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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Windyplayer on September 23, 2014, 12:57:12 PM
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Any news on how that went? According to CBS Sports, it was last weekend. (I'm sure this was dissected in some other thread, but humor me.)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24715993/weekend-visitation-five-star-bigs-take-trips (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24715993/weekend-visitation-five-star-bigs-take-trips)
Not sure what you can glean from it other than he didn't commit to MSU on campus which is obviously a good sign for us.
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Enjoy.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/2015_sg_matt_mcquaid_nearing_d.html
There is a brief bit about Ellenson half-way down. Not much we didn't already know, other than Swanigan doesn't look likely to commit soon, which means that Ellenson's spot isn't going to fill up in East Lansing any time soon.
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Any news on how that went? According to CBS Sports, it was last weekend. (I'm sure this was dissected in some other thread, but humor me.)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24715993/weekend-visitation-five-star-bigs-take-trips (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24715993/weekend-visitation-five-star-bigs-take-trips)
Not sure what you can glean from it other than he didn't commit to MSU on campus which is obviously a good sign for us.
He tweeted that he has a Great Visit. We still offer the best package for him. Hopefully he and the family will see it that way when it comes time for a decision.
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MSU fans werent exactly brimming with confidence in the comment section.
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Enjoy.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2014/09/2015_sg_matt_mcquaid_nearing_d.html
There is a brief bit about Ellenson half-way down. Not much we didn't already know, other than Swanigan doesn't look likely to commit soon, which means that Ellenson's spot isn't going to fill up in East Lansing any time soon.
Thank you, sir. "Great Visit." Doesn't get anymore vanilla than that. Excellent.
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We got a rare tweet from Mike Hunt: https://twitter.com/MichaelHuntMJS/status/514074377885712384
Henry apparently played dodgeball with the MSU team: https://twitter.com/jesseobrien/status/514122191362080768
He also said it was a "great trip:" https://twitter.com/BTpowerhouse/status/513767631745474561
That's really all that's been said about Henry's trip. I feel comfortable saying that Kentucky is our biggest competition at this point. Honestly, I think they always were.
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We got a rare tweet from Mike Hunt: https://twitter.com/MichaelHuntMJS/status/514074377885712384
Henry apparently played dodgeball with the MSU team: https://twitter.com/jesseobrien/status/514122191362080768
He also said it was a "great trip:" https://twitter.com/BTpowerhouse/status/513767631745474561
That's really all that's been said about Henry's trip. I feel comfortable saying that Kentucky is our biggest competition at this point. Honestly, I think they always were.
That Mike Hunt story is coming post Ellenson commitment right? ;)
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We got a rare tweet from Mike Hunt: https://twitter.com/MichaelHuntMJS/status/514074377885712384
Henry apparently played dodgeball with the MSU team: https://twitter.com/jesseobrien/status/514122191362080768
He also said it was a "great trip:" https://twitter.com/BTpowerhouse/status/513767631745474561
That's really all that's been said about Henry's trip. I feel comfortable saying that Kentucky is our biggest competition at this point. Honestly, I think they always were.
They're like the damn Yankees in baseball. This insidious virus that always threatens to thwart a top notch effort.
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I would be surprised if a commitment to anyone came before his visit to Kentucky. It would be nice if after the MU visit he narrowed it down to two (Kentucky and ?). No need to string along both MSU and MU.
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They're like the damn Yankees in baseball. This insidious virus that always threatens to thwart a top notch effort.
Yeah, but the Yankees haven't hurt anyone for years. John Calipari is Tony La Russa. Calipari's bitching about Coach K is the equivalent of "unwritten rules".
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Seriously doubt he verbals this weekend either. Figurin' on a presser just prior to the Nov. signin' period, a'ina?
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Seriously doubt he verbals this weekend either. Figurin' on a presser just prior to the Nov. signin' period, a'ina?
hopefully he has an MU cap for then other than the one the Brewers are giving away this weekend
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Henry has said he wants to make a decision before Rice Lake's hoops season starts.
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Henry has said he wants to make a decision before Rice Lake's hoops season starts.
When is that? And where did you see that?
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Let us now divert this thread to where he will commit to. MU, MSU, or Calcheatucky.
My pick: Duke of the Midwest.
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When is that? And where did you see that?
According to this, their first game is Dec. 12.
http://www.wissports.net/schedule/team_instance/924819?subseason=182849 (http://www.wissports.net/schedule/team_instance/924819?subseason=182849)
As for where I read when he's making his decision, it was in an article I probably won't be able to find from earlier this year.
Also FWIW, Henry's dad has been retweeting MU and Wojo stuff, but nothing from Cal or Izzo.
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According to this, their first game is Dec. 12.
http://www.wissports.net/schedule/team_instance/924819?subseason=182849 (http://www.wissports.net/schedule/team_instance/924819?subseason=182849)
As for where I read when he's making his decision, it was in an article I probably won't be able to find from earlier this year.
Also FWIW, Henry's dad has been retweeting MU and Wojo stuff, but nothing from Cal or Izzo.
In case anyone wants to follow or check out John Ellenson on twitter; https://twitter.com/jcellenson (https://twitter.com/jcellenson). You should remember though that one of his sons does currently go to Marquette.
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I take the great visit thing with a grain of salt. Heck, I had a great visit at Illinois, probably my best college visit honestly but I chose marquette. Many factors to consider.
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I take the great visit thing with a grain of salt. Heck, I had a great visit at Illinois, probably my best college visit honestly but I chose marquette. Many factors to consider.
And we thank you for that. I'll never forget your 40-point game, especially your winning trey at the buzzer!
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I take the great visit thing with a grain of salt. Heck, I had a great visit at Illinois, probably my best college visit honestly but I chose marquette. Many factors to consider.
Sources indicated that I was an Illinois lean at one point as well. Things change.
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I was a UC Irvine lean until I saw the MU dorms and decided to verbal to MU at that point.
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And we thank you for that. I'll never forget your 40-point game, especially your winning trey at the buzzer!
Still to this day they talk about that performance in the rec center.
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I take the great visit thing with a grain of salt. Heck, I had a great visit at Illinois, probably my best college visit honestly but I chose marquette. Many factors to consider.
Too lazy to look it up but didn't he visit Northwestern earlier this summer and say great things about them too (and maybe even "great visit") and then pretty much take them off his list?
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I was a UC Irvine lean until I saw the MU dorms and decided to verbal to MU at that point.
I visited Irvine as well. Got my picture with the anteater statue.
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I took the Nick Flory path. Committed as soon as I was old enough. Boston College attempted to get me to decommit. Even took an unofficial.
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My final three schools were the same as Henry's. Never seriously considered UK but felt the $10 application fee was worth the fun. Took an unofficial to MSU (went to the football game that weekend where the Spartans were blown out by an Art Schlichter-led OSU team) in the fall of my senior year and then took an official to MU shortly after that. Committed to MU on my visit and have never regretted that decision, unlike several others through the years.
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My final three schools were the same as Henry's. Never seriously considered UK but felt the $10 application fee was worth the fun. Took an unofficial to MSU (went to the football game that weekend where the Spartans were blown out by an Art Schlichter-led OSU team) in the fall of my senior year and then took an official to MU shortly after that. Committed to MU on my visit and have never regretted that decision, unlike several others through the years.
Thanks for sharing. Can you please tell us the differences between a public university and Marquette?
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I took the Nick Flory path. Committed as soon as I was old enough. Boston College attempted to get me to decommit. Even took an unofficial.
Same. When I was 16 and visited my brother for the first time without my parents I knew MU was the place for me. He picked me up at the airport, we grabbed a bite to eat, then stopped and got a keg before we even got back to campus. An hour later a full on party was going. Once the keg was running dry they snuck me into Angelo's where the owner Mike gave me my first fake ID. I was on-top of the world. I basically committed that night because whenever someone asked me if I was having a good time I would tell them that if I get in I'm coming to MU.
10 years later my family went 4-4 with all of us going to Marquette.
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was that ID a Will D Turkey printed on unlaminated paper? I feel like I left a few of those with mike
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I took the Nick Flory path. Committed as soon as I was old enough. Boston College attempted to get me to decommit. Even took an unofficial.
Who is Nick Flory? Any relation to Philip?
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was that ID a Will D Turkey printed on unlaminated paper? I feel like I left a few of those with mike
It was an Indiana ID. He brought out a shoebox filled with them and riffled through em until he landed on one that he thought looked like me. Mike was the man.
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Xavier had me all but locked up and let me slip through their fingers. I was a package deal and my friends weren't willing to go to Xavier. Xavier's loss is Marquette's gain, I suppose.
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I went to a Jesuit high school. They pushed Georgetown and Holy Cross - and Marquette as a back up/safety alternative. Family (Midwest, Catholic) wanted Notre Dame. Four years of an all boys high school was enough, so I said no to Notre Dame and Holy Cross. Georgetown was 1000 miles from Northbrook, Il, Marquette was 70. I was dating the prettiest girl in Northbrook and she was a year behind me in school. So I "settled" for Marquette. I had way too much fun at MU to want to come home for visits, so the girl and I were pretty much done by Thanksgiving. But 48 years later I'm still grateful to her for helping me choose MU. Because of her (and my wanting to "just say no" to ND and Holy Cross) I "committed" to Marquette like JFB and Jae - no visit necessary. I lived 70 miles from 13th and Wisconsin, and the first time I saw the campus was when my parents dropped me off at Schroeder Hall. Lucky day for me.
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Thanks for sharing. Can you please tell us the differences between a public university and Marquette?
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Public vs private
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Public vs private
The main thing in Marquette's favor was class size, as in fewer lecture-type classes. Also liked the urban setting since it was a nice change from the small town I grew up in.
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I went to MU and MSU, the latter for grad school.
I love both schools: their culture, their traditions, their basketball.
I went to MU when Al was coach and we won a championship.
I went to MSU when Magic played his only two years and we won a championship.
The campuses are polar opposites in appearance: cracked sidewalks vs. an arboretum. Both are beautiful to me.
10K students vs nearly 50K so for every coed at MU, MSU has 5. But it is the right one that matters, right?
Real Chili vs Beggar's Banquet chili, a tie if the latter is less than 5 alarm.
Frozen custard at Leon's or Copp's vs the Dairy Store on the south campus, another tie but Leon's also has great dogs and Spanish hamburgers.
Having said all that I believe MU is the better choice for an undergraduate education and if nurturing one's soul is a college goal.
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Izzo's track record of success vs. Wojo's inexperience.
Far from home at a big state school vs. staying in state close to family and playing with your brother and Nosko.
I no longer hold my breath on these things, but I really hope he picks us.
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Izzo's track record of success vs. Wojo's inexperience.
Far from home at a big state school vs. staying in state close to family and playing with your brother and Nosko.
I no longer hold my breath on these things, but I really hope he picks us.
I truly believe that Kentucky is and always has been the bigger threat. Strictly opinion though
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If Cal wants him, the Colonels will cut the check. The family might like Wojo, but financial security is tough to beat.
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I went to MU and then University of North Dakota for med school. Sadly, both schools had or were pressured to change their politically incorrect mascots over the years and both had the same reactions from alums. "Fighting Sioux" and "Warriors" are no longer with us. There were a lot of UND to MSU connections for residencies but I went to Texas. I cannot say anything bad about MSU but you can't beat being downtown in a city like Milwaukee for an education!
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If Cal wants him, the Colonels will cut the check. The family might like Wojo, but financial security is tough to beat.
I mean I can't really see the Ellensons being a family that would need financial security. From Rice Lake and they don't have to pay for either of their sons college education.
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I mean I can't really see the Ellensons being a family that would need financial security. From Rice Lake and they don't have to pay for either of their sons college education.
Plus there's something called the "NBA" waiting for their younger son. I hear you get paid okay there.
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Plus there's something called the "NBA" waiting for their younger son. I hear you get paid okay there.
In addition, John himself has been through the recruiting process. He certainly understands what's proper—and what isn't. I would never suggest he'd be cool with Cal cutting a check.
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I truly believe that Kentucky is and always has been the bigger threat. Strictly opinion though
Does Kentucky offer that much more than Duke ( That henry cut from his list) ??
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I mean I can't really see the Ellensons being a family that would need financial security. From Rice Lake and they don't have to pay for either of their sons college education.
You can always use more money.
But I don't think that's how they'll decide. Henry is getting to the NBA. They'll decide based on who can get him the best position once he gets there. I really think that's us. Depending on how the team does this year, Kentucky could have anywhere from 1-7 players go pro. My guess is four (Harrison twins, Towns Jr, and one other). That means Kentucky would have three schollies left. If get Newman and Brown like their projected to, that would leave Henry as about the 5th or 6th guy on their bench. At Marquette, he would be a star from day one
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Does Kentucky offer that much more than Duke ( That henry cut from his list) ??
Kentucky's package is unique. No other school can match it. If the one and done experience is what they want, Kentucky is the best
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You can always use more money.
But I don't think that's how they'll decide. Henry is getting to the NBA. They'll decide based on who can get him the best position once he gets there. I really think that's us. Depending on how the team does this year, Kentucky could have anywhere from 1-7 players go pro. My guess is four (Harrison twins, Towns Jr, and one other). That means Kentucky would have three schollies left. If get Newman and Brown like their projected to, that would leave Henry as about the 5th or 6th guy on their bench. At Marquette, he would be a star from day one
I think it's a little premature to say Henry will undoubtedly make it to the NBA. Brian Butch was a consensus top 10 player in high school and look how he turned out.
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Kentucky's package is unique. No other school can match it. If the one and done experience is what they want, Kentucky is the best
Why do you think their package is unique?
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Why do you think their package is unique?
Here's a guess, from wiki. The Wildcats have played in a record 53 NCAA Tournaments and 163 NCAA Tournament games, and hold the records for most Sweet Sixteen appearances (40), most Elite Eight appearances (35), and most total postseason tournament appearances (62). Further, Kentucky has played in 16 Final Fours (3rd place all time, behind UCLA and North Carolina), and 12 NCAA Championship games (tied for most with UCLA). Kentucky also leads all schools with 58 20-win seasons, 13 30-win seasons, and is the only school with 5 different NCAA Championship coaches (Rupp, Hall, Pitino, Smith, Calipari).
And to top it off, coach Cal has sent 19 kids to the draft in 5 years. It's impressive.
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I think it's a little premature to say Henry will undoubtedly make it to the NBA. Brian Butch was a consensus top 10 player in high school and look how he turned out.
He also went to Wisconsin. Henry eliminated them from his list a long time ago, so he's good.
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Why do you think their package is unique?
What Eso said, but more importantly, the connections that Cal has with Nike and other companies that he uses to market his players for the NBA is...well...genius, as much as I hate admitting it. Not to mention the unbelievable facilities and big blue madness.
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Also the Wildcat Lodge (BB players dorm) is luxurious and practice facilities are state-of-art. If you are a Wildcat BB player, you are a King in Kentucky.
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What Eso said, but more importantly, the connections that Cal has with Nike and other companies that he uses to market his players for the NBA is...well...genius, as much as I hate admitting it. Not to mention the unbelievable facilities and big blue madness.
I know the history , but Duke and UNC and have similar pedigrees. What I guess your saying that is unique is that Cal is the best salesman in College basketball recruiting today and he has figured out how to leverage Nike into the sales process better than his rivals.
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Also the Wildcat Lodge (BB players dorm) is luxurious and practice facilities are state-of-art. If you are a Wildcat BB player, you are a King in Kentucky.
But that's the problem. You're in Kentucky.
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I think it's a little premature to say Henry will undoubtedly make it to the NBA. Brian Butch was a consensus top 10 player in high school and look how he turned out.
Agreed. Quite a few top players have never made it, and many others only had a cup of coffee.
How 'bout if we let Henry get through his senior high school season before declaring him an NBA certainty.
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But that's the problem. You're in Kentucky.
As a resident of Lexington, I'll say that there are worse places to spend your 1-4 years than the UK campus. Lexington is not Harlan County.
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What Eso said, but more importantly, the connections that Cal has with Nike and other companies that he uses to market his players for the NBA is...well...genius, as much as I hate admitting it. Not to mention the unbelievable facilities and big blue madness.
With that being said, it seems that MU can only counter with 1) Playing near Family/Friends and 2) A better chance to the Big Fish. Can we offer more, and do you feel we will land Henry?
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Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
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Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
True indeed!
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Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
Wow. It's that kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this board.
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Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
It's like a mantra for life, man.
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Wow. It's that kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this board.
It satiated my craving for empty platitudes as well. Many thanks, Chicos!
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It is what it is, aina?
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Wow. It's that kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this board.
Worrying about what an 18 year old does, how his trips to other schools go, what is the secret meaning of his texts.......
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Worrying about what an 18 year old does, how his trips to other schools go, what is the secret meaning of his texts.......
You're above it all, Chicos. A true renaissance man. A rugged, Clint Eastwood/John Wayne man's man who couldn't be bothered with any of this nonsense.
Except you've spent ~10k of your 20k posts in pedantic arguments defending Crean's honor at every turn for 7+ years, and another ~5k useleslly referencing z-list celebrities you "know" or shoehorning your job into discussions. So please, come off it.
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It is what it is, aina?
4ever.....how come you haven't put Ellenson in your username?
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Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
Oh!! Thank you great voice of reason. That comes as a great comfort, for the rest of the board was under the impression that the program would be boarded up and shutdown, eerily reminiscient of the old Pabst Brewery down the street.
Did you obtain your great wisdom and serenity over a back yard beer with the Dali Lama or is it a combination of all the great and wonderful people that you have met?, and subsequently dropped their names on this board?
Please let us all know, as evidenced by the previous posts, we anticipate your posts with baited breath.
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You're above it all, Chicos. A true renaissance man. A rugged, Clint Eastwood/John Wayne man's man who couldn't be bothered with any of this nonsense.
Except you've spent ~10k of your 20k posts in pedantic arguments defending Crean's honor at every turn for 7+ years, and another ~5k useleslly referencing z-list celebrities you "know" or shoehorning your job into discussions. So please, come off it.
LOL
I do not believe the irony is lost on anyone. But, a good synopsis of 20,000+ posts all rolled into three sentences.
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Oh!! Thank you great voice of reason. That comes as a great comfort, for the rest of the board was under the impression that the program would be boarded up and shutdown, eerily reminiscient of the old Pabst Brewery down the street.
Did you obtain your great wisdom and serenity over a back yard beer with the Dali Lama or is it a combination of all the great and wonderful people that you have met?, and subsequently dropped their names on this board?
Please let us all know, as evidenced by the previous posts, we anticipate your posts with baited breath.
Oh you silly cattle rustler....I have enjoyed tremendously your contributions as Ahoya Ball Scout, Mr. Hayward, Canadian Dimes, Blackswan, Baselinetobaseline, etc.
It's been fun watching people shut you down over the years in your various forms.
Irregardless....remember that one. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=9279.msg79281#msg79281
So many other memories about your coaching acumen, those were especially endearing.
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You're above it all, Chicos. A true renaissance man. A rugged, Clint Eastwood/John Wayne man's man who couldn't be bothered with any of this nonsense.
Except you've spent ~10k of your 20k posts in pedantic arguments defending Crean's honor at every turn for 7+ years, and another ~5k useleslly referencing z-list celebrities you "know" or shoehorning your job into discussions. So please, come off it.
This is what happens when truth collides with humor. Brilliant!
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You're above it all, Chicos. A true renaissance man. A rugged, Clint Eastwood/John Wayne man's man who couldn't be bothered with any of this nonsense.
Except you've spent ~10k of your 20k posts in pedantic arguments defending Crean's honor at every turn for 7+ years, and another ~5k useleslly referencing z-list celebrities you "know" or shoehorning your job into discussions. So please, come off it.
Don't forget a few extra thousand of turning threads into political debates!
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This is what happens when truth collides with humor. Brilliant!
Except truth isn't truthy, but that's ok. 10K posts defending him...laughable, and not truthful. Go Redskins
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I know the history , but Duke and UNC and have similar pedigrees. What I guess your saying that is unique is that Cal is the best salesman in College basketball recruiting today and he has figured out how to leverage Nike into the sales process better than his rivals.
Cal also has the ability to "hide" his players at UK. UNC and Duke are too prestigious academically. When UK players don't take gen eds with the rest of the school, no one notices. School is big and not known for academics. The for sure one and dones aren't made to go to class and the structure of Kentucky allows for that. Hard to compete with that. Unless the student wants an education.
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Cal also has the ability to "hide" his players at UK. UNC and Duke are too prestigious academically. When UK players don't take gen eds with the rest of the school, no one notices. School is big and not known for academics. The for sure one and dones aren't made to go to class and the structure of Kentucky allows for that. Hard to compete with that. Unless the student wants an education.
I certainly don't get the impression that Ellenson is looking to avoid classes and shortchange his education. Doesn't seem that he—or his family—are interested in that.
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yes but they enjoy being pants pissers over the situation...
Gents, he either comes to MU or he doesn't. It is what it is. We will field a team regardless of his decision.
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Except truth isn't truthy, but that's ok. 10K posts defending him...laughable, and not truthful. Go Redskins
The use of hyperbole doesn't change the underlying truth.
This is a Marquette basketball board. If Henry Ellenson picks MU he'll be the highest rated high school player to do so in decades. To Marquette basketball fans that's an understandably big deal. Pretty funny when a guy with your combative posting history plays the serenity card.
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yes but they enjoy being pants pissers over the situation...
Pant pisssers? MU has a legit shot at landing a 5-star recruit, the first in quite some time, excuse us if we're not playing it "cool" like we land these guys on the reg. I don't think anyone is pissing their pants, but there is some understandable apprehension if we miss out on this guy that is characterized as a heavy MU lean.
And, come on, guy, no one enjoys pissing their pants. TRUST ME.
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Pant pisssers? MU has a legit shot at landing a 5-star recruit, the first in quite some time, excuse us if we're not playing it "cool" like we land these guys on the reg. I don't think anyone is pissing their pants, but there is some understandable apprehension if we miss out on this guy that is characterized as a heavy MU lean.
And, come on, guy, no one enjoys pissing their pants. TRUST ME.
If MU fanatics were ever going to get excited about a potential recruit, this would be the time. Who knows if this kind of situation will ever present itself again. A legit top-five recruit...a smooth shooting big man...from Wisconsin...STRONGLY considering MU.
Not saying this is MU's last chance to get a stud like this...but it may very well be their best chance.
Certainly seems like a good reason to get pumped up.
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Is this is an argument over the degree of excitement to which it is appropriate for fans to get to about a recruit's decision?
We must be on the internet
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The use of hyperbole doesn't change the underlying truth.
This is a Marquette basketball board. If Henry Ellenson picks MU he'll be the highest rated high school player to do so in decades. To Marquette basketball fans that's an understandably big deal. Pretty funny when a guy with your combative posting history plays the serenity card.
Underlying truth....hyperbole...good one. Think about what you just said for a second and try to square it. You sound like Dan Rather's justification that got him fired. LOL.
I think you're missing the point on Henry. I hope like hell he comes here. He's either coming here or he isn't. That's all I said, but that didn't stop several from getting bothered about those comments. If people want to follow 18 year olds tweets and psychoanalyze what he said or didn't say...perhaps examining any "underlying truths" that might be in there...fine. If people want to facebook 18 year olds they don't know, hey knock your socks off.
To me, he's either coming here or he isn't and we will field a team either way. Sometimes landing a top guy is great, sometimes it's not (chemistry, etc). Won't know until happens, if it happens. It was my opinion on the subject.
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4ever.....how come you haven't put Ellenson in your username?
'Cause the sun comes up in the East whether Henry matriculates at MU or not. Its Wojo's problem, not mine. More important things in life than ridin' the waves of any 18 year old, hey?
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'Cause the sun comes up in the East whether Henry matriculates at MU or not. Its Wojo's problem, not mine. More important things in life than ridin' the waves of any 18 year old, hey?
BINGO
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BINGO
I guess the question then becomes why post on Scoop? Why follow Scoop? After all, it's a forum about a bunch of 18-22 year olds, no? And sometimes even younger with recruits. Do I sit around and follow every post these kids make on Facebook or Twitter? No. But am I going to criticize someone who provides some information to us from those things? No, because after all here I am posting on and reading MUScoop, a forum about 18-22 year old basketball players.
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Just got word from a VERY reliable source that Henry Ellenson is leaning towards Kentucky..
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I guess the question then becomes why post on Scoop? Why follow Scoop? After all, it's a forum about a bunch of 18-22 year olds, no? And sometimes even younger with recruits. Do I sit around and follow every post these kids make on Facebook or Twitter? No. But am I going to criticize someone who provides some information to us from those things? No, because after all here I am posting on and reading MUScoop, a forum about 18-22 year old basketball players.
For me, I'll be perfectly happy to obsess about 18-22 year old basketball players once they are actually our players not uncommitted recruits.
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Just got word from a VERY reliable source that Henry Ellenson is leaning towards Kentucky..
But the source HAS to remain anonymous, no doubt.
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Just got word from a VERY reliable source that Henry Ellenson is leaning towards Kentucky..
Haha
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I heard from a former UW player and current booster who was adamant that Henry is a strong MU lean.
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Haha
What he said.
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I guess the question then becomes why post on Scoop? Why follow Scoop? After all, it's a forum about a bunch of 18-22 year olds, no? And sometimes even younger with recruits. Do I sit around and follow every post these kids make on Facebook or Twitter? No. But am I going to criticize someone who provides some information to us from those things? No, because after all here I am posting on and reading MUScoop, a forum about 18-22 year old basketball players.
BINGO
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Cal also has the ability to "hide" his players at UK. UNC and Duke are too prestigious academically. When UK players don't take gen eds with the rest of the school, no one notices. School is big and not known for academics. The for sure one and dones aren't made to go to class and the structure of Kentucky allows for that. Hard to compete with that. Unless the student wants an education.
I think the things your point out are definitely structural advantages. Especially if a kid is not interested in school. Hard to compete with that.
I remember how Al used to say that he was looking for kids that wanted the benefit of our education. Although he encouraged Chones to leave when he had the chance.
When I look at our recruits so far this year. It appears that Haanif valued what we were bringing to the table academically.
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Just got word from a VERY reliable source that Henry Ellenson is leaning towards Kentucky..
respect the process
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Go to Kentucky, be a guy "most" fans remember 15-20 years later. Go to MU, be the guy everyone remembers for the next 40.
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"Que Sera, Sera Whatever Will Be , Will Be"
Doris Day
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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/joe-rexrode/2014/09/25/hey-joe-rexrode-msu-basketball/16208063/
Buried deep in the article, it says that Marquette has long been considered the leader for Ellenson.
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Just got word from a VERY reliable source that Henry Ellenson is leaning towards Kentucky..
One thing we know for sure, there is NEVER a shortage of reliable sources.
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BINGO
The guy cant help himself, has to be the center of attention even if it is negative. Sad.
Irregardless - Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead
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Go to Kentucky, be a guy "most" fans remember 15-20 years later. Go to MU, be the guy everyone remembers for the next 40.
Or be this generation's George Thompson -- the first great recruit of the Wojo era that started a line of excellence and brought us our second to sixth national championships.
Remember the Milwaukee Sentinel the morning after our 1977 championship said, "Marquette wins FIRST National Championship…"
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FWIW, the MSU beat writer for the Detroit Free Press thinks Ellenson will ultimately pick MU.
This was his response to a chat question asking about the likelihood of MSU signing Ellenson and/or Caleb Swanigan. "Of those two, I'd say Swanigan is more likely. I just think it'll be tough for MSU to beat Marquette on Ellenson."
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I guess the question then becomes why post on Scoop? Why follow Scoop? After all, it's a forum about a bunch of 18-22 year olds, no? And sometimes even younger with recruits. Do I sit around and follow every post these kids make on Facebook or Twitter? No. But am I going to criticize someone who provides some information to us from those things? No, because after all here I am posting on and reading MUScoop, a forum about 18-22 year old basketball players.
Really? Simple, I follow the name on the front of the jersey, not the ones on the back. I wish all the ones that come to MU to do well, matriculate, live productive lives, represent the university well. At the end of the day, I'm a MU alum and I wish for MU to do well, that includes athletics.
To each their own, everyone follows this stuff differently, but as 4ever put it so well, the sun is going to rise and set each day. I will be cheering for MU, either way. Not hard.
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The guy cant help himself, has to be the center of attention even if it is negative. Sad.
Irregardless - Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead
You were wrong, just as you were wrong about a banning last week, just as you were wrong about the Big Ten not taking Prop 48's the week prior, and on and on. Your ratio of wrong per post is piss poor. In all this time, all those usernames, I have NEVER seen you admit to being wrong...ever. Same goes for your buddy. We're all wrong at times, it's ok to admit it.
Good night blackswan, ahoyaballscout, mrhayward, canadiandimes, etc....sleep tight.
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I thought i was wrong once, but i was mistaken
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You're above it all, Chicos. A true renaissance man. A rugged, Clint Eastwood/John Wayne man's man who couldn't be bothered with any of this nonsense.
Except you've spent ~10k of your 20k posts in pedantic arguments defending Crean's honor at every turn for 7+ years, and another ~5k useleslly referencing z-list celebrities you "know" or shoehorning your job into discussions. So please, come off it.
Perhaps the funniest thing I've read in my 5 year Scoop history.
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In all this time, all those usernames, I have NEVER seen you admit to being wrong...ever. Same goes for your buddy. We're all wrong at times, it's ok to admit it.
I assume that I am the buddy to whom you refer. Per usual, you are wrong. I have admitted being mistaken and apologized for it multiple times on this forum. I won't call you a liar (as you would in my shoes). I'll just say you're patently, demonstrably wrong. What new?
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Irregardless
Boo and hiss!
Boo and hiss!
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I assume that I am the buddy to whom you refer. Per usual, you are wrong. I have admitted being mistaken and apologized for it multiple times on this forum. I won't call you a liar (as you would in my shoes). I'll just say you're patently, demonstrably wrong. What new?
Maybe you just like admitting you are wrong to certain people but not others, tougher to swallow your pride in some cases.
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Perhaps the funniest thing I've read in my 5 year Scoop history.
Mine is still the BMA exchange with you....not sure there was ever a more funny moment. The difference between that one and the one you think is funny, is that BMA's was sourced in truth...nothing funnier than truth sourced comedy.....or is it the "underlying truth"....definitions are so fleeting around here.
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Mine is still the BMA exchange with you....not sure there was ever a more funny moment. The difference between that one and the one you think is funny, is that BMA's was sourced in truth...nothing funnier than truth sourced comedy.....or is it the "underlying truth"....definitions are so fleeting around here.
LOL - BMA's rant toward me was funny...while ironically hypocritical. I too found it rather funny...perhaps even more funny has been you and a couple of others trying to recycle that thread to try to spite me. Wouldn't surprise me if you had that specific quote bookmarked. LOL.
Now, with regard to you feeling this latest comedic post regarding you isn't sourced in truth - not sure what alternate reality you are living in - but if you are going to deny that for 7+ years and ~10,000 posts you've authored don't have Tom Crean involved in one way or another - well, that isn't being real Chicos. Of course the poster used ~ as an approximation..so a little bit of wiggle room.
I certainly don't mind your posts on the Z-list celebs you interface with on occasion, nor do I mind your posts referencing your position at DirecTV - and you bring good info when it comes to the landscape of TV's influence on sports/college sport etc.