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The Most Famous Movie Set In Every State
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-famous-movie-set-in-every-state-2014-7?op=1
Everyone has that one movie that reminds them of home.
We set out to name the most famous movie in every state — a challenging and subjective endeavor. Some states were more obvious than others. While there's no place like Kansas, New York has inspired directors ranging from Martin Scorsese to Woody Allen to Rob Reiner.
To pick the most famous, we evaluated the state's prominence in the movie and leaned toward movies that were filmed in that location as well. The movie's lifetime gross, its critical acclaim, and testimonials by our geographically diverse staff also influenced our decision.
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WISCONSIN: "Dawn of the Dead" (2004)
When the fictional town of Everett, Wisconsin, is overrun by zombies, a resilient group of human survivors bands together in the local mall to stay alive.
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It fits that Wisconsin is famous for the Zombie Apocalypse ... see Wells Street after 2AM!
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On the Waterfront was filmed entirely in New Jersey. It was nominated for 12 academy awards and won 8 including best actor and best picture.
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This story lists "Caddyshack" as being set in Nebraska. Don't think so. Brian Doyle Murray wrote it based on his experiences looping at hoity toity Indian Hill Country Club in Winnetka, Il.l
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Though I live in SD the iconic California movie for me is Hitchcock's "The Birds" and picturesque Bodega Bay.
For Illinois my nominee is " The Blue's Brothers"
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This story lists "Caddyshack" as being set in Nebraska. Don't think so. Brian Doyle Murray wrote it based on his experiences looping at hoity toity Indian Hill Country Club in Winnetka, Il.l
As the piece states, "Caddyshack" never explicitly names its geographic setting, there are a couple of allusions to Nebraska. Using your logic, "The Shining" can't be set in Colorado because Stephen King did not grow up there.
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Hard for me to think of a movie shot in Southern California...
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Shawn of the Dead?
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Shawn of the Dead?
For Connecticut I guessed they were going to say Mystic Pizza. Stepford Wives is probably more well-known. Throw in Holiday Inn, which was probably filmed on a sound stage somewhere, and that's about it for famous movies set in CT.
So many movies in California hard to pick one, but it seems that San Francisco is the California area where you get the most feel for the local geography and landmarks in movies. Fisherman's Wharf, Golden Gate Bridge, the Transamerica building, Alcatraz, etc. Moreso than LA, anyway.
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As the piece states, "Caddyshack" never explicitly names its geographic setting, there are a couple of allusions to Nebraska. Using your logic, "The Shining" can't be set in Colorado because Stephen King did not grow up there.
Bad analogy. The screenwriter grew up caddying at a snobbish, very exclusive country club in the toniest of Chicago's north shore suburbs. He has said he based the movie and the people in it on that experience. Nebraska is about as far from that kind of experience and those type of people as it gets. It would be like setting "Taxi Driver" in Kansas.
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Though I live in SD the iconic California movie for me is Hitchcock's "The Birds" and picturesque Bodega Bay.
For Illinois my nominee is " The Blue's Brothers"
Freeway scenes filmed in MKE while the exit ramps on 794 were stub ends.
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Groundhog Day with Bill Murray was filmed in Woodstock, IL...minutes from where I live.
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I was guessing Purple Rain for Minnesota, but Mighty Ducks works as well.
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Grumpy Old Men reminds me of Minnesota more than The Mighty Ducks, but still a classic childhood movie.
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Grumpy Old Men reminds me of Minnesota more than The Mighty Ducks, but still a classic childhood movie.
That's a good shout too.
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Shawn of the Dead?
Well, there is many a tavern in Wisconsin that closely resembles the Winchester.
Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy.... I highly recommend downloading the bundle off iTunes. Hot Fuzz and Shawn of the Dead have to be two of the biggest sleeper classics this side of the pond.
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And for those of you who failed Drama & Lit in HS... there is a difference between where a film is "shot," where it is "set," and where the author drew his/her inspiration.
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I was guessing Purple Rain for Minnesota, but Mighty Ducks works as well.
Fargo is the movie that immediately springs to my mind for Minnesota. I know Fargo is in ND, but 95% of the movie takes place in Minnesota and they use the Minnesota landscape (and over the top caricatures of the local populace) to set the tone for the whole movie. I'm guessing he used Fargo for North Dakota because what else was he going to use? There were a few other choices for MN.
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And for those of you who failed Drama & Lit in HS... there is a difference between where a film is "shot," where it is "set," and where the author drew his/her inspiration.
True. Where a movie is "shot" is completely beside the point. And the author need not set the film in the area that inspired him (though he commonly will, and he certainly won't set it in an area that is antithetic to the one that inspired him).
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Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy.... I highly recommend downloading the bundle off iTunes. Hot Fuzz and Shawn of the Dead have to be two of the biggest sleeper classics this side of the pond.
I'm an old man and missed Hot Fuzz and Shawn of the Dead the first time around. I read a review of The World's End and was intrigued. It was so laugh out loud funny I made it a point to watch the first two in the trilogy. Sleeper classics indeed.
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For Connecticut I guessed they were going to say Mystic Pizza. Stepford Wives is probably more well-known. Throw in Holiday Inn, which was probably filmed on a sound stage somewhere, and that's about it for famous movies set in CT.
So many movies in California hard to pick one, but it seems that San Francisco is the California area where you get the most feel for the local geography and landmarks in movies. Fisherman's Wharf, Golden Gate Bridge, the Transamerica building, Alcatraz, etc. Moreso than LA, anyway.
Good call on the two alternates CTWarrior. I was questioning this one. There is also, Christmas in Connecticut.
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"Walk the Line" is an interesting choice for Tennessee. Any biopic of a country star has a huge chunk of the movie set in Tennessee. Another possibility would have been "The Firm", which was set in Memphis.
In the mid-'70's Burt Reynolds shot a movie in Nashville (the forgettable "W.W. and the Dixie Dance Kings"), and I remember all the locals losing their sh!t over it.
For awhile, Nashville was a popular place to film movies as a generic city, a la Toronto. I'd be watching a film and realize that a car chase was taking place on a street not too far from where I grew up.
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Every Tuesday Dallas was shot at a park a half block from my house. Got so the actors knew the local kids by name and were very chummy with them.
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Shouldn't "Bridesmaids" be the most famous film set in Wisconsin?
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Shouldn't "Bridesmaids" be the most famous film set in Wisconsin?
I would think DotD would be more famous based on the idea that, generally speaking, female interest in horror/zombie flicks dwarfs any hetero-male interest in Bridesmaids.
IMO - a "most famous" film has to have mass-appeal. Honest question (as I haven't seen it) does Bridesmaids have any appeal outside of the cisgender female audience?
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I would think DotD would be more famous based on the idea that, generally speaking, female interest in horror/zombie flicks dwarfs any hetero-male interest in Bridesmaids.
IMO - a "most famous" film has to have mass-appeal. Honest question (as I haven't seen it) does Bridesmaids have any appeal outside of the cisgender female audience?
Worldwide Grosses per IMDB:
DotD: $55 million
Bridesmaids $288 million
And yes, I believe there are more guys who have seen "Bridesmaids" than women who have seen "DotD."
If you haven't seen it, you are missing out on one funny film. It's not just a chick movie. That's like saying only guys would think "The Hangover" is funny.
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I have a real problem with A Christmas Story beating out Hoosiers.
1. You can't watch Hoosiers without knowing it was set in Indiana. In CS, every reference to "Indiana" from which one could discern the film's setting is (I think there are two) very subtle... miss it and you could easily mistake it for being set in an Illinois-side suburb of Chicago.
2. Just about the entire movie [Hoosiers] was filmed in Indiana. In fact, two of the most memorable scenes in Hoosiers (measuring of the FT line/rim & championship game) were not just filmed in Indiana, but in the exact place where the title game at the center of the plot is played today. CS was shot on location almost entirely in Cleveland.
3. Bobby Plump's character in the film (Jimmy Chitwood) was played by a Chatard alum. In fact, they moved a BRHS/Chatard HS game to Hinkle for the movie just so they would have enough extras for filming the final game.
I could go on, but these are the top 3.
Does anyone disagree?
EDIT: Sorry, I need to go on...
4) Hoosiers nominated for two Academy Awards. Christmas Story, none.
5) Lifetime gross: Hoosiers, $28M; Christmas Story, $21M.
6) Rotten Tomatoes: Hoosiers, 88%; Christmas Story, 88%
7) IMDb Metascore: Hoosiers, 76; Christmas Story, 77
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I have a real problem with A Christmas Story beating out Hoosiers.
1. You can't watch Hoosiers without knowing it was set in Indiana. In CS, every reference to "Indiana" from which one could discern the film's setting is (I think there are two) very subtle... miss it and you could easily mistake it for being set in an Illinois-side suburb of Chicago.
2. Just about the entire movie was filmed in Indiana. In fact, two of the most memorable scenes in Hoosiers (measuring of the FT line/rim & championship game) were not just filmed in Indiana, but in the exact place where the title game at the center of the plot is played today. CS was shot on location almost entirely in Cleveland.
3. Bobby Plump's character in the film (Jimmy Chitwood) was played by a Chatard alum. In fact, they moved a BRHS/Chatard HS game to Hinkle for the movie just so they would have enough extras for filming the final game.
I could go on, but these are the top 3.
Does anyone disagree?
Is the question about which is the most famous film? Because I think "A Christmas Story" might be more famous than "Hoosiers."
Hoosiers is undoubtedly "more Indiana" than A Christmas Story...but that doesn't make it more famous.
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Groundhog Day with Bill Murray was filmed in Woodstock, IL...minutes from where I live.
No one cares McHenry boy.
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Is the question about which is the most famous film? Because I think "A Christmas Story" might be more famous than "Hoosiers."
Hoosiers is undoubtedly "more Indiana" than A Christmas Story...but that doesn't make it more famous.
I go back to the mass-appeal argument --- Christmas Story doesn't have the mass-appeal that Hoosiers does.
Example: Locales such as China and Skokie, IL don't even celebrate Christmas, but they certainly play basketball.
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I know plenty of women that watch a Christmas Story every year (Hi Mom!) but have never watched Hoosiers
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I go back to the mass-appeal argument --- Christmas Story doesn't have the mass-appeal that Hoosiers does.
Example: Locales such as China and Skokie, IL don't even celebrate Christmas, but they certainly play basketball.
Hahahah, the Skokie example made me laugh, especially because its true. I mean just look at Niles North. One of the best basketball teams in the entire northern suburbs (maybe even state pending on the year) but half of their student body doesnt celebrate Christmas.
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I go back to the mass-appeal argument --- Christmas Story doesn't have the mass-appeal that Hoosiers does.
Example: Locales such as China and Skokie, IL don't even celebrate Christmas, but they certainly play basketball.
Christmas has a bigger mass appeal than high school basketball. It's not even remotely close.
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I go back to the mass-appeal argument --- Christmas Story doesn't have the mass-appeal that Hoosiers does.
Example: Locales such as China and Skokie, IL don't even celebrate Christmas, but they certainly play basketball.
Per the article, here is how they described "Famous"
To pick the most famous, we evaluated the state's prominence in the movie and leaned toward movies that were filmed in that location as well. The movie's lifetime gross, its critical acclaim, and testimonials by our geographically diverse staff also influenced our decision.
"Dawn of the Dead" was set in a fictional town, and 99% of the scenes were inside a generic shopping mall that could have been anywhere in North America. And not one frame was actually shot in Wisconsin. It was done entirely in Pennsylvania.
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I go back to the mass-appeal argument --- Christmas Story doesn't have the mass-appeal that Hoosiers does.
I doubt that. I bet you way more people have seen the former. I know this is simply anecdotal, but every Christmas I see dozens of quotes, etc. about the movie on Facebook, Twitter, etc. because it is on 24 hours on TBS.
Hoosiers is a movie that was released 28 years ago, and to my knowledge isn't on television all that often. I can't remember the last time I watched it.
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Christmas has a bigger mass appeal than high school basketball. It's not even remotely close.
It was a tongue in cheek comment because Skokie has a large jewish population.
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It was a tongue in cheek comment because Skokie has a large jewish population.
Yes, I got that. But the fact remains there are very few things in the states with a bigger mass appeal than Christmas and high school basketball isn't one of them. Even in Skokie.
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I doubt that. I bet you way more people have seen the former. I know this is simply anecdotal, but every Christmas I see dozens of quotes, etc. about the movie on Facebook, Twitter, etc. because it is on 24 hours on TBS.
Hoosiers is a movie that was released 28 years ago, and to my knowledge isn't on television all that often. I can't remember the last time I watched it.
To Benny B, Mass appeal = Something Benny B personally prefers.
Therefore,
Basketball > Christmas
Cult zombie gore > Mainstream, critically acclaimed comedy
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Worldwide Grosses per IMDB:
DotD: $55 million
Bridesmaids $288 million
And yes, I believe there are more guys who have seen "Bridesmaids" than women who have seen "DotD."
If you haven't seen it, you are missing out on one funny film. It's not just a chick movie. That's like saying only guys would think "The Hangover" is funny.
Any part of Bridesmaids that does not focus on Kristen Wiig/Maya Rudolph is hilarious. Unfortunately you have to wade through a lot of Kristen Wiig moping to get to the funny parts.
Kristen Wiig's whole comedic career (every recurring character on SNL like Gilly, the Target Lady, the I can top this lady, half of the A**h*** couple; Dewey's first wife in Walk Hard, etc) is based on being annoying. I don't find annoying characters funny, just annoying. Of course that's just me.
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Any part of Bridesmaids that does not focus on Kristen Wiig/Maya Rudolph is hilarious. Unfortunately you have to wade through a lot of Kristen Wiig moping to get to the funny parts.
Kristen Wiig's whole comedic career (every recurring character on SNL like Gilly, the Target Lady, the I can top this lady, half of the A**h*** couple; Dewey's first wife in Walk Hard, etc) is based on being annoying. I don't find annoying characters funny, just annoying. Of course that's just me.
It's not just you. I find the characters she has created to be repetitious and unfunny. Bridesmaids was very funny - she was OK, but Melissa McCarthy stole the movie.
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Hard for me to think of a movie shot in Southern California...
There you go stirring up trouble!
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Hard for me to think of a movie shot in Southern California...
Behind The Green Door, aina?
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"Walk the Line" is an interesting choice for Tennessee. Any biopic of a country star has a huge chunk of the movie set in Tennessee. Another possibility would have been "The Firm", which was set in Memphis.
In the mid-'70's Burt Reynolds shot a movie in Nashville (the forgettable "W.W. and the Dixie Dance Kings"), and I remember all the locals losing their sh!t over it.
For awhile, Nashville was a popular place to film movies as a generic city, a la Toronto. I'd be watching a film and realize that a car chase was taking place on a street not too far from where I grew up.
Coulda sworn "The Firm" I saw was filmed in the Valley, hey?
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Actually I think a fair number of people are missing another well regarded comedy that definitely trumps DotD set in Wisconsin, where the Wisconsin setting was actually part of the premise, to a certain extent.
Dogma
I'd also argue that The Great Outdoors(they were vacationing in Wisconsin) was a bigger movie than DotD. If you scrub the one almost reference to Wisconsin from the movie, do you even know(or care) where the movie is set? I mean what island in Lake Michigan do they land on at the very end of the movie????
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They screwed the pooch on Ohio, too. Heathers? Are you kidding me?
I can think of two movies right off the top of my head that would be better. Coincidentally, both have Marquette/Milwaukee connections:
Major League
Tommy Boy
Seriously...Heathers?
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The most famous movie *shot* in Wisconsin has to be "Major League" right?
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The most famous movie *shot* in Wisconsin has to be "Major League" right?
Agree 100%
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Actually I think a fair number of people are missing another well regarded comedy that definitely trumps DotD set in Wisconsin, where the Wisconsin setting was actually part of the premise, to a certain extent.
Dogma
I'd also argue that The Great Outdoors(they were vacationing in Wisconsin) was a bigger movie than DotD. If you scrub the one almost reference to Wisconsin from the movie, do you even know(or care) where the movie is set? I mean what island in Lake Michigan do they land on at the very end of the movie????
I was just going to say The Great Outdoors myself.
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To Benny B, Mass appeal = Something Benny B personally prefers.
Therefore,
Basketball > Christmas
Cult zombie gore > Mainstream, critically acclaimed comedy
Basketball and Christmas are not a dichotomy... enjoying one doesn't preclude you from enjoying the other. Preferring basketball over Christmas (or vice versa) would be like saying you prefer orange juice to Star Wars. If you took a survey nationwide and simply asked both questions, "do you like basketball" and "do you like Christmas movies," those answering affirmatively to the former would outnumber the latter.
Also, I'll concede that DotD is "cult zombie gore," but in fairness, isn't Bridesmaids more of a "chick flick" than a mainstream comedy? But my issue with Bridesmaids isn't that it is or isn't mainstream, it's that it attracts a certain audience based strictly on gender lines. Sure, a cult film may not appeal to everyone in the masses, but it doesn't draw a line amongst the masses according to race, creed, gender, nationality, etc. Bridesmaids does.
Case in point: Brokeback Mountain was widely acclaimed. A-List cast. Tremendous success at the box office. Won three Oscars. But if you were having an outdoor movie night for your neighborhood in the suburbs, do you think it would it be a good selection?
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The most famous movie *shot* in Wisconsin has to be "Major League" right?
Unequivocally.
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Also, I'll concede that DotD is "cult zombie gore," but in fairness, isn't Bridesmaids more of a "chick flick" than a mainstream comedy?
No.
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Basketball and Christmas are not a dichotomy... enjoying one doesn't preclude you from enjoying the other. Preferring basketball over Christmas (or vice versa) would be like saying you prefer orange juice to Star Wars. If you took a survey nationwide and simply asked both questions, "do you like basketball" and "do you like Christmas movies," those answering affirmatively to the former would outnumber the latter.
Also, I'll concede that DotD is "cult zombie gore," but in fairness, isn't Bridesmaids more of a "chick flick" than a mainstream comedy? But my issue with Bridesmaids isn't that it is or isn't mainstream, it's that it attracts a certain audience based strictly on gender lines. Sure, a cult film may not appeal to everyone in the masses, but it doesn't draw a line amongst the masses according to race, creed, gender, nationality, etc. Bridesmaids does.
Case in point: Brokeback Mountain was widely acclaimed. A-List cast. Tremendous success at the box office. Won three Oscars. But if you were having an outdoor movie night for your neighborhood in the suburbs, do you think it would it be a good selection?
Are you seriously comparing "Bridesmaids" to "Brokeback Mountain"?
And I wouldn't show "Bridesmaids" at a neighborhood outdoor movie night because it is not appropriate for kids. Would you show "Hangover"?
No open-minded person dismisses "Bridesmaids" as merely a chick flick. And I'd ask that you refrain from passing further judgment on its merits until you have actually seen it.
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I'll admit it, I had to google Bridesmaids. It does kind look chick-flickish IMO just from the IMDb description
Annie (Kristen Wiig), is a maid of honor whose life unravels as she leads her best friend, Lillian (Maya Rudolph), and a group of colorful bridesmaids (Rose Byrne, Melissa McCarthy, Wendi McLendon-Covey and Ellie Kemper) on a wild ride down the road to matrimony. Annie's life is a mess. But when she finds out her lifetime best friend is engaged, she simply must serve as Lillian's maid of honor. Though lovelorn and broke, Annie bluffs her way through the expensive and bizarre rituals. With one chance to get it perfect, she'll show Lillian and her bridesmaids just how far you'll go for someone you love
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I have a real problem with A Christmas Story beating out Hoosiers.
1. You can't watch Hoosiers without knowing it was set in Indiana. In CS, every reference to "Indiana" from which one could discern the film's setting is (I think there are two) very subtle... miss it and you could easily mistake it for being set in an Illinois-side suburb of Chicago.
2. Just about the entire movie [Hoosiers] was filmed in Indiana. In fact, two of the most memorable scenes in Hoosiers (measuring of the FT line/rim & championship game) were not just filmed in Indiana, but in the exact place where the title game at the center of the plot is played today. CS was shot on location almost entirely in Cleveland.
3. Bobby Plump's character in the film (Jimmy Chitwood) was played by a Chatard alum. In fact, they moved a BRHS/Chatard HS game to Hinkle for the movie just so they would have enough extras for filming the final game.
I could go on, but these are the top 3.
Does anyone disagree?
EDIT: Sorry, I need to go on...
4) Hoosiers nominated for two Academy Awards. Christmas Story, none.
5) Lifetime gross: Hoosiers, $28M; Christmas Story, $21M.
6) Rotten Tomatoes: Hoosiers, 88%; Christmas Story, 88%
7) IMDb Metascore: Hoosiers, 76; Christmas Story, 77
And here I always thought A Christmas Story took place in (and was filmed in) Cleveland, OH.
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Also, I'll concede that DotD is "cult zombie gore," but in fairness, isn't Bridesmaids more of a "chick flick" than a mainstream comedy? But my issue with Bridesmaids isn't that it is or isn't mainstream, it's that it attracts a certain audience based strictly on gender lines. Sure, a cult film may not appeal to everyone in the masses, but it doesn't draw a line amongst the masses according to race, creed, gender, nationality, etc. Bridesmaids does.
I thought Bridesmaids was the movie that ended up breaking the stereotype that women couldn't lead in a mainstream comedy movie....
Personally thought it was funny (at least as funny as any other goofy or slapstick comedy) and didn't realize I was making some sort of political statement.
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I'll admit it, I had to google Bridesmaids. It does kind look chick-flickish IMO just from the IMDb description
Honestly, the only people that think it is a chick flick are people who haven't seen it and assume because it's got an almost all female leads it HAS to be a chick flick.....no way all women could be just be a solid funny movie, am I right guys?
For me, the scene when they are trying on bridesmaid dresses is hands down funnier than almost anything in a Hangover movies (and I loved the first 1 and a half Hangovers)
This is one of those moments in life as my father use to say "It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" ;D
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As someone who loves both Dawn of the Dead and Bridesmaids, I feel it's my responsibility to weigh in. You're welcome in advance.
Bridesmaids---way bigger than Dawn of the Dead, but not sure that I would consider it a "Wisconsin" movie. About half of it takes place in Illinois.
The fake town for Dawn of the Dead surprises me. Could have sworn it was set in Milwaukee. In fact it was instrumental for developing my own Milwaukee zombie attack escape plan. Apparently that was flawed on my part. Thank God I never had to test it.
Dogma's a decent choice, but again, a lot of it takes place outside Wisconsin.
You're missing some other contenders, like Michael Clayton and the cinema classic, Mr. 3000 (RIP Bernie Mac).
However, my vote goes to Baseketball. Go Beers.
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So is "Debbie does Dallas" it for TX
And who could argue "clueless" for Cali
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As someone who loves both Dawn of the Dead and Bridesmaids, I feel it's my responsibility to weigh in. You're welcome in advance.
However, my vote goes to Baseketball. Go Beers.
Baseketball was filmed entirely in California. Shame on you, Zucker Brothers. And it grossed a whopping $7 million.
Go read the criteria again.
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Baseketball was filmed entirely in California. Shame on you, Zucker Brothers. And it grossed a whopping $7 million.
Go read the criteria again.
My Marquette education taught me that arbitrary criteria are no match for what lies in my heart.
On the other hand, Baseketball taught me that first I get a job, then I get khakis, then I get chicks. Those two pretty much have me covered.
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I have a real problem with A Christmas Story beating out Hoosiers.
1. You can't watch Hoosiers without knowing it was set in Indiana. In CS, every reference to "Indiana" from which one could discern the film's setting is (I think there are two) very subtle... miss it and you could easily mistake it for being set in an Illinois-side suburb of Chicago.
2. Just about the entire movie [Hoosiers] was filmed in Indiana. In fact, two of the most memorable scenes in Hoosiers (measuring of the FT line/rim & championship game) were not just filmed in Indiana, but in the exact place where the title game at the center of the plot is played today. CS was shot on location almost entirely in Cleveland.
3. Bobby Plump's character in the film (Jimmy Chitwood) was played by a Chatard alum. In fact, they moved a BRHS/Chatard HS game to Hinkle for the movie just so they would have enough extras for filming the final game.
I could go on, but these are the top 3.
Does anyone disagree?
EDIT: Sorry, I need to go on...
4) Hoosiers nominated for two Academy Awards. Christmas Story, none.
5) Lifetime gross: Hoosiers, $28M; Christmas Story, $21M.
6) Rotten Tomatoes: Hoosiers, 88%; Christmas Story, 88%
7) IMDb Metascore: Hoosiers, 76; Christmas Story, 77
Agree that Hoosiers is way better than A Christmas Story...but Breaking Away is much better than both. And while Hoosiers was nominated for 2 AAs and Christmas Story none...Breaking Away won the Oscar for Best Screenplay, and was nominated for 4 others. Also won a Golden Globe for best comedy. Filmed and set in Bloomington.
Edit: And Breaking Away has a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Are you seriously comparing "Bridesmaids" to "Brokeback Mountain"?
And I wouldn't show "Bridesmaids" at a neighborhood outdoor movie night because it is not appropriate for kids. Would you show "Hangover"?
No open-minded person dismisses "Bridesmaids" as merely a chick flick. And I'd ask that you refrain from passing further judgment on its merits until you have actually seen it.
Yes.
I don't know, because I am refraining from judgement of movies I have not seen; however, I think it's safe to say that just because a movie kills in the under 40 demo, it doesn't mean it has mass appeal.
I wasn't dismissing Bridesmaids as a chick flick... I am dismissing it because it is targeted toward a specific audience and therefore lacks mass appeal. This isn't me being judgmental, it's strictly an observation about how the studio positioned the film. You find me a marketing professional who can take an unbiased look at the publicity for the film and tell me that it wasn't being targeted primarily to a female audience, and I'll withdraw my argument.
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Yes.
I don't know, because I am refraining from judgement of movies I have not seen; however, I think it's safe to say that just because a movie kills in the under 40 demo, it doesn't mean it has mass appeal.
I wasn't dismissing Bridesmaids as a chick flick... I am dismissing it because it is targeted toward a specific audience and therefore lacks mass appeal. This isn't me being judgmental, it's strictly an observation about how the studio positioned the film. You find me a marketing professional who can take an unbiased look at the publicity for the film and tell me that it wasn't being targeted primarily to a female audience, and I'll withdraw my argument.
Show me a marketing plan that goes for "mass appeal", and I'll show you something that failed.
Everything has a target.
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Yes.
I don't know, because I am refraining from judgement of movies I have not seen; however, I think it's safe to say that just because a movie kills in the under 40 demo, it doesn't mean it has mass appeal.
I wasn't dismissing Bridesmaids as a chick flick... I am dismissing it because it is targeted toward a specific audience and therefore lacks mass appeal. This isn't me being judgmental, it's strictly an observation about how the studio positioned the film. You find me a marketing professional who can take an unbiased look at the publicity for the film and tell me that it wasn't being targeted primarily to a female audience, and I'll withdraw my argument.
Show me evidence it was targeted at women? I remember it as pretty agnostic in that regard.
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Bad analogy. The screenwriter grew up caddying at a snobbish, very exclusive country club in the toniest of Chicago's north shore suburbs. He has said he based the movie and the people in it on that experience. Nebraska is about as far from that kind of experience and those type of people as it gets. It would be like setting "Taxi Driver" in Kansas.
There is no contention that Indian Hill was a major inspiration for the film. Again, the article is about setting of a film and not where it was shot or about the inspiration for the film. You are using terrible logic and ignoring that it may actually be set in a state against your wishes. Basically you are stating Caddyshack can't possibly take place in Nebraska because it's Nebraska. What? Why do you care?
Do you feel like snobby people can't possibly live in the state of Nebraska? A false perception that Nebraska does not have wealthy residents? Country Clubs are non existent within the state?
In regard to Taxi Driver, it is pretty clear where that is set....sooo ok?. However, The character of Travis Bickle is partially based on Arthur Bremer (or Oliver Stone if you asked him). So, using your logic, Taxi Driver is now set in Milwaukee...except, it isn't.
If we get into characters that exhibit similar personality traits or characteristics as Travis Bickle, according to you, they can only live in New York City. Except, they can literally live anywhere.
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There is no contention that Indian Hill was a major inspiration for the film. Again, the article is about setting of a film and not where it was shot or about the inspiration for the film. You are using terrible logic and ignoring that it may actually be set in a state against your wishes. Basically you are stating Caddyshack can't possibly take place in Nebraska because it's Nebraska. What? Why do you care?
Do you feel like snobby people can't possibly live in the state of Nebraska? A false perception that Nebraska does not have wealthy residents? Country Clubs are non existent within the state?
In regard to Taxi Driver, it is pretty clear where that is set....sooo ok?. However, The character of Travis Bickle is partially based on Arthur Bremer (or Oliver Stone if you asked him). So, using your logic, Taxi Driver is now set in Milwaukee...except, it isn't.
If we get into characters that exhibit similar personality traits or characteristics as Travis Bickle, according to you, they can only live in New York City. Except, they can literally live anywhere.
He was lampooning the people he knew in his youth. Those people were from a country club in Winnetka, Il., which is about as much like Nebraska as New York city is like Boise. Is it possible that Doyle-Murray would set a story from his youth in Nebraska? Sure, but there's no evidence in the film that I've seen. You?
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He was lampooning the people he knew in his youth. Those people were from a country club in Winnetka, Il., which is about as much like Nebraska as New York city is like Boise. Is it possible that Doyle-Murray would set a story from his youth in Nebraska? Sure, but there's no evidence in the film that I've seen. You?
I've never thought about it, it doesn't matter what I think, you are basing your argument on your feelings. A brief search seems to provide additional sources that the film is indeed set in the state of Nebraska.
According to IMDB, "While the movie was filmed in Ft Lauderdale, FL the country club was supposed to be located in Nebraska. In preparation for filming certain scenes they spent many days spraypainting the grass blue around the clubhouse."
Further research turned up:
"The first allusion to this setting comes when Danny consults Ty Webb on going to college. Webb asks: "Do you want to go to college?" "In Nebraska?", Danny replies incredulously. (I will admit as a native Nebraskan that my home state does have something of a "brain drain" of students going out of state for higher education, but the honest truth is that Nebraska does have one of the highest percentages of high school graduates attending college of any state in the union, and is consistently among the top ten states in the nation for standardized test scores. Just thought I'd throw that in.) Danny is apparently bucking for a placement at the fictional "St. Copious of Northern Nebraska". Must be close to Carhenge - but that's another quiz. The Nebraska connection comes up later when Al Czervik ends one of his exchanges with Tony: "When are you due back in Boys Town?" Boys Town is an incorporated village in suburban Omaha, Nebraska dedicated to at risk youth. Founded in 1921 by Catholic clergyman Edward J. Flanagan, the community, now known as Girls and Boys Town, was the basis of a 1938 movie starring Mickey Rooney and Spencer Tracy, with Tracy winning an Oscar for his role as Father Flanagan. Rodney Dangerfield, unfortunately, was denied this honor for "Caddyshack"."
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I've never thought about it, it doesn't matter what I think, you are basing your argument on your feelings. A brief search seems to provide additional sources that the film is indeed set in the state of Nebraska.
According to IMDB, "While the movie was filmed in Ft Lauderdale, FL the country club was supposed to be located in Nebraska. In preparation for filming certain scenes they spent many days spraypainting the grass blue around the clubhouse."
Further research turned up:
"The first allusion to this setting comes when Danny consults Ty Webb on going to college. Webb asks: "Do you want to go to college?" "In Nebraska?", Danny replies incredulously. (I will admit as a native Nebraskan that my home state does have something of a "brain drain" of students going out of state for higher education, but the honest truth is that Nebraska does have one of the highest percentages of high school graduates attending college of any state in the union, and is consistently among the top ten states in the nation for standardized test scores. Just thought I'd throw that in.) Danny is apparently bucking for a placement at the fictional "St. Copious of Northern Nebraska". Must be close to Carhenge - but that's another quiz. The Nebraska connection comes up later when Al Czervik ends one of his exchanges with Tony: "When are you due back in Boys Town?" Boys Town is an incorporated village in suburban Omaha, Nebraska dedicated to at risk youth. Founded in 1921 by Catholic clergyman Edward J. Flanagan, the community, now known as Girls and Boys Town, was the basis of a 1938 movie starring Mickey Rooney and Spencer Tracy, with Tracy winning an Oscar for his role as Father Flanagan. Rodney Dangerfield, unfortunately, was denied this honor for "Caddyshack"."
Okay, you win. Nebraska has people every bit as pompous, self important and snobbish as anything Doyle-Murray could have encountered in Winnetka.
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Okay, you win. Nebraska has people every bit as pompous, self important and snobbish as anything Doyle-Murray could have encountered in Winnetka.
It's a movie, man, relax.
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It's a movie, man, relax.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Peace.
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Show me evidence it was targeted at women? I remember it as pretty agnostic in that regard.
A) the studio dubbed it as "the female Hangover."
B) The most prominent of the studio-selected endorsements that appear on the theatre poster are from Cosmopolitan, More and Red Magazine.
C) The movie debuted to an audience that was 67% female.
D) Most media outlets and critics refer to it as some analogue of a "female-targeted film"
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Man Wisconsin really has little draw as a setting for a film if Dawn of the Dead is the selection, with Bridesmaids being a mention.
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A) the studio dubbed it as "the female Hangover."
B) The most prominent of the studio-selected endorsements that appear on the theatre poster are from Cosmopolitan, More and Red Magazine.
C) The movie debuted to an audience that was 67% female.
D) Most media outlets and critics refer to it as some analogue of a "female-targeted film"
Wow, you appear to have done an awful lot of research given you have never actually watched this movie. Are you that desperate to prove that you are right?
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Wow, you appear to have done an awful lot of research given you have never actually watched this movie. Are you that desperate to prove that you are right?
He's out surveying the Jews and Chinese of Skokie right now.
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Behind The Green Door, aina?
Marilyn Chambers fan?
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He's out surveying the Jews and Chinese of Skokie right now.
This is probably the funniest thing I've read tonight...well played.
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Marilyn Chambers fan?
Had the hots for her as the Ivory Snowflake babe. 99 & 44/100% pure, aina?
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Wow, you appear to have done an awful lot of research given you have never actually watched this movie. Are you that desperate to prove that you are right?
Step 1, Google. Step 2, Ctrl-C. Step 3, Ctrl-V. It's really not that difficult or time consuming at all.
I simply offered an opinion, and I backed it up when asked. You don't have to have seen a movie to understand who the target audience is... that can reasonably be ascertained from the publicity and advertising by anyone who has taken Intro to Marketing.
He's out surveying the Jews and Chinese of Skokie right now.
So far, I've gathered they're all big fans of Niv.
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Agree that Hoosiers is way better than A Christmas Story...but Breaking Away is much better than both. And while Hoosiers was nominated for 2 AAs and Christmas Story none...Breaking Away won the Oscar for Best Screenplay, and was nominated for 4 others. Also won a Golden Globe for best comedy. Filmed and set in Bloomington.
Edit: And Breaking Away has a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes.
So I went home, and as luck would have it, my mother-in-law and father-in-law from Indiana were visiting. I gave them the criteria, and before I could finish, my wife and father-in-law cut me off with Hoosiers, but then my mother-in-law threw out Breaking Away and my wife changed her vote. So official count was Breaking Away 2, Hoosiers 1.
But then I asked them a hypothetical... "had you not lived in Bloomington when they filmed the movie," (which they did), "would you still have said Breaking Away?" My mother-in-law said probably not, but my wife stuck with Breaking Away. My father-in-law stood his ground with Hoosiers because he couldn't vote for Blues Brothers.
So not even the native Indianans can decide where they stand on this one.
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In regard to "A Christmas Story", the film is so popular TBS/TNT has shown 24 hour marathons of the film on Christmas/Christmas eve since 1997. I don't think any other film set in the the state of Indiana has ever had a 24 block of TV dedicated to it.
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If you took a survey nationwide and simply asked both questions, "do you like basketball" and "do you like Christmas movies," those answering affirmatively to the former would outnumber the latter.
Except that is not the relevant question. The relevant questions are "Do you like basketball movies?" and "Do you like Christmas movies?" Asked like that, I'd bet Christmas wins.