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Title: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: mu03eng on October 17, 2014, 10:46:34 AM
Random thought popped into my head after the JFB thread, and I thought a good non-threating poll would be in order for a Friday so close to the season.

Who is your favorite MU player currently in the NBA.  I generated the list from the basketball reference website so it is based on current contracts for 2014 and what they classify as "in the NBA".  Also the poll is intended as who is your current favorite, not who was your favorite while at Marquette.  Curious to see who ends up the winner.

I blanked out the results until you vote because I don't want any bias...this is scientific man!
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MDMU04 on October 17, 2014, 10:49:01 AM
Favorite player during his time at MU who is currently in the NBA: Wade
Favorite former MU player currently in the NBA: JFB
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 17, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
Don't consider blue or DJO or Buycks (anymore) still in the NBA so I say Jimmy though if jimmy wasn't on the Bulls itd probs be Wes
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Sharpie on October 17, 2014, 11:07:42 AM
I don't really care what the criteria are as far as "in the nba." It's more fun to have a bigger list anyways. So, let's not argue who is or isn't.

JFB. Hands down.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: wadesworld on October 17, 2014, 12:04:36 PM
Buncha FIBs in here.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: ATVSandKARATE on October 17, 2014, 12:21:35 PM
I know he isn't a player anymore, but what about Doc? He is in the NBA, and seems to be universally liked. Would someone have picked him instead of those listed?
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: wadesworld on October 17, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
Does the NBDL/Toddler count?
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 17, 2014, 12:51:37 PM
DWade hands down. Best thing that happened to Marquette in the past 30+ years, plus he earned himself a couple of rings.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 17, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
DWade hands down. Best thing that happened to Marquette in the past 30+ years, plus he earned himself a couple of three rings.

DWade has three. Got one on his own without LeBron, while LeBron has never won a ring without Wade. Hope that remains a fact for eternity. Wade's legacy will only be greater if so!
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 17, 2014, 01:06:09 PM
DWade hands down. Best thing that happened to Marquette in the past 30+ years, plus he earned himself a couple of rings.

He's such an unlikable NBA player though.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: buckchuckler on October 17, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
Buncha FIBs in here.

Yeah, like half of MU, and just like the guy that is clearly the best player on this list.  It is the damn cheese mongers with their badger obsession that makes this place so weird. 
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: mu03eng on October 17, 2014, 01:45:38 PM
Yeah, like half of MU, and just like the guy that is clearly the best player on this list.  It is the damn cheese mongers with their badger obsession that makes this place so weird. 

While I agree there is a clear Bulls bias in the voting, I don't think there is any way that Jimmy is a better player now than Wesley.  Right now Wesley is the best player on the list.  JFB is my favorite(and I hate all Chicago sports....you people are the worst) because of the way he plays, his subtle swag, and my favorite nickname ever.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: reinko on October 17, 2014, 01:58:36 PM
While not in the NBA anymore, Buycks was a favorite of mine.  MKE kid, longest of the long shots to make it to the Association. 
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: WarriorInNYC on October 17, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
This is tough for me.  I love JFB, but dislike the Bulls. 

Voted Wes as he was also one of my favorites while I went to school and had a class with him freshman year.  Great guy and awesome player.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MU82 on October 17, 2014, 02:15:57 PM
He's such an unlikable NBA player though.

I don't dislike him one iota.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 17, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
I don't dislike him one iota.

Me neither. Favorite baller ever in his prime, followed by Olajuwon, Ray Allen, then any former MU player.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MU B2002 on October 17, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
I don't dislike him one iota.

+1


I feel like a lot of the dislike towards D Wade, is simply due to Lebron.

Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 17, 2014, 02:49:10 PM
While I agree there is a clear Bulls bias in the voting, I don't think there is any way that Jimmy is a better player now than Wesley.  Right now Wesley is the best player on the list.  JFB is my favorite(and I hate all Chicago sports....you people are the worst) because of the way he plays, his subtle swag, and my favorite nickname ever.

After yesterday he just might be better now. Two days ago I would've agreed with you.  Also Boston fans are much worse than us in Chicago the entitlement to winning out there is insane
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Lacrosse218 on October 17, 2014, 03:02:21 PM
While I agree there is a clear Bulls bias in the voting, I don't think there is any way that Jimmy is a better player now than Wesley.  Right now Wesley is the best player on the list.  JFB is my favorite(and I hate all Chicago sports....you people are the worst) because of the way he plays, his subtle swag, and my favorite nickname ever.

Maybe I am misinterpreting what you are inferring, but if you think Wesley is better than DWade even now you are crazy.  DWade is not what he was, but is still far and away more skilled than Wes.  Not hating on Wes, just stating the facts.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 17, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
I cheer for all the MU guys above any NBA team, but Wade is a cut above.  I was a Senior in 2003 so I got to experience two years of Wade's magic.  His 2006 NBA Finals performance was 2nd best I've seen behind Jordan's ridiculous 41 ppg Finals in 1993 against the Suns.  By game 5, I was telling my buddies what plays Miami would run---get the ball to Wade and get the F*** out of the way!
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: warriorchick on October 17, 2014, 03:07:41 PM
While I agree there is a clear Bulls bias in the voting, I don't think there is any way that Jimmy is a better player now than Wesley.  Right now Wesley is the best player on the list.  JFB is my favorite(and I hate all Chicago sports....you people are the worst) because of the way he plays, his subtle swag, and my favorite nickname ever.

Really, When was the last time Wes got compared to Michael Jordan by one of Michael's former teammates?

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/16/6992165/jimmy-butler-hits-game-winner-gets-compared-to-michael-jordan-by
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 17, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
+1


I feel like a lot of the dislike towards D Wade, is simply due to Lebron.



Disagree a ton. From someone who had zero connection with MU before being a freshman in 2011-12 watching him play in the NBA was awful. He was as bad as LeBron with the complaining and flopping before LeBron got there. I understand why people who were connected with MU long before I was love him so much but still just not a fan.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: jsglow on October 17, 2014, 03:30:18 PM
Da Bulls.   ;D
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: mu03eng on October 17, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
Really, When was the last time Wes got compared to Michael Jordan by one of Michael's former teammates?

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/16/6992165/jimmy-butler-hits-game-winner-gets-compared-to-michael-jordan-by

So seat of the pants hyperbola counts as proof now? 
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: GooooMarquette on October 17, 2014, 03:53:42 PM
While not in the NBA anymore, Buycks was a favorite of mine.  MKE kid, longest of the long shots to make it to the Association. 


Agree 100%.  All the NBA guys work their tails off, but Buycks went above and beyond to get his shot.  I was absolutely thrilled when I heard he signed a guaranteed contract.  Would have loved to see him stick longer...but Valencia isn't such a bad place to make a living.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: wadesworld on October 17, 2014, 04:19:09 PM
Gotta love coming to conclusions based on one NBA preseason game!  Chicago sports fans, baby.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: warriorchick on October 17, 2014, 04:20:39 PM
So seat of the pants hyperbola counts as proof now?  

What does plane geometry have to do with this?
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Afroman on October 17, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Jimmy got my vote, but Wes is a very close second.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 17, 2014, 05:41:14 PM
Scoop had Buzz cutting Jimmy's schollie his sophomore year.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MU82 on October 17, 2014, 06:33:04 PM
Really, When was the last time Wes got compared to Michael Jordan by one of Michael's former teammates?

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/16/6992165/jimmy-butler-hits-game-winner-gets-compared-to-michael-jordan-by

So a know-nothing yahoo -- a guy MJ had zero respect for, BTW -- uses a preseason game to compare a role player with the greatest hoopster ever. Ugh.

And not to diminish Jimmy's game-winner -- because it was a great shot -- but the Bulls were only in position to win because Thibs put the starters back in in the fourth quarter against Atlanta's scrubs.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 17, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
So a know-nothing yahoo -- a guy MJ had zero respect for, BTW -- uses a preseason game to compare a role player with the greatest hoopster ever. Ugh.

And not to diminish Jimmy's game-winner -- because it was a great shot -- but the Bulls were only in position to win because Thibs put the starters back in in the fourth quarter against Atlanta's scrubs.

Very true, however, Budenholzer had some starters in there as well.  Thibs only put starters JFB, Noah and Gasol with six minutes to go...And the "scrubs" included Brand, Payne and starter Shroeder.  JFB scored 20 in 6.

To the point, Thibs let Jimmy take over at the end...ran plays for him, asked him to take over defensively. By my count, of the ten players for most of the 4th, JFB was the 8th highest paid.  Here is the understory:  Thibs, well known to hate Bulls management, was sending a message to the ownership and some certain star players. Fact is, Noah and Butler are the only two players Thibs trusts and maybe Captain Kirk.  Thibs just earned Jimmy a big contract last night.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 17, 2014, 07:10:17 PM
Maybe I am misinterpreting what you are inferring, but if you think Wesley is better than DWade even now you are crazy.  DWade is not what he was, but is still far and away more skilled than Wes.  Not hating on Wes, just stating the facts.

Lax Brah,

Did you even read his post before typing such an idiotic response?
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MU82 on October 17, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
Very true, however, Budenholzer had some starters in there as well.  Thibs only put starters JFB, Noah and Gasol with six minutes to go...And the "scrubs" included Brand, Payne and starter Shroeder.  JFB scored 20 in 6.

To the point, Thibs let Jimmy take over at the end...ran plays for him, asked him to take over defensively. By my count, of the ten players for most of the 4th, JFB was the 8th highest paid.  Here is the understory:  Thibs, well known to hate Bulls management, was sending a message to the ownership and some certain star players. Fact is, Noah and Butler are the only two players Thibs trusts and maybe Captain Kirk.  Thibs just earned Jimmy a big contract last night.

I didn't know Thibs had such disdain for Bulls management, so I learned something here. I'm 4+ removed from living in Chicago, so I don't follow the teams there nearly as closely as I once did. Makes me like Thibs more!
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 17, 2014, 08:33:01 PM
I didn't know Thibs had such disdain for Bulls management, so I learned something here. I'm 4+ removed from living in Chicago, so I don't follow the teams there nearly as closely as I once did. Makes me like Thibs more!

Yep...Gar and John like to overmanage their coach.  Jimmy has a window till the end of October to resign or he is a FA.  Thibs taking care not of JFB...while tweeking Rose and the brain trust.  He has talked up Jimmy in every presser while downplaying Derek.  Master motivator and mind fooker.  Us vs. Them
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 17, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/relationship-between-coach-tom-thibodeau-and-gm-gar-forman-reportedly-toxic/

Gar vs. Thibs..a bit old as Jerry settled them down but a lot going on under the surface still.  Derek is a mess, IMO.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MU82 on October 17, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
Thibs vs. Gar/Pax has potential for great theater but it's hard to imagine it ever being as much fun as fun as Phil vs. Crumbs.

The last couple years he was in Chicago, Jackson used to publicly rip Krause at every opportunity.

And let's not forget that Pax, whom I used to consider a good guy, did rough up Vinny once.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 18, 2014, 04:25:15 PM
As a player, d wade. Hands down.

As a person, Wes. Not that d wade isn't a good person, I just love Wes. High quality human being.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Bricky on October 19, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
Buncha FIBs in here.

Lotsa friendly Illinois brethren.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: hepennypacker5000 on October 19, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
JFB hands down. Ever since I saw him leaving Humphrey to go skateboarding in purple skinny jeans, I was all like "this dude is going places."
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 20, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
As a player, d wade. Hands down.

As a person, Wes. Not that d wade isn't a good person, I just love Wes. High quality human being.

This.

Wes kept it real.

Jimmy would be a really close second cuz keepin' it real means singing Miley Cyrus when the video crew is on and not caring what others think.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: buckchuckler on October 20, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
Gotta love coming to conclusions based on one NBA preseason game!  Chicago sports fans, baby.

Yeah.  Stupid FIBs.  I mean, really smart wisconsin people would never make sweeping conclusions based off preseason games, or even worse, an intrasquad scrimmage. 
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: wadesworld on October 20, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
Yeah.  Stupid FIBs.  I mean, really smart wisconsin people would never make sweeping conclusions based off preseason games, or even worse, an intrasquad scrimmage. 

I'm guessing it's the FIBs who are doing that.  On top of that I have not heard any Marquette fans saying we have someone as good as Wade (the MJ of MU).
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: kryza on October 20, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
Anyone that didn't vote for Dwade is wrong. He single handy put Marquette back on the map.

If we could separate the two somehow, I'd even say that Dwade > Final Four
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on October 21, 2014, 09:17:59 AM
It has to be D-Wade
like him or hate him (mostly bulls fans)  D-Wade is going to be an OTHOF.  In this day and age this is extremely rare.  Currently, Kobe, and Dirk are the only other OTHOFs I can think of.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: CTWarrior on October 21, 2014, 09:25:47 AM
Anyone that didn't vote for Dwade is wrong. He single handy put Marquette back on the map.

If we could separate the two somehow, I'd even say that Dwade > Final Four

So, if my favorite MU player in the NBA isn't Wade, I'm wrong?  I voted for Crowder.  I have no illusions that he is the best player to come out of Marquette, I just really liked the way he played while at MU and am impressed that a 6'4" guy with PF skills and not tremendous bulk even has a job in the NBA, so he's my favorite. 

If the question is who was the most influential Marquette player in the NBA, then you would be wrong if you didn't pick Wade.  But anyone can be your personal favorite.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 21, 2014, 09:31:43 AM
So, if my favorite MU player in the NBA isn't Wade, I'm wrong?  I voted for Crowder.  I have no illusions that he is the best player to come out of Marquette, I just really liked the way he played while at MU and am impressed that a 6'4" guy with PF skills and not tremendous bulk even has a job in the NBA, so he's my favorite. 

If the question is who was the most influential Marquette player in the NBA, then you would be wrong if you didn't pick Wade.  But anyone can be your personal favorite.

+1
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on October 21, 2014, 09:41:03 AM
It has to be D-Wade
like him or hate him (mostly bulls fans)  D-Wade is going to be an OTHOF.  In this day and age this is extremely rare.  Currently, Kobe, and Dirk are the only other OTHOFs I can think of.
Tim Duncan.
Staying with one team is some strange criteria. Was John Stockton somehow better than Karl Malone? Were the careers of Patrick Ewing and Hakeem devalued because they didn't stay where they were drafted? Is Reggie Miller better than Kareem
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 21, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Eh, not worth it.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Goose on October 21, 2014, 10:11:50 AM
Wade and simply because his talent level was something never seen before at MU. Watching him play at MU and for Heat, especially early in his career, was something to see. Remember watching SportsCenter and he was top ten play of the day almost daily for the Heat. Best part was many of those plays were on D side of the ball or unreal pass.

Am a big Wes fan and JFB is hard not to cheer for. Truthfully, it is hard to cheer against any of them.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: 🏀 on October 21, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
I watch and enjoy Wes, Jimmy and Novak more than Wade.

I just expect Wade to be good, and he is. Watching those three try to get better is more fun.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on October 21, 2014, 11:58:56 AM
Tim Duncan.
Staying with one team is some strange criteria. Was John Stockton somehow better than Karl Malone? Were the careers of Patrick Ewing and Hakeem devalued because they didn't stay where they were drafted? Is Reggie Miller better than Kareem

No it does not a make one better, it is just a unique thing that does not happen in this day in age

I think moving to a better job is great, but their is something to be said about loyalty
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 21, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
Wade and simply because his talent level was something never seen before at MU. Watching him play at MU and for Heat, especially early in his career, was something to see. Remember watching SportsCenter and he was top ten play of the day almost daily for the Heat. Best part was many of those plays were on D side of the ball or unreal pass.

Am a big Wes fan and JFB is hard not to cheer for. Truthfully, it is hard to cheer against any of them.

I concur.  Plus, Wade ultimately does more for MU than any of the other guys.  He has won 3 rings, is a sure fire Hall of Famer, which means he will be relevant to the "everyday basketball" fan for decades to come.  Love Wes, but he won't have that impact outside of a smaller geographic area.  He'll be remembered like most players in towns where they remember the guy fondly as a nice player, good dude, but not as a national level player.  Wade got to a point where people took sides with him, mostly because he played with LeBron, but he was talked about all the time and the halo effect for MU is always a good thing.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 21, 2014, 08:13:04 PM
Do all NBA teams announce the college the starting players are from or just Chicago? Cause it's pretty cool that people on Miami and Portland are gonna look up MU after hearing Wade or Wes's names... I think it's fair to say that the majority of Chicago has a rough idea about marquette when it's announced for jimmy.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: MuMark on October 22, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
Annual GM survey with MU mentions…….Jimmy and Wes both get votes in the “best role player” category…….
http://www.nba.com/news/features/john_schuhmann/nba-com-2014-15-gm-survey/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3a
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: drewm88 on October 22, 2014, 12:03:15 PM
Annual GM survey with MU mentions…….Jimmy and Wes both get votes in the “best role player” category…….
http://www.nba.com/news/features/john_schuhmann/nba-com-2014-15-gm-survey/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3a

Jimmy also received votes for best perimeter defender.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 22, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
Jimmy also received votes for best perimeter defender.

Tied for 4th in the "best perimeter defender" category. Way to go, JFB.
Title: Re: Favorite MU player currently in the NBA
Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2014, 01:14:16 PM
Tied for 4th in the "best perimeter defender" category. Way to go, JFB.

All thanks to Crean, aina?