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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: onepost on September 10, 2014, 10:30:37 AM
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I know we've got a number of these threads up, but I'd just like to start one final (hopefully on topic) Henry Ellenson thread that we can use till he makes a decision.
Evan Daniels had a list of 60 or so coaches and the visits they were all scheduled to make once the recruiting period opened back up this week. He reported that Wojo went to visit Henry at his school in Rice Lake first thing on Tuesday (the first day you could see recruits again), stressing that he was Wojo's only priority at this time. Also, I noticed that Calipari went to see two of his main targets (I wanna say Jaylen Brown and Stephen Zimmerman?) for in-home visits, while Izzo went to go see Caleb Swanigan right away. I'm sure these guys will go see all their targets soon enough, but I loved seeing that Wojo made Henry his first (and really only) priority first thing on Tuesday while Cal and Izzo have him further down the line. Gotta think these recruits (while obviously fickle minded as a whole) notice that kinda stuff.
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Glad are coach is
Committed and works hard.
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I've been thinking about picking up some Reef Deck Hands recently.
This is another thread about shoes, right?
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Awesome to hear and only makes me more excited that Henry will be a Warrior.
Wojo had a busy day. Up in Rice Lake in the morning and then back at MU by 2:00pm for the Bill Scholl press conference. Respect the hustle
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All of my posts will now be titled "Henry Ellenson"
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Awesome to hear and only makes me more excited that Henry will be a Warrior.
Wojo had a busy day. Up in Rice Lake in the morning and then back at MU by 2:00pm for the Bill Scholl press conference. Respect the hustle
Private Plane, piece of cake!
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I know that he's *the* priority and a lot of people think he is coming to MU...but I hope Wojo has a back up plan of some sort.
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I'm not that great at making accurate predictions, but I feel very good about the following:
This will not be the final Henry Ellenson thread till he makes a decision.
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I know that he's *the* priority and a lot of people think he is coming to MU...but I hope Wojo has a back up plan of some sort.
ABR.
I think the backups at this point are Bryant Crawford, Levan Alston, and Davon Dillard. The Crawford ship may be sailing though. SMU and Georgetown are riding him hard.
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I'm not that great at making accurate predictions, but I feel very good about the following:
This will not be the final Henry Ellenson thread till he makes a decision.
Oh I'm sure, just trying to clean things up a bit and had some info I hadn't seen posted on here.
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ABR.
I think the backups at this point are Bryant Crawford, Levan Alston, and Davon Dillard. The Crawford ship may be sailing though. SMU and Georgetown are riding him hard.
You just named three guards/wings. IMO those aren't back up plans to Ellenson. They were back up plans to Cheatham...or possible transfers.
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Caleb Swanigan is practically a lock for Michigan State. That would give them two 5 star bigs and a four star wing in the 2015 class. With his last schollie I think Izzo is going after a PG.
Ellenson is about the 17th priority for Calipari right now.
I feel more and more confident every day that Henry will be a Warrior. I'm predicting an early October announcement.
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You just named three guards/wings. IMO those aren't back up plans to Ellenson. They were back up plans to Cheatham...or possible transfers.
Ellenson may be big, but can play like a wing. I don't think Wojo is locked in a PF for the final schollie. We already have Gabe, Luke, Taylor, and Heldt. Obviously could use more, but I think Ellenson is the only PF he is currently recruiting. Should he go elsewhere, I don't think Wojo will mind picking up another wing instead. Davon Dillard if I had to guess.
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I feel very confident as well.
Who knows when our last five star recruit was?
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You just named three guards/wings. IMO those aren't back up plans to Ellenson. They were back up plans to Cheatham...or possible transfers.
Not sure what you're looking for in a "backup plan," because there is no other top-20 recruit out there who does what Ellenson does while also being interested in Marquette.
In the highly unlikely event that Ellenson makes a catastrophic mistake and chooses to matriculate elsewhere, methinks Wojo's backup plan will be to sign another very good player to go along with the three very good players who already have committed.
I mean, maybe Heldt already IS the backup plan!
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I know we've got a number of these threads up, but I'd just like to start one final (hopefully on topic) Henry Ellenson thread that we can use till he makes a decision.
Evan Daniels had a list of 60 or so coaches and the visits they were all scheduled to make once the recruiting period opened back up this week. He reported that Wojo went to visit Henry at his school in Rice Lake first thing on Tuesday (the first day you could see recruits again), stressing that he was Wojo's only priority at this time. Also, I noticed that Calipari went to see two of his main targets (I wanna say Jaylen Brown and Stephen Zimmerman?) for in-home visits, while Izzo went to go see Caleb Swanigan right away. I'm sure these guys will go see all their targets soon enough, but I loved seeing that Wojo made Henry his first (and really only) priority first thing on Tuesday while Cal and Izzo have him further down the line. Gotta think these recruits (while obviously fickle minded as a whole) notice that kinda stuff.
This is great to hear. Hopefully Swanigan commits to MSU before Henry makes his decision. Every little bit helps.
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I mean, maybe Heldt already IS the backup plan!
Good point.
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Got wood. Just hope WoJo didn't show up at midnight in a limo, a'ina?
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Got wood. Just hope WoJo didn't show up at midnight in a limo, a'ina?
Scott Wood? Thought that dude's eligibility with the Wolf Pack was up. Another Russell Wilson from the same school, just a different sport?
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I know that he's *the* priority and a lot of people think he is coming to MU...but I hope Wojo has a back up plan of some sort.
Me too Sultan. And even if he does not have a back up plan, he can always rely on you and I to provide him with one.
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I feel very confident as well.
Who knows when our last five star recruit was?
Probably Doc in the early 80s.
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Doc was the last burger boy. Vander was a 5 star on ESPN I believe.
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Kerry Trotter was our last McDonald's AA recruit, so he might be the last consensus 5 star.
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I'm not that great at making accurate predictions, but I feel very good about the following:
This will not be the final Henry Ellenson thread till he makes a decision.
Of course, things can change quickly...but I'm starting to buy into the possibility that Henry will be coming to MU. Seems like MU has all the momentum—at least according to the experts at 247. As long as Mark Miller continues to predict Ellenson to MU, I'm feeling pretty good.
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Caleb Swanigan is practically a lock for Michigan State. That would give them two 5 star bigs and a four star wing in the 2015 class. With his last schollie I think Izzo is going after a PG.
Ellenson is about the 17th priority for Calipari right now.
I feel more and more confident every day that Henry will be a Warrior. I'm predicting an early October announcement.
Same here. First half of October.
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Is he still really a 5 star?
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Is he still really a 5 star?
Who? Henry? Absolutely.
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You just named three guards/wings. IMO those aren't back up plans to Ellenson. They were back up plans to Cheatham...or possible transfers.
My guess is the back up plan is to work the transfer market hard and find another big there. Does anyone know the status of Travon Bunch? Are we still interested in him?
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Correct me if I'm wrong---Think Travon Bunch is going to a prep school in Georgia with two other Racine
players, Romeo Bouie and Jevon Smith from Wis. Lutheran.
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Is he still really a 5 star?
LOL! Is that the latest rationalization in Madison now? That Henry is slipping in the rankings?
Scout - 5* #6
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6134037
Rivals - 5* #17
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Henry-Ellenson-130527
ESPN - 5* #5
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/143158/henry-ellenson
247 - 5* #9/18
http://247sports.com/Player/Henry-Ellenson-20499
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Does anyone know the status of Travon Bunch? Are we still interested in him?
He's had some serious academic problems in high school. My guess is that Wojo is not pursuing him.
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He's had some serious academic problems in high school. My guess is that Wojo is not pursuing him.
Crazy, overbearing family...questionable grades...slipping in the rankings.
Those wacky Vadger fans. So predictable...so pathetic.
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He's had some serious academic problems in high school. My guess is that Wojo is not pursuing him.
You have 12 scholarship players for 2015, if Ellenson signs that is 13, if not hold 2016 so you will have 2 scholarships to hand out. Right now the classes are not in balance. Only 1 senior
in 2 years, Taylor. Will have 5 seniors in a few years, hard to replace classes like that. Not sure how many Division 1 players in Wisconsin in 2015 but Sam Hauser might be it. This year
was the best ever with Stone, Ellenson, and Heldt for big men ever. Transfers just like MU picking up 3 lately, are there every year, I would try and hold out 1 spring offer every year to
see who is out there.
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Crazy, overbearing family...questionable grades...slipping in the rankings.
Those wacky Vadger fans. So predictable...so pathetic.
I think you may have meant to quote somebody else. I was answering TW's question about Travon Bunch.
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You have 12 scholarship players for 2015, if Ellenson signs that is 13, if not hold 2016 so you will have 2 scholarships to hand out. Right now the classes are not in balance. Only 1 senior
in 2 years, Taylor. Will have 5 seniors in a few years, hard to replace classes like that. Not sure how many Division 1 players in Wisconsin in 2015 but Sam Hauser might be it. This year
was the best ever with Stone, Ellenson, and Heldt for big men ever. Transfers just like MU picking up 3 lately, are there every year, I would try and hold out 1 spring offer every year to
see who is out there.
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I never like banking scholarships. They are one year contracts. I'd rather sign a winger for a year and hope he works out. If he doesn't, cut him. Sounds cold but that's how it is sometimes.
There's still a lot of time in 2015. If Henry doesn't work out, we can find and sign another quality recruit. If balancing the classes is truly a priority, I'd rather look for a graduate transfer who can help the program.
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I think you may have meant to quote somebody else. I was answering TW's question about Travon Bunch.
No, actually it also applies to Henry. I've heard lots of talk about his "demanding" family, as well as a few whispers about his grades and slippage in the rankings.
Crazy stuff, but par for the course considering the source.
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I never like banking scholarships. They are one year contracts. I'd rather sign a winger for a year and hope he works out. If he doesn't, cut him. Sounds cold but that's how it is sometimes.
There's still a lot of time in 2015. If Henry doesn't work out, we can find and sign another quality recruit. If balancing the classes is truly a priority, I'd rather look for a graduate transfer who can help the program.
Schools are moving to four year guaranteed scholarships. I do not remember if MU weighed in on this, but I suspect there is no longer such a thing as one year contracts. The team still needs a good point guard, so I would use it on a good point guard if one is available. Otherwise, I would bank it.
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I never like banking scholarships. They are one year contracts. I'd rather sign a winger for a year and hope he works out. If he doesn't, cut him. Sounds cold but that's how it is sometimes.
There's still a lot of time in 2015. If Henry doesn't work out, we can find and sign another quality recruit. If balancing the classes is truly a priority, I'd rather look for a graduate transfer who can help the program.
It is not hard nowadays to find the 13th player for a squad. I am a believer that there is no way you can satisfy 13 kids with playing time. You only need to play 8-9 regularly so you have
4 unhappy players. I think 12 is enough. You can scrimmage in practice and you can figure 1 kid is hurt every year so you are still fine. Now if MU had the luxury this year, Cohen might be
one to red-shirt but with only 9 players on the team, I highly doubt it. If you recruit 4 top 100 kids next year, they all expect to play. Ellenson yes, Heldt will back up, Cheatham is not coming
to seat on the bench, nor NIck as well. Add the 2 transfers and you have 6 new players, add the 7 who all think they should start, you have competition. So if Henry does not come you have players. But reliable source stated he is coming.
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Schools are moving to four year guaranteed scholarships. I do not remember if MU weighed in on this, but I suspect there is no longer such a thing as one year contracts. The team still needs a good point guard, so I was use it on a good point guard if one is available. Otherwise, I would bank it.
The schools that have moved to this have tended to do so with their football scholarship and are exceptions, not the rule. Very few 4 year scholarships.
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It is not hard nowadays to find the 13th player for a squad. I am a believer that there is no way you can satisfy 13 kids with playing time. You only need to play 8-9 regularly so you have
4 unhappy players. I think 12 is enough. You can scrimmage in practice and you can figure 1 kid is hurt every year so you are still fine. Now if MU had the luxury this year, Cohen might be
one to red-shirt but with only 9 players on the team, I highly doubt it. If you recruit 4 top 100 kids next year, they all expect to play. Ellenson yes, Heldt will back up, Cheatham is not coming
to seat on the bench, nor NIck as well. Add the 2 transfers and you have 6 new players, add the 7 who all think they should start, you have competition. So if Henry does not come you have players. But reliable source stated he is coming.
Personally I don't care what players expect to play. If they aren't good enough to play, they should sit on the bench until they are good enough. If they don't like that than they can transfer to a lesser program. A good coach can keep players happy even when they are benched. That's why Wisconsin is so successful every season. Their player know that their playing time will be limited at first but they continue to improve. Our last coach wasn't good at this. I am hoping Wojo is.
On a related topic, I think the redshirt is way underutilized in basketball. Unless a freshman is going to be in the top 8 rotation, I think he should be redshirtted. Would be great for building quality teams over time. Unfortunately, it would hurt recruiting.
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Personally I don't care what players expect to play. If they aren't good enough to play, they should sit on the bench until they are good enough. If they don't like that than they can transfer to a lesser program. A good coach can keep players happy even when they are benched. That's why Wisconsin is so successful every season. Their player know that their playing time will be limited at first but they continue to improve. Our last coach wasn't good at this. I am hoping Wojo is.
On a related topic, I think the redshirt is way underutilized in basketball. Unless a freshman is going to be in the top 8 rotation, I think he should be redshirtted. Would be great for building quality teams over time. Unfortunately, it would hurt recruiting.
I agree with what you are saying, but moral is important. Redshirt, Wisconsin has utilized it, and has helped the players and the team. This year at MU impossible, next year, no Top 100
kid will want to redshirt. I do like transfers, as they have to sit for really a year and a half. Levin and Ellenson, should be interesting if they can improve. If they do, then the team is really
stacked in 2015.
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Hoping we're doing every possible thing to snag him.
I have it on good authority that Izzo was in Rice Lake today. Mich St clearly wants him bad.
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I didn't mean for that to sound like we aren't doing everything we can, because I know we are.
It just can't be fun to go up against Mich. St for a 5-star.
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Hoping we're doing every possible thing to snag him.
I have it on good authority that Izzo was in Rice Lake today. Mich St clearly wants him bad.
On Tuesday, the first day coaches could see recruits again, Wojo was in Rice Lake while Izzo was visiting Caleb. Hopefully that impresses Henry.
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Good News!
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I didn't mean for that to sound like we aren't doing everything we can, because I know we are.
It just can't be fun to go up against Mich. St for a 5-star.
Ellenson is a legit top five recruit. To get a guy like that, you need to go against the big boys. Whether it's MSU, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky or UNC. Goes with the territory.
I like what Wojo is doing and am confident he'll close the deal.
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You have 12 scholarship players for 2015, if Ellenson signs that is 13, if not hold 2016 so you will have 2 scholarships to hand out. Right now the classes are not in balance. Only 1 senior
in 2 years, Taylor. Will have 5 seniors in a few years, hard to replace classes like that. Not sure how many Division 1 players in Wisconsin in 2015 but Sam Hauser might be it. This year
was the best ever with Stone, Ellenson, and Heldt for big men ever. Transfers just like MU picking up 3 lately, are there every year, I would try and hold out 1 spring offer every year to
see who is out there.
IIRC, 1990 is the only other year with three stud bigs. Stone, Ellenson, and Heldt are better overall.
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Some interesting tweets from Caleb Swanigan:
Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan · Sep 8
Michigan state and Pitt coming in tomorrow
Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan · 22h
Some things change. Don't know if I feel the same way
Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan · 22h
Just really don't
Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan · 22h
Any way Missouri California and Iowa in tomorrow for in home visits
Caleb Swanigan @Biggs_Swanigan · 27m
In homes went great today
Hope he hasn't cooled on Michigan St.
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You have 12 scholarship players for 2015, if Ellenson signs that is 13, if not hold 2016 so you will have 2 scholarships to hand out. Right now the classes are not in balance. Only 1 senior
in 2 years, Taylor. Will have 5 seniors in a few years, hard to replace classes like that. Not sure how many Division 1 players in Wisconsin in 2015 but Sam Hauser might be it. This year
was the best ever with Stone, Ellenson, and Heldt for big men ever. Transfers just like MU picking up 3 lately, are there every year, I would try and hold out 1 spring offer every year to
see who is out there.
Is Ellenson a 4 year player if he does attend Marquette? I doubt it.
Is Deonte Burton a 4 year player? I don't think he is, no one could stop him last year except Buzz Williams.
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Is Deonte Burton a 4 year player? I don't think he is, no one could stop him last year except Buzz Williams.
And he couldn't stop anyone either.
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I dont know if Deonte has the size of an NBA player. Hes not really a shooting guard and 6'4 SF wont cut it in the NBA. I think Deonte will be here all 4 years.
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And he couldn't stop anyone either.
Neither could anyone else.
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I dont know if Deonte has the size of an NBA player. Hes not really a shooting guard and 6'4 SF wont cut it in the NBA. I think Deonte will be here all 4 years.
He will be unless he hires Vander's adviser. Or hires Vander as an adviser!
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I dont know if Deonte has the size of an NBA player. Hes not really a shooting guard and 6'4 SF wont cut it in the NBA. I think Deonte will be here all 4 years.
I think he is a better shooter than you are giving him credit for. His NBA position is shooting guard, but at 6'4" he is small even for that postion in the NBA. He should stay all four years and if he does he has a chance to be our first 2,000 point scorer.
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I know we've got a number of these threads up, but I'd just like to start one final (hopefully on topic) Henry Ellenson thread that we can use till he makes a decision.
Nope. It appears this thread is now about Burton.
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Nope. It appears this thread is now about Burton.
Didn't even take a full day
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http://www.freep.com/article/20140910/SPORTS07/309100193/michigan-state-basketball-recruiting (http://www.freep.com/article/20140910/SPORTS07/309100193/michigan-state-basketball-recruiting)
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I dont know if Deonte has the size of an NBA player. Hes not really a shooting guard and 6'4 SF wont cut it in the NBA. I think Deonte will be here all 4 years.
I'm not saying that Deonte is the next coming of Barkley but Charles was only 6'5" and was a PF and a great one at that. So its not all about the height its how you play the game. If he has a skill set that translates he will get a shot despite his height.
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I'm not saying that Deonte is the next coming of Barkley but Charles was only 6'5" and was a PF and a great one at that. So its not all about the height its how you play the game. If he has a skill set that translates he will get a shot despite his height.
6'5" when the average league height was problably lower than it is now. I would also guess that Barkely is at least two inches taller than Burton.
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No, actually it also applies to Henry. I've heard lots of talk about his "demanding" family, as well as a few whispers about his grades and slippage in the rankings.
Crazy stuff, but par for the course considering the source.
Talk to a lot of Gopher Fans. Can't escape them. Mom was on Gopher blogs and doing in-game tweets about Pitino's lineups, shot selection by other players and how her son should be in the game. They say there is a reason why Jr Pitino and Bo aren't going hard after Henry.
Jay Bee care to add?
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Burton will be on an NBA roster one day - whether after his junior year or senior year. Same might be true of Henry Ellenson as well (to bring back on topic.)
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Talk to a lot of Gopher Fans. Can't escape them. Mom was on Gopher blogs and doing in-game tweets about Pitino's lineups, shot selection by other players and how her son should be in the game. They say there is a reason why Jr Pitino and Bo aren't going hard after Henry.
Jay Bee care to add?
Yes - Because they know they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of landing him. Duh.
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Yes - Because they know they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of landing him. Duh.
Becky might be losing its grip on Sharma too.
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6'5" when the average league height was problably lower than it is now. I would also guess that Barkely is at least two inches taller than Burton.
Actually NBA average height has been at 6'7" since 1980-81 season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html)
And Barkley in his own book said he was only 6'4". He has been listed as tal as 6'6" during playing days. Not sure what Burton's height actually is.
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Talk to a lot of Gopher Fans. Can't escape them. Mom was on Gopher blogs and doing in-game tweets about Pitino's lineups, shot selection by other players and how her son should be in the game. They say there is a reason why Jr Pitino and Bo aren't going hard after Henry.
Jay Bee care to add?
There are concerns about his parent's involvement level. I have no idea if they are legitimate concerns or not.
Minnesota stood no chance with Henry as soon as Wally left. But I can tell you for a fact that Bo was watching Henry this summer. If they cooled on him earlier, they were certainly back and trying to get in the picture just weeks ago. So don't listen to the bullsh*t from Badger fans that Bo had no interest.
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Burton will be on an NBA roster one day - whether after his junior year or senior year. Same might be true of Henry Ellenson as well (to bring back on topic.)
Hope your crystal ball is right on Burton. He's an amazing, explosive athlete. He's also very undisciplined on both ends of the court, has a loose handle and for a 6'2.5" guy he doesn't shoot it all that well. Maturity and hard work can wipe out all the negatives except the 6'2.5" part.
Who knows with Ellenson - he sure has all of the measurables. As a consensus top 10 guy out of HS he's certainly a "favorite" to make the NBA.
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So don't listen to the bullsh*t from Badger fans that Bo had no interest.
But I'm sure Bo will cool on him eventually. ;)
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What's with the talk about Burton being only 6'2.5"? Is he shrinking? He was listed at 6'5" in high school. He certainly plays like 6'5".
But, enough, this is supposed to be about Henry. As I recall, we heard he may announce his choice in two weeks? Does anyone have an update on that?
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What's with the talk about Burton being only 6'2.5"? Is he shrinking? He was listed at 6'5" in high school. He certainly plays like 6'5".
But, enough, this is supposed to be about Henry. As I recall, we heard he may announce his choice in two weeks? Does anyone have an update on that?
He's visiting MSU next weekend. Marquette the weekend after.
He hosted Wojo on the very first day Wojo could visit earlier this week. Apparently Calipari was up there yesterday, although I don't believe an official visit has been scheduled to Kentucky.
So I would guess that we will hear in early October UNLESS something gets scheduled with Kentucky. The longer we hear about no official visit to Kentucky the better.
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Talk to a lot of Gopher Fans. Can't escape them. Mom was on Gopher blogs and doing in-game tweets about Pitino's lineups, shot selection by other players and how her son should be in the game. They say there is a reason why Jr Pitino and Bo aren't going hard after Henry.
Jay Bee care to add?
If I'm a UW fan and Bo in fact stopped recruiting the #4 player in the country because of a potentially overbearing mother, I'd be pissed.
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If I'm a UW fan and Bo in fact stopped recruiting the #4 player in the country because of a potentially overbearing mother, I'd be pissed.
Doubt that was the case, just didn't want to there
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Hope your crystal ball is right on Burton. He's an amazing, explosive athlete. He's also very undisciplined on both ends of the court, has a loose handle and for a 6'2.5" guy he doesn't shoot it all that well. Maturity and hard work can wipe out all the negatives except the 6'2.5" part.
Who knows with Ellenson - he sure has all of the measurables. As a consensus top 10 guy out of HS he's certainly a "favorite" to make the NBA.
Doesn't shoot it all that well? 50% from 3 point line - although small sample size of 8 attempts. Why I'm so bullish on him, is because he doesn't have to launch 3's to score at all...he's so powerful and explosive that he can get to the rack almost at will..and shoot from point blank. Last year he had numerous looks close in at the basket roll off...that he rushed slightly. This year I see those going in.
Regarding "undisciplined," that isn't always a bad thing. When you are a go to go...which Burton is, and always will be while at MU - why should he not launch shots at a high rate? Do you want a Kobe Bryant, or Michael Jordan being "disciplined" in their shot selection?
We can make another wager if you like on if Burton gets drafted....
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Doesn't shoot it all that well? 50% from 3 point line - although small sample size of 8 attempts. Why I'm so bullish on him, is because he doesn't have to launch 3's to score at all...he's so powerful and explosive that he can get to the rack almost at will..and shoot from point blank. Last year he had numerous looks close in at the basket roll off...that he rushed slightly. This year I see those going in.
Regarding "undisciplined," that isn't always a bad thing. When you are a go to go...which Burton is, and always will be while at MU - why should he not launch shots at a high rate? Do you want a Kobe Bryant, or Michael Jordan being "disciplined" in their shot selection?
We can make another wager if you like on if Burton gets drafted....
No, he doesn't shoot it all that well - 64.7% from the free throw line tells you that, and his mid range shooting last year wasn't all that great.
When "undisciplined" = a 1:1.6 assist to turnover ratio it's a bad thing. Comparing Deonte to the greatest player ever and another in the top 10 is ridiculous, but if you must, do you think Michael or Kobe ever put up that kind of ratio?
I like Deonte. He's a unique and dynamic player. I wouldn't bet against him. But I won't call his faults "strengths" because he's Michael or Kobe. That's silly, and I think Wojo will agree. Here's a bet I will make - Burton will never again launch it at the rate he did last year. Interested?
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There are concerns about his parent's involvement level. I have no idea if they are legitimate concerns or not.
I hope those parental involvements are as nefarious and problematic as Wes' mother should he choose to commit to Marquette, with equal success on the court.
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What's with the talk about Burton being only 6'2.5"? Is he shrinking? He was listed at 6'5" in high school. He certainly plays like 6'5".
Players' heights are commonly over listed. Burton is currently listed at 6"4. I have stood next to him. I am taller than him at 6"3.
But he does play like he is 6"5
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Players' heights are commonly over listed. Burton is currently listed at 6"4. I have stood next to him. I am taller than him at 6"3.
But he does play like he is 6"5
TAMU, you're are getting older and people have been know shrink as they age...maybe you aren't 6'3" anymore ;D
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Players' heights are commonly over listed. Burton is currently listed at 6"4. I have stood next to him. I am taller than him at 6"3.
But he does play like he is 6"5
Tamu,
I admire many of your posts very much, but I am going to have to disagree with your last one.
My wife took a picture of Deonte and me standing next to eachother, posing at the camera. I am 6 foot 2 inches and he was at least two inches taller. In fact, I just pulled up the picture on my phone and looked at it. He is a legit 6-4.
A couple of other facts -
he was enormous - built like a linebacker,
and he was incredibly pleasant, polite and respectful. The kid was raised very well.
He is going to be easy to root for.
Best to all
Moomoo
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Burton will be on an NBA roster one day - whether after his junior year or senior year. Same might be true of Henry Ellenson as well (to bring back on topic.)
I wish I could be as certain about any one thing in life as you are about all manner of things.
You've watched Burton play an extremely small sampling of minutes at the college level, yet you know for a fact he WILL be an NBA player.
I, on the other hand, see some potential and wonder about his size translating to the next level. Oh, and I'd like to see him ... I don't know ... start a few college games before guaranteeing him an NBA career.
I do congratulate you on your rare restraint when it comes to Henry. Maybe you're waiting for him to sign with us before saying he's a lead-pipe cinch to be the next Dirk?
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TAMU, you're are getting older and people have been know shrink as they age...maybe you aren't 6'3" anymore ;D
I hope I'm not shrinking at 25, lol. But that would make Deonte even shorter. Maybe I grew an inch.
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He is going to be easy to root for.
Best to all
Moomoo
He IS easy to root for.
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No, he doesn't shoot it all that well - 64.7% from the free throw line tells you that, and his mid range shooting last year wasn't all that great.
When "undisciplined" = a 1:1.6 assist to turnover ratio it's a bad thing. Comparing Deonte to the greatest player ever and another in the top 10 is ridiculous, but if you must, do you think Michael or Kobe ever put up that kind of ratio?
I like Deonte. He's a unique and dynamic player. I wouldn't bet against him. But I won't call his faults "strengths" because he's Michael or Kobe. That's silly, and I think Wojo will agree. Here's a bet I will make - Burton will never again launch it at the rate he did last year. Interested?
It's rather ironic to me that you call into question a 64% FT shooter, while advocating all of last season how a 43% FT shooter, and 7% 3pt shooter was a MUCH better option than a guy who shoots 81% from FT line and 28% from the 3. LOL.
What you seem to fail to understand is that you WANT your best players shooting the ball the most, and at the highest rate. It isn't a BAD thing at all...nor is it "undisciplined," nor does the concept of undisciplined correlate to citing an assist to turnover ration. Nor do you understand that when you are a player who can get a shot off anytime he wants - it also is a little different ball game - than it is for a guy who cannot create his own shot.
Will be interesting to see if Deonte's usage goes down this season - don't think that's a lock necessarily - but given that he'll be playing more minutes, AND likely won't be hamstrung by playing with 2 guys who can't score the ball at the guard position - it won't be as imperative for him to launch shots, as it was last season.
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It's rather ironic to me that you call into question a 64% FT shooter, while advocating all of last season how a 43% FT shooter, and 7% 3pt shooter was a MUCH better option than a guy who shoots 81% from FT line and 28% from the 3. LOL.
Only irony is that you don't know what irony means. If I had said that Derrick deserved to play because he was a good shooter but said Burton wasn't a good enough shooter to play that might be ironic. Acknowledging that Derrick was a horrible shooter but saying he was a better all around choice than Dawson (what I said) and saying that a 64% free throw shooting wasn't all that good for an off guard or a 3 in the freaking NBA (what I also said) are both true and have absolutely no connection to one another, ironic or otherwise. But thanks anyway for making a connection that didn't 't exist - it was important and insightful for you to remind us of Derrick's FT and 3ptFG percentages last year for the 783rd time. It adds so much to the discussion even under those circumstances.
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So......Henry Ellenson -- I hear he's a good shooter.
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So......Henry Ellenson -- I hear he's a good shooter.
So ive heard
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So......Henry Ellenson -- I hear he's a good shooter.
Traditionally, he has been regarded as such.
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It's rather ironic to me that you call into question a 64% FT shooter, while advocating all of last season how a 43% FT shooter, and 7% 3pt shooter was a MUCH better option than a guy who shoots 81% from FT line and 28% from the 3. LOL.
What you seem to fail to understand is that you WANT your best players shooting the ball the most, and at the highest rate. It isn't a BAD thing at all...nor is it "undisciplined," nor does the concept of undisciplined correlate to citing an assist to turnover ration. Nor do you understand that when you are a player who can get a shot off anytime he wants - it also is a little different ball game - than it is for a guy who cannot create his own shot.
Will be interesting to see if Deonte's usage goes down this season - don't think that's a lock necessarily - but given that he'll be playing more minutes, AND likely won't be hamstrung by playing with 2 guys who can't score the ball at the guard position - it won't be as imperative for him to launch shots, as it was last season.
Those two things are not AT ALL related in the context of this conversation.
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Those two things are not AT ALL related in the context of this conversation.
If it makes me LOL, is it related?
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I wish I could be as certain about any one thing in life as you are about all manner of things.
You've watched Burton play an extremely small sampling of minutes at the college level, yet you know for a fact he WILL be an NBA player.
I, on the other hand, see some potential and wonder about his size translating to the next level. Oh, and I'd like to see him ... I don't know ... start a few college games before guaranteeing him an NBA career.
I do congratulate you on your rare restraint when it comes to Henry. Maybe you're waiting for him to sign with us before saying he's a lead-pipe cinch to be the next Dirk?
Ners played HS basketball. Give him the respect he is due!
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Ners played HS basketball. Give him the respect he is due!
Spot on. Plus, he played at the Rec with some D1 ballerz.
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Ners played HS basketball. Give him the respect he is due!
THanks ATL - much appreciated. (Hopefully you don't need teal to detect the sarcasm?) It is hard at times to post on a board where so many guys never played the game at even the high school level, but instead are wrestlers, members of the band, etc. It generally is very clear which posters have played the game at a decent level, and which of you haven't. I just need to remember to avoid engaging with those who haven't. I'll see what I can do. Yet hard to do when you see an idiotic posts made...and last season of course was a beating with Buzz's defenders (most of whom never played the game beyond 5th grade) suggesting he was making the right coaching decisions.
And we all saw how last year turned out! Was evident to anyone with a clue that what Buzz was doing as of Late November was going to be a disaster. The good news, bringing it back to Ellenson is that we didn't stand a chance of getting him if Buzz was here. Go Wojo.
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Spot on. Plus, he played at the Rec with some D1 ballerz.
And you? What were you doing Wades? FYI - Playing basketball on your XBox doesn't count.
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THanks ATL - much appreciated. (Hopefully you don't need teal to detect the sarcasm?) It is hard at times to post on a board where so many guys never played the game at even the high school level, but instead are wrestlers, members of the band, etc. It generally is very clear which posters have played the game at a decent level, and which of you haven't. I just need to remember to avoid engaging with those who haven't. I'll see what I can do. Yet hard to do when you see an idiotic posts made...and last season of course was a beating with Buzz's defenders (most of whom never played the game beyond 5th grade) suggesting he was making the right coaching decisions.
And we all saw how last year turned out! Was evident to anyone with a clue that what Buzz was doing as of Late November was going to be a disaster. The good news, bringing it back to Ellenson is that we didn't stand a chance of getting him if Buzz was here. Go Wojo.
This is a perfect example of why you are so much fun to provoke. Just breathe man.
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This is a perfect example of why you are so much fun to provoke. Just breathe man.
Haha. Seeing his responses in quotes is hilarious. Almost makes me want to take him off ignore, but avoiding the Derrick threads (and threads not intended to be about Derrick that he has turned into Derrick threads) is too nice. Makes Scoop much more enjoyable.
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Ners has become a parody of Ners.
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I hear Henry has some nice shoes.
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I hear Henry has some nice shoes.
He's from Rice Lake donchaknow. I wonder if he's sampled the Norske Nook pie.
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Ya der hey. I hear you can get some nice pie near tirdee tird and kinnikinnick.
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Why do I have a feeling ners is a middle-aged...tool?
I'll bet the house. Any takers?
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Why do I have a feeling ners is a middle-aged...tool?
I'll bet the house. Any takers?
Actually hes Derrick Wilson.
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You guys can lay off the guy, Jesus. Everyone hates on Ners every thread I see him in. Sure, he's wrong sometimes. But he's also right sometimes.
And though he may have only played at the high school level he is right. You can tell when someone has only played half-court games of 3 on 3 and when someone has played at even a semi-competitive level.
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You guys can lay off the guy, Jesus. Everyone hates on Ners every thread I see him in. Sure, he's wrong sometimes. But he's also right sometimes.
And though he may have only played at the high school level he is right. You can tell when someone has only played half-court games of 3 on 3 and when someone has played at even a semi-competitive level.
I support ners
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You guys can lay off the guy, Jesus. Everyone hates on Ners every thread I see him in. Sure, he's wrong sometimes. But he's also right sometimes.
And though he may have only played at the high school level he is right. You can tell when someone has only played half-court games of 3 on 3 and when someone has played at even a semi-competitive level.
Haha. Ners has only himself to blame for that.
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Why do I have a feeling ners is a middle-aged...tool?
I'll bet the house. Any takers?
This post was pretty...toolish
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Ya der hey. I hear you can get some nice pie near tirdee tird and kinnikinnick.
Really? Where?
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I played basketball on an intramural team in grad school. That means I know more than undergraduate athletes right?
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THanks ATL - much appreciated. (Hopefully you don't need teal to detect the sarcasm?) It is hard at times to post on a board where so many guys never played the game at even the high school level, but instead are wrestlers, members of the band, etc. It generally is very clear which posters have played the game at a decent level, and which of you haven't. I just need to remember to avoid engaging with those who haven't. I'll see what I can do. Yet hard to do when you see an idiotic posts made...and last season of course was a beating with Buzz's defenders (most of whom never played the game beyond 5th grade) suggesting he was making the right coaching decisions.
Don't hate on athletes. The fact is that you should take an elite wrestler, soccer player, track star whatever over a marginal basketball player's opinion any day. This is because there are certain fundamental skills that people innately know and others don't. It's what separates the best athletes from ok ones. Normally I agree with the majority of your points despite not having the time nor inclination to come to your defense in all the posts but i've got to agree with the way this board is going in that you take things a bit too seriously and are in danger of essentially becoming the non political version of chicos.
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Why do I have a feeling ners is a middle-aged...tool?
I'll bet the house. Any takers?
How do I know you are a middle aged tool? Umm...perhaps this awesome post you served up recently:
24 MUScoop / Hangin' at the Al / Re: Barney's home for sale. on: July 29, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
meh. buzz's old pad has white trash written all over it. of course it is going to take an athlete to buy that place. duh.
i know the house and the neighborhood. not worth the price tag. the lot sucks. I'd rather live in Frank Brickowski's old neighborhood than Buzz's; Id rather live closer to the lake.
Actually, ill take Fox Point and River Hills over his address any day. Speaking of Fox Point.... it brings back old school memories of TP'ing Bud Selig's house while pounding cans of Pabst. The good old days....
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Don't hate on athletes. The fact is that you should take an elite wrestler, soccer player, track star whatever over a marginal basketball player's opinion any day. This is because there are certain fundamental skills that people innately know and others don't. It's what separates the best athletes from ok ones. Normally I agree with the majority of your points despite not having the time nor inclination to come to your defense in all the posts but i've got to agree with the way this board is going in that you take things a bit too seriously and are in danger of essentially becoming the non political version of chicos.
I don't hate on athletes - at all. I'm not sure what your point here was - but if you are suggesting that we have elite level wrestlers, soccer players and track stars posting here - and that by virtue of them being "elite" in their sport - they know more about the game of basketball - that they've likely spent very little time playing - I'm confused.
I can assure you, that I would never form opinions or make comments suggesting I had a clue what I was talking about when it comes to wrestling, track, soccer, boxing, baseball - as I never participated in those sports beyond an 8th grade level.
As for taking things too seriously, not really - just don't care to give the 5-7 adversaries here a free pass on their idiotic posts. Though I will try to do a better job and not respond to the idiocy and just realize that they simply don't know any better.
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God damn. What a disaster.
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God damn. What a disaster.
This was an appropriate use of your one post. It is indeed a disaster.
Let's get back on track. For everyone else's sake. I surely hope that Mark Miller's feeling is right. I think k Wojo has established the right connections and fostered the right feel for the program that it will be a strong draw for the Ellenson family and their unsigned son. I can only hope that the work put in so far is enough to weather the storm.
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Why do I have a feeling ners is a middle-aged...tool?
I'll bet the house. Any takers?
You seem to be an expert on tools. Middle aged--as opposed to yuppie tools? Or Occupy Wall Street tools? Or political tool? Or jock tool? And so on.
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Just so you know, I support ners
Completely and don't care what he posts. A mU fan is a freind of mine.
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I like both of them, but Ners is like a young Murf who continuously argued that Diener was a dime a dozen point guard. They both get on topics and never give up on them.
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As for taking things too seriously, not really - just don't care to give the 5-7 adversaries here a free pass on their idiotic posts. Though I will try to do a better job and not respond to the idiocy and just realize that they simply don't know any better.
No one here is your "adversary." I guess part of the problem is that you view it that way.
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This was an appropriate use of your one post. It is indeed a disaster.
Let's get back on track. For everyone else's sake. I surely hope that Mark Miller's feeling is right. I think k Wojo has established the right connections and fostered the right feel for the program that it will be a strong draw for the Ellenson family and their unsigned son. I can only hope that the work put in so far is enough to weather the storm.
The more I look at where recruiting is with the 3 schools and Ellenson, the more confident I am with Marquette landing him.
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Having a different perspective does not make one an adversary. Choosing to believe anyone who dares disagree with you is an adversary makes them an adversary in your mind. And only in your mind. Choosing to then post as if anyone who sees things differently is an adversary who must be defeated and that you can win by posting the same thing 1000 different times........
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Nice try Jake and Crew. It looks like Ners isn't the only one who can't help replying :(
Izzo's interest and Henry's visit to MSU kinda gives me pause especially with Swanigan looking like he has broadened his suitor list and isn't a #donedeal for MSU.
Enjoying a nice Premier League game on this nice cool September morning :D
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Ellenson, Swanigan and Mcquaid all visiting MSU same weekend. spartan Stadium has been upgraded again and they now have a "recruiting center"in the stadium. The place will get pretty loud and fun when the Spartans are romping. I think MSU is our biggest competitor on this recruit.
I think Duane and Nick will have to work hard to help Wojo land Henry :)
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One thing that has given me pause in the past couple of days is that MSU let Trevor Manuel commit to Oregon. Manuel is a 4 star PF from East Lansing. From what I have heard, the kid would have sold his left nut to be a Spartan. Izzo was content letting him slip away. Shows to me that Izzo knows exactly who he wants. If Ellenson is still on the list, than he is a priority.
That being said, I am still confident that Henry will be a Warrior.
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Ellenson, Swanigan and Mcquaid all visiting MSU same weekend. spartan Stadium has been upgraded again and they now have a "recruiting center"in the stadium. The place will get pretty loud and fun when the Spartans are romping. I think MSU is our biggest competitor on this recruit.
I think Duane and Nick will have to work hard to help Wojo land Henry :)
Don't forget Duane's dad, Ike, was also his AAU coach this past summer. I am hoping for the best, but I don't know if it's a Swanigan or Ellenson scenario for MSU as some are portraying. They are totally different players, and dare I say, complement each other. And although I didn't watch every USA-17 game, I recall them being on the floor together frequently.
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Ellenson, Swanigan and Mcquaid all visiting MSU same weekend. spartan Stadium has been upgraded again and they now have a "recruiting center"in the stadium. The place will get pretty loud and fun when the Spartans are romping. I think MSU is our biggest competitor on this recruit.
I think Duane and Nick will have to work hard to help Wojo land Henry :)
This is an obstacle we have always failed to overcome...but eventually need to overcome if we ever want to be elite again. We've got to go head to head with the big boys for recruits and overcome some of the natural advantages they have over us.
I think this is the time we do it.
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Ellenson, Swanigan and Mcquaid all visiting MSU same weekend. spartan Stadium has been upgraded again and they now have a "recruiting center"in the stadium. The place will get pretty loud and fun when the Spartans are romping. I think MSU is our biggest competitor on this recruit.
I think Duane and Nick will have to work hard to help Wojo land Henry :)
Maybe his brother could help too...
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Having a different perspective does not make one an adversary. Choosing to believe anyone who dares disagree with you is an adversary makes them an adversary in your mind. And only in your mind. Choosing to then post as if anyone who sees things differently is an adversary who must be defeated and that you can win by posting the same thing 1000 different times........
And it's the perspective a 4 year old has, which is why this is all so funny. Makes the same argument over, and over, and over, and over, and over. Can. Not. Lose. Or. Let. Go. His argument is more or less, "Buzz sucked you're wrong." No matter what facts are presented, and when people presents those facts he then turns to, "I used to be able to dunk, played in high school, and 'balled' with the Marquette players at the Rec. I'm right. You don't know anything." This is an "adult" making arguments like this. Kind of sad. My brother who's a freshman at MUHS can argue points more logically than he can. In fact, I'd guess any freshman at MUHS could.
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Ellenson will be a Warrior. Book it.
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This is an obstacle we have always failed to overcome...but eventually need to overcome if we ever want to be elite again. We've got to go head to head with the big boys for recruits and overcome some of the natural advantages they have over us.
I think this is the time we do it.
I agree TAMU. Wojo has the pedigree to play in the sand box with the blue bloods. Gotta duke (no pun intended) it out with the elites. Wojo knows the drill very well and of any coach we have had in the last several decades, understands what it takes. If we land Henry then the next one will be a little easier. On the other hand, if he goes elsewhere, no shame is losing out to MSU or UK.
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And it's the perspective a 4 year old has, which is why this is all so funny. Makes the same argument over, and over, and over, and over, and over. Can. Not. Lose. Or. Let. Go. His argument is more or less, "Buzz sucked you're wrong." No matter what facts are presented, and when people presents those facts he then turns to, "I used to be able to dunk, played in high school, and 'balled' with the Marquette players at the Rec. I'm right. You don't know anything." This is an "adult" making arguments like this. Kind of sad. My brother who's a freshman at MUHS can argue points more logically than he can. In fact, I'd guess any freshman at MUHS could.
As I said, I simply need to stop engaging with guys who have no idea about playing the game other than on XBox/Playstation - of course you being one of them. There was plenty of evidence Buzz sucked last year. And I've presented plenty of facts to back that fact up, along with the other couple of reasons why the team was awful last year. Guys like you point to Jamil and Davante not showing "leadership," as the reason the team struggled. We had another idiot here who eventually had to leave the board, who offered up the genius analysis in my signature.
What is sad is that despite having ample evidence of being wrong all of last season, you and the handful of others simply can't acknowledge how flawed your position was last year. 17-15. Missed the NIT. IN a season we were predicted to WIN THe Big East, and returned more experience than ever before in Buzz's tenure.
And that shows all the maturity of a 4 year old.
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As I said, I simply need to stop engaging with guys who have no idea about playing the game other than on XBox/Playstation - of course you being one of them. There was plenty of evidence Buzz sucked last year. And I've presented plenty of facts to back that fact up, along with the other couple of reasons why the team was awful last year. Guys like you point to Jamil and Davante not showing "leadership," as the reason the team struggled. We had another idiot here who eventually had to leave the board, who offered up the genius analysis in my signature.
What is sad is that despite having ample evidence of being wrong all of last season, you and the handful of others simply can't acknowledge how flawed your position was last year. 17-15. Missed the NIT. IN a season we were predicted to WIN THe Big East, and returned more experience than ever before in Buzz's tenure.
And that shows all the maturity of a 4 year old.
Ners, I agree with you that Buzz did a piss poor job of coaching. A certain point guard played the whole year who was probably the worst point guard in Division 1, at least shooting wise.
Should have played or brought back Duane Wilson or started John Dawson from the start. But that was last year. Lets see how Wojo handles the 10 players he has this year as he still has
2 pretty bad players in that group from last year. I do not care how many shots Derrick put up this summer, bad shooter normally still is a bad shooter. I hope he plays young as in 2 years
with the young kids and the recruits and transfers he has, might have the best team in years at MU. They will have size and quickness abound.
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I agree TAMU. Wojo has the pedigree to play in the sand box with the blue bloods. Gotta duke (no pun intended) it out with the elites. Wojo knows the drill very well and of any coach we have had in the last several decades, understands what it takes. If we land Henry then the next one will be a little easier. On the other hand, if he goes elsewhere, no shame is losing out to MSU or UK.
No shame, but we're left holdin' our johnsons, aina?
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As I said, I simply need to stop engaging with guys who have no idea about playing the game other than on XBox/Playstation - of course you being one of them. There was plenty of evidence Buzz sucked last year. And I've presented plenty of facts to back that fact up, along with the other couple of reasons why the team was awful last year. Guys like you point to Jamil and Davante not showing "leadership," as the reason the team struggled. We had another idiot here who eventually had to leave the board, who offered up the genius analysis in my signature.
What is sad is that despite having ample evidence of being wrong all of last season, you and the handful of others simply can't acknowledge how flawed your position was last year. 17-15. Missed the NIT. IN a season we were predicted to WIN THe Big East, and returned more experience than ever before in Buzz's tenure.
And that shows all the maturity of a 4 year old.
Thought that part needed to be bolded. The term "ironic" had been brought up before in this thread, right?
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Ellenson will be a Warrior. Book it.
Ellenson will be a Warrior. Book it.
Bold move, E-Chili. Bold move.
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Don't forget Duane's dad, Ike, was also his AAU coach this past summer. I am hoping for the best, but I don't know if it's a Swanigan or Ellenson scenario for MSU as some are portraying. They are totally different players, and dare I say, complement each other. And although I didn't watch every USA-17 game, I recall them being on the floor together frequently.
And you as well, Freeport-E.
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Bold move, E-Chili. Bold move.
What say you LloydEllensonslegs?
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Thought that part needed to be bolded. The term "ironic" had been brought up before in this thread, right?
I guess you could say it is ironic that I did engage with one of them. Beyond that? No irony present. Feel free to PM me if you have other comments you'd like to share off topic.
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What say you LloydEllensonslegs?
If only Lloyd had Henry's legs. That body with those hops? Shaq + Dwight Howard.
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One thing that has given me pause in the past couple of days is that MSU let Trevor Manuel commit to Oregon. Manuel is a 4 star PF from East Lansing. From what I have heard, the kid would have sold his left nut to be a Spartan. Izzo was content letting him slip away. Shows to me that Izzo knows exactly who he wants. If Ellenson is still on the list, than he is a priority.
That being said, I am still confident that Henry will be a Warrior.
Trevor Manuel is a very relevant comparison to the situation we face with Ellenson. Manuel was a home town kid who played in high school with two kids on the MSU team. So he had all the ties etc. He had a fantastic recruiting weekend at Oregon, where he felt he had a good connection with the team and liked the environment and then cancelled the rest of his officials and committed to Oregon. It is very easy to get caught up in the recruiting process and make emotional decisions.
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What say you LloydEllensonslegs?
Alright Chili, I'll join you in your optimism.
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Alright Chili, I'll join you in your optimism.
Legs??????
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Oh why not.
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Not sure if it's worth mentioning but A.J. Turner just committed to Boston College. He was a top 100 wing who was considered a solid Michigan State lean for awhile. With Turner coming off the board, it only leaves Caleb Swanigan, Eric Davis (who is announcing Tuesday), Matt McQuaid, and Ellenson as solid targets for Izzo.
Basically, we are not going to win this because Michigan State decided to spend their schollies elsewhere. If he wants Ellenson, Wojo is going to have to outrecruit Izzo, plain and simple. Next weekend is the last hurdle. If Henry gets through his official visit to East Lansing without a commit, I think we've got him.
To be clear, I am confident that Wojo has got this. But I will feel better after next weekend.
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Found this today: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2195410-kentucky-basketball-surveying-wildcats-chances-with-top-2015-recruits/page/7
Obviously, it's bleacher report, but they think we are getting Henry
Power Forward; 6'10", 230 pounds; Rice Lake, Wisconsin
247Sports' Composite Rankings: No. 10 overall, No. 4 PF
Current List: Top Three (Kentucky, Marquette, Michigan State)
According to 247Sports' experts, brotherly love carries a lot of weight for Wisconsin big man Henry Ellenson.
Of the 25 analysts currently picking Marquette as Ellenson's final destination, 21 of them came in for the Golden Eagles after July 2, when it was announced that Ellenson's older brother Wally was leaving Minnesota for Marquette. One expert's lonely vote for Minnesota still hangs on the board like a long-neglected flier advertising guitar lessons.
Ellenson hosted all three of his finalists for home visits this week—per Ben Roberts of the Lexington Herald-Leader—and Big Blue Nation may not be totally out of this battle.
Ellenson not only has his brother waiting for him at Marquette—where their father John also played college ball—but also AAU teammates Matt Heldt and Nick Noskowiak, who has launched a one-man social media blitz to help new coach Steve Wojciechowski assemble his 2015 class.
In an interview posted by WTVQ Lexington's Alex Risen, Ellenson lists coaches' development skills and style of play as key factors. His offensive versatility is not unlike that of current UK freshman Karl Towns, but Ellenson is expected to announce his decision before getting a good look at how Calipari will use Towns.
Still, few coaches develop elite talents as quickly as Calipari. Michigan State coach Tom Izzo's big men have frequently been long-term contributors, but versatile scorers such as Adreian Payne and Draymond Green offer useful templates for how Ellenson may produce in East Lansing.
While Marquette has a lot going for it, the race isn't over quite yet.
Kentucky Confidence: 3/10
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If we don't get Ellenson, it's my fault you guys. I was too overconfident about it at the bar. My bad.
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Found this today: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2195410-kentucky-basketball-surveying-wildcats-chances-with-top-2015-recruits/page/7
Obviously, it's bleacher report, but they think we are getting Henry
Power Forward; 6'10", 230 pounds; Rice Lake, Wisconsin
247Sports' Composite Rankings: No. 10 overall, No. 4 PF
Current List: Top Three (Kentucky, Marquette, Michigan State)
According to 247Sports' experts, brotherly love carries a lot of weight for Wisconsin big man Henry Ellenson.
Of the 25 analysts currently picking Marquette as Ellenson's final destination, 21 of them came in for the Golden Eagles after July 2, when it was announced that Ellenson's older brother Wally was leaving Minnesota for Marquette. One expert's lonely vote for Minnesota still hangs on the board like a long-neglected flier advertising guitar lessons.
Ellenson hosted all three of his finalists for home visits this week—per Ben Roberts of the Lexington Herald-Leader—and Big Blue Nation may not be totally out of this battle.
Ellenson not only has his brother waiting for him at Marquette—where their father John also played college ball—but also AAU teammates Matt Heldt and Nick Noskowiak, who has launched a one-man social media blitz to help new coach Steve Wojciechowski assemble his 2015 class.
In an interview posted by WTVQ Lexington's Alex Risen, Ellenson lists coaches' development skills and style of play as key factors. His offensive versatility is not unlike that of current UK freshman Karl Towns, but Ellenson is expected to announce his decision before getting a good look at how Calipari will use Towns.
Still, few coaches develop elite talents as quickly as Calipari. Michigan State coach Tom Izzo's big men have frequently been long-term contributors, but versatile scorers such as Adreian Payne and Draymond Green offer useful templates for how Ellenson may produce in East Lansing.
While Marquette has a lot going for it, the race isn't over quite yet.
Kentucky Confidence: 3/10
To be honest, I normally ignore any sort of Kentucky fan analysis. They think they are getting EVERYONE. I mean that is semi-justified but it also normally comes off as arrogant and lacking in actual facts. It's normally something more like "muh great Calipari recruiting" whereas other people normally analyze visits and offers. They just simply think no matter what if Kentucky wants a guy they get him no questions asked.
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To be honest, I normally ignore any sort of Kentucky fan analysis. They think they are getting EVERYONE. I mean that is semi-justified but it also normally comes off as arrogant and lacking in actual facts. It's normally something more like "muh great Calipari recruiting" whereas other people normally analyze visits and offers. They just simply think no matter what if Kentucky wants a guy they get him no questions asked.
Agreed, which is why when one of their analysts says they are probably not getting somebody I know they are really far from signing the kid ;D
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Feel free to PM me if you have other comments you'd like to share off topic.
Oh, the irony....only because your 570000000 previous posts were totally on topic.
I was amused before...I am amused even moreso. Apparently, I'm a 28 year old middle aged guy.
I hope the ignore function works. See ya.
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Is it possible that the Kentucky model is a little less attractive these days with the somewhat unexpected retention of so many of last year's players? When this year's freshmen committed, I have to believe they thought there would be greater roster turnover and therefore more playing time available. Less turnover = less playing time available for some freshman (probably) = unhappy benchwarming for highly ranked players. Is that going to make members of the class of 2015 a little wary about what Calipari can deliver?
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Legs??????
And I lit a candle this morning.
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And I lit a candle this morning.
NOW it is a lock.
Scoop, get on the bandwagon. Ners, Sultan, Chicos, Lenny,Topper, Rocky????? Big Daddy? Keefe, when you get back from "vacation" :o !!!!!
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If you're the top echelon recruits and you come to UK and spend more than 1yr there, you wonder if they almost feel out of place or feel like a loser because you didn't bounce to the league right away. I'm sure the kids Cal brings in have plenty of confidence in themselves but if you don't hit the ground running I wonder if they feel like or Cal feels like they are taking up a spot on the roster he could better utilize? If someone wants to be an alpha dog on a team I would think you can go anywhere and be the man. NBA scouts have to project more with kids out if UK because the loaded roster doesn't allow you as much opportunity so the sample size is smaller. Bet on yourself, go to a program where you're the man, you can show off your skills and hopefully make those around you better. Of course, I'm biased and want HE to come to MU but I bet coaches use a pitch like that to sway kids.
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Savwa, an example of what you are talking about is Alex Poythress. At one point Marquette was pretty high on his list, but after a strong summer he shot way up the rankings and came into Kentucky as part of their 2012 class. He was pretty much a disappointment as a freshman, grew as a player as a sophomore, and has come back for his junior year. He likely would have been a second round pick in the draft.
I don't think Cal put any pressure on him to leave. Now does he regret going to Kentucky when he could have been an alpha dog elsewhere? Who knows. One could argue that "betting on yourself" could mean shooting as high as you can go and prove that you can compete. But I think regardless, each person and each player is different.
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NOW it is a lock.
Scoop, get on the bandwagon. Ners, Sultan, Chicos, Lenny,Topper, Rocky????? Big Daddy? Keefe, when you get back from "vacation" :o !!!!!
Can't think of a finer cause and Scoop movement to support. Great idea EllensonChili83.
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Can't think of a finer cause and Scoop movement to support. Great idea EllensonChili83.
Probably my favorite scoop movement. I've had a good chuckle at some of the names.
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Probably my favorite scoop movement. I've had a good chuckle at some of the names.
Count me in!
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Probably my favorite scoop movement. I've had a good chuckle at some of the names.
Anymore room on that wagon? I just had a movement!
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Let's hope Henry wants to keep being a Warrior!
(http://timage1.prepsportswear.com/GetImage.iaspx?type=1&scale=58&schoolid=49921&p=436&pc=royal&d=47996&up_pp=Enter%20Name%7C34%7C2014&up_ss=m&ver=0&r=0)
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Boom
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More of a lurker than a poster, but it's time for me to do my part.
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Done
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Positive Ellenson thought of the day. We are worried that Izzo is going to blow Ellenson away in East Lansing this weekend and he will slip through our fingers. Izzo hasn't exactly done the best job of recruiting in the past few years. He's obviously a brand name coach, but for whatever reason has been unable to land major talent in the last two years.
In 2013, Izzo brought in a class of three three stars (one of whom transferred to Ohio) that was good enough to crack the list of top 70 recruiting classes. In his 2014 class, he brought in a 4 star and 2 3 stars and turned in a class that couldn't crack the the list of top 50 recruiting classes.
Izzo is off to a good start this season with a 4 star and a 3 star already signed (currently a top 25 but not top 20 class). Maybe his struggles will continue. I don't know why it's been a struggle, Izzo has all the tools that the other big boys have. Maybe he's losing his touch? Maybe he can't connect to the latest generation of recruits? Or maybe sh*t happens and Izzo will bounce back hard.
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Positive Ellenson thought of the day. We are worried that Izzo is going to blow Ellenson away in East Lansing this weekend and he will slip through our fingers. Izzo hasn't exactly done the best job of recruiting in the past few years. He's obviously a brand name coach, but for whatever reason has been unable to land major talent in the last two years.
In 2013, Izzo brought in a class of three three stars (one of whom transferred to Ohio) that was good enough to crack the list of top 70 recruiting classes. In his 2014 class, he brought in a 4 star and 2 3 stars and turned in a class that couldn't crack the the list of top 50 recruiting classes.
Izzo is off to a good start this season with a 4 star and a 3 star already signed (currently a top 25 but not top 20 class). Maybe his struggles will continue. I don't know why it's been a struggle, Izzo has all the tools that the other big boys have. Maybe he's losing his touch? Maybe he can't connect to the latest generation of recruits? Or maybe sh*t happens and Izzo will bounce back hard.
These things are cyclical. Even if he's had a couple weak classes, it won't stay that way forever.
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I can dig it.
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As I said, I simply need to stop engaging with guys who have no idea about playing the game other than on XBox/Playstation - of course you being one of them. There was plenty of evidence Buzz sucked last year. And I've presented plenty of facts to back that fact up, along with the other couple of reasons why the team was awful last year. Guys like you point to Jamil and Davante not showing "leadership," as the reason the team struggled. We had another idiot here who eventually had to leave the board, who offered up the genius analysis in my signature.
What is sad is that despite having ample evidence of being wrong all of last season, you and the handful of others simply can't acknowledge how flawed your position was last year. 17-15. Missed the NIT. IN a season we were predicted to WIN THe Big East, and returned more experience than ever before in Buzz's tenure.
And that shows all the maturity of a 4 year old.
Plenty of examples of high caliber athletes (of which you apparently are??) who aren't successful as GM or coach ( a group you apparently belong to).
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Can't think of a finer cause and Scoop movement to support. Great idea EllensonChili83.
I can dig it.
(http://blog.3dcart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/chuck-norris-3dcart.jpeg)
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Does this stick when he selects the blue & gold?
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Does this stick when he selects the blue & gold?
No. Then we all switch to some other underaged kid that we covet.
Don't worry, it's cool.
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I can dig it.
(http://blog.3dcart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/chuck-norris-3dcart.jpeg)
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Snowballing Now!!
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In.
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Snowballing Now!!
+1
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Scoop's version of the ice bucket challenge. It's all about raising awareness!
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I'm in.
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When I was a student, I was MUMotivAsian ("motivation"), then I became LLRj Since 1986 (when I was born)
I apologize if this is similar to someone else's name...I haven't bothered going through all the threads, but this is my contribution to the cause.
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So about this Ellenson Thing...
Can Wally go along on his recruiting trips? Or are family members not allowed?
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Positive Ellenson thought of the day. We are worried that Izzo is going to blow Ellenson away in East Lansing this weekend and he will slip through our fingers. Izzo hasn't exactly done the best job of recruiting in the past few years. He's obviously a brand name coach, but for whatever reason has been unable to land major talent in the last two years.
In 2013, Izzo brought in a class of three three stars (one of whom transferred to Ohio) that was good enough to crack the list of top 70 recruiting classes. In his 2014 class, he brought in a 4 star and 2 3 stars and turned in a class that couldn't crack the the list of top 50 recruiting classes.
Izzo is off to a good start this season with a 4 star and a 3 star already signed (currently a top 25 but not top 20 class). Maybe his struggles will continue. I don't know why it's been a struggle, Izzo has all the tools that the other big boys have. Maybe he's losing his touch? Maybe he can't connect to the latest generation of recruits? Or maybe sh*t happens and Izzo will bounce back hard.
The good news is that Izzo can be out recruited as not all kids take to his desire for Lunch Bucket mentality. The bad news is he and the Spartans are always there at the end. I think he will be selling Henry that they don't have very many big's on the roster. Ordinarily I am not on the side of the younger is better approach, but in this case Wojo is more attuned to the young kids.
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If we don't get Ellenson, it's my fault you guys. I was too overconfident about it at the bar. My bad.
There's still time to redeem yourself by adding Ellenson to your username.
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The good news is that Izzo can be out recruited as not all kids take to his desire for Lunch Bucket mentality. The bad news is he and the Spartans are always there at the end. I think he will be selling Henry that they don't have very many big's on the roster. Ordinarily I am not on the side of the younger is better approach, but in this case Wojo is more attuned to the young kids.
I think you've got that all wrong.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1974270-msus-tom-izzo-performs-amazing-ladder-dance-serves-an-unsuspecting-nation
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How long til we hear from HoopEllenson-aloop??
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How long til we hear from HoopEllenson-aloop??
Was Chicos banned again?!
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Was Chicos banned again?!
huh?
chicos is an iu guy, remember hoopaloop is a purdue guy.
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huh?
chicos is an iu guy, remember hoopaloop is a purdue guy.
Oh yeah...
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Not really sure what to do here...
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Does Ellenson want to work with a team of coach's at Marquette that are bent on player development and mutual respect or a coach at MSU that will teach him to run through walls and tackle things? ;D
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Oh yeah...
Ha, on my way to Purdue right now. I will keep an eye out for him.
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There's still time to redeem yourself by adding Ellenson to your username.
Done
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Not really sure what to do here...
This made me laugh way more than it shous have PTEllensoM. Maybe?
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oh my always thought that was without the ugliest, characterless, and blandest campus i have ever been on. what takes u there?
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oh my always thought that was without the ugliest, characterless, and blandest campus i have ever been on. what takes u there?
+1, didn't appreciate the postings on the sidewalks.
This made me laugh way more than it shous have PTEllensoM. Maybe?
Thoughts?
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Does Ellenson want to work with a team of coach's at Marquette that are bent on player development and mutual respect or a coach at MSU that will teach him to run through walls and tackle things? ;D
He has mentioned numerous times that he wants to improve his skills on the court. Plus Wally will be able to tell his brother all about how they're helping him.
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+1, didn't appreciate the postings on the sidewalks.
Thoughts?
Gets to the point that's for sure.
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Thoughts?
Yeah definitely works
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oh my always thought that was without the ugliest, characterless, and blandest campus i have ever been on. what takes u there?
Gonna go fish the mighty Wabash. ;)
We have couple of Purdue alum...heading down to hire some enginerds.
When do you change to River Ellenson Rat?
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OK I am in, also he can have this moniker when he comes here if he so chooses.
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OK I am in, also he can have this moniker when he comes here if he so chooses.
Someone should link Henry to this thread.
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If Big Daddy can do it...
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Anything for a good cause...
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Why not?
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Done
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Mods? We're still waiting on you.
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NOW it is a lock.
Scoop, get on the bandwagon. Ners, Sultan, Chicos, Lenny,Topper, Rocky????? Big Daddy? Keefe, when you get back from "vacation" :o !!!!!
Ahem. Fellas?
If Ners and Chick are on the bandwagon....
Mods, you my permission to give Seamus Ellenson Keefe an early parole this week.
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keefe get banned?
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Well I may not know if Ellenson is coming to MU or not but I do know what is winning next year's meme tournament. One could even say it's a #donedeal
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keefe get banned?
Yes.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44786.0
(He was warned earlier.)
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He who lives by the sword....
Scoop is better with Keefe
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Scoop is better with Keefe
Infinitely
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I love it when a plan comes together.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44780.msg649630#msg649630
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Yes.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44786.0
(He was warned earlier.)
Shane! Come back!
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Not sure if this was mentioned, but per 247sports, he had Calipari and Kenny Payne in for a in-home visit. In other words, if Henry's folks' house suddenly goes on the market, he might be a Kentucky lean.
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JEllenson actually has a nice ring to it.
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Not sure if this was mentioned, but per 247sports, he had Calipari and Kenny Payne in for a in-home visit. In other words, if Henry's folks' house suddenly goes on the market, he might be a Kentucky lean.
I dunno, I'm not too worried about buying the parents from a family from Rice Lake. Remember, MU still had the best recruiting tool with Wally.
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..you Jellen...?
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keefe get banned?
Yes.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44786.0
(He was warned earlier.)
I prefer to think of it as a trial week of Cacscadian Independence.
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I prefer to think of it as a trial week of Cacscadian Independence.
Post of the year.
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Infinitely
and better with out the antagonist double talker
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“Anything is possible if it happens.”
― Sarah Roberts, Rokula
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I dunno, I'm not too worried about buying the parents from a family from Rice Lake. Remember, MU still had the best recruiting tool with Wally.
Don't call Wally a tool! Families read this board, dontcha know!
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Would be great to have both Ellenson's onboard.
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so keefe gets banned and chico stops posting at the same time, hmmm
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The Ellenson brothers apparently really like each other and are close. Would be a great story to have tight-knit brothers on the team if this high quality. Would be great!
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A superstitious sort might wonder: "Hmmm, we became heavily favored to land a top-5 recruit without everybody making "Ellenson" part of their MU screen names, so why mess with success?
I'm not especially superstitious ... but just in case, I'll sit this "plan" out so others can have fun taking part.
Sacrificing for the team. That's the kind of guy I am.
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so keefe gets banned and chico stops posting at the same time, hmmm
Oh no you didn't
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so keefe gets banned and chico stops posting at the same time, hmmm
User name keefeellensonchicoloop is available
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so keefe gets banned and chico stops posting at the same time, hmmm
I know it's a joke. Nobody familiar with their writing styles/typical content would see even a remote similarity - but please, please don't go there, even kiddingly. When Chico gets in one of his patented look at me moods he'll claim to have been mistaken for Keefe. Wouldn't want to do that to Crash.
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But can he dunk?
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Changed the name, too long.
Honoring the fallen. *skypoint*
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Thought Hess blew our collective heines away long ago?
BTW, I'm down with this thread, but I don't change my signature for nobody, hey?
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I'm in.
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Thought Hess blew our collective heines away long ago?
BTW, I'm down with this thread, but I don't change my signature for nobody, hey?
He left during the mess.
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Count me in!!!!!
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He who lives by the sword....
Scoop is better with Keefe
Free Keefe!!
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I am on another long trip to Asia and need Keefe posts to keep me entertained. I agree with hairy.
FREE KEEFE ASAP!!!
4ever
I am with you on both fronts. Not joining the crew but feeling very, very good about him landing Henry. Hope you guys are posting good news on that front over the upcoming days.
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Nah, keefe needs his timeouts to level off. He usually returns a better poster.
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too easy.
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Unleash the beast! keefe lives, dead or alive.
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Joined the movement.
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Thought Hess blew our collective heines away long ago?
BTW, I'm down with this thread, but I don't change my signature for nobody, hey?
Lighten up Francis.
I anoint you 4everellensonwarriors. Kinda has a ring to it, eh?
Now, get it done before you post again. ;)
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Changed the name, too long.
Honoring the fallen. *skypoint*
Pour some out.
How is the work commute going for him? Still 7 hours each way?
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When Mr Henry Ellenson changes his handle to HenryMarquetteEllenson - THEN I will get excited! Go Marquette!
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When Mr Henry Ellenson changes his handle to HenryMarquetteEllenson - THEN I will get excited! Go Marquette!
Come on! DaniEllenson! It's perfect!
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Come on! DaniEllenson! It's perfect!
Chick, you need to get after that ole stick in the mud, Sultan.
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He who lives by the sword....
Scoop is better with Keefe
Agreed. Free Keefe.
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Come on! DaniEllenson! It's perfect!
Yeah get in step, Recruiting gods are watching.
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Pour some out.
How is the work commute going for him? Still 7 hours each way?
Nah, works close to home now. I hear he enjoys driving home from the Des Moines area and back the wee hours of morning though.
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I'm in.
Also, count me in the free Keefe camp.
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Free Steve.
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Luckily Keefe has a similar name to a Chicago rapper who can't stay out of prison, so the T shirts are already made
(http://fthishype.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Chief-Keef-x-Been-Trill-LS-Tee-1.jpg)
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Luckily Keefe has a similar name to a Chicago rapper who can't stay out of prison, so the T shirts are already made
(http://fthishype.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Chief-Keef-x-Been-Trill-LS-Tee-1.jpg)
I'll take 5.
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Agreed. Free Keefe.
Agreed. Free Keefe.
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Come on! DaniEllenson! It's perfect!
Lol! Great one!
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I'm on the "free Keefe" bandwagon. His stuff out of left field is always a good laugh.
If worse comes to worst, thankfully the ban was only 7 days.
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Yes.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44786.0
(He was warned earlier.)
He was banned for this? Seems like overkill.
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He was banned for this? Seems like overkill.
He started a number of political threads that the mods locked and/or deleted and was warned not to do so. He did.
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He started a number of political threads that the mods locked and/or deleted and was warned not to do so. He did.
how do you know he was warned by the mods?
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Last night I was at the Fish Market and tonight I was at the Vegetable Souq. The word here in Abu Dhabi amongst the locals is that Ellenson is a "Done Deal". Book it!
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Keef is subverting his ban.
Permaban him.
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how do you know he was warned by the mods?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44732.0
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So we r at a consensus? Two people banned and only one is missed? 100 % agree with the rest of the board.
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http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44732.0
Aha. Thanks Sultan.
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Luckily Keefe has a similar name to a Chicago rapper who can't stay out of prison, so the T shirts are already made
(http://fthishype.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Chief-Keef-x-Been-Trill-LS-Tee-1.jpg)
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BANG BANG!!!
IM DYING!!!!!
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On board the train
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Last night I was at the Fish Market and tonight I was at the Vegetable Souq. The word here in Abu Dhabi amongst the locals is that Ellenson is a "Done Deal". Book it!
You're killing me, Crash!
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Reminds me of that Wisconsin forward 4 years ago.
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He was banned for this? Seems like overkill.
There aren't many firm rules. No politics is one. It is a week long siesta, and then he will be back.
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Who wants to talk about politics anyway? Yawnnn....
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There aren't many firm rules. No politics is one. It is a week long siesta, and then he will be back.
Keefe always comes back from his sabbaticals better than ever. I'm sure he will return with a flourish.
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Thought Hess blew our collective heines away long ago?
BTW, I'm down with this thread, but I don't change my signature for nobody, hey?
I gotta wonder what might have happened if you'd only changed your signature to 4everLooney.
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Had a good face to face with him yesterday. Lovin' it in LA. Will be in Chicago Dec. 20 and the Bahamas over Thanksgivin'. Roomed this summer with another freshman baller from Australia. Gettin' stronger liftin'.
Gonna be tough flyin' those Southwest sardine cans when you're 6'9", doe. Next stop, the Association.
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Last night I was at the Fish Market and tonight I was at the Vegetable Souq. The word here in Abu Dhabi amongst the locals is that Ellenson is a "Done Deal". Book it!
Mods, Keefe is in compliance with the terms for an early release on probation.
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Keefe always comes back from his sabbaticals better than ever. I'm sure he will return with a flourish.
He is probably on Haiku #3,987 now and is shooting for 5,000 to unleash upon his return.
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Keef is subverting his ban.
Permaban him.
Double secret ban?
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Rocky:
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Topper:
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Keefe: (http://nerdcityonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Animal-House-5.jpg)
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Ners: (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h7ilMFTv6WA/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABo/9fNGMzXg7hA/photo.jpg)
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KenoshaWarrior: (http://www.crucialbrutal.com/site_images/NEWS_dorfman.gif)
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Naw, man, THIS is keefe:
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Spent some time lurking on the MSU and Kentucky message boards.
Kentucky people have pretty much counted out all chances of getting Ellenson and from what I gather their insider is pretty confident that he is coming to Marquette.
MSU fans are a little more optimistic but still think MU is the front runner. Was really hard to find any basketball talk. All about football over there. They're fan base is pretty funny too.
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Ners: (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h7ilMFTv6WA/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABo/9fNGMzXg7hA/photo.jpg)
YES
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Spent some time lurking on the MSU and Kentucky message boards.
Kentucky people have pretty much counted out all chances of getting Ellenson and from what I gather their insider is pretty confident that he is coming to Marquette.
MSU fans are a little more optimistic but still think MU is the front runner. Was really hard to find any basketball talk. All about football over there. They're fan base is pretty funny too.
I don't think he has even scheduled a visit to UK. He is at least visiting MSU, so I can see why they might be a tad more optimistic.
Visits make me nervous. I think we are the front runner, but there are still opportunities for minds to change.
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Spent some time lurking on the MSU and Kentucky message boards.
Kentucky people have pretty much counted out all chances of getting Ellenson and from what I gather their insider is pretty confident that he is coming to Marquette.
MSU fans are a little more optimistic but still think MU is the front runner. Was really hard to find any basketball talk. All about football over there. They're fan base is pretty funny too.
How do the MSU fans feel about their chances with Swanigan? It would be nice if he committed before Henry made a decision.
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I don't think he has even scheduled a visit to UK. He is at least visiting MSU, so I can see why they might be a tad more optimistic.
Visits make me nervous. I think we are the front runner, but there are still opportunities for minds to change.
Not more funny than the badger boards after lsu. Talk about throwing coach under the bus.
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No insider knowledge on this one but I would be 100% shocked if Ellenson committed to MSU on his visit there. If the parents are as involved and as worried about playing time for their sons as is suggested, is Henry really going make a decision before at least giving Wojo and Marquette an official visit with his brother, Wally, in the MU program? Canceling his visit would not be in that family's best interest. Also, would be very surprised if he is not at Madness with his parents. Could we see a commit that weekend? I guess time will tell.
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One of Izzo's top targets just committed today....to Texas. Izzo is down to three main targets for 2015: Matt McQuaid, Caleb Swanigan, and Ellenson.
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No insider knowledge on this one but I would be 100% shocked if Ellenson committed to MSU on his visit there. If the parents are as involved and as worried about playing time for their sons as is suggested, is Henry really going make a decision before at least giving Wojo and Marquette an official visit with his brother, Wally, in the MU program? Canceling his visit would not be in that family's best interest. Also, would be very surprised if he is not at Madness with his parents. Could we see a commit that weekend? I guess time will tell.
I would agree with this. I doubt that Henry would commit before giving his big brother's school a chance. In fact, if he commits early, I would actually be optimistic. I would take that as his MSU visit going poorly and him knowing that MU is it.
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Was it over a donedeal when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
FIFY
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Spent some time lurking on the MSU and Kentucky message boards.
Kentucky people have pretty much counted out all chances of getting Ellenson and from what I gather their insider is pretty confident that he is coming to Marquette.
MSU fans are a little more optimistic but still think MU is the front runner. Was really hard to find any basketball talk. All about football over there. They're fan base is pretty funny too.
Yesssss... finally revenge for Sam Bowie!!!
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How do the MSU fans feel about their chances with Swanigan? It would be nice if he committed before Henry made a decision.
They're almost positive he's a lock.
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OK, I'm in. I hope Henry's not insulted.
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There aren't many firm rules. No politics is one. It is a week long siesta, and then he will be back.
And none is squishier then this one, as I see politics discussed on this board regularly.
So, the ban seems arbitrary, but the mods do a great job and a little arbitrariness is certainly their privilege.
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And none is squishier then this one, as I see politics discussed on this board regularly.
So, the ban seems arbitrary, but the mods do a great job and a little arbitrariness is certainly their privilege.
Who else is missing this week? Yes, politics oozes into many threads. The difference here is that Keefe started politics-specific threads after being warned. He'll be back soon.
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PTM
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They're almost positive he's a lock.
He (Swanigan) doesn't seem to be in any hurry to commit at this point.
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And none is squishier then this one, as I see politics discussed on this board regularly.
So, the ban seems arbitrary, but the mods do a great job and a little arbitrariness is certainly their privilege.
just like the NFL lately
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He (Swanigan) doesn't seem to be in any hurry to commit at this point.
He must want to bask in that Indiana offer for a while.
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Some one posted a while back that Henry was making his decision by September 26. Is this true?
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Some one posted a while back that Henry was making his decision by September 26. Is this true?
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If you're saying Henry is committing during his official with us, hell ya brother! Let's hope.
If you're serious, no I don't think that's that true. It will probably be after his official.
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I wonder if this will come into play:
http://www.bluestarmedia.org/index.php/blogmain/dweiss/item/609-tom-izzo-bucks-the-trend-of-one-and-dones
Izzo has repeatedly stated that he is "done" with one and dones. While I agree with him that one and dones are bad for the college game, it could hurt his chances given that Henry certainly has one and done potential.
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I wonder if this will come into play:
http://www.bluestarmedia.org/index.php/blogmain/dweiss/item/609-tom-izzo-bucks-the-trend-of-one-and-dones
Izzo has repeatedly stated that he is "done" with one and dones. While I agree with him that one and dones are bad for the college game, it could hurt his chances given that Henry certainly has one and done potential.
Doubt Henry even sees this.
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I wonder if this will come into play:
http://www.bluestarmedia.org/index.php/blogmain/dweiss/item/609-tom-izzo-bucks-the-trend-of-one-and-dones
Izzo has repeatedly stated that he is "done" with one and dones. While I agree with him that one and dones are bad for the college game, it could hurt his chances given that Henry certainly has one and done potential.
So does Caleb Swanigan
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Doubt Henry even sees this.
If he follows college basketball at all, I think he would have. Izzo's opinions on one and dones has been well documented on ESPN
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Izzo is not done with players leaving in 2 or three years. He just said he does not want to recruit players that only plan on staying one year. Actually, if Ellenson only wants to stay one year in my opinion his best choice is MU, because he will be the star on MU as a freshmen. It is hard to say how much he will play at Kentucky his first year and at MSU he has less chance of being the go to player than he does at MU. Also, Milwaukee is an NBA city, which gives visiting NBA teams easy opportunity to see Ellenson play.
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PTM
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Nailed it.
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Some of you take things so literally..
Few guys are what might be reasonably called "almost certain one and done's." If Izzo brings in great talent, but the guy has an unreal year and has info that he could be drafted in the lottery and leaves... is that a bad thing?
I believe Izzo and others may be of the mindset that they aren't very interesting in bringing in a kid who is (1) stating he only wants to be in school for a year and (2) has the ability to make that come true. But that's a very select few.
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Some of you take things so literally..
Few guys are what might be reasonably called "almost certain one and done's." If Izzo brings in great talent, but the guy has an unreal year and has info that he could be drafted in the lottery and leaves... is that a bad thing?
I believe Izzo and others may be of the mindset that they aren't very interesting in bringing in a kid who is (1) stating he only wants to be in school for a year and (2) has the ability to make that come true. But that's a very select few.
I agree with this. No one could have predicted D Wade would only play two seasons at MU. But just because MU doesn't seek out those types of guys doesn't mean it can't and won't happen again
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Fawn Liebowitz, RIP
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Hoopaloop
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didnt stop him from going after jabari
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I agree with this. No one could have predicted D Wade would only play two seasons at MU. But just because MU doesn't seek out those types of guys doesn't mean it can't and won't happen again
I don't know if I agree with this 100%. Crean was touting Wade as NBA ready during his partial-qualifying year. I remember that he would always say he had a guy at the end of his bench who could play in the NBA right now. I would say that if MU hadn't lost first round and we made a good run (elite 8), Wade would have gone pro. I think there was always a feeling, at least with Crean, that Wade wouldn't be there 4 years.
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So does Caleb Swanigan
I disagree on Swanigan having one and done potential. That, of course, doesn't mean that he wouldn't try it, just that the NBA will make it clear to him that they much rather that he develop more.
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Fawn Liebowitz, RIP
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Hoopaloop
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WOUNDED DEER, Massachusetts – Emily Dickinson College sophomore Fawn Liebowitz died suddenly last week in a kiln explosion on campus. Liebowitz, 20, a sociology major from Fort Wayne, Indiana, was tragically killed while firing a pot in the new kiln in Sylvia Plath Hall.
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WOUNDED DEER, Massachusetts – Emily Dickinson College sophomore Fawn Liebowitz died suddenly last week in a kiln explosion on campus. Liebowitz, 20, a sociology major from Fort Wayne, Indiana, was tragically killed while firing a pot in the new kiln in Sylvia Plath Hall.
knew her sister, Bambi.
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New her cousin babey ruth.
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Does anyone that has seen Henry play in-person care to add some insight about his game/potential?
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Does anyone that has seen Henry play in-person care to add some insight about his game/potential?
Do you have access to ESPN3? They have the Team USA 2014 FIBA U-17 games on replay.
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WOUNDED DEER, Massachusetts – Emily Dickinson College sophomore Fawn Liebowitz died suddenly last week in a kiln explosion on campus. Liebowitz, 20, a sociology major from Fort Wayne, Indiana, was tragically killed while firing a pot in the new kiln in Sylvia Plath Hall.
Hey... isn't that Sultan's stomping grounds?
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She was going to make a pot for me.
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The fact that I am going to be an a company mandated retreat in the woods with limited internet this weekend is probably healthy for me. Keeps me from checking updates on how Ellenson's trip to East Lansing is going.
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I'm sure he'll enjoy it. Who wouldn't enjoy what Mich st has to offer.
It's all about what we do in a weeks time! excited and nervous!
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I'm sure he'll enjoy it. Who wouldn't enjoy what Mich st has to offer.
It's all about what we do in a weeks time! excited and nervous!
I've been to East Lancing. It ain't exactly Malibu.
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I've been to East Lancing. It ain't exactly Malibu.
I agree. Especially if you are from the country. Its not like visiting an upscale downtown city. Its a bit "dirty" for lack of a better word.
I would not worry about East Lansing being the deciding factor.
That said, I have also been to a Michigan v Michigan St game in East Lansing. Very nice atmosphere.
Been all over the state of Michigan, the two worst cities, Detroit and East Lansing.
Grand Rapids, and the northern coast cities along lake michigan are very very nice.
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I agree. Especially if you are from the country. Its not like visiting an upscale downtown city. Its a bit "dirty" for lack of a better word.
I would not worry about East Lansing being the deciding factor.
That said, I have also been to a Michigan v Michigan St game in East Lansing. Very nice atmosphere.
Been all over the state of Michigan, the two worst cities, Detroit and East Lansing.
Grand Rapids, and the northern coast cities along lake michigan are very very nice.
MSU is playing Eastern Michigan and are 45 pt favorites. There were still good seats available for the game as of yesterday. Combined with thunderstorms in the area. It would not surprise me if this were the worst attended Spartan game in years. So, who knows? It will come down to what kind of job Izzo does selling the kid on the Spartan mystique. Vs. how Cal does vs. how Wojo does.
My brother attended MSU, and I have fond memories of football Saturdays with him and his friends.
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MSU is playing Eastern Michigan and are 45 pt favorites. There were still good seats available for the game as of yesterday. Combined with thunderstorms in the area. It would not surprise me if this were the worst attended Spartan game in years. So, who knows? It will come down to what kind of job Izzo does selling the kid on the Spartan mystique. Vs. how Cal does vs. how Wojo does.
My brother attended MSU, and I have fond memories of football Saturdays with him and his friends.
The bolded part is dead on. If a basketball recruit is going to make a decision based on how much fun he has at a visiting school's football game, he's probably not a good fit for anyone. A fun atmosphere makes selling the experience easier, but it's far from a top deciding factor. And East Lansing may not be Malibu, but the kid's clearly not making his decision on destination locations unless he's really drawn to the opportunity to pound a nail into a stump while crushing some German beers. I'm confident in the 24/7 picks. Izzo or Cal have a huge sell to make for a reversal.
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I agree. Especially if you are from the country. Its not like visiting an upscale downtown city. Its a bit "dirty" for lack of a better word.
I would not worry about East Lansing being the deciding factor.
That said, I have also been to a Michigan v Michigan St game in East Lansing. Very nice atmosphere.
Been all over the state of Michigan, the two worst cities, Detroit and East Lansing.
Grand Rapids, and the northern coast cities along lake michigan are very very nice.
Never been to Flint uh? And Detroit is a great city if you know what you're doing there.
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I'm scrolling threw pictures of Malibu and im in shock. What an amazing city. Modern houses right in the beach. Mountain vistas in the back round wow. East Lansing is certainly no Malibu, but Malibu is still no Milwaukee!
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I'm scrolling threw pictures of Malibu and im in shock. What an amazing city. Modern houses right in the beach. Mountain vistas in the back round wow. East Lansing is certainly no Malibu, but Malibu is still no Milwaukee!
You are killing me, Johnny.
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I've been to East Lancing. It ain't exactly Malibu.
East Lansing is Rockford with a Big Ten college attached.
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Never been to Flint uh? And Detroit is a great city if you know what you're doing there.
+ Infinity.
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+ Infinity.
I guess its a matter of opinion. Hey?
Detroit imo is a cesspool
So is east lansing which is what this is about
Fwiw I know a bunch of people from Michigan that share my sentiments
All of my extended family Is from Michigan
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East Lansing is Rockford with a Big Ten college attached.
Ouch!!
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East Lansing is Rockford with a Big Ten college attached.
That's an insult to Rockford... ;)
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I guess its a matter of opinion. Hey?
Detroit imo is a cesspool
So is east lansing which is what this is about
Fwiw I know a bunch of people from Michigan that share my sentiments
All of my extended family Is from Michigan
I actually go to those places.
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I actually go to those places.
I do as well.
Just not by choice....
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I've been to East Lancing. It ain't exactly Malibu.
You know what else ain't exactly Malibu?
South Bend. Hartford. Manhattan (the KS one). Lawrence. Cincinnati. Iowa City. Champaign.
Oh, and Milwaukee ain't Malibu, either.
Izzo has done OK getting kids to go to not-Malibu!
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East Lansing is Rockford with a Big Ten college attached.
Easy now Mr. Pretzel man! Lay off the jokes about my childhood hometown!
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Sounds like Swanigan won't decide til Spring.
https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/513428131374313473
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So he is taking an official visit to Chicago State...... ::)
Seems kind of silly for the school to waste its time......
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So he is taking an official visit to Chicago State...... ::)
Seems kind of silly for the school to waste its time......
I think that was a typo and they meant to say Michigan State
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You know what else ain't exactly Malibu?
South Bend. Hartford. Manhattan (the KS one). Lawrence. Cincinnati. Iowa City. Champaign.
Oh, and Milwaukee ain't Malibu, either.
Izzo has done OK getting kids to go to not-Malibu!
MSU has an idyllic college campus. It is completed self contained small city, with the Red Cedar River running through the middle of it. The football stadium is set right in the middle of it and there are very few campuses that can compare. A small part of East Lansing, Grand River Avenue, abuts it for the college town experience. MSU has never had a problem selling there campus to recruits for any sports. The icing on the cake is it historically has had the best looking women in the Big Ten. Izzo and Heathcoate before him have only one mission which is to execute with the talent that they get.
I doubt that campus setting is a big factor in the school choice in this situation. If it was Wisconsin UNC Duke would have been on the final list.
The reality is this comes down to Wojo versus Izzo and Cal. The advantage we have is the parents have extensive experience in recruiting and can really sort out the fact from the fiction. Wojo was astute enough to get Wally on board, and now he just has to demonstrate that we have more upside and less risk for Henry.
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MSU has an idyllic college campus. It is completed self contained small city, with the Red Cedar River running through the middle of it. The football stadium is set right in the middle of it and there are very few campuses that can compare. A small part of East Lansing, Grand River Avenue, abuts it for the college town experience. MSU has never had a problem selling there campus to recruits for any sports. The icing on the cake is it historically has had the best looking women in the Big Ten. Izzo and Heathcoate before him have only one mission which is to execute with the talent that they get.
I doubt that campus setting is a big factor in the school choice in this situation. If it was Wisconsin UNC Duke would have been on the final list.
The reality is this comes down to Wojo versus Izzo and Cal. The advantage we have is the parents have extensive experience in recruiting and can really sort out the fact from the fiction. Wojo was astute enough to get Wally on board, and now he just has to demonstrate that we have more upside and less risk for Henry.
Sorry, UW's campus is completely overrated. Was there about a year ago and was unimpressed. A lot of construction and a crappy neighborhood immediately on the west side of campus. Living in the middle of PAC-12 country, I'll take any of our campuses out here. As far as the women....c'mon, do I really need to say more?
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Maybe you should change your screen name then, hey?
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MSU is a stellar campus, I've been to all those B1G schools west of Ohio and I'd put it top. Northwestern second. Purdue last.
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MSU is a stellar campus, I've been to all those west of Ohio and I'd put it top. Northwestern second. Purdue last.
And I'd put it far behind Cal, UCLA, Washington, and Colorado.
Anyway...to each his own.
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And I'd put it far behind Cal, UCLA, Washington, and Colorado.
Anyway...to each his own.
Probably.
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And I'd put it far behind Cal, UCLA, Washington, and Colorado.
Anyway...to each his own.
Yes Cal and Washington Better. UCLA similar and Colorado not really, it is full of ugly cement buildings ( obviously the scenery cant be beat). I have been to all the Pac Ten campus and generally agree that they are great and you can't beat the weather.
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What the hell is being discussed on this thread. Do much for Henry ellenson.
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What the hell is being discussed on this thread. Do much for Henry ellenson.
What exactly would you like to discuss? Is Ellenson a stud recruit? Yes. Is he visiting MSU this weekend? Yes. Does he visit MU next weekend? Yes. Will he be at UK's Midnight Madness? Yes.
There you go. We just covered it all.
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What exactly would you like to discuss? Is Ellenson a stud recruit? Yes. Is he visiting MSU this weekend? Yes. Does he visit MU next weekend? Yes. Will he be at UK's Midnight Madness? Yes.
There you go. We just covered it all.
Exactly so let's discuss cities on a thread not called Henry Ellenson.
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Exactly so let's discuss cities on a thread not called Henry Ellenson.
Keep it.
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Easy now Mr. Pretzel man! Lay off the jokes about my childhood hometown!
I was a Bulldog!
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That's an insult to Rockford... ;)
Clearly not the same Rockford that this famous Warrior is from.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/john_polonowski
For that is a pretty nice place.
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Clearly not the same Rockford that this famous Warrior is from.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/john_polonowski
For that is a pretty nice place.
Yes, and also the home of the Topsider....
http://www.wolverineworldwide.com/our-brands/sperry-top-sider/
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Yes, and also the home of the Topsider....
http://www.wolverineworldwide.com/our-brands/sperry-top-sider/
...and we have gone full circle. Bravo
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If players were picking schools based on the women on campus Arizona St. would be a national power.
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I think that was a typo and they meant to say Michigan State
Don't you be selling Chicago State short...
"The Cougars’ 13 victories were the fourth most by a CSU team during the Cougars’ 30-year Division I existence. The Cougars’ marquee victory in 2013-14 came at home over eventual WAC Tournament Champion and NCAA participant New Mexico State. CSU topped the Aggies 88-81 for Chicago State’s first ever win over a team with a top 100 RPI ranking."
Can a drop DePaul, add Chicago State movement be far off?
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What the hell is being discussed on this thread. Do much for Henry ellenson.
And what are you here for? Apparently to worry about my posts.
hy·poc·ri·sy
noun \hi-ˈpä-krə-sē also hī-\
: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel
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hy·poc·ri·sy
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: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel
Self righteous tool
-A self-righteous person acts superior to his peers because he believes his moral standards are perfect. This "moral smugness" is condescending by nature and is usually found offensive by others.
Congrats you just won ass of the year.
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Keep the grammar lessons coming, boys!
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Self righteous tool
-A self-righteous person acts superior to his peers because he believes his moral standards are perfect. This "moral smugness" is condescending by nature and is usually found offensive by others.
Congrats you just won ass of the year.
maybe take a play or two off there champ
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maybe take a play or two off there champ
+1
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maybe take a play or two off there champ
Lol! Tell that to the guy who goes through old threads to find things I've said and make himself feel smart.
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Self righteous tool
-A self-righteous person acts superior to his peers because he believes his moral standards are perfect. This "moral smugness" is condescending by nature and is usually found offensive by others.
Congrats you just won ass of the year.
Congrats, you just won a 2 week all expense paid trip to 'Scoop purgatory. Keefe left his suite in perfect shape, though I think you're too young to drink his scotch.
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Rocky, for kicks and giggles, you should have a running ban hammer list.
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Henry Ellenson @HENBA13 · 3h
Had a great visit this weekend at Michigan St
Let's hope Henry has a really great visit next weekend!
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Henry Ellenson @HENBA13 · 3h
Had a great visit this weekend at Michigan St
Let's hope Henry has a really great visit next weekend!
He made it out of East Lansing without a commit. So I'm good
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A great visit? Oh no!
Not just a good visit or very good visit or fun visit, but a great visit?
We're doomed. Doomed, I tell you!!
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Also known as around here...
"Relax. Respect the Process."
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Also known as around here...
"Relax. Respect the Process."
Well, maybe, if it was called The Ellenson Process...
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Is Rice Lake a D1 or D2 program for WI hoops? I know the city itself isn't very large. Wondering what their chances at a state championship are.
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Is Rice Lake a D1 or D2 program for WI hoops? I know the city itself isn't very large. Wondering what their chances at a state championship are.
Google tells me D2, and that Rice Lake lost in the 2014 title game.
http://fox6now.com/2014/03/15/wis-lutheran-beats-rice-lake-61-46-in-div-2/
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Becky might be losing its grip on Sharma too.
Becky tired of waiting, signed Alex Illikainen over the weekend. Good get for them. Now they wait to see if they get Sharma or Stone.
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Becky tired of waiting, signed Alex Illikainen over the weekend. Good get for them. Now they wait to see if they get Sharma or Stone.
My sources tell me Bo is cooling rapidly on Sharma.
And he'll have cooled on Stone, too, if Stone goes to UConn.
He cooled on Henry quite some time ago.
In recent years, also cooled on Parker, LeBron and CP3.
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My sources tell me Bo is cooling rapidly on Sharma.
And he'll have cooled on Stone, too, if Stone goes to UConn.
He cooled on Henry quite some time ago.
In recent years, also cooled on Parker, LeBron and CP3.
Thats some ice age like cooling that Bo has up in Vadgerville.
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Thats some ice age like cooling that Bo has up in Vadgerville.
So much cooling in the Grinch Den.
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Bo on the recruiting trail
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My sources tell me Bo is cooling rapidly on Sharma.
My sources tell me that Chico's "source" - "I'm willing to put money on it, that's how much a lock I think it is. Sharma is going to UW." and "I wouldn't say it if I didn't have a very good source saying it was going to happen" - jumped the gun. Done deal.
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Becky tired of waiting, signed Alex Illikainen over the weekend. Good get for them. Now they wait to see if they get Sharma or Stone.
But you said Sharma was a "stone cold lock" for Bucky......I guess he didn't get the memo....
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Becky tired of waiting, signed Alex Illikainen over the weekend. Good get for them. Now they wait to see if they get Sharma or Stone.
What did he sign?
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Michael Hunt pens a piece on Henry this morning:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/college-coaches-swarm-around-rice-lakes-henry-ellenson-b99358866z1-277173561.html?ipad=y
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Michael Hunt pens a piece on Henry this morning:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/college-coaches-swarm-around-rice-lakes-henry-ellenson-b99358866z1-277173561.html?ipad=y
Mike Hunt actually does a nice job with this piece. MU82, love your reply to the Vadger fan on the JS site. After reading the article, I couldn't agree more that Henry's parents sound like they couldn't be nicer.
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Mike Hunt actually does a nice job with this piece. MU82, love your reply to the Vadger fan on the JS site. After reading the article, I couldn't agree more that Henry's parents sound like they couldn't be nicer.
Are we recruiting his sister for the women's team? Is she friend's with Sandy Cohen's sister?
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Good article.
Continued hope.
Answered question about MU as the front runner.
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From the article: "I like how it's a new staff and all those guys played at a high level," he said. "They know the game. I like the city of Milwaukee. I think that's something, it being a big city. I think that's something you look at."
According to some on this board, this doesn't matter at all.
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Good article.
Continued hope.
Answered question about MU as the front runner.
Is Ellenson in the China shop with the bull?
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Wow. Amazing how many Vadger fans crawl out of the woodwork whenever a column like that is posted. Same talking points. It's like they all attend meetings to get their story straight. They all follow in line, lockstep. Sad—but predictable—group.
God forbid a Wisconsin player doesn't worship good ol' State U.
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Solid article for Mike Hunt standards. Sounds like Henry is a real quality individual. He'll make the best decision for himself. I hope and believe it is us, but wish him luck whereever he goes.
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Michael Hunt pens a piece on Henry this morning:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/college-coaches-swarm-around-rice-lakes-henry-ellenson-b99358866z1-277173561.html?ipad=y
This is a nice article about Henry and the Ellenson family. Too bad it has attracted the shameful comments of Vadger fans who are incapable of showing any kind of class whatsoever towards this young man and his family. They're like Notre Dame lite with their arrogance and elitist behavior.
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This is a nice article about Henry and the Ellenson family. Too bad it has attracted the shameful comments of Vadger fans who are incapable of showing any kind of class whatsoever towards this young man and his family. They're like Notre Dame lite with their arrogance and elitist behavior.
My personal favorite (or least favorite rather) "If really Bo wanted him he would have gotten him." So I guess Bo never really wanted Vander, Wes or Looney.
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My personal favorite (or least favorite rather) "If really Bo wanted him he would have gotten him." So I guess Bo never really wanted Vander, Wes or Looney.
Bo Ryan--- The only coach who recruits players he does not want.
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Mike Hunt actually does a nice job with this piece. MU82, love your reply to the Vadger fan on the JS site. After reading the article, I couldn't agree more that Henry's parents sound like they couldn't be nicer.
I really liked this article, gave a lot of insight into the Ellenson family, the recruitment and into the way Henry thinks.
I also like the response to the Badger guy you mentioned, but that MU82 is a counterfeit. It wasn't me!
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My personal favorite (or least favorite rather) "If really Bo wanted him he would have gotten him." So I guess Bo never really wanted Vander, Wes or Looney.
Wojo will look pretty dumb when the player that Bo wanted, Alex Illikainen, turns out to be the better player in college.
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Wojo will look pretty dumb when the player that Bo wanted, Alex Illikainen, turns out to be the better player in college.
This post is confusing. Teal?
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This post is confusing. Teal?
This is the my first ever sarcastic post without teal. I really thought that this one wouldn't need it. I guess this is why teal is always a good idea, so much context gets lost with digital ink.
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This is the my first ever sarcastic post without teal. I really thought that this one wouldn't need it. I guess this is why teal is always a good idea, so much context gets lost with digital ink.
For the record, I was pickin' up what you were throwin' down.
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So, breakfast at the Broken Yolk?
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So, breakfast at the Broken Yolk?
BroYo bro.
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I really liked this article, gave a lot of insight into the Ellenson family, the recruitment and into the way Henry thinks.
I also like the response to the Badger guy you mentioned, but that MU82 is a counterfeit. It wasn't me!
Sorry MU82. That was me. Wasn't trying to steal your name on the journal/sentinel board, but a typo when setting up the account has made me MU82 over there.
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Be nice if the weather would cooperate and give him a sense of home, aina?
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Be nice if the weather would cooperate and give him a sense of home, aina?
Like I said, why anybody in their right mind would want to leave this beautiful place for Westwood is beyond me.
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Sorry MU82. That was me. Wasn't trying to steal your name on the journal/sentinel board, but a typo when setting up the account has made me MU82 over there.
You ba$tard!! And you're not even class of '82.
Just wait till the Interwebs Police get ahold of you!!!
But seriously, good post over there. I'm proud to have written it by association.
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Anyone seeing Ellenson? Is he around the AL and is Jabari coincidentally around there as well and just happening to challenge all people to a game of horse?
Is he in walking boot?
Is his mom live tweeting the visit?
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Is he in walking boot?
They were fitting him for the walking boot. He doesn't get the custom one unless he enrolls.
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Anyone seeing Ellenson? Is he around the AL and is Jabari coincidentally around there as well and just happening to challenge all people to a game of horse?
Is he in walking boot?
Is his mom live tweeting the visit?
Didn't Hunt's article say Henry would be coming in tomorrow?
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Didn't Hunt's article say Henry would be coming in tomorrow?
Yea, usually all official visits are done on saturday so they spend a whole day and it doesn't interfere with school.
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Isn't it 48 hours from arriving? I'd expect him here either Friday morning through Sunday morning, or getting here Friday night. I'm guessing he'd meet some teachers or shadow a class.
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This is a nice article about Henry and the Ellenson family. Too bad it has attracted the shameful comments of Vadger fans who are incapable of showing any kind of class whatsoever towards this young man and his family. They're like Notre Dame lite with their arrogance and elitist behavior.
This is why I detest Badger backers. They have nothing to be arrogant about, yet act as if their school is God's gift to academia. Classless, clueless clowns.