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Title: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ecompt on September 05, 2014, 01:36:46 PM
And congrats to coach Wojo. Great Get!
Title: Welcome Haanif!
Post by: humanlung on September 05, 2014, 01:37:07 PM
Great to have you as a Warrior!
Title: Cheatham to MU!
Post by: GooooMarquette on September 05, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
Welcome Haanif!
Title: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: chuck on September 05, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
Shooting guard Haanif Cheatham just verbally committed to Marquette. He’s wearing the blue and gold hat now at Pembroke Pines Charter HS. If we get Henry Ellenson, I would argue that this class will be MU’s greatest recruiting class. Ever.
Ellenson (5 ESPN; 6 Scout; 9 CBS Sports)
Noskowiak (49 ESPN; 89 Scout; 68 CBS Sports)
Cheatham (78 ESPN; 80 Scout; 61 CBS Sports)
Heldt (Unranked on ESPN, but #17 center and #15 center is 89 overall; 56 Scout; 94 CBS Sports)
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on September 05, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Welcome Haanif.  Gotta make Henry's commitment just a bit easier.  Warrior Nation.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 05, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
Just so we show some respect, I believe his first name has 2 a's and 1 n, not the other way around.

If someone knows better, please share.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Aughnanure on September 05, 2014, 01:48:13 PM
Time to update the scholly table!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 05, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
Time to update the scholly table!

I'll get to it this weekend.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on September 05, 2014, 01:49:39 PM
Time to update the scholly table!

+1
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: We R Final Four on September 05, 2014, 01:52:36 PM
Alright alright alright!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on September 05, 2014, 01:54:51 PM
Well done Wojo!!

Excellent choice young man!
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Coleman on September 05, 2014, 02:05:40 PM
Shooting guard Haanif Cheatham just verbally committed to Marquette. He’s wearing the blue and gold hat now at Pembroke Pines Charter HS. If we get Henry Ellenson, I would argue that this class will be MU’s greatest recruiting class. Ever.
Ellenson (5 ESPN; 6 Scout; 9 CBS Sports)
Noskowiak (49 ESPN; 89 Scout; 68 CBS Sports)
Cheatham (78 ESPN; 80 Scout; 61 CBS Sports)
Heldt (Unranked on ESPN, but #17 center and #15 center is 89 overall; 56 Scout; 94 CBS Sports)

If we get Ellenson, our 2015 class will be #2 in the nation.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Tums Festival on September 05, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Just so we show some respect, I believe his first name has 2 a's and 1 n, not the other way around.

If someone knows better, please share.

That's correct. Too bad there were plenty of people that never could spell Davante's name correctly after four years.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: real chili 83 on September 05, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
Cheatham?

Never heard of him.

/ducks.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MattyWarrior on September 05, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Plus Wojo beat out Brent and a lot of good schools for Haanif. Welcome to MU!!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Newsdreams on September 05, 2014, 02:29:38 PM
That's correct. Too bad there were plenty of people that never could spell Davante's name correctly after four years.
Wasn't it Devante
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: swoopem on September 05, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
If we get Ellenson, our 2015 class will be #2 in the nation.

Are you saying for the time being or when it's all said and done? Louisville got another 5* last night and then Arizona is loaded so I don't think we'll pass them. I think we'll be top 5 with Arizona, Louisville, Duke, and Kentucky (eventually they'll land their studs). 
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on September 05, 2014, 02:33:58 PM
Welcome to Marquette University, one of the greatest basketball schools in the country!
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on September 05, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
If we get Henry Ellenson, I would argue that this class will be MU’s greatest recruiting class. Ever.

I would argue that we should wait to see how this class does before we - as Denny Green would say - crown their ass.

For example, I have no idea what the 2000 class of Dwyane Wade and Scott Merritt (and Terry Sanders) was ranked, but the mere presence of Wade ended up making it superior. I mean, is this current class going to have a future Hall of Famer and a guy who averaged 10 ppg for a Final Four team? We'll see.

I'm guessing the same could be said about several of Al's recruiting classes, given that he sent numerous players to the NBA.

Make no mistake, I already am absolutely thrilled with Wojo's first recruiting class and will be even happier if Ellenson is a Warrior. But I would argue that there is a big difference between rankings on paper and production.

Let's let the kids play a few minutes - let alone a few seasons - before we anoint them, no?
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Johnny B on September 05, 2014, 02:43:52 PM
I would argue that we should wait to see how this class does before we - as Denny Green would say - crown their ass.

For example, I have no idea what the 2000 class of Dwyane Wade and Scott Merritt (and Terry Sanders) was ranked, but the mere presence of Wade ended up making it superior. I mean, is this current class going to have a future Hall of Famer and a guy who averaged 10 ppg for a Final Four team? We'll see.

I'm guessing the same could be said about several of Al's recruiting classes, given that he sent numerous players to the NBA.

Make no mistake, I already am absolutely thrilled with Wojo's first recruiting class and will be even happier if Ellenson is a Warrior. But I would argue that there is a big difference between rankings on paper and production.

Let's let the kids play a few minutes - let alone a few seasons - before we anoint them, no?
Well put, but it could be the highest RANKED class we have ever got.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: BCHoopster on September 05, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
I would argue that we should wait to see how this class does before we - as Denny Green would say - crown their ass.

For example, I have no idea what the 2000 class of Dwyane Wade and Scott Merritt (and Terry Sanders) was ranked, but the mere presence of Wade ended up making it superior. I mean, is this current class going to have a future Hall of Famer and a guy who averaged 10 ppg for a Final Four team? We'll see.

I'm guessing the same could be said about several of Al's recruiting classes, given that he sent numerous players to the NBA.

Make no mistake, I already am absolutely thrilled with Wojo's first recruiting class and will be even happier if Ellenson is a Warrior. But I would argue that there is a big difference between rankings on paper and production.

Let's let the kids play a few minutes - let alone a few seasons - before we anoint them, no?

Al never had good classes, he only got a player to take over for a player leaving, maybe his best was Chones, Allie, George Frazier.
First Chones, then McNeil, Lucas, Bo Ellis









Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: AZWarrior on September 05, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
Plus Wojo beat out Brent and a lot of good schools for Haanif. Welcome to MU!!

Brent who?
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: CTWarrior on September 05, 2014, 02:55:16 PM
Welcome aboard Haanif!  Nice to get great news to start the weekend!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on September 05, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
I think it all comes down to potential. Consistently bring in Top 100 kids and your chances for long term success improves.

And on a completely different matter,  the fact that it's hard for Homer to say 'Noskowiak to Haanif for the 3' brings a smile to my face.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 05, 2014, 03:04:20 PM
Excellent pick up. Welcome to the Warrior family Haanif
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: murphmurphy on September 05, 2014, 03:11:46 PM
There must be some sort of mistake here.  These top 100 players can't really be coming to Marquette.  Buzz said he left because the New Big East TV package was garbage and it was not possible to recruit top players to the New Big East.  Could it be that Buzz if full of something that smells bad?
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 05, 2014, 03:13:49 PM
There must be some sort of mistake here.  These top 100 players can't really be coming to Marquette.  Buzz said he left because the New Big East TV package was garbage and it was not possible to recruit top players to the New Big East.  Could it be that Buzz if full of something that smells bad?

Haha well done.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: alexius23 on September 05, 2014, 03:19:16 PM
Unexpected this is (welcome it is)    :o
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: dgies9156 on September 05, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
Welcome to Marquette University, one of the greatest basketball schools in the country!

Fixed.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 05, 2014, 03:32:41 PM
Well put, but it could be the highest RANKED class we have ever got.

If you include transfers, Kevin O'Neill's 6 recruit first class (1990) would probably win out, although Ellenson would be the highest ranked player in either class, and highest ranked recruit since Doc Rivers (1980) or Bernard Toone (1975).
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 05, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
His name sounds like it came out of the Hunger Games Trilogy. Perhaps we should change our mascot from the Golden Eagles to the Mockingjays!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Johnny B on September 05, 2014, 03:46:06 PM
His name sounds like it came out of the Hunger Games Trilogy. Perhaps we should change our mascot from the Golden Eagles to the Mockingjays!
Golden Eagles to Warriors!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Loose Cannon on September 05, 2014, 03:54:29 PM
Golden Eagles to Warriors!

Maybe Golden Warriors !!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Blackhat on September 05, 2014, 05:20:26 PM
Alright, alright, alright!

(http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/matthew-mcconaughey-alright-alright-alright.jpg)


Four-star shooting guard Haanif Cheatham committed to Marquette over Baylor, California, Florida State, Georgetown and Georgia during an announcement at Pembroke Pines Charter high school Friday afternoon.

The 6-foot-5, 180-pound prospect took three official visits -- Alabama, California and Marquette -- plus an unofficial visit to Georgetown before making his decision. In the end, it was the relationship he built with Marquette head coach Steve Wojciechowski that won things over for the Golden Eagles.

"Coach Wojo keeps in contact with me," Cheatham told Rivals.com in June. "I can tell he's being a real honest person and not candy coating a lot of things. He seems like a very nice guy. He has a lot of basketball experience, he's knows what he's talking about and that's what makes him stand out."

Accompanied by his mother, Cheatham visited Marquette Aug. 29-31. According to Pembroke Pines Charter head coach Dave Roca, the visit was very valuable for Cheatham's decision-making process.

"Hanni was able to get a better understanding of the academic offerings MU has to offer," said Roca via text message. "That said, he was also able to meet with Wojo and get better insight regarding the program's positioning today and future. [It] was very productive."

Cheatham is the No. 68 ranked overall prospect in the Rivals Top150 for the class of 2014.


Little preview:

 Haanif Cheatham and Cheick Diallo made a nice duo for their team on Friday. A 6-foot-5 wing, Cheatham does a little bit of everything. He handles, he passes, he defends and he makes just enough shots from deep to keep defenders honest. He is a utility wing who makes smart decisions and will help win a lot of ballgames in college.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: HutchwasClutch on September 05, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
If you include transfers, Kevin O'Neill's 6 recruit first class (1990) would probably win out, although Ellenson would be the highest ranked player in either class, and highest ranked recruit since Doc Rivers (1980) or Bernard Toone (1975).

Easy to overlook Levin and Wally E. as really part of next year's recruiting class too, even though their additions won't be considered in the class of 2015 rankings when all is said and done next spring.   Levin's already played very well as just a freshman, Wally's got the size and athleticism that can't be taught, he just didn't get the opportunity for minutes at Minnesota (although we'll find out if there's a reason why he didn't).   But these two can be the icing on the cake for the 2015 class. 
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: HutchwasClutch on September 05, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
The high level of this recruiting class, especially if Henry finishes it off, I think goes a long way to debunking the notion that the Big East is quickly sinking to the ranks of mid- major status.  We'll have to see what the others do too, but if just three or four of schools like Georgetown, 'Nova, St. John's, Butler, maybe Creighton hopefully can pull in natinally ranked hauls as well (just not as good as ours hopefully)  ;), that will be huge for a conference trying to establish a brand and indentity nationally.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 05, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
The high level of this recruiting class, especially if Henry finishes it off, I think goes a long way to debunking the notion that the Big East is quickly sinking to the ranks of mid- major status.  We'll have to see what the others do too, but if just three or four of schools like Georgetown, 'Nova, St. John's, Butler, maybe Creighton hopefully can pull in natinally ranked hauls as well (just not as good as ours hopefully)  ;), that will be huge for a conference trying to establish a brand and indentity nationally.

The Hall hasn't done too badly either.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Johnny B on September 05, 2014, 08:44:58 PM
The high level of this recruiting class, especially if Henry finishes it off, I think goes a long way to debunking the notion that the Big East is quickly sinking to the ranks of mid- major status.  We'll have to see what the others do too, but if just three or four of schools like Georgetown, 'Nova, St. John's, Butler, maybe Creighton hopefully can pull in natinally ranked hauls as well (just not as good as ours hopefully)  ;), that will be huge for a conference trying to establish a brand and indentity nationally.
i was thinking the same thing, we need other schools beside GT Nova to be getting recruits, other than GT MU Nova Xavier no ones got naything happening.Maybe Seton hall can have an amazing turnaround by grabbing whitehead.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: HutchwasClutch on September 05, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Shooting guard Haanif Cheatham just verbally committed to Marquette. He’s wearing the blue and gold hat now at Pembroke Pines Charter HS. If we get Henry Ellenson, I would argue that this class will be MU’s greatest recruiting class. Ever.
Ellenson (5 ESPN; 6 Scout; 9 CBS Sports)
Noskowiak (49 ESPN; 89 Scout; 68 CBS Sports)
Cheatham (78 ESPN; 80 Scout; 61 CBS Sports)
Heldt (Unranked on ESPN, but #17 center and #15 center is 89 overall; 56 Scout; 94 CBS Sports)


Thank-you Haanif for helping my attention divert from the arse whooping the Pack took last night and the Brewers nine game skid!  This class will just be so stellar if we get Henry, and I think we're getting him, I'm putting it 85/15 he's a Warrior come November signing period.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Jay Bee on September 05, 2014, 09:13:01 PM
i was thinking the same thing, we need other schools beside GT Nova to be getting recruits, other than GT MU Nova Xavier no ones got naything happening.Maybe Seton hall can have an amazing turnaround by grabbing whitehead.

Seton Hall has an excellent class coming in and it's not at all just Whitehead. Delgado and Nzei would = no rebounds for the opponent.

Providence has Alex Owens (another rebounding stud) and Ryan Fazekas in 2015.. and PC and Lindsey this year. Really good recruiting.

Plus I often hear DePaul is a sleeping giant.

I think St. John's will come through as well.

Plenty of talent coming into the Big East.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: bamamarquettefan on September 05, 2014, 09:14:37 PM
I would argue that we should wait to see how this class does before we - as Denny Green would say - crown their ass.

For example, I have no idea what the 2000 class of Dwyane Wade and Scott Merritt (and Terry Sanders) was ranked, but the mere presence of Wade ended up making it superior. I mean, is this current class going to have a future Hall of Famer and a guy who averaged 10 ppg for a Final Four team? We'll see.

I'm guessing the same could be said about several of Al's recruiting classes, given that he sent numerous players to the NBA.

Make no mistake, I already am absolutely thrilled with Wojo's first recruiting class and will be even happier if Ellenson is a Warrior. But I would argue that there is a big difference between rankings on paper and production.

Let's let the kids play a few minutes - let alone a few seasons - before we anoint them, no?

Obviously Al's classes were great, but based on the "future nba" player criteria, over the past few years we've had more former mu players in the nba at once that Al ever did
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Johnny B on September 05, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
Seton Hall has an excellent class coming in and it's not at all just Whitehead. Delgado and Nzei would = no rebounds for the opponent.

Providence has Alex Owens (another rebounding stud) and Ryan Fazekas in 2015.. and PC and Lindsey this year. Really good recruiting.

Plus I often hear DePaul is a sleeping giant.

I think St. John's will come through as well.

Plenty of talent coming into the Big East.
yes, but can they all stay consistent(SH,PROV,STJ) and continue to bring in good talent.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on September 05, 2014, 10:22:51 PM
Obviously Al's classes were great, but based on the "future nba" player criteria, over the past few years we've had more former mu players in the nba at once that Al ever did

OK, I'll accept this challenge.

From the McGuire Era:

Brunkhorst, Thomas, Allie, Lackey, Thompson, Meminger, McNeill, Toone, Tatum, Lee, Ellis, Walton, Chones, Lucas, Whitehead.

That's 15 of Al's recruits who went on to play in either the NBA, ABA or both.

I'm not sure how you define "over the past few years," but I'll give you a nice long stretch and say all players recruited by either Crean or Buzz (who were at Marquette a combined 15 years, compared to 13 for Al):

Diener, Hayward, Wade, Novak, Matthews, DJO, Crowder, Buycks, Butler, Blue.

That's 10.

Even if you reach back to every Warrior who played at least one NBA game in this millennium - which would bring Tony Smith, McIlvaine, McCaskill and Crawford into the mix - that's 14.

Source was Sports Reference.com - http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=marquette

I know this list doesn't include McNeal; I guess they only count guys who actually played in an NBA game, not just on a roster. Maybe there was a guy or two like that in Al's era, too?

My larger point was (and is) that we can't know yet how good this class is until ... well ... the players actually do something! The Wade-Merritt class accomplished something, as did lots of Al's classes.

I'm excited about this class' potential and thrilled with Wojo's recruiting efforts. As with all things potential-related, however, the operative two-word statement is: WE'LL SEE.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Anti-Dentite on September 05, 2014, 10:29:25 PM
Awesome get, makes me feel more confident that Henry is also on his way. I don't think you could script a better start for Wojo.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 05, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
That's correct. Too bad there were plenty of people that never could spell Davante's name correctly after four years.

Or Dwayne's.

Quote from: bamamarquettefan

Obviously Al's classes were great, but based on the "future nba" player criteria, over the past few years we've had more former mu players in the nba at once that Al ever did

And that includes the Al years when the ABA was still around.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on September 06, 2014, 12:40:44 AM
Or Dwayne's.

And that includes the Al years when the ABA was still around.
Including reporters because that is how and why I misspelled it a couple times. Especially Wade's. Some spelled it Dwyane instead of Dwayne.

They are to blame when they have typo's that go uncorrected for long periods of time and many times players themselves change the spelling or pronunication of their name as well.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Tums Festival on September 06, 2014, 01:48:44 AM
Haanif, welcome to Marquette! You will make a mighty Warrior.

In unrelated recruiting news, Malik Beasley committed to Florida St. He had Brent Tech as one of his finalists.

Makes Haanif's commitment that much sweeter.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 06, 2014, 05:52:47 AM
Obviously Al's classes were great, but based on the "future nba" player criteria, over the past few years we've had more former mu players in the nba at once that Al ever did


Not certain that's accurate.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on September 06, 2014, 07:07:34 AM

Not certain that's accurate.

IT ISN'T! Please see my post just 5 above yours.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: nycwarrior on September 06, 2014, 07:13:32 AM
Question: In the Al era, there were many guys who made the league but did MU ever have three players competing at as high a level as Wade, Wes and JFB?
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: willie warrior on September 06, 2014, 07:14:45 AM
IT ISN'T! Please see my post just 5 above yours.
Thank you MU82 for schooling the heretics. Al was the man and put MU on the map. All that have come after him may be good coaches, but none will ever replace Al.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: sailwi on September 06, 2014, 07:19:46 AM
Lucas, Chones and Walton played a number of years in the league at teh same time.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: hairy worthen on September 06, 2014, 07:26:08 AM
Question: In the Al era, there were many guys who made the league but did MU ever have three players competing at as high a level as Wade, Wes and JFB?


One thing you are overlooking.

 In 1974 there were 18 nba teams, now there are 30 teams plus developmental league. That's quite a few more players that can make a nba team now vs 70's.

 No one has played to the level of Wade, but that's one guy and a special player. Wes? and JFB? I would categorize them as solid nba players. Certainly not perennial all stars.

Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: GooooMarquette on September 06, 2014, 07:54:31 AM
One thing you are overlooking.

 In 1974 there were 18 nba teams, now there are 30 teams plus developmental league. That's quite a few more players that can make a nba team now vs 70's.


This.  If there were 30 teams in the 70s, guys like Rosenberger, Marcus Washington and others would have had NBA careers.  And guys like Ellis and Walton would have played a lot longer.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: hoyasincebirth on September 06, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Congrats on the Pick up guys, obviously if it couldn't be us, I'd rather he pick you and keep the talent in the BE.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Coleman on September 06, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
One thing you are overlooking.

 In 1974 there were 18 nba teams, now there are 30 teams plus developmental league. That's quite a few more players that can make a nba team now vs 70's.

 No one has played to the level of Wade, but that's one guy and a special player. Wes? and JFB? I would categorize them as solid nba players. Certainly not perennial all stars.



But there was also the ABA, no?
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Loose Cannon on September 06, 2014, 09:26:37 AM
Congrats on the Pick up guys, obviously if it couldn't be us, I'd rather he pick you and keep the talent in the BE.


Very gracious of you!  Thanks
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 06, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Haanif, welcome to Marquette! You will make a mighty Warrior.

In unrelated recruiting news, Malik Beasley committed to Florida St. He had Brent Tech as one of his finalists.

Makes Haanif's commitment that much sweeter.

He also had us as one of his finalists...
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 06, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
He also had us as one of his finalists...

I mean I know its early but currently according to 247 were number 11 in recruiting class and VT is number 75. Even DePaul is ahead of VT right now. Hows that lack of Big East recruiting again?
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 06, 2014, 01:44:22 PM
I mean I know its early but currently according to 247 were number 11 in recruiting class and VT is number 75. Even DePaul is ahead of VT right now. Hows that lack of Big East recruiting again?

I guess I get annoyed that we feel the need to keep bringing up Virginia Tech. It really seems like the teenage girl who keeps commenting about how ugly her ex's new girlfriend is.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 06, 2014, 01:46:43 PM
I guess I get annoyed that we feel the need to keep bringing up Virginia Tech. It really seems like the teenage girl who keeps commenting about how ugly her ex's new girlfriend is.

Heres the thing though. He made it a point to basically rip the new conference and praise the ACC. MU is dominating the recruiting scene right now, especially if Henry commits. I will make a wager that VT will not get one top 100 recruit for 2015.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on September 06, 2014, 01:47:49 PM
I guess I get annoyed that we feel the need to keep bringing up Virginia Tech. It really seems like the teenage girl who keeps commenting about how ugly her ex's new girlfriend is.

Like it or not, it's human nature to do this. You might be annoyed by it, but it would give a lot of Marquette fans great joy to see Buzz fall flat on his face.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on September 06, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
Heres the thing though. He made it a point to basically rip the new conference and praise the ACC. MU is dominating the recruiting scene right now, especially if Henry commits. I will make a wager that VT will not get one top 100 recruit for 2015.

I think "dominating the recruiting scene" might be reaching a little, but your enthusiasm is great  ;D Brent's history suggests that he will be able to pull recruits, so I would wager he would pull at least one top 100 recruit.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 06, 2014, 01:52:03 PM
Like it or not, it's human nature to do this. You might be annoyed by it, but it would give a lot of Marquette fans great joy to see Buzz fall flat on his face.

Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 06, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
I think "dominating the recruiting scene" might be reaching a little, but your enthusiasm is great  ;D Brent's history suggests that he will be able to pull recruits, so I would wager he would pull at least one top 100 recruit.

That was assuming Henry commits.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on September 06, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.

Lol, a little bizarre that you know plenty of teenage girls and know about their relationships  ;) In all seriousness though, this could be the case for many people. However, just as many,if not more secretly wish for them to fail or in the dating analogy "downgrade" to make themselves feel better about their decisions. I don't think it's malicious, just a way to cope with feeling spurned.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2014, 02:55:15 PM
But there was also the ABA, no?

Yes, Jim Chones signed with the NY Nets. I might be wrong but I think he got a 5 million dollar signing bonus...one of the first in NBA/ABA signing war.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: AZWarrior on September 06, 2014, 03:48:35 PM
Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.

Yes, that's consistent with my recollections of the high school years.

Of course, I also remember those extremely wise, confident and well balanced girls riding unicorns to school each morning.   ;)
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: sailwi on September 06, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
I don't think Chones got 5M more like 500k, ABA was around for 9 years and had between  6-10 teams depending on the year.  I read a book about the ABA (Loose Balls) very entertaining.  Most of the ABA salaries for the superstars were lower salaries and they bought the players deferred  comp plans  so the numbers they  reported were usually a higher than what the players received for playing.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on September 06, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
But there was also the ABA, no?

Yes, until 1976, when it merged with the NBA, giving the NBA 22 teams - still 8 fewer than now.

Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Johnny B on September 06, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.
Yes well maybe those girls had nice breakups. Buzz basically slipped out the door to find another team elsewhere. It was a slap in the face to his team and all MU fans. Id be lying if i said i wouldnt be happy to see buzz lose..hard,at least a coupple seasons.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: NickelDimer on September 06, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
I know plenty of teenage girls
TMI?
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on September 07, 2014, 01:00:51 AM
I guess I get annoyed that we feel the need to keep bringing up Virginia Tech. It really seems like the teenage girl who keeps commenting about how ugly her ex's new girlfriend is.

Yeah but we're way prettier than that fugly chick
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 07, 2014, 01:25:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i2yYun3.gif)

I think this is an appropriate response to my own post.

Unfortunately, who broke up with who is one of the most popular topics where I work. It's one of the hazards of supervising college students.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Newsdreams on September 07, 2014, 01:47:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i2yYun3.gif)

I think this is an appropriate response to my own post.

Unfortunately, who broke up with who is one of the most popular topics where I work. It's one of the hazards of supervising college students.
Danger, Danger Will Robinson!!
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Warrior Code on September 07, 2014, 09:45:38 PM
Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/through%20with%20buzz%20steely%20dan (http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/through%20with%20buzz%20steely%20dan)
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: keefe on September 07, 2014, 11:53:58 PM
No one has played to the level of Wade



Maurice Lucas. Hall of Famer Bill Walton thought so much of Luke as a teammate and, more importantly, as a man he named his son after him. Luke Walton went on to play in the NBA and now coaches with the Warriors. Somehow that is only fitting.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 08, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Maurice Lucas. Hall of Famer Bill Walton thought so much of Luke as a teammate and, more importantly, as a man he named his son after him. Luke Walton went on to play in the NBA and now coaches with the Warriors. Somehow that is only fitting.

Yup, my dad would always tell me how Lucas was Waltons personal body guard and the Blazers don't win that championship without him. Didn't realize he had that much of an impact on Walton himself though.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: willie warrior on September 08, 2014, 12:45:45 PM
Maurice Lucas. Hall of Famer Bill Walton thought so much of Luke as a teammate and, more importantly, as a man he named his son after him. Luke Walton went on to play in the NBA and now coaches with the Warriors. Somehow that is only fitting.
Not sure that Lucas played to the level of Wade, but it is close. As a pro, Wade is likely the best. But at the MU collegiate level, an argument could be made for a number of guys that played to the level of Wade including: Meminger, B. Lee, Ellis, Kojis, T. Smith and G. Thompson. Probably forgot a couple, also.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: augoman on September 08, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
Not sure that Lucas played to the level of Wade, but it is close. As a pro, Wade is likely the best. But at the MU collegiate level, an argument could be made for a number of guys that played to the level of Wade including: Meminger, B. Lee, Ellis, Kojis, T. Smith and G. Thompson. Probably forgot a couple, also.

...William Earl Tatum.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 08, 2014, 10:49:36 PM
Is it? Because I know plenty of teenage girls who move on and wish their ex's and their new girlfriends happiness. Or even better, they don't give them a second thought at all.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/through%20with%20buzz%20steely%20dan (http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/through%20with%20buzz%20steely%20dan)

Link isn't getting me anywhere, but I noticed Steely Dan in there and quickly figured you were going to this song.

Through With Buzz

He takes all my money
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh
He's not very funny
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh

I remember when he stole my girl
Drug her all around the world
You know I'm cool, yes I feel alright
'Cept when I'm in my room and it's late at night I'm on MUScoop

Maybe he's a fairy
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz
All right, oh yeah, uh huh, all right
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
Not sure that Lucas played to the level of Wade, but it is close. As a pro, Wade is likely the best. But at the MU collegiate level, an argument could be made for a number of guys that played to the level of Wade including: Meminger, B. Lee, Ellis, Kojis, T. Smith and G. Thompson. Probably forgot a couple, also.
Having watched Lucas many many times back in the day, I believe that he was every bit the equal of Wade as a pro. Back in the day, Lucas was  the prototype power forward who struck fear in the heart of the opponents. He was an incredible leader. Not taking anything away from Wade at all but Lucas was most definitely an equal. Tough was an understatement in describing him.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: keefe on September 09, 2014, 12:04:51 AM
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Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: brandx on September 09, 2014, 12:34:32 AM
Having watched Lucas many many times back in the day, I believe that he was every bit the equal of Wade as a pro. Back in the day, Lucas was  the prototype power forward who struck fear in the heart of the opponents. He was an incredible leader. Not taking anything away from Wade at all but Lucas was most definitely an equal. Tough was an understatement in describing him.

Lucas was one of my faves of all-time - but it is not even close.

Wade is a borderline top-25 all-time; Lucas may be borderline top-100
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on September 09, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Having watched Lucas many many times back in the day, I believe that he was every bit the equal of Wade as a pro. Back in the day, Lucas was  the prototype power forward who struck fear in the heart of the opponents. He was an incredible leader. Not taking anything away from Wade at all but Lucas was most definitely an equal. Tough was an understatement in describing him.

Enjoyed/enjoy watching both. Totally different positions. Totally different games. Impossible to really compare.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: willie warrior on September 09, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
...William Earl Tatum.
Amen--and I have his Bobblehead.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Warrior Code on September 09, 2014, 02:47:38 PM
Link isn't getting me anywhere, but I noticed Steely Dan in there and quickly figured you were going to this song.

Through With Buzz

He takes all my money
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh
He's not very funny
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh

I remember when he stole my girl
Drug her all around the world
You know I'm cool, yes I feel alright
'Cept when I'm in my room and it's late at night I'm on MUScoop

Maybe he's a fairy
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz
All right, oh yeah, uh huh, all right

In the words of Marquette's own Chris Farley, that is correct.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on September 10, 2014, 02:00:45 PM

Thank-you Haanif for helping my attention divert from the arse whooping the Pack took last night and the Brewers nine game skid!  This class will just be so stellar if we get Henry, and I think we're getting him, I'm putting it 85/15 he's a Warrior come November signing period.

Some may put it at 100/0.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 18, 2014, 12:41:42 PM
Apologies to Haanif for the delay, but he finally made the scholarship table!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on October 18, 2014, 12:55:30 PM
Apologies to Haanif for the delay, but he finally made the scholarship table!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

Thanks for the bump so I can pat myself on the back about...

Some may put it at 100/0.

...this.  Good call.
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: real chili 83 on October 18, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/mYpwv_3VVv8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="//www.youtube.com/v/mYpwv_3VVv8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"

Ya don't say.

A scoop first, Keefe at a loss for words.  ;)
Title: Re: Haanif Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: real chili 83 on October 18, 2014, 02:03:12 PM
Apologies to Haanif for the delay, but he finally made the scholarship table!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Smokin' Jae on October 18, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Thanks for the bump so I can pat myself on the back about...

...this.  Good call.

Yea man, you nailed it

Do we have a realistic chance of landing Stone and/or Ellenson? One more than the other?

We will not get either.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on October 18, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
Yea man, you nailed it


Yup.  Already addressed that as well.
Title: Re: Cheatham picks Marquette
Post by: Jay Bee on October 18, 2014, 07:02:33 PM
Yea man, you nailed it


Lol