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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mu03eng on October 29, 2014, 08:08:50 AM
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While posting in another thread about ranking MU coaches, it got me to thinking about all the coaches MU has had. Almost to a man, they were quirky people. Buzz was obviously, Al was the master, Crean was creepy quirky....the list goes on. Deane and KO by all accounts were super quirky. I don't know about Hank and Rick was probably the least quirky of the bunch. But almost all of them were just weird people.
Wojo seems pretty middle of the road, and that isn't meant as a pejorative and neither is quirky, but is part of Marquette's "personality" a coach with a quirky, weird personality? Is this a subconscious reflection on the man who saw MU basketball to it's greatest heights? Is that part of the Marquette basketball brand?
Winning obviously trumps everything and we are still getting to know Wojo(talk about great first impressions!) but I wonder if the apparent lack of "personality" will help or hurt within the fanbase.
Or maybe this is all total crap and made up in my head....that's why we have message boards right?
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Floor slapping is kinda quirky.
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There is "quirky" (Al and Buzz), there is "intense" (O'Neil and Deane), and there is "odd." (Crean)
I'm sure Wojo will fit into one of these categories eventually. 99% of coaches do.
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maybe being normal is his "qurik"
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There is "quirky" (Al and Buzz), there is "intense" (O'Neil and Deane), and there is "odd." (Crean)
I'm sure Wojo will fit into one of these categories eventually. 99% 100% of coaches do.
FIFY. If you aren't quirky, intense or odd, you'll eventually find yourself out of a HC job.
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There will be plenty of time for his Quirks to come to the fore
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There is "quirky" (Al and Buzz), there is "intense" (O'Neil and Deane), and there is "odd creepy." (Crean)
fify.
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Winning obviously trumps everything and we are still getting to know Wojo(talk about great first impressions!) but I wonder if the apparent lack of "personality" will help or hurt within the fanbase.
Or maybe this is all total crap and made up in my head....that's why we have message boards right?
I've thought about this too. The one critique I have of Wojo so far is that we haven't seen him "off-script" quite yet. Says all the right things, but I'd like to see him a little more relaxed and show his personality a bit.
The fact that this is the one minor quibble I have with his first 6 months here shows you how outstanding it has been.
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While posting in another thread about ranking MU coaches, it got me to thinking about all the coaches MU has had. Almost to a man, they were quirky people. Buzz was obviously, Al was the master, Crean was creepy quirky....the list goes on. Deane and KO by all accounts were super quirky. I don't know about Hank and Rick was probably the least quirky of the bunch. But almost all of them were just weird people.
Wojo seems pretty middle of the road, and that isn't meant as a pejorative and neither is quirky, but is part of Marquette's "personality" a coach with a quirky, weird personality? Is this a subconscious reflection on the man who saw MU basketball to it's greatest heights? Is that part of the Marquette basketball brand?
Winning obviously trumps everything and we are still getting to know Wojo(talk about great first impressions!) but I wonder if the apparent lack of "personality" will help or hurt within the fanbase.
Or maybe this is all total crap and made up in my head....that's why we have message boards right?
Hank was easily the most middle of the road coach MU has had since Al. If Hank had a quirk it was that he was a genuinely nice guy, probably too nice to be a really effective head coach.
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fify.
"I've been thinking about you alot since last weekend. A whole lot."
-Thom Crean
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Wojo's "quirk" is his intensity. Not a bad thing.
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Al was slick, NYC fascinating quirky. Buzz was down home country quirky, Rick was working man/everyman quirky. KO and Deane were boozy quirky and TC was creepy quirky. I'm sure Hank had a few quirks but he was way more normal than the others. Bob Dukiet? Who cares?
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I've thought about this too. The one critique I have of Wojo so far is that we haven't seen him "off-script" quite yet. Says all the right things, but I'd like to see him a little more relaxed and show his personality a bit.
The fact that this is the one minor quibble I have with his first 6 months here shows you how outstanding it has been.
The off script thing is rattling around in my head as well. I bought into Crean's and Buzz's schtick/quirk and with Wojo I'm holding him at arms length even though on the surface everything he has done is A+. I don't know if it's a "I've been burned before, I don't believe it" thing or if I just like quirky coaches and straight arrows worry me.
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Does money make one quirky or does it just bring the quirkiness out?
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It seems to me that most people with an extraordinary talent of some kind fall outside the range of "normal" or "typical" in other aspects of their lives. For example, extremely creative types tend to be very sensitive people who are more likely than most to self-medicate to deal with the emotions that self-expression doesn't help with (think artists, writers, musicians). Politicians tend to have enormous egos. A great number of mathematical or scientific geniuses have issues such as OCD or ADHD, or other problems with socialization.
All of these things could be considered quirks, and some of it might be a chicken/egg thing (e.g., does one go into politics because one has an enormous ego, or does being a political bigwig give someone an enormous ego?)
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Does money make one quirky or does it just bring the quirkiness out?
Well... the difference between "crazy" and "eccentric" is said to be a few million dollars.
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We don't know what kink of quirk is going to manifest with Wojo yet. Don't worry, it will.
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It seems to me that most people with an extraordinary talent of some kind fall outside the range of "normal" or "typical" in other aspects of their lives. For example, extremely creative types tend to be very sensitive people who are more likely than most to self-medicate to deal with the emotions that self-expression doesn't help with (think artists, writers, musicians). Politicians tend to have enormous egos. A great number of mathematical or scientific geniuses have issues such as OCD or ADHD, or other problems with socialization.
All of these things could be considered quirks, and some of it might be a chicken/egg thing (e.g., does one go into politics because one has an enormous ego, or does being a political bigwig give someone an enormous ego?)
Thank you, Dr. Warriorchick.
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It seems to me that most people with an extraordinary talent of some kind fall outside the range of "normal" or "typical" in other aspects of their lives. For example, extremely creative types tend to be very sensitive people who are more likely than most to self-medicate to deal with the emotions that self-expression doesn't help with (think artists, writers, musicians). Politicians tend to have enormous egos. A great number of mathematical or scientific geniuses have issues such as OCD or ADHD, or other problems with socialization.
All of these things could be considered quirks, and some of it might be a chicken/egg thing (e.g., does one go into politics because one has an enormous ego, or does being a political bigwig give someone an enormous ego?)
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There is "quirky" (Al and Buzz), there is "intense" (O'Neil and Deane), and there is "odd." (Crean)
I'm sure Wojo will fit into one of these categories eventually. 99% of coaches do.
I think Buzz fits in all three categories.
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What kind of quirky was Dukiet????
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The off script thing is rattling around in my head as well. I bought into Crean's and Buzz's schtick/quirk and with Wojo I'm holding him at arms length even though on the surface everything he has done is A+. I don't know if it's a "I've been burned before, I don't believe it" thing or if I just like quirky coaches and straight arrows worry me.
How have you / we been burned? TC was here for 9 years, Buzz for 6. 2 coaches in 15 years. COACHES LEAVE, that's what they are going to do. Accept it. If we get 6-9 years of Wojo and he gets hired away, it means we most likely will have had 6-9 good years.
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What kind of quirky was Dukiet????
Cradle robber. He hit on one of my classmates. She was of age -and already graduated - but not HIS age.
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What kind of quirky was Dukiet????
Is mediocrity a quirk?
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Is mediocrity a quirk?
Definitely a better piano player than a coach.
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It seems to me that most people with an extraordinary talent of some kind fall outside the range of "normal" or "typical" in other aspects of their lives. For example, extremely creative types tend to be very sensitive people who are more likely than most to self-medicate to deal with the emotions that self-expression doesn't help with (think artists, writers, musicians). Politicians tend to have enormous egos. A great number of mathematical or scientific geniuses have issues such as OCD or ADHD, or other problems with socialization.
All of these things could be considered quirks, and some of it might be a chicken/egg thing (e.g., does one go into politics because one has an enormous ego, or does being a political bigwig give someone an enormous ego?)
And, if you are a self-medicating, ego-maniac with OCD or ADHD or other problems with socialization, what are you?
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And, if you are a self-medicating, ego-maniac with OCD or ADHD or other problems with socialization, what are you?
Rob Ford
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Does money make one quirky or does it just bring the quirkiness out?
“Of the billionaires I have known, money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they are simply jerks with a billion dollars.”
-warren buffett
wojo will be intense. i never liked him as a player...i thought he was much like his coach who i also don't like, and can't stand pg's that have no offensive skill. i don't like how coach k. put pressure on his players to hang around rather then entering the league, and while i don't think jalen rose summarized it best, i do think there was something to his comments on coach k.
that said, so far i've liked what i've heard/seen from wojo...time will tell. i don't think he's trying to be coach k...he seems to be his own person, but i'm also hoping/looking for that. we all heard the stories about how buzz started from nothing, and for wojo to get to where he got as a player with his height and athleticism you know he worked his tail off...as did diener. love seeing those two together, and i'm not sure you could find two more intense people in the game.
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Cradle robber. He hit on one of my classmates. She was of age -and already graduated - but not HIS age.
Hahahaha. It sounds like he was a real hound.
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Rob Ford
Touché.
Of 461,122 possible entries, that was the only correct answer. Bravo!
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Maybe Wojo will realize his own shortcomings in this department and will hire former MLB player Jamie Quirk as a special assistant!
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Not sure why "MU's Quirky Coaches" starts with Al. Wouldn't stories about his predecessor, Eddie Hickey, qualify him for inclusion, as well?
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Not sure why "MU's Quirky Coaches" starts with Al. Wouldn't stories about his predecessor, Eddie Hickey, qualify him for inclusion, as well?
I have NEVER heard an Eddie Hickey story, but have heard plenty of Al stories.
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Is mediocrity a quirk?
In hindsight, I would have been thrilled with mediocrity...