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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: DienerTime34 on October 21, 2014, 12:44:50 PM
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Just talked to someone who is around the team every day and asked about Wojo. The person said Wojo is as intens - if not moreso - than Buzz was behind closed doors.
Thought that was an interesting comment because in the public eye Wojo seems so soft spoken and thoughtful. Can't wait for the season to start ... I wonder which Wojo we'll get on the sidelines?? The "Marquette is the best of both worlds guy" or the "floor slaps" guy.
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I could see him being more intense I mean the guy not just has the competitive nature like buzz but also was an athlete so it's been driven into him as well.
I expect a very calm sideline presence except for the occasional game where he goes nuts
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He was more the " floor slaps" guy as an asst at Duke.
I would expect Wojo will conduct himself similar to Coach K.
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Listen... if I had to choose between intensity and whatever the opposite of intensity is in picking a D-I head coach, I'm picking intensity. Even K has had his moments of crazy on the court.
Do I expect Wojo will "walk it off" at some point? No.
Do I expect him to be screaming at his players and the refs? I sure as hell hope so.
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I assume every D1 coach is insanely competitive and intense, even if they are quiet about it.
You don't work those kinds of hours, spend that amount of time on the road, and work your way up the ranks being a laid back kind of guy.
You want to be laid back? Go sell insurance.
High level coaching is an intense gig. Don't ever be fooled by a coach's public "schtick", even if his schtick is to tell you that he doesn't have a schtick, ala Buzz Williams.
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Take a look at who he learned from. Coach K isn't exactly a can of peaches behind closed doors and he comes from the Bob Knight coaching tree.
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Listen... if I had to choose between intensity and whatever the opposite of intensity is in picking a D-I head coach, I'm picking intensity. Even K has had his moments of crazy on the court.
Do I expect Wojo will "walk it off" at some point? No.
Do I expect him to be screaming at his players and the refs? I sure as hell hope so.
"Give 'em hell AL!" meant something folks.
You don't think Al was intense?
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Intense is one thing, being crazy is another. There is nothing wrong with intense.
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I assume every D1 coach is insanely competitive and intense, even if they are quiet about it.
You don't work those kinds of hours, spend that amount of time on the road, and work your way up the ranks being a laid back kind of guy.
You want to be laid back? Go sell insurance.
High level coaching is an intense gig. Don't ever be fooled by a coach's public "schtick", even if his schtick is to tell you that he doesn't have a schtick, ala Buzz Williams.
No question, D-1 coaches are intense individuals. The question is, can you be intense on the court (practice, games, etc.), but normal away from it? Frankly, it seems that past MU coaches have struggled with the off the court part. But, it seems the profession in general has issues with that. Perhaps, Wojo can break that trend.
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Just talked to someone who is around the team every day and asked about Wojo. The person said Wojo is as intens - if not moreso - than Buzz was behind closed doors.
Thought that was an interesting comment because in the public eye Wojo seems so soft spoken and thoughtful. Can't wait for the season to start ... I wonder which Wojo we'll get on the sidelines?? The "Marquette is the best of both worlds guy" or the "floor slaps" guy.
Good - I would be worried if your friend reported that every day was about waiting for the ice cream man to show up during practice.
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I could see him being more intense I mean the guy not just has the competitive nature like buzz but also was an athlete so it's been driven into him as well.
I expect a very calm sideline presence except for the occasional game where he goes nuts
+5
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No question, D-1 coaches are intense individuals. The question is, can you be intense on the court (practice, games, etc.), but normal away from it? Frankly, it seems that past MU coaches have struggled with the off the court part. But, it seems the profession in general has issues with that. Perhaps, Wojo can break that trend.
Agreed... and to be honest, that's not limited to coaches, or even athletes.
People who aspire to, and achieve power positions, aren't always the best people or neighbors.
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Of course Wojo is intense, didn't some one post that he was yelling in the locker room after Madness?
And yes, any floor-slapper had to be intense.
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Nothing wrong with some intensity.
(http://www.vinylrecords.ch/T/TE/Ted_Nugent/Intensities/ted-nugent-intensities-1117.jpg)
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Nothing wrong with some intensity.
(http://www.vinylrecords.ch/T/TE/Ted_Nugent/Intensities/ted-nugent-intensities-1117.jpg)
looks like a Warrior to me
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looks like a Warrior to me
New Logo?
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looks like a Warrior to me
Funny, looks more like a worthless piece of sh*t to me.
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No question, D-1 coaches are intense individuals. The question is, can you be intense on the court (practice, games, etc.), but normal away from it? Frankly, it seems that past MU coaches have struggled with the off the court part. But, it seems the profession in general has issues with that. Perhaps, Wojo can break that trend.
This is where I get in trouble here and people get upset, but I don't know any other way to answer this then through personal experiences....so blast away.
I've worked with or for many coaches, and all of them are intense as hell. Personally, the only one that was "normal" outside of work and even at work that participated in a high profile sport is Mike Scioscia (named AL manager of the year today). Certainly there are many others that are not in high profile jobs that pulled it off because the stressors are different. Markus Roeders can be really intense, but he's a sweetheart off the pitch...as an example.
For college basketball coaches, whether it was K.O., Mike Deane, Mike Rice, Matt Doherty, Tom Crean, Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Joe Maddon, Craig Hartsburg, Terry Collins, Guy Charron, etc....all of them were intense on and off in my interactions with them. Don't take intense to mean prickly, some were and some weren't, but all of them were intense. I'm sure there will be some folks here that will question what that means for say a M. Deane. An inability to separate themselves from the reality in which they lived would be my definition. Consumed by it. When I see Roy Williams on tv I crack up, that "oh shucks diggity dog" routine is not how he is. I've stated this before, but in my view when your life is dependent upon 17 to 22 year old young men and their actions on and off the court, it makes you self controlling and crazy. Assistant coaches, different story as often they play the role of being the buddy to the kid that just got verbally accosted by the head coach, so they have to maintain a different attitude and perspective.
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This is where I get in trouble here and people get upset, but I don't know any other way to answer this then through personal experiences....so blast away.
I've worked with or for many coaches, and all of them are intense as hell. Personally, the only one that was "normal" outside of work and even at work that participated in a high profile sport is Mike Scioscia (named AL manager of the year today). Certainly there are many others that are not in high profile jobs that pulled it off because the stressors are different. Markus Roeders can be really intense, but he's a sweetheart off the pitch...as an example.
For college basketball coaches, whether it was K.O., Mike Deane, Mike Rice, Matt Doherty, Tom Crean, Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Joe Maddon, Craig Hartsburg, Terry Collins, Guy Charron, etc....all of them were intense on and off in my interactions with them. Don't take intense to mean prickly, some were and some weren't, but all of them were intense. I'm sure there will be some folks here that will question what that means for say a M. Deane. An inability to separate themselves from the reality in which they lived would be my definition. Consumed by it. When I see Roy Williams on tv I crack up, that "oh shucks diggity dog" routine is not how he is. I've stated this before, but in my view when your life is dependent upon 17 to 22 year old young men and their actions on and off the court, it makes you self controlling and crazy. Assistant coaches, different story as often they play the role of being the buddy to the kid that just got verbally accosted by the head coach, so they have to maintain a different attitude and perspective.
Well said. Head coach/assistant coach is basically good cop/bad cop. Hard to know for sure how Wojo will act now that's he's in charge. I suspect he'll pick up a T or two, but he won't be doing any silly dances at center court.
Had a few interactions with KO back in the day. Man, he was the living definition of prickly.
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Funny, looks more like a worthless piece of sh*t to me.
Definitely not worthless
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/ted-nugent-net-worth/
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Had a few interactions with KO back in the day. Man, he was the living definition of prickly.
Without any doubt. TC was the same way. MD could be that way, but if you were in his circle he was a good dude...a lot of fun, but if you weren't in that circle he could come across as prickly.
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Without any doubt. TC was the same way. MD could be that way, but if you were in his circle he was a good dude...a lot of fun, but if you weren't in that circle he could come across as prickly.
Had to shoot some commercials with KO. He was a terror. Impatient, condescending, and vulgar. Tough for a young guy fresh out of school directing his first ad shoot.
Is/was TC the same way? Never met him.
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Had to shoot some commercials with KO. He was a terror. Impatient, condescending, and vulgar. Tough for a young guy fresh out of school directing his first ad shoot.
Is/was TC the same way? Never met him.
No, TC would actually do anything you asked him to do for the program....commercials, appearances, call season ticket holders on the phone, etc. Never an issue on that stuff. He's just stubborn and it's his way or the highway. I don't care what business you are in, that gets old very soon especially if there are many ways to skin the cat that don't conform to his way. To be fair, never an issue for me personally as I left on my own terms. Others, were around for quite some time. Coach Knight, definitely a his way or the highway guy which should shock nobody on planet earth.
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This is where I get in trouble here and people get upset, but I don't know any other way to answer this then through personal experiences....so blast away.
I've worked with or for many coaches, and all of them are intense as hell. Personally, the only one that was "normal" outside of work and even at work that participated in a high profile sport is Mike Scioscia (named AL manager of the year today). Certainly there are many others that are not in high profile jobs that pulled it off because the stressors are different. Markus Roeders can be really intense, but he's a sweetheart off the pitch...as an example.
For college basketball coaches, whether it was K.O., Mike Deane, Mike Rice, Matt Doherty, Tom Crean, Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Joe Maddon, Craig Hartsburg, Terry Collins, Guy Charron, etc....all of them were intense on and off in my interactions with them. Don't take intense to mean prickly, some were and some weren't, but all of them were intense. I'm sure there will be some folks here that will question what that means for say a M. Deane. An inability to separate themselves from the reality in which they lived would be my definition. Consumed by it. When I see Roy Williams on tv I crack up, that "oh shucks diggity dog" routine is not how he is. I've stated this before, but in my view when your life is dependent upon 17 to 22 year old young men and their actions on and off the court, it makes you self controlling and crazy. Assistant coaches, different story as often they play the role of being the buddy to the kid that just got verbally accosted by the head coach, so they have to maintain a different attitude and perspective.
I appreciate this insight.
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No, TC would actually do anything you asked him to do for the program....commercials, appearances, call season ticket holders on the phone, etc. Never an issue on that stuff. He's just stubborn and it's his way or the highway. I don't care what business you are in, that gets old very soon especially if there are many ways to skin the cat that don't conform to his way. To be fair, never an issue for me personally as I left on my own terms. Others, were around for quite some time. Coach Knight, definitely a his way or the highway guy which should shock nobody on planet earth.
Well Done Sir!!
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Intense is one thing, being crazy is another. There is nothing wrong with intense.
+1. I want the guy whose players can feed off his energy. I also prefer the guy who is calm and collected during public/media appearances to the guy who is all worked up for no reason and makes an ass of himself.
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Does he know the words to Country Roads, and can he dance?
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(http://www.vinylrecords.ch/T/TE/Ted_Nugent/Intensities/ted-nugent-intensities-1117.jpg)
Wang dang sweet poontang
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Definitely not worthless
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/ted-nugent-net-worth/
Uncle Ted must not have saved well
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Take a look at who he learned from. Coach K isn't exactly a can of peaches behind closed doors and he comes from the Bob Knight coaching tree.
Absolutely, sit behind a Duke bench during an ACC game and listen to Coach K's vocabulary and intensity...he's no teddy bear.