modest bets that winter.
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This is incorrect, Georgia Tech is favored. The spread opened at 2 points and now it's up to 4.
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This is incorrect, Georgia Tech is favored. The spread opened at 2 points and now it's up to 4.
MUEagle1090 originated this post. The question that should be asked is if he stupid for not being able read a spread correctly or he should be praised for not being familiar with betting lines like the rest of us degenerates.
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Actually, it goes to show how little everyone thinks of G-Tech
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This is incorrect, Georgia Tech is favored. The spread opened at 2 points and now it's up to 4.
That is what I'm seeing.
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I'll take Georgia tech by 11. MU is going to get pounded on the boards in this one.
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I'll take Georgia tech by 11. MU is going to get pounded on the boards in this one.
A reasonable assessment but there is hope.
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Vegas.com now has Georgia Tech at -4½.
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I like MU in this one
I'm with Jay Bee on this. Favorable match up
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For some reason MU opened as the favorite but now GT is favored (photo). I still like GT but never bet my alma mater's games.
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I am confident that the Prince of Poland has seen the light. He is quickly making the correct deductions on rotations and players skills. While we may not pull this one out, the Prince is now trending in the right direction. By mid season, we will be rolling.
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Up to 5 now where I'm hanging out. Thinking today about taking MU and Butler on the moneyline, win one, make a little, win two, make more, if you lose 2, you lose 2.
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If MU plays defense they will win. They showed it can be done at the end of the NJIT game. Let's see how they start out against GT. That will be the best indicator if this team can be taken seriously. Let's not give up hope just yet.
Georgia's three best scorers this year so far are 6-9, 6-8 and 6-8, doesn't sound like a good matchup for us, but you keep on living in a fantasy land.
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I love our Warriors, but I don't see how anybody could feel good about placing a bet on our lads given what we know about them.
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MUEagle1090 originated this post. The question that should be asked is if he stupid for not being able read a spread correctly or he should be praised for not being familiar with betting lines like the rest of us degenerates.
I am a regular bettor and I can damn well read a line. Marquette was/is favored by three on the website that I linked. Maybe other books have it differently.
2014 507 Marquette -3-110 129½o-105 0
9:00 PM 508 Georgia Tech 129o-110
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I am a regular bettor and I can damn well read a line. Marquette was/is favored by three on the website that I linked. Maybe other books have it differently.
2014 507 Marquette -3-110 129½o-105 0
9:00 PM 508 Georgia Tech 129o-110
Don't mind him, he can't help being from the jerk store.
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I've never seen a spread open that close swing entirely the opposite way. Someone must have been asleep at the wheel at LVH.
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I've never seen a spread open that close swing entirely the opposite way. Someone must have been asleep at the wheel at LVH.
I don't think it swung. I think it was just one book that had a completely different spread for some reason. The majority I saw opened up as GT -4, but the one I initially posted favored MU
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I am a regular bettor and I can damn well read a line. Marquette was/is favored by three on the website that I linked. Maybe other books have it differently.
2014 507 Marquette -3-110 129½o-105 0
9:00 PM 508 Georgia Tech 129o-110
Help me out. What am I looking at here? Not much of a gambler.
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Help me out. What am I looking at here? Not much of a gambler.
In this particular line, the -3 next to MU means MU is giving 3 points, or favored by three. 129.5 is the over/under total points for the game. The -105 next to Marquette means if you bet on Marquette, you would need to wager 105 dollars to win 100. The 110 next to Georgia Tech means if you bet on Ga. Tech, you would have to wager 110 dollars to win 100. You need to wager more money to win $100 if betting on GA Tech, which means more people are betting on GA Tech than MU.
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In this particular line, the -3 next to MU means MU is giving 3 points, or favored by three. 129.5 is the over/under total points for the game. The -105 next to Marquette means if you bet on Marquette, you would need to wager 105 dollars to win 100. The 110 next to Georgia Tech means if you bet on Ga. Tech, you would have to wager 110 dollars to win 100. You need to wager more money to win $100 if betting on GA Tech, which means more people are betting on GA Tech than MU.
clarification: the -105 was on the over at 129.5. The juice on the example that was posted of Marquette -3 was -110 (and -110 if you took G.T. +3). You cannot distinguish that more people bet on GT than Marquette from the juice in this example. If the line truly moved from Marquette -3 to GT -3.5 then you could presume that the vast majority of bettors bet on GT and the book needed to get more action on Marquette or an injury/ suspension to key player or players was announced after the line was posted that caused the line to dramatically change. A line moving 6.5 points is a significant line change for a college bball game and if that was the case one could project that almost all of the action was on GT. FWIW my site always had GT favored.
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For some reason MU opened as the favorite but now GT is favored (photo). I still like GT but never bet my alma mater's games.
The screen shot I posted earlier did indicate the MU opened the favorite. This is from the Vegas Insider web site (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/) which tracks some major sports books. Looking at the picture MU opened -3 and the consensus line at the time I captured the screen shot indicated GT was now favored by 4.5. Later the line dropped to GT- 3.5 I cropped for simplicity and don't show the column headers. I also don't show more casino lines that are tracked to the right of the consensus line.
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The screen shot I posted earlier did indicate the MU opened the favorite. This is from the Vegas Insider web site (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/) which tracks some major sports books. Looking at the picture MU opened -3 and the consensus line at the time I captured the screen shot indicated GT was now favored by 4.5. Later the line dropped to GT- 3.5 I cropped for simplicity and don't show the column headers. I also don't show more casino lines that are tracked to the right of the consensus line.
Am I right that very rarely is there any more than a tick or two of variance between the lines for a game amongst different books once you factor in the delta of the lay (if any).
Also, I met someone in Reno earlier this year who mentioned that oddsmakers for most NV and offshore books - even though they won't admit it - do communicate prior to posting lines. Any truth to this?
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clarification: the -105 was on the over at 129.5. The juice on the example that was posted of Marquette -3 was -110 (and -110 if you took G.T. +3). You cannot distinguish that more people bet on GT than Marquette from the juice in this example. If the line truly moved from Marquette -3 to GT -3.5 then you could presume that the vast majority of bettors bet on GT and the book needed to get more action on Marquette or an injury/ suspension to key player or players was announced after the line was posted that caused the line to dramatically change. A line moving 6.5 points is a significant line change for a college bball game and if that was the case one could project that almost all of the action was on GT. FWIW my site always had GT favored.
My mistake. That's what I get for trying to read the indented version instead of clicking the link
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Am I right that very rarely is there any more than a tick or two of variance between the lines for a game amongst different books once you factor in the delta of the lay (if any).
Also, I met someone in Reno earlier this year who mentioned that oddsmakers for most NV and offshore books - even though they won't admit it - do communicate prior to posting lines. Any truth to this?
No idea if they communicate beforehand but in my experience, if multiple odds makers release lines at the same time they never differ by more than a point or so. Usually very consistent.
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Generally, the lines between the Vegas books don't vary more than 0.5-1.0 points. College lines move a lot more than the pros do. The 7.5 points the MU-GT line moved is very high (MU-3.0 to GT -4.5 before coming down to -3.0 or 3.5).
Most of the books (at least in Nevada) network and some will allow the first bets for some games to be made by professional bettors (with $ limits) so they can gauge which way to move the line. The worst fear of sports books is getting "sided" - meaning bettors are only betting one team involved in a certain game.
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Interesting, thank you. You can all look forward to the Warrior Code dorm that will be built with money won on sports betting, now that I'm an expert.