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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: JakeBarnes on September 29, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
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The place to post any updates about how the visit went, including but not limited to photos, twitter feeds, articles and/or reports.
I don't really care who derailed whatever thread, so don't come in and point fingers. This is strictly for information and related conjecture. The onky dalliance i will allow are those debating whether or not he was spotted wearing Sperrys.
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The place to post any updates about how the visit went, including but not limited to photos, twitter feeds, articles and/or reports.
I don't really care who derailed whatever thread, so don't come in and point fingers. This is strictly for information and related conjecture. The onky dalliance i will allow are those debating whether or not he was spotted wearing Sperrys.
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Twitterwatch2k14: no new updates. He hasn't said his visit went well like he did about Michigan St. Are we doomed forever?
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You son of a...
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he was spotted
Was he sick?
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One of the great Call Signs was a Viper Driver with the last name Poynter. Call Sign, "Fynger"
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Keefe
Good to see you back. Great dinner at Vabene a couple of weeks and we saluted you over cocktails.
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Keefe
Good to see you back. Great dinner at Vabene a couple of weeks and we saluted you over cocktails.
Cheers, Joe. After dinner Grappas?
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Jake, did this go about how you expected?
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LOL...I actually did Grappa in your honor
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Jake, did this go about how you expected?
Pretty much. But lacking the 1-2 posts of actual information
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(Thank you for this, but my guess is by the end of page 2 we'll hear about someone's wife)
A couple of things from my perspective:
First and foremost I think we sit in a VERY favorable spot for Henry (not that this is news but I'm optimistic).
One thing that no one has really mentioned is that our coaching staff has literally seen no one else in the Class of 2015 besides Cheatham and Henry. If you look around and hear about coaching staffs making visit after visit and starting to get in touch with random guys out of the blue, to me that's kinda red flag. Take Creighton for example (born and raised in Omaha so still keep up with their stuff, but rest assured, have 100% switched allegiances to MU). They were/are in on fantastic top recruits like Matt McQuaid/Chris Clarke, but even after hosting them both to on-campus visits, they went out and saw other SGs/PG like Jalen Poyser, Noah Blackwell, and Marlon Stewart (the latter of whom they signed after he quickly visited) and have now offered Isaiah Roby, a SF from IL. McQuaid committed to MSU and Clarke seems to have schools like UCONN and VT in the lead.
Now I understand Creighton currently has more scholarships to fill than us, but the fact that the coaching staff went out and immediately visited and offered guys who play similar positions as a couple of their stud possibilities looks to me like they aren't as confident in their chances. Feel free to challenge that, I'm more than open to hearing the other side. But our staff had 2 goals: Haanif and Henry. Once Haanif committed it was all-in on Henry and he is the only recruit they've gone after. No Davon Dillard, no one else from all I've read. He was the very first guy Wojo saw in the contact period and that's it. So the staff, I would think, also feels they sit in a great spot for Henry's services (and after talking to my manager buddy, that seems to be correct) since they aren't going out and contacting a number of other recruits. Also, you're dealing with guys who have been told their whole life how awesome they are at bball. That they're the best ones in the gym. So I think it does mean something when Henry knows he's option A, B, C, and D here at Marquette to Wojo. Whereas at UK he's much further down the list of priority and at MSU he's behind Caleb Swanigan since they already have Deyonta Davis. To me, that has always been a great source of optimism.
Second, and this feels goofy to even have to say, but the fact that Henry didn't immediately come out and say "Had a great visit to Marquette this weekend" on Sunday night is GREAT news to me. If he were to tweet something basic like that, it'd look like he walked away from his time at MU feeling the same as he did at MSU, and I'd hope that with the Wally connection, Nick, Duane connections, great relationship with Wojo, getting his sister involved with stuff like the ice cream truck, getting to play not only with the team but also with guys like Jabari and Novak, that that wouldn't be the case. He may come out and say something similar in the coming days so not to tip his hand, but from where I sit, I feel great about our chances. But when going up against stellar programs nothing is a given.
End of rant.
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(Thank you for this, but my guess is by the end of page 2 we'll hear about someone's wife)
A couple of things from my perspective:
First and foremost I think we sit in a VERY favorable spot for Henry (not that this is news but I'm optimistic).
One thing that no one has really mentioned is that our coaching staff has literally seen no one else in the Class of 2015 besides Cheatham and Henry. If you look around and hear about coaching staffs making visit after visit and starting to get in touch with random guys out of the blue, to me that's kinda red flag. Take Creighton for example (born and raised in Omaha so still keep up with their stuff, but rest assured, have 100% switched allegiances to MU). They were/are in on fantastic top recruits like Matt McQuaid/Chris Clarke, but even after hosting them both to on-campus visits, they went out and saw other SGs/PG like Jalen Poyser, Noah Blackwell, and Marlon Stewart (the latter of whom they signed after he quickly visited). McQuaid committed to MSU and Clarke seems to have schools like UCONN and VT in the lead.
Now I understand Creighton currently has more scholarships to fill than us, Clarke plays SF, but the fact that the coaching staff went out and immediately visited guys who play similar positions as a couple of their stud possibilities looks to me like they aren't as confident in their chances. Feel free to challenge that, I'm more than open to hearing the other side. But our staff had 2 goals: Haanif and Henry. Once Haanif committed it was all-in on Henry and he is the only recruit they've gone after. No Davon Dillard, no one else from all I've read. He was the very first guy Wojo saw in the contact period and that's it. So the staff, I would think, also feels they sit in a great spot for Henry's services (and after talking to my manager buddy, that seems to be correct) since they aren't going out and contacting a number of other recruits. To me, that has always been a great source of optimism.
Second, and this feels goofy to even have to say, but the fact that Henry didn't immediately come out and say "Had a great visit to Marquette this weekend" on Sunday night is GREAT news to me. If he were to tweet something basic like that, it'd look like he walked away from his time at MU feeling the same as he did at MSU, and I'd hope that with the Wally connection, Nick, Duane connections, great relationship with Wojo, getting his sister involved with stuff like the ice cream truck, getting to play not only with the team but also with guys like Jabari and Novak, that that wouldn't be the case. He may come out and say something similar in the coming days so not to tip his hand, but from where I sit, I feel great about our chances. But when going up against stellar programs nothing is a given.
End of rant.
Well said, I think the other thing we need to keep in mind is even though we've been conditioned by social media and just regular media, there is no timeline for a "response". Ellenson might tweet something or he might not, neither scenario probably indicates how he felt. I am more inclined to think some news will leak from campus. With Wally on campus and in classes as well as the student body being bigger gossips than Blake Lively, I'd think we'd hear something from them before anything else.
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There was a Tweet about both Jabari Parker and Steve Novak being at the Al over the weekend. And DuWil tweeted about seeing "The equalizer" with a bunch of the team, Henry and Nick N.
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There was a Tweet about both Jabari Parker and Steve Novak being at the Al over the weekend. And DuWil tweeted about seeing "The equalizer" with a bunch of the team, Henry and Nick N.
If anyone can recruit, it's Denzel.
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If anyone can recruit, it's Denzel.
King Kong ain't got s$%t on Wojo!!
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(Thank you for this, but my guess is by the end of page 2 we'll hear about someone's wife)
A couple of things from my perspective:
*snip*
End of rant.
Agree with what you got here, except.
I would guess that there are conversations between MU and other players. Just keeping it quiet and not cycling players out ever weekend. If this is the case, then they are doing a really good job of it.
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I still feel really good about our chances. If he can make it past Oct. 18 without a commit to UK, I think he is ours.
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"getting his sister involved in stuff like the ice cream truck..." ? sorry if i missed something, but that sounds kinda nasty. i always tried to keep my kids away from that as ya never know who's behind the wheel. :o
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"getting his sister involved in stuff like the ice cream truck..." ? sorry if i missed something, but that sounds kinda nasty. i always tried to keep my kids away from that as ya never know who's behind the wheel. :o
I saw a documentary on ice cream trucks and these guys don't have time to use the latrine so they keep a bucket inside their vehicle.
How you say, Lemon Dreamsicle?
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I saw a documentary on ice cream trucks and these guys don't have time to use the latrine so they keep a bucket inside their vehicle.
How you say, Lemon Dreamsicle?
That's some hard hittin' stuff right there. Let me guess Bravo at 3:00 a.m.?
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That's some hard hittin' stuff right there. Let me guess Bravo at 3:00 a.m.?
Actually, it was a local news piece. If they didn't get a Pulitzer for that then I don't know what should. Funnily enough, it was a source of humor in our hangar the next day.
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Actually, it was a local news piece. If they didn't get a Pulitzer for that then I don't know what should. Funnily enough, it was a source of humor in our hangar the next day.
Good Humor?
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want a popsicle??
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Actually, it was a local news piece. If they didn't get a Pulitzer for that then I don't know what should. Funnily enough, it was a source of humor in our hangar the next day.
Ah, now that makes sense.
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I saw a documentary on ice cream trucks and these guys don't have time to use the latrine so they keep a bucket inside their vehicle.
How you say, Lemon Dreamsicle?
About about a fudgesicle?
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Hope we can land Ellenson.... Talked to a player on the team and they said he is the real deal "One and done real deal"
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Hope we can land Ellenson.... Talked to a player on the team and they said he is the real deal "One and done real deal"
A little mock draft tidbits, Sam Decker 11th pick and Frank Kaminsky 23rd pick in 2015, and in 2016 Kevon Looney 18th pick and Ellenson going 9th so there is some credence to
him being at MU for only one year. If that is the case, he would have a better chance at MU, as playing time would be easier to get then Kentucky or even MSU.
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A little mock draft tidbits, Sam Decker 11th pick and Frank Kaminsky 23rd pick in 2015, and in 2016 Kevon Looney 18th pick and Ellenson going 9th so there is some credence to
him being at MU for only one year. If that is the case, he would have a better chance at MU, as playing time would be easier to get then Kentucky or even MSU.
I don't know about easier, but there is the question of who his teammates are....at Kentucky that could change before he gets there....should be relatively stable at MU. He should know who'll be feeding him in the post at MU. He's going to get playing time wherever he goes.
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Well said, I think the other thing we need to keep in mind is even though we've been conditioned by social media and just regular media, there is no timeline for a "response". Ellenson might tweet something or he might not, neither scenario probably indicates how he felt. I am more inclined to think some news will leak from campus. With Wally on campus and in classes as well as the student body being bigger gossips than Blake Lively, I'd think we'd hear something from them before anything else.
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Wojo's philosophy for only going after the one stud, in this case Henry, seems OK, but the downside with that would be if he decides to go elsewhere, then we are likely too far behind to land another at that position. I guess that just proves how iffy the whole recruiting process is. Sure hope we land him.
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Wojo's philosophy for only going after the one stud, in this case Henry, seems OK, but the downside with that would be if he decides to go elsewhere, then we are likely too far behind to land another at that position. I guess that just proves how iffy the whole recruiting process is. Sure hope we land him.
I agree with your premise, but I don't know that this will be his "forever" policy. I think this is a case of a once in a lifetime opportunity to land a top 5 kid, at a position of need, with a bunch of other talent around. The risk reward is that you get Ellenson you are a top 10 team immediately. If you don't get Ellenson, you have enough talent that you are likely a top 25 team and you have a scholarship for the following year. Plus I have to think Wojo feels strongly that he can get him.
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Hope we can land Ellenson.... Talked to a player on the team and they said he is the real deal "One and done real deal"
I'm optimistic about our chances with Henry, but if he is in fact a 'one and done' talent and his intentions are to enter the draft after his freshman year, I can't help but worry that Calipari & Kentucky may have a more attractive blueprint.
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I'm optimistic about our chances with Henry, but if he is in fact a 'one and done' talent and his intentions are to enter the draft after his freshman year, I can't help but worry that Calipari & Kentucky may have a more attractive blueprint.
The more and more I think about Kentucky's roster, the less and less I think Henry will end up there. They have a probable starting lineup of:
An Harrison
Aa Harrison
Poythress
Cauley-Stein
Towns Jr.
That leaves 3 of their top 20 freshmen coming off the bench. Not to mention all the top 20 sophomores who were bench players last season. Maybe some of them will try to make the jump without starting, but I don't think many will. Of the starting 5, I only think the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will be ready to go pro. I think Cauley-Stein and Poytress will be rare 4 year Wildcats. Throw in the top rated recruiting class that Kentucky is projected to pull in in 2015....Henry's situation would be very crowded.
If Henry is truly a one and done talent (big assumption...along with the other big assumptions I made in the previous paragraph ;D) I think Marquette is the better situation for him.
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While I doubt Henry will be in college for 4 years, I also wonder what his motivation would be to be a "one and done" player. There doesn't appear to be an economic reason for him to go into the NBA after one year, and he's said many times he wants to increase his skill set as much as possible. I think it would come down to where he feels he'll get the best skill development.
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I'm optimistic about our chances with Henry, but if he is in fact a 'one and done' talent and his intentions are to enter the draft after his freshman year, I can't help but worry that Calipari & Kentucky may have a more attractive blueprint.
It depends what you mean by more attractive. I think UK and Calipari get too much credit for the NBA success of their players. They turned UK into the kind of place where top talent is attracted by other means, then that top talent (on average) performed as expected and went on to the NBA, then they claimed that they turned those guys into NBA players. In other words, the value add for Kentucky is not necessarily improved NBA prospects over another high-level basketball school but a certain kind of pro experience for guys who aren't interested in the college experience. If you go to MU (and many other high-level programs at quality universities), you'll still have the opportunity to play high-level basketball and move on to the next level, and you'll also get one year of actual college, with learning, student interaction, dorms, cura personalis, all that. For some players, the UK version is preferred, but I suspect for others the actual college experience is actually more attractive.
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The more and more I think about Kentucky's roster, the less and less I think Henry will end up there. They have a probable starting lineup of:
An Harrison
Aa Harrison
Poythress
Cauley-Stein
Towns Jr.
That leaves 3 of their top 20 freshmen coming off the bench. Not to mention all the top 20 sophomores who were bench players last season. Maybe some of them will try to make the jump without starting, but I don't think many will. Of the starting 5, I only think the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will be ready to go pro. I think Cauley-Stein and Poytress will be rare 4 year Wildcats. Throw in the top rated recruiting class that Kentucky is projected to pull in in 2015....Henry's situation would be very crowded.
If Henry is truly a one and done talent (big assumption...along with the other big assumptions I made in the previous paragraph ;D) I think Marquette is the better situation for him.
So you really think no one leaves early? The Harrison brothers will be staying for their junior year?
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Visit went well, not likely to be at MM on the 10th, it is Homecoming/ Fall Formal at RL HS that weekend. It was always the plan for HE to visit MSU, MU and KU so do not worry that he is going there. (I posted this some weeks ago, saying why would you not take the opportunity to do that). HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
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Visit went well, not likely to be at MM on the 10th, it is Homecoming/ Fall Formal at RL HS that weekend. It was always the plan for HE to visit MSU, MU and KU so do not worry that he is going there. (I posted this some weeks ago, saying why would you not take the opportunity to do that). HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
As much saltiness there is attached to the end of the post (that hurt, sir)...this is the reason I wanted to have this thread. Keepin the faith on this one, Big Daddy. Thanks for the heads up.
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Visit went well, not likely to be at MM on the 10th, it is Homecoming/ Fall Formal at RL HS that weekend. It was always the plan for HE to visit MSU, MU and KU so do not worry that he is going there. (I posted this some weeks ago, saying why would you not take the opportunity to do that). HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
Love me some Cutty but that is a high level of confidence. Thanks BD.
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So you really think no one leaves early? The Harrison brothers will be staying for their junior year?
That's not what I said. I said the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will go pro. Everyone else I think stays. Unless someone else has a breakout performance
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Heard they didn't have rocky road, so he had to settle for chocolate chip. Doesn't bode well for our chances.
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It depends what you mean by more attractive. I think UK and Calipari get too much credit for the NBA success of their players. They turned UK into the kind of place where top talent is attracted by other means, then that top talent (on average) performed as expected and went on to the NBA, then they claimed that they turned those guys into NBA players. In other words, the value add for Kentucky is not necessarily improved NBA prospects over another high-level basketball school but a certain kind of pro experience for guys who aren't interested in the college experience. If you go to MU (and many other high-level programs at quality universities), you'll still have the opportunity to play high-level basketball and move on to the next level, and you'll also get one year of actual college, with learning, student interaction, dorms, cura personalis, all that. For some players, the UK version is preferred, but I suspect for others the actual college experience is actually more attractive.
Agreed, UK just provides a pleasant environment for the top-rated players to hang out for a year while they wait for the NBA. That's nice for some players, but for Ellenson, it might be more desirable to play with his brother where their family can more easily attend games.
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That's not what I said. I said the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will go pro. Everyone else I think stays. Unless someone else has a breakout performance
I think Cauley-Stein goes as well. Probably would have last year without the injury.
Would also like to hear from Freeport or JayBee regarding one-and-done. I think HE is more likely to be here 2-3 years than just one.
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Visit went well, not likely to be at MM on the 10th, it is Homecoming/ Fall Formal at RL HS that weekend. It was always the plan for HE to visit MSU, MU and KU so do not worry that he is going there. (I posted this some weeks ago, saying why would you not take the opportunity to do that). HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
I am sure that there will be a couple guys? from Scoop that will be at the RL Fall Formal to report on what Henry is up to. And there will be a couple more guys? monitoring the tweets to see what is going on. I...personally will be programming Keefe's spydrone to be there to report back.
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Visit went well, not likely to be at MM on the 10th, it is Homecoming/ Fall Formal at RL HS that weekend. It was always the plan for HE to visit MSU, MU and KU so do not worry that he is going there. (I posted this some weeks ago, saying why would you not take the opportunity to do that). HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
I have never been more sure of anything in my life than I now am that HE is coming to Marquette. Thank you.
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HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
100% stone cold lock then? Nice!!
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I think Cauley-Stein goes as well. Probably would have last year without the injury.
He certainly has the talent and the body. I just think Towns Jr. will take points and rebounds away from WCS. Also, if WCS starts, it will be at the four which is out of position for him.
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HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
That's a statement even more confident than Done Deal!
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That's not what I said. I said the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will go pro. Everyone else I think stays. Unless someone else has a breakout performance
I think folks are misreading your post (I did initially). I think you mean that the twins and Cauley-Stein will leave after the upcoming season, leaving last year's freshmen and this year's incoming class fighting for those spots. I initially read it that they would leave a year later.
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Agree with what you got here, except.
I would guess that there are conversations between MU and other players. Just keeping it quiet and not cycling players out ever weekend. If this is the case, then they are doing a really good job of it.
Then it's time to send in the bloodhound, Mike Hunt.
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Hope we can land Ellenson.... Talked to a player on the team and they said he is the real deal "One and done real deal"
Thanks for the info from the inside. Good to see you posting again Nevada!
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The more and more I think about Kentucky's roster, the less and less I think Henry will end up there. They have a probable starting lineup of:
An Harrison
Aa Harrison
Poythress
Cauley-Stein
Towns Jr.
That leaves 3 of their top 20 freshmen coming off the bench. Not to mention all the top 20 sophomores who were bench players last season. Maybe some of them will try to make the jump without starting, but I don't think many will. Of the starting 5, I only think the Harrison twins and Towns Jr. will be ready to go pro. I think Cauley-Stein and Poytress will be rare 4 year Wildcats. Throw in the top rated recruiting class that Kentucky is projected to pull in in 2015....Henry's situation would be very crowded.
If Henry is truly a one and done talent (big assumption...along with the other big assumptions I made in the previous paragraph ;D) I think Marquette is the better situation for him.
As I said on another thread, elite talents don't necessarily think this way. If Henry believes in himself as much as others apparently do, he thinks he will be good enough to start wherever he goes, no matter who already is there. One could argue that if Henry is concerned about the in-house competition at Kentucky, he's not as great as everybody says.
It's not stretching it to say he could be convinced that his best path for 1-and-done (or even 2-and-done) is to practice against similarly outstanding talent every single day. We might like our potential roster at Marquette, but I think most of us would agree that Kentucky almost surely will have more elite, tall, athletic competition on the practice court.
Throw in the fact that Calipari obviously runs a 1-and-done factory - no coach in America can claim to put more players in the NBA after less time in college - and there are plenty of reasons Henry could choose Kentucky over Marquette if 1-and-doneness is an overriding factor.
Notice I said "could." Kentucky doesn't have his brother. Nor does Kentucky have his best friend (apparently Noskowiak). Nor does Kentucky have his mom and dad a relatively short car ride away. Those should be very significant advantages for MU-rah-rah, as no other school can provide them. Not even Kentucky.
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As I said on another thread, elite talents don't necessarily think this way. If Henry believes in himself as much as others apparently do, he thinks he will be good enough to start wherever he goes, no matter who already is there. One could argue that if Henry is concerned about the in-house competition at Kentucky, he's not as great as everybody says.
It's not stretching it to say he could be convinced that his best path for 1-and-done (or even 2-and-done) is to practice against similarly outstanding talent every single day. We might like our potential roster at Marquette, but I think most of us would agree that Kentucky almost surely will have more elite, tall, athletic competition on the practice court.
Throw in the fact that Calipari obviously runs a 1-and-done factory - no coach in America can claim to put more players in the NBA after less time in college - and there is plenty of reasons Henry could choose Kentucky over Marquette if 1-and-doneness is an overriding factor.
Notice I said "could." Kentucky doesn't have his brother. Nor does Kentucky have his best friend (apparently Noskowiak). Nor does Kentucky have his mom and dad a relatively short car ride away. Those should be very significant advantages for MU-rah-rah, as no other school can provide them. Not even Kentucky.
I believe HE said he would like to play with NN, not that he is my BFF.
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From Kentucky "insider":
"Coach Calipari is involved with a number of 4’s and 5’s in the 2015 class, including Power Forward Carlton Bragg who is considered to be leaning towards UK. I don’t see Ellenson committing to Kentucky if Bragg is coming, so that remains the biggest obstacle in place. No matter what Bragg does, I think Marquette still is the favorite to land Ellenson, but if Big Blue Madness really “wows” him and he decides to commit soon, I think the Wildcats have put themselves in a position to possibly steal this one."
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HE is more likely to be a Warrior than Jay Cutler throwing an interception when playing the Packers.
Wow - Pretty d#mn bullish! :)
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I believe HE said he would like to play with NN, not that he is my BFF.
OK. That doesn't change the point of my statement.
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From Kentucky "insider":
"Coach Calipari is involved with a number of 4’s and 5’s in the 2015 class, including Power Forward Carlton Bragg who is considered to be leaning towards UK. I don’t see Ellenson committing to Kentucky if Bragg is coming, so that remains the biggest obstacle in place. No matter what Bragg does, I think Marquette still is the favorite to land Ellenson, but if Big Blue Madness really “wows” him and he decides to commit soon, I think the Wildcats have put themselves in a position to possibly steal this one."
It really depends on what position he sees himself playing. A lot of posters here seem to think he is a 4-5, but I believe he sees himself as a three or maybe even a two. He wants the ability to room the court and pass the ball. That definitely does not sound like a five and it does not sound like a four either.
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From Kentucky "insider":
"I think Marquette still is the favorite to land Ellenson, but if Big Blue Madness really “wows” him and he decides to commit soon, I think the Wildcats have put themselves in a position to possibly steal this one."
He's not wrong about this.
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I appreciate everyones insight and opinions on King Henry. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks about this a lot.
I think I'm just super optimistic, and am thinking he commits to us around madness and skips his UK Visit! Happy Tuesday! :)
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I appreciate everyones insight and opinions on King Henry. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks about this a lot.
I think I'm just super optimistic, and am thinking he commits to us around madness and skips his UK Visit! Happy Tuesday! :)
Hope you're not holding your breath on this.
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Hope you're not holding your breath on this.
Yeah I'm thinking there's gonna be a whole hat ceremony type thing, the whole nine yards. If I had to guess, it'll happen shortly before the early signing period.
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From Kentucky "insider":
"Coach Calipari is involved with a number of 4’s and 5’s in the 2015 class, including Power Forward Carlton Bragg who is considered to be leaning towards UK. I don’t see Ellenson committing to Kentucky if Bragg is coming, so that remains the biggest obstacle in place. No matter what Bragg does, I think Marquette still is the favorite to land Ellenson, but if Big Blue Madness really “wows” him and he decides to commit soon, I think the Wildcats have put themselves in a position to possibly steal this one."
Here's the whole article: http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/update-on-henry-ellenson-where-uk-stands/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Update on Henry Ellenson; Where UK Stands
By BrandonRamsey on ©6:40 pm Posted in BB Recruiting, Main | 4 Responses
HenryEllenson
When Coach Calipari extended a scholarship offer to Henry Ellenson back on July 13th I think many in Big Blue Nation had the same reaction as I did, “who?” For whatever reason, the 6’10’’, 230 pound Power Forward, was a relative unknown to me and I was surprised to learn that he was ranked as the #10 overall player in the 247 Composite Rankings. However, after watching his highlight video I quickly realized how good he was and also how badly I wanted UK to get him.
The Wisconsin native has long been considered a heavy Marquette lean. His brother, Wally, will be a junior for the Golden Eagles and Marquette is obviously close to home as well. In the middle of August though, when Ellenson cut his list to just three schools, Kentucky was included along with Marquette and Michigan State. Henry already took his official visits to Michigan State and Marquette, and he will be in Lexington for Big Blue Madness on October 17th.
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Marquette hosted Henry this past weekend and former Duke Assistant Coach Steve Wojciechowski pulled out all the stops for the talented big man. Milwaukee Bucks rookie and former Blue Devil Jabari Parker and former Marquette star Steve Novak happened to be on campus to see the prized hometown recruit. However, we know that no matter what Wojo and the Golden Eagles did for Ellenson, it will not compare to his experience at Big Blue Madness. Personally, I always like having the final visit with a recruit and hopefully a huge event like BBM leaves enough of an impression to land his services.
Coach Calipari is involved with a number of 4’s and 5’s in the 2015 class, including Power Forward Carlton Bragg who is considered to be leaning towards UK. I don’t see Ellenson committing to Kentucky if Bragg is coming, so that remains the biggest obstacle in place. No matter what Bragg does, I think Marquette still is the favorite to land Ellenson, but if Big Blue Madness really “wows” him and he decides to commit soon, I think the Wildcats have put themselves in a position to possibly steal this one.
Gotta love that UK arrogance....but he's right. Big Blue Madness is unlike anything else in the college basketball world.
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As I said on another thread, elite talents don't necessarily think this way. If Henry believes in himself as much as others apparently do, he thinks he will be good enough to start wherever he goes, no matter who already is there. One could argue that if Henry is concerned about the in-house competition at Kentucky, he's not as great as everybody says.
Oh I agree with that. I would say most recruits would think they could dominate everyone. I hope that Ellenson's experience being a bench player for Team USA would humble him a little bit and help him understand that while he may be great, the Malik Newmans and Jaylen Browns of the world are better.
But the point I was trying to make is that I'm not convinced that HE has a solid offer at Kentucky. With only 1 "open" schollie and Charles Matthews already in tow, UK is dependent on their current stars going pro in order to open up spots for the new recruits. Looking at their roster, I think only 3-5 go pro. Cal is on literally all of the top 15 players. I think he wants to wait til the late signing period to see who he can get. Do you sign a Henry Ellenson if you think you might need that spot for a Malik Newman, Carlton Bragg, or Skal Labissiere later? He already got "burned" by Charles Matthews, a former top 10 recruit who has now fallen to barely top 50.
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Oh I agree with that. I would say most recruits would think they could dominate everyone. I hope that Ellenson's experience being a bench player for Team USA would humble him a little bit and help him understand that while he may be great, the Malik Newmans and Jaylen Browns of the world are better.
But the point I was trying to make is that I'm not convinced that HE has a solid offer at Kentucky. With only 1 "open" schollie and Charles Matthews already in tow, UK is dependent on their current stars going pro in order to open up spots for the new recruits. Looking at their roster, I think only 3-5 go pro. Cal is on literally all of the top 15 players. I think he wants to wait til the late signing period to see who he can get. Do you sign a Henry Ellenson if you think you might need that spot for a Malik Newman, Carlton Bragg, or Skal Labissiere later? He already got "burned" by Charles Matthews, a former top 10 recruit who has now fallen to barely top 50.
He got burned by Charles Matthews? Oh right...I'm sure Calipari cares about what a bunch of "experts" think of a player he signed.
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Here's the whole article: http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/update-on-henry-ellenson-where-uk-stands/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Gotta love that UK arrogance....but he's right. Big Blue Madness is unlike anything else in the college basketball world.
I disagree. There's nothing like a MU game at the Bradley Center. Sneaking in as many beers as you can fit in your winter coat, going straight to the top row where it's encouraged to party, being able to purchase beers once you're out of Busch Light, reentry if you're a cig smoker, and of coarse 3rd street after the games.
Now that is an experience like no other...at least from what I've seen.
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Oh I agree with that. I would say most recruits would think they could dominate everyone. I hope that Ellenson's experience being a bench player for Team USA would humble him a little bit and help him understand that while he may be great, the Malik Newmans and Jaylen Browns of the world are better.
But the point I was trying to make is that I'm not convinced that HE has a solid offer at Kentucky. With only 1 "open" schollie and Charles Matthews already in tow, UK is dependent on their current stars going pro in order to open up spots for the new recruits. Looking at their roster, I think only 3-5 go pro. Cal is on literally all of the top 15 players. I think he wants to wait til the late signing period to see who he can get. Do you sign a Henry Ellenson if you think you might need that spot for a Malik Newman, Carlton Bragg, or Skal Labissiere later? He already got "burned" by Charles Matthews, a former top 10 recruit who has now fallen to barely top 50.
Great points, TAMU.
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Here's the whole article: http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/update-on-henry-ellenson-where-uk-stands/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Gotta love that UK arrogance....but he's right. Big Blue Madness is unlike anything else in the college basketball world.
Yup. Kentucky fan BB arrogance is only surpassed by the No Dick ND overall fan arrogance. Now that would be a poll. Most arrogant: Ky. BB fans or ND fans? My money would be on ND.
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Yup. Kentucky fan BB arrogance is only surpassed by the No Dick ND overall fan arrogance. Now that would be a poll. Most arrogant: Ky. BB fans or ND fans? My money would be on ND.
Yep. I loved being in Lexington in '94 when we beat them to go to the S16. By 12 points!!!!
ND, hands down. There is no god in Lexington, and ND is God's team.
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Wojo's philosophy for only going after the one stud, in this case Henry, seems OK, but the downside with that would be if he decides to go elsewhere, then we are likely too far behind to land another at that position. I guess that just proves how iffy the whole recruiting process is. Sure hope we land him.
Glad to see you acknowledging that the recruiting process is "iffy".
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Agreed, UK just provides a pleasant environment for the top-rated players to hang out for a year while they wait for the NBA. That's nice for some players, but for Ellenson, it might be more desirable to play with his brother where their family can more easily attend games.
And don't forget Kentucky provides top pay, as well.
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He got burned by Charles Matthews? Oh right...I'm sure Calipari cares about what a bunch of "experts" think of a player he signed.
That's why I put "burned" in quotation marks. Any coach should be ecstatic to have a player like Charles Matthews. I have no idea what Cal thinks of him. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him Calipart with Matthews if it meant getting a player like Jaylen Brown instead.
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That's why I put "burned" in quotation marks. Any coach should be ecstatic to have a player like Charles Matthews. I have no idea what Cal thinks of him. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him Calipart with Matthews if it meant getting a player like Jaylen Brown instead.
We were in Matthews top 3 correct? If he did get Calicut I would like to see us put out hat back in the ring.
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He isn't going to get "Calicut." Coach Cal doesn't issue offers to whoever might be interested in UK and see what happens. He offers people he wants. He's going to land a large majority of them. It's not like Marquette or Madison or whoever where you offer a lot of kids, some offers may be conditional, and you have fall back plans. If Cal offers you, comes to your house, gets you in for BBM, and takes your verbal commitment, he wants you. I don't know why people think that if Henry wanted to commit, there may be a chance he wouldn't. We're either going to beat out UK and Cal or we're not. It's not going to be because HE wasn't wanted at UK.
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He isn't going to get "Calicut." Coach Cal doesn't issue offers to whoever might be interested in UK and see what happens. He offers people he wants. He's going to land a large majority of them. It's not like Marquette or Madison or whoever where you offer a lot of kids, some offers may be conditional, and you have fall back plans. If Cal offers you, comes to your house, gets you in for BBM, and takes your verbal commitment, he wants you. I don't know why people think that if Henry wanted to commit, there may be a chance he wouldn't. We're either going to beat out UK and Cal or we're not. It's not going to be because HE wasn't wanted at UK.
If you think "Calicutting" has never happened, you are mistaken. Will it happen in this case? Probably not. But it has happened. And yes, if Cal takes your verbal he wants you at the time, but that's assuming he accepts the verbal. Cal intentionally waits on signing some kids so he can get a better idea of who's going pro and which recruits can he land.
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If you think "Calicutting" has never happened, you are mistaken. Will it happen in this case? Probably not. But it has happened. And yes, if Cal takes your verbal he wants you at the time, but that's assuming he accepts the verbal. Cal intentionally waits on signing some kids so he can get a better idea of who's going pro and which recruits can he land.
I agree with the waiting to see who is going pro, but Cal is a very smart, calculated guy. I think he has an idea of how many players he may be losing and how to find room for recruits he may want long, long before anybody realizes.
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I dont know why but I just have this feeling that there is going to be some sort of announcement at Marquette madness on the 11th. Maybe not a commitment but maybe at least an announcement date. I remember hearing somewhere that he wanted to give a verbal before the high school season starts, which is very soon.
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Cal prioritizes recruits just like every other coach........his backup plans are just much better then everybody elses.
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I dont know why but I just have this feeling that there is going to be some sort of announcement at Marquette madness on the 11th. Maybe not a commitment but maybe at least an announcement date.
That would be a big no-no at a University event.
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That would be a big no-no at a University event.
It would be a no-no to have a university-sanctioned press conference. If a half-dozen media surrounded Henry and he just said something, or if Henry himself called a press conference separate from the event in a different locale, there would be nothing against the rules.
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Henry could skype in right? Or we could have a giant stream from High School Cube showing the announcement if we already knew he'd be choosing us.
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Haha you guys are funny.
Henry is going to Big Blue Madness. We heard it from him, we heard it from Big Daddy, there's no reason for him not to go, enjoy himself, inform himself, and then make a decision. His decision will come shortly after he goes to Kentucky's Big Blue Madness. Even if he decides on Kentucky, I would bet against him announcing his decision while on his visit (which is why I don't think that if we don't hear about a commitment during his visit to UK that it necessarily means we have him locked up). His family is very familiar with the recruiting process. They understand it's easy to get caught up in the moment. They will take their time, visit each of the 3 finalists, and make a decision based on what is best for Henry and his family.
And heck, even if Henry were to decide he wanted to come to Marquette going into the weekend of Marquette Madness (again, I am 99.9% sure he won't), I would home Marquette University and the basketball program would be bigger than putting him up on a giant screen announcing that at Marquette Madness. Marquette is bigger than 1 high school senior.
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Haha you guys are funny.
Henry is going to Big Blue Madness. We heard it from him, we heard it from Big Daddy, there's no reason for him not to go, enjoy himself, inform himself, and then make a decision. His decision will come shortly after he goes to Kentucky's Big Blue Madness. Even if he decides on Kentucky, I would bet against him announcing his decision while on his visit (which is why I don't think that if we don't hear about a commitment during his visit to UK that it necessarily means we have him locked up). His family is very familiar with the recruiting process. They understand it's easy to get caught up in the moment. They will take their time, visit each of the 3 finalists, and make a decision based on what is best for Henry and his family.
And heck, even if Henry were to decide he wanted to come to Marquette going into the weekend of Marquette Madness (again, I am 99.9% sure he won't), I would home Marquette University and the basketball program would be bigger than putting him up on a giant screen announcing that at Marquette Madness. Marquette is bigger than 1 high school senior.
You forgot one vital piece on information though. It was said odds are he isnt going to Big Blue madness because Rice Lake homecoming is that weekend. Not saying he wont reschedule but he could be going down to Lexington sooner rather than later. In regards of putting him on a giant screen at MU madness, I have no problem with that and I dont think Marquette would either considering hes a top 10 recruit and number 4 in ESPN. Thats kind of a big deal, especially since you have kids already enrolled at MU recruiting him hard. Marquette may be bigger then him but a talent straight out of high school like him hasnt come around in a very long time.
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You have your dates mixed up. Someone mentioned he's not going to MU's Midnight Madness on Oct. 10th because the Rice Lake Homecoming is that weekend. The UK Big Blue Madness is the following weekend on Oct. 17th.
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You forgot one vital piece on information though. It was said odds are he isnt going to Big Blue madness because Rice Lake homecoming is that weekend. Not saying he wont reschedule but he could be going down to Lexington sooner rather than later. In regards of putting him on a giant screen at MU madness, I have no problem with that and I dont think Marquette would either considering hes a top 10 recruit and number 4 in ESPN. Thats kind of a big deal, especially since you have kids already enrolled at MU recruiting him hard. Marquette may be bigger then him but a talent straight out of high school like him hasnt come around in a very long time.
You don't seem to understand that Marquette would likely be committing a big recruiting violation if they set up a scenario where he announces at Marquette Madness.
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You have your dates mixed up. Someone mentioned he's not going to MU's Midnight Madness on Oct. 10th because the Rice Lake Homecoming is that weekend. The UK Big Blue Madness is the following weekend on Oct. 17th.
So you are saying that he won't have to choose between a high school dance and Big Blue Madness. I'm sure that's a relief!
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You have your dates mixed up. Someone mentioned he's not going to MU's Midnight Madness on Oct. 10th because the Rice Lake Homecoming is that weekend. The UK Big Blue Madness is the following weekend on Oct. 17th.
Ah ok, I expect a late October announcement then. Right before the start of the season.
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Ah ok, I expect a late October announcement then. Right before the start of the season.
Correct
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I remember hearing somewhere that he wanted to give a verbal before the high school season starts, which is very soon.
I asked when the basketball season started and was told early December. Not sure it's right, just thought I'd pass it along. Of course, that is probably when games start, not necessarily practices.
That being said, I have heard he will be an early signing period recruit. So the announcement will most likely be between October 19 and November 20. I assume it would be sooner rather than later.
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We were in Matthews top 3 correct? If he did get Calicut I would like to see us put out hat back in the ring.
Don't be greedy. We've moved on and got a commitment from Cheatham. There is one schollie left, and its being held for Henry Ellenson. There's been no indication to date that Wojo will either oversign or cut anyone, a la Buzz and Newbill.
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Forget UK madness, I got yer fancy fireworks display here.
(http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-firework-slow-motion-773202.gif)
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For those still hoping that Henry commits before Big Blue Madness...this probably kills it
https://twitter.com/SteveJones_CJ/status/517013112877510658
Steve Jones
@SteveJones_CJ
Henry Ellenson's dad confirmed he'll officially visit UK on Oct. 17 - date of Big Blue Madness
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For those still hoping that Henry commits before Big Blue Madness...this probably kills it
https://twitter.com/SteveJones_CJ/status/517013112877510658
Steve Jones
@SteveJones_CJ
Henry Ellenson's dad confirmed he'll officially visit UK on Oct. 17 - date of Big Blue Madness
Why do we think Ellenson's father knows anything? If my father knew half the sh1t I did in high school he would have hobbled me.
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Why do we think Ellenson's father knows anything? If my father knew half the sh1t I did in high school he would have hobbled me.
He should go. Great experience. Then come home.
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He should go. Great experience. Then come home.
Ky. basketball Madness=great experience=Ellenson having a great experience =Ky. Program is a great experience=done deal.
No!!!
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Willie you are having a night mare. Wake up
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You don't seem to understand that Marquette would likely be committing a big recruiting violation if they set up a scenario where he announces at Marquette Madness.
Scenario: Ellenson attends Marquette Madness. Three TV stations, Hunt and an online reporter see him there. The five reporters gather around him, ask him questions and Henry says whatever he says ... maybe even (although almost certainly not) that he is committing to attend Marquette.
That would be perfectly legal. Marquette will have set up nothing.
But you would be right to say that probably is the only legal scenario.
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Scenario: Ellenson attends Marquette Madness. Three TV stations, Hunt and an online reporter see him there. The five reporters gather around him, ask him questions and Henry says whatever he says ... maybe even (although almost certainly not) that he is committing to attend Marquette.
That would be perfectly legal. Marquette will have set up nothing.
But you would be right to say that probably is the only legal scenario.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that would be a violation, too. I believe visiting recruits are not permitted to talk to the media while on a campus visit. Maybe there is some loophole for an unofficial visit versus an official but I am not aware of any.
It's all moot anyways, since HE will be at Rice Lake's homecoming and not Marquette Madness.
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This thread provided much needed laughter for me. Thanks, guys.
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I just wanted to contribute to this because I didn't see it anywhere else...
At the President Lovell event in Chicago on Tuesday, he actually mentioned Henry's visit in his remarks and said that his family commented on how aligned himself, Wojo and Scholl were when it came to the university and what it had to offer him.
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I just wanted to contribute to this because I didn't see it anywhere else...
At the President Lovell event in Chicago on Tuesday, he actually mentioned Henry's visit in his remarks and said that his family commented on how aligned himself, Wojo and Scholl were when it came to the university and what it had to offer him.
Are you sure you heard that correctly? I have it on very good authority that the acoustics were terrible
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Are you sure you heard that correctly? I have it on very good authority that the acoustics were terrible
I kept hearing Henry "Peters."
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Are you sure you heard that correctly? I have it on very good authority that the acoustics were terrible
What Hey DeDe shared is accurate (not sure what was deleted, of course) .. I was there too. Lovell also noted that if Henry commits to MU it would constitute the best class since the McGuire era -- and to expect big things from the program in the future. Lovell was gushing just a bit about the program & Wojo ... he was also proud to point out that each of the key athletic department roles were filled quickly, with leaders he has a lot of confidence in (2 coaches, AD).
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I kept hearing Henry "Peters."
This almost had me shooting soda out of my nose.
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What Hey DeDe shared is accurate (not sure what was deleted, of course) .. I was there too. Lovell also noted that if Henry commits to MU it would constitute the best class since the McGuire era -- and to expect big things from the program in the future. Lovell was gushing just a bit about the program & Wojo ... he was also proud to point out that each of the key athletic department roles were filled quickly, with leaders he has a lot of confidence in (2 coaches, AD).
Unlike Henry simply talking to reporters on the spur of the moment at Madness, Lovell's comments actually would seem to be a recruiting violation.
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What Hey DeDe shared is accurate (not sure what was deleted, of course) .. I was there too. Lovell also noted that if Henry commits to MU it would constitute the best class since the McGuire era -- and to expect big things from the program in the future. Lovell was gushing just a bit about the program & Wojo ... he was also proud to point out that each of the key athletic department roles were filled quickly, with leaders he has a lot of confidence in (2 coaches, AD).
I have been hearing the same things. Have heard we may be on the verge of something very, very special.
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Unlike Henry simply talking to reporters on the spur of the moment at Madness, Lovell's comments actually would seem to be a recruiting violation.
Yeah did Lovell mention Henry by name? My understanding is that Marquette can't speak publicly about a recruit until he is signed.
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Yeah did Lovell mention Henry by name? My understanding is that Marquette can't speak publicly about a recruit until he is signed.
(I don't know the answer to your question, just thinking out loud if the answer is, "Yes.") Could it be different if a recruit's brother is in the program already? Could he have mentioned the Ellenson family without specifically mentioning Henry? Would that be legal?
I'm sure BeeJay will come to the rescue in 3...2...1...
P.S. QUEENS SKOLL!
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(I don't know the answer to your question, just thinking out loud if the answer is, "Yes.") Could it be different if a recruit's brother is in the program already? Could he have mentioned the Ellenson family without specifically mentioning Henry? Would that be legal?
I'm sure BeeJay will come to the rescue in 3...2...1...
P.S. QUEENS SKOLL!
If the answer to these questions is, "We're screwed," then I guess the tin foilers were onto something. This is just Lovell being a puppet of Larry and turning us into SLU. Bert throwing games so he could leave earlier was all part of the plan as well. Ners really was onto something here.
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We've received several requests to delete posts from this thread. Let me state a couple things:
1) If Lovell committed a recruiting violation, it is up to Marquette to report that. I'm not here to cover things up for Marquette.
2) If you don't know what was said (like me), it's best not to speculate, or rely on some random internet post to get all freaked out. Instead, I recommend you just keep checking back here for updates. If nothing else is said, there's no problem. Just don't comment unless you have something valuable to add.
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Just don't comment unless you have something valuable to add.
This will save on bandwidth. Like 99%!
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We've received several requests to delete posts from this thread. Let me state a couple things:
1) If Lovell committed a recruiting violation, it is up to Marquette to report that. I'm not here to cover things up for Marquette.
2) If you don't know what was said (like me), it's best not to speculate, or rely on some random internet post to get all freaked out. Instead, I recommend you just keep checking back here for updates. If nothing else is said, there's no problem. Just don't comment unless you have something valuable to add.
Might as well just shut her down then. The whole site. We haven't had a valuable post since about November 2013
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Might as well just shut her down then. The whole site. We haven't had a valuable post since about November 2013
It took awhile, but now that I've seen your signature line gif enough times, It cracks me up again when I notice the guy in the crowd in the yellow shorts who runs behind the guy in the blue shirt like he's trying to protect himself.
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It took awhile, but now that I've seen your signature line gif enough times, It cracks me up again when I notice the guy in the crowd in the yellow shorts who runs behind the guy in the blue shirt like he's trying to protect himself.
Or the fact that everyone reacts except for the gentlemen on each end....as if what just happened is pretty routine stuff.
Rocky was this valuable enough to add? ;D
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It took awhile, but now that I've seen your signature line gif enough times, It cracks me up again when I notice the guy in the crowd in the yellow shorts who runs behind the guy in the blue shirt like he's trying to protect himself.
Haha I don't know if I ever noticed that either.
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It took awhile, but now that I've seen your signature line gif enough times, It cracks me up again when I notice the guy in the crowd in the yellow shorts who runs behind the guy in the blue shirt like he's trying to protect himself.
He's running to the guy in the blue shirt like Henry will (theoretically) run to Marquette for greatness. (Boom. Topic is back on).
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He's running to the guy in the blue shirt like Henry will (theoretically) run to Marquette for greatness. (Boom. Topic is back on).
(http://media1.giphy.com/media/rZfs6RwvDqZ3i/200.gif)
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All:
According to the NCAA Legislative Services Database (sad that they even have to have one) Division I Legislation Display Cite: 13.10.2.1
“Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National Letter of Intent or an institution's written offer of admission and/or financial aid or before the institution receives his or her financial deposit in response to its offer of admission, a member institution may comment publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete. The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete's ability of the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution's team; further, the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete committing to or signing with that institution.”
Dr. Lovell's comments about HE were allowed. Houston "we do not have a problem"
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Are the Cougars recruitin' him too?
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All:
According to the NCAA Legislative Services Database (sad that they even have to have one) Division I Legislation Display Cite: 13.10.2.1
“Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National Letter of Intent or an institution's written offer of admission and/or financial aid or before the institution receives his or her financial deposit in response to its offer of admission, a member institution may comment publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete. The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete's ability of the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution's team; further, the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete committing to or signing with that institution.”
Dr. Lovell's comments about HE were allowed. Houston "we do not have a problem"
Thanks for that, BD. I am happy to stand corrected, even when I'm sitting.
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King Henry speaks about his trip to MU:
http://www.placefoto.com/index.php/p/820646877316890181_411205110
Not much detail!!
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(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/nervous/afraid.gif)
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No mention of what flavor ice cream he had.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 5m5 minutes ago
Not breaking news or anything but sounds like Marquette is in the driver's seat for Henry Ellenson, whose brother goes there. UK, MSU in mix
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 5m5 minutes ago
Not breaking news or anything but sounds like Marquette is in the driver's seat for Henry Ellenson, whose brother goes there. UK, MSU in mix
Wonder if he just heard something to solidify this even more or why he'd tweet that now.
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Wonder if he just heard something to solidify this even more or why he'd tweet that now.
This picture was from his instagram. It was posted last Monday. Very similar to a court picture from his MSU visit.
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This picture was from his instagram. It was posted last Monday. Very similar to a court picture from his MSU visit.
Sorry I quoted Zagoria's Tweet from about an hour ago saying that we are the leaders for Ellenson with MSU and Kentucky still in play.
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Gotcha. My bad.
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No mention of what flavor ice cream he had.
Or shoes, for that matter. To suggest disappointment would be a bit of understatement.
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https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1688868
[Ellenson] mentioned that he really felt like he made a connection with the Marquette staff and that he now has a better idea of their vision for him and that being close to home is a bonus. The Michigan State visit gave him a chance to see campus for the first time and really get to see Tom Izzo and their staff in their element and now he's headed to Kentucky with open eyes and ears. He will decide in the fall and the chance to play all over the floor and player development will be huge factors.
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https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1688868
[Ellenson] mentioned that he really felt like he made a connection with the Marquette staff and that he now has a better idea of their vision for him and that being close to home is a bonus. The Michigan State visit gave him a chance to see campus for the first time and really get to see Tom Izzo and their staff in their element and now he's headed to Kentucky with open eyes and ears. He will decide in the fall and the chance to play all over the floor and player development will be huge factors.
Sounds like MSU is out. Barring anything drastic looks like he will end up in blue and gold.
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Sounds like MSU is out. Barring anything drastic looks like he will end up in blue and gold.
Well if drake is at UK madness hopefully he tells Ellenson how awesome Haanif is.
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Well if drake is at UK madness hopefully he tells Ellenson how awesome Haanif is.
That's still the weirdest thing to me.
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Not too long ago MU would have had no chance due to the need to play someone of Henry's size at center. With Luke here and with Matt coming in with Henry's class that shouldn't be a worry. The problem with competing with Kentucky is what other school can realistically say to a top recruit who happens to be 6'10" 230 lbs; "Hey, no problem, we can play you at the three."
I also don't see how MU could be in this race without Wojo and his big man development experience at Duke and USA Basketball experience. So, I guess Mrs. Smart did us a favor in the long run.
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That's still the weirdest thing to me.
What's weird is that he won't tell how he knows drake.
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What's weird is that he won't tell how he knows drake.
Known each other for a couple years, though
(http://i.imgur.com/Vgq5Ncd.png) (https://twitter.com/Drake/status/244213839502135296)
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Drizzy Tracker
It's difficult to keep up with his teams.
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Known each other for a couple years, though
(http://i.imgur.com/Vgq5Ncd.png) (https://twitter.com/Drake/status/244213839502135296)
Also this: http://wordonroad.net/news/drake-attends-everglades-basketball-game-pines-charter-greets-fans-game/
There has to be a family connection somewhere.
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Not too long ago MU would have had no chance due to the need to play someone of Henry's size at center. With Luke here and with Matt coming in with Henry's class that shouldn't be a worry. The problem with competing with Kentucky is what other school can realistically say to a top recruit who happens to be 6'10" 230 lbs; "Hey, no problem, we can play you at the three."
I also don't see how MU could be in this race without Wojo and his big man development experience at Duke and USA Basketball experience. So, I guess Mrs. Smart did us a favor in the long run.
This is an excellent point.
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They would look sharp if they offered these pants for Marquette.
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Sadly only Georgetown.