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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 24, 2014, 10:30:59 PM

Title: To the fans that stayed
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 24, 2014, 10:30:59 PM
Thank you for supporting the team. I had to tell some kids off earlier in but the crowd that did stay was pretty loud all things considered
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Shark on November 24, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
Every win this season is going to be a good win.

Baby steps.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TheBurrEffect on November 24, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Why are you telling off kids in a crowd at a disappointing game for leaving early on a Monday night during a snowstorm with finals around the corner? Super confused.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: warriorchick on November 24, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Why are you telling off kids in a crowd at a disappointing game for leaving early on a Monday night during a snowstorm with finals around the corner? Super confused.

Finals are  two weeks away.  Anyone who uses that excuse to leave the game 20 minutes early is full of crap.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TheBurrEffect on November 24, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
Finals are  two weeks away.  Anyone who uses that excuse to leave the game 20 minutes early is full of crap.

Two weeks away with an exam this week in just about every class. Staying at a basketball game with a tiny crowd is a load of crap to many a college student. Get your priorities straight =/
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: warriorchick on November 24, 2014, 10:47:26 PM
Two weeks away with an exam this week in just about every class. Staying at a basketball game with a tiny crowd is a load of crap to many a college student. Get your priorities straight =/

Well, now you are changing the story.

And why are you spending time posting on Scoop when you obviously have studying to do?
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Groin_pull on November 24, 2014, 10:47:50 PM
Two weeks away with an exam this week in just about every class. Staying at a basketball game with a tiny crowd is a load of crap to many a college student. Get your priorities straight =/

Seriously. Last I checked, students were in school to learn, not attend basketball games.

Get it together.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TheBurrEffect on November 24, 2014, 10:50:03 PM
Well, now you are changing the story.

And why are you spending time posting on Scoop when you obviously have studying to do?
Whoever said I was struggling in my classes? I just asked why someone was harassing college students for not staying for an entire basketball game.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 24, 2014, 11:00:10 PM
To clarify that's not why I was bitching at them. It was because they were cheering against MU players the entire night.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: MU82 on November 24, 2014, 11:05:28 PM
Seriously. Last I checked, students were in school to learn, not attend basketball games.

Get it together.

So if you have studying to do, you go to the basketball game but leave 15 minutes early. Yep, lots of studying gets done in that 15 minutes. Please. The typical student probably needs the short break from studying more than he/she needs the studying.

Either stay home and study or be an effen Warrior.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: BM1090 on November 24, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Props to the students who were there at the end. Was pretty loud on defensive possessions given the crowd size.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Oldgym on November 24, 2014, 11:18:54 PM
Props to the students who were there at the end. Was pretty loud on defensive possessions given the crowd size.

Second that.  Impressive noise.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 25, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
The students were again outstanding. Nice job.  The Vestables, OTOH... That said, Freeway was in the Leine's Lounge watching MNF.  Gave him ZFB's mobile #.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Ellisium on November 25, 2014, 12:42:29 AM
Does anyone know what the actual attendance was at the game? 
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: NCMUFan on November 25, 2014, 01:06:13 AM
1st congradulations to Marquette for winning.  Last thing we need is to discourage the team.  I do not know the circumstances of the small crowd, but I have to say the place looked empty on TV.  Hopefully just a combination of bad weather, thanksgiving, school study priorities, disinterest in opponent.   
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 25, 2014, 01:13:25 AM
All I'll say is that the student section was more full than the rest of the stadium...
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on November 25, 2014, 07:23:40 AM
I agree that the fans should stay. No question. But telling off strangers at a sporting event, while funny for everyone else, is a little embarrassing.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 25, 2014, 07:51:54 AM
So if you have studying to do, you go to the basketball game but leave 15 minutes early. Yep, lots of studying gets done in that 15 minutes. Please. The typical student probably needs the short break from studying more than he/she needs the studying.

Either stay home and study or be an effen Warrior.
+1

Don't use the "I've got finals coming up so I had to leave 15-20 minutes early" excuse as to why you left.  Man up and stay the whole game or don't go. 
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Sharpie on November 25, 2014, 07:57:09 AM
+1

Don't use the "I've got finals coming up so I had to leave 15-20 minutes early" excuse as to why you left.  Man up and stay the whole game or don't go. 

Agreed. When I was at marquette you planned hw and studying around games or other social events. It's not that difficult.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: MU82 on November 25, 2014, 08:02:52 AM
Before one of my intramural games at Helfaer 840 years ago, our PG said he couldn't play because he had to study for a test that wasn't going to be given for 2+ weeks. So I had to play PG -- and I most assuredly was not a PG. The results were not pretty.

A few days later, he was able to delay his studying for a couple hours to go to the effen movies.

Obviously, I've been scarred for life by this betrayal.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 25, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
I agree with others that leaving 15 minutes early to study for finals in two weeks is a cop out.

However, the student section did a lot better than the sweater vests did. So let's aim some of this at the alums rather than the students
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: mu03eng on November 25, 2014, 08:55:12 AM
Agreed. When I was at marquette you planned hw and studying around games or other social events. It's not that difficult.

I'd actually argue that's part of the point of college...figuring out how to prioritize and manage your life.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: reinko on November 25, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
Before one of my intramural games at Helfaer 840 years ago, our PG said he couldn't play because he had to study for a test that wasn't going to be given for 2+ weeks. So I had to play PG -- and I most assuredly was not a PG. The results were not pretty.

A few days later, he was able to delay his studying for a couple hours to go to the effen movies.

Obviously, I've been scarred for life by this betrayal.

Is this why you and Ners butt heads?  Because he had a Organic chem final back in 1980, and you never forgave him for it?
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: mu03eng on November 25, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
I agree with others that leaving 15 minutes early to study for finals in two weeks is a cop out.

However, the student section did a lot better than the sweater vests did. So let's aim some of this at the alums rather than the students

I agree with this.  It's been a long time concern of mine, while I think the students in general are entitled....the alumni seem even more entitled.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Sharpie on November 25, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
I'd actually argue that's part of the point of college...figuring out how to prioritize and manage your life.

That's a good point. I guess some are ahead of the curve during college. Never found it too difficult to get studying/hw done prior to enjoying a few beverages before the game and then attending the games freshman-senior years. Although I will admit that I may have been one to occasionally get sidetracked at the bar and end up getting to the BC after the ball went into the air. Managing priorities is definitely learned during college though.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: warriorchick on November 25, 2014, 09:21:24 AM
I don't even have a beef with students who skipped the game altogether to study.

But using studying as an excuse to leave 15 minutes early after you have already committed 2+ hours to coming to and watching the game is bull.  Just admit that it was getting too painful to watch.  I will admit that I was tempted to turn off the TV for that reason.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Marquette_g on November 25, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
It strikes me as odd that someone needed to start a thread basically to let others know he was jackass at the game last night.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: jsglow on November 25, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
While not referring to last night's game,  there does seem to be a tendency for some students to arrive late/leave early.  But so far this season they've way outperformed us old guys. Keep up the good work!  This team needs your support.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 25, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
It strikes me as odd that someone needed to start a thread basically to let others know he was jackass at the game last night.

Context is important...The kids behind me were ripping steve yelling things like, "you scored for them why can't you score for us" as well as "you might as just well put on a red jerset for today's game" I was more then a little frustrated at hearing that for 5 straight minutes so I lashed out. If that makes me a jack ass so be it, I'll take that title. But they sure as hell didn't say anything like that for the rset of the game.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: WarhawkWarrior on November 25, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
I was there the entire game.  I was really impressed with the student section.  They were for the most part there until the end.  They were truely into the game and really let the refs have it a few times.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: BM1090 on November 25, 2014, 11:54:27 AM
Context is important...The kids behind me were ripping steve yelling things like, "you scored for them why can't you score for us" as well as "you might as just well put on a red jerset for today's game" I was more then a little frustrated at hearing that for 5 straight minutes so I lashed out. If that makes me a jack ass so be it, I'll take that title. But they sure as hell didn't say anything like that for the rset of the game.

I'm have season tickets in the uppers and deal with this a lot in my section. The guys directly behind me just deride Derrick and Juan for the entire game. Saturday was particularly awful, and it took all my restraint not to turn around and scream at them.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: tower912 on November 25, 2014, 12:02:49 PM
Ners sits behind you?
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: MU82 on November 25, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Is this why you and Ners butt heads?  Because he had a Organic chem final back in 1980, and you never forgave him for it?

Ha!

I'm guessing Ners was one of the opponents I used to foul repeatedly. There was only one ref and I was a bit of a thug -- I'd clutch, I'd grab, I'd stay in the lane for 10 seconds, whatever it took until the ref called something.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 25, 2014, 01:15:54 PM
I'm have season tickets in the uppers and deal with this a lot in my section. The guys directly behind me just deride Derrick and Juan for the entire game. Saturday was particularly awful, and it took all my restraint not to turn around and scream at them.

Yea, I couldnt take it anymore. Its a little different I feel when its fellow students vs. a graduate of some sort. I could probably get away with it. My thought process was you wait outside for the game and have the nerve to rip on people you go to school with? I saw the people next to me who where there friends I believe trying to hold back laughter. I got my point across and thats all that matters. Its funny cause I am not an intimating looking person but they were VERY supportive the rest of the game.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: WarriorInNYC on November 25, 2014, 03:20:57 PM
Yea, I couldnt take it anymore. Its a little different I feel when its fellow students vs. a graduate of some sort. I could probably get away with it. My thought process was you wait outside for the game and have the nerve to rip on people you go to school with? I saw the people next to me who where there friends I believe trying to hold back laughter. I got my point across and thats all that matters. Its funny cause I am not an intimating looking person but they were VERY supportive the rest of the game.

I don't know if there is anything more frustrating than being passionate about your team and then being surrounded by negativity around it during a game.

I'm a big Steelers fan and there is a Steelers bar just 3 blocks from my apartment that I went to several times.  But unfortunately, its usually just around 20-25 of us and most are somewhat quiet except for this one guy who is just so loud and complains every play about coaching, or blocking, or our linebacker didnt sack the QB hard enough.  Its made me stop going.  I'd rather go much further to a different Steelers bar where I can barely move and cant get a seat and beers are $2 more just so I don't have to listen to that crap.

Kudos to you for getting them to stop.  The game was not very fun to watch, but there is no reason to be extremely negative to players on the court about it.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: Sharpie on November 25, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
I don't know if there is anything more frustrating than being passionate about your team and then being surrounded by negativity around it during a game.

I'm a big Steelers fan and there is a Steelers bar just 3 blocks from my apartment that I went to several times.  But unfortunately, its usually just around 20-25 of us and most are somewhat quiet except for this one guy who is just so loud and complains every play about coaching, or blocking, or our linebacker didnt sack the QB hard enough.  Its made me stop going.  I'd rather go much further to a different Steelers bar where I can barely move and cant get a seat and beers are $2 more just so I don't have to listen to that crap.

Kudos to you for getting them to stop.  The game was not very fun to watch, but there is no reason to be extremely negative to players on the court about it.

Steelers fan here too. Kudos to you. I hate those types of fans. Wish they would stop playing down to competition this year though.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 25, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
Just admit that it was getting too painful to watch.  I will admit that I was tempted to turn off the TV for that reason.
I get what you are saying, but at the end of the day...no matter the opponent...I thought that was an entertaining finish!
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: warriorchick on November 25, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
I get what you are saying, but at the end of the day...no matter the opponent...I thought that was an entertaining finish!

Definitely agree.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TheBurrEffect on November 25, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
1st congradulations to Marquette for winning.  Last thing we need is to discourage the team.  I do not know the circumstances of the small crowd, but I have to say the place looked empty on TV.  Hopefully just a combination of bad weather, thanksgiving, school study priorities, disinterest in opponent.   

School priorities and Thanksgiving rules it for the student section. There was also a decent storm all day long that made roads fairly bad. Alot of people didnt see the need to go to a cupcake game.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: TheBurrEffect on November 25, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
Yea, I couldnt take it anymore. Its a little different I feel when its fellow students vs. a graduate of some sort. I could probably get away with it. My thought process was you wait outside for the game and have the nerve to rip on people you go to school with? I saw the people next to me who where there friends I believe trying to hold back laughter. I got my point across and thats all that matters. Its funny cause I am not an intimating looking person but they were VERY supportive the rest of the game.

Just providing a different point to the thinking of a college student rooting for basketball.

It's become a fairly common thing at many division 1 schools to not see basketball & football players as fellow students. Many get (rightfully so) jealous over the priority treatment athletes receive over other students. This could be nicer dorms, insane locker rooms and club houses compared to the average student lobby, priority pick in classes, free tutoring/priority tutoring. All this while going to school for free while many other students are taking out loans that will last 10-15 years to go to the same school.

Now all of this coupled with the brewing fight between the NCAA and the players about payments and benefits. -To a normal non athlete student it's hard to see what all the complaining is about when they're getting 4 years of college for free that normally cost upwards of $20,000 dollars-  There has been a large uprising of hatred, not necessary at the players, but the institution as a whole against all of this. Which is why you can see some students berating players, not showing up, or not appearing enthused. You need to remember that now a days students are not watching these games to cheer on their fellow students but to blow off steam from classes and exams or get a nights worth of entertainment.

Now this isn't saying anything against the challenges that some student athletes have, nor is it saying that I agree with the above statements. But it is how many college students feel now a days with a weak economy and no guarantee of a job coming out of college with a crapton of debt.

You need to remember that it is no longer the 1990's and lower. The new generation of students have different priorities and a different mindset then 20 years ago. It is something that you do need to respect on the part of them.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: bilsu on November 25, 2014, 06:44:30 PM
I would of been there the entire game, but I left for Florida after Saturdays game. My decission to leave Saturday was based on road conditions. The roads were good and I am typing this in Florida. Given Monday's weather I made the right decision.
Title: Re: To the fans that stayed
Post by: reinko on November 25, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
Just providing a different point to the thinking of a college student rooting for basketball.

It's become a fairly common thing at many division 1 schools to not see basketball & football players as fellow students. Many get (rightfully so) jealous over the priority treatment athletes receive over other students. This could be nicer dorms, insane locker rooms and club houses compared to the average student lobby, priority pick in classes, free tutoring/priority tutoring. All this while going to school for free while many other students are taking out loans that will last 10-15 years to go to the same school.

Now all of this coupled with the brewing fight between the NCAA and the players about payments and benefits. -To a normal non athlete student it's hard to see what all the complaining is about when they're getting 4 years of college for free that normally cost upwards of $20,000 dollars-  There has been a large uprising of hatred, not necessary at the players, but the institution as a whole against all of this. Which is why you can see some students berating players, not showing up, or not appearing enthused. You need to remember that now a days students are not watching these games to cheer on their fellow students but to blow off steam from classes and exams or get a nights worth of entertainment.

Now this isn't saying anything against the challenges that some student athletes have, nor is it saying that I agree with the above statements. But it is how many college students feel now a days with a weak economy and no guarantee of a job coming out of college with a crapton of debt.

You need to remember that it is no longer the 1990's and lower. The new generation of students have different priorities and a different mindset then 20 years ago. It is something that you do need to respect on the part of them.

I know you said you do not necessarily agree with these sentiments,  but again,  These players do not get a college education for free.   They earned it,  with more sacrifice and hard work than many @ MU.

  In another universe I imagine a message board of only D 1 basketball players whining about their fellow students who get free rides because of Ignatius scholarships.