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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Celtic Truth on August 26, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
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My little brother is at a Nike bball camp this week in Boston and Aaron Falzon is one of the camp councillors. He said that he is "definitely not coming to Marquette". He would rather stay closer to home. His top 2 choices are BC and Harvard. He's leaning towards BC because he thinks the academic workload at Harvard is way to tough. Looks like he's going to settle for being an Eagle and not a Golden Eagle(or warrior).
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That is too bad. He would be a nice addition.
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Falzon is a nice player but Wojo has somebody else in mind for that spot.
Best of luck to the young man.
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Falzon is a nice player but Wojo has somebody else in mind for that spot.
Best of luck to the young man.
*crosses fingers*
I hope it's me!
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I would choose Harvard over BC....despite the academic overload. Nothing against BC, in fact it was #1 for me. But a Harvard degree, with a bball letter....arguably more lucrative than a Wooden Finalist.
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We'll good luck and good buy :D
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Best of luck to him. I don't think Wojo got in on him quick enough to truly ever have a chance....and as MuMark said, Wojo has someone else in mind for that spot.
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Well, clearly this Falzon isn't all that good. At a minimum, I find his judgment wanting.
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I would choose Harvard over BC....despite the academic overload. Nothing against BC, in fact it was #1 for me. But a Harvard degree, with a bball letter....arguably more lucrative than a Wooden Finalist.
You just have to remain eligible. Seriously, playing a competitive Division I sport while getting a Harvard education would require a Herculean effort that's outside the abilities of all but a very few.
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Well, clearly this Falzon isn't all that good. At a minimum, I find his judgment wanting.
Yeah he must not be a very intelligent kid either.
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Yeah he must not be a very intelligent kid either.
Well, if he ends up at BC I would suggest he's a f ucking idiot
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You just have to remain eligible. Seriously, playing a competitive Division I sport while getting a Harvard education would require a Herculean effort that's outside the abilities of all but a very few.
We had a kid in the neighborhood that got a football scholarship to Haaaavaaad. Very bright kid and a gifted athlete.
He chose to leave after freshman year. He didn't like the culture of the school. He was too Midwestern, and didn't like the cliquee, East Coast boarding school persona that he found on campus.
Not for everyone.
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We had a kid in the neighborhood that got a football scholarship to Haaaavaaad. Very bright kid and a gifted athlete.
He chose to leave after freshman year. He didn't like the culture of the school. He was too Midwestern, and didn't like the cliquee, East Coast boarding school persona that he found on campus.
Not for everyone.
Unless I am mistaken, and I believe Harvard may have been the first school to change this so maybe that's what it is, but Ivy League schools do not give out athletic scholarships. At the same time, they do not have a set tuition. For all students, tuition at an Ivy League school is based on family income. The lower the family income, the lower the tuition and vice versa. And if one Ivy League school sets their tuition at $X, any other Ivy League school can offer that same tuition (so for example, say Harvard sets 1 student's tuition at $25,000/year, and Cornell sets the same student's tuition at $20,000/year, I believe Harvard can offer the student a tuition of $20,000/year). I have heard that unless you are making over a very healthy income (well into the 6 digit salary range) as a family, you will not be paying a huge amount in tuition to send a kid to an Ivy League school.
Again, Harvard may have been the first, and continues to be the only, Ivy League school who has began offering athletic scholarships.
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If you have a family income below a certain amount, you can go to Harvard tuition free. Same with every other Ivy League school. They get a lot of athletes in under those criteria.
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Athletic scholarships disguised as grants-in-aid
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Ivy League schools need your brains, not your $-------there is plenty of that available.
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Unless I am mistaken, and I believe Harvard may have been the first school to change this so maybe that's what it is, but Ivy League schools do not give out athletic scholarships. At the same time, they do not have a set tuition. For all students, tuition at an Ivy League school is based on family income. The lower the family income, the lower the tuition and vice versa. And if one Ivy League school sets their tuition at $X, any other Ivy League school can offer that same tuition (so for example, say Harvard sets 1 student's tuition at $25,000/year, and Cornell sets the same student's tuition at $20,000/year, I believe Harvard can offer the student a tuition of $20,000/year). I have heard that unless you are making over a very healthy income (well into the 6 digit salary range) as a family, you will not be paying a huge amount in tuition to send a kid to an Ivy League school.
Again, Harvard may have been the first, and continues to be the only, Ivy League school who has began offering athletic scholarships.
Athletic scholarships are not allowed by Ivy League, so if Harvard is still in the Ivy League (they are), they are not offering athletic scholarships.
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If you have a family income below a certain amount, you can go to Harvard tuition free. Same with every other Ivy League school. They get a lot of athletes in under those criteria.
They also get a lot of non-athletes in under those criteria. There are a few others who do this, too. I think Princeton is one, though I'm not completely sure.
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Unless I am mistaken, and I believe Harvard may have been the first school to change this so maybe that's what it is, but Ivy League schools do not give out athletic scholarships. At the same time, they do not have a set tuition. For all students, tuition at an Ivy League school is based on family income. The lower the family income, the lower the tuition and vice versa. And if one Ivy League school sets their tuition at $X, any other Ivy League school can offer that same tuition (so for example, say Harvard sets 1 student's tuition at $25,000/year, and Cornell sets the same student's tuition at $20,000/year, I believe Harvard can offer the student a tuition of $20,000/year). I have heard that unless you are making over a very healthy income (well into the 6 digit salary range) as a family, you will not be paying a huge amount in tuition to send a kid to an Ivy League school.
Again, Harvard may have been the first, and continues to be the only, Ivy League school who has began offering athletic scholarships.
This kid was middle class, like all of us in the neighborhood.
Bottom line, he went to school for fre to play football.
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Taking an official visit to Northwestern today
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You just have to remain eligible. Seriously, playing a competitive Division I sport while getting a Harvard education would require a Herculean effort that's outside the abilities of all but a very few.
If you get accepted by Harvard, I'd say the chances of you being "one of the few" are pretty damn good.
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The Interest alone on Harvard's endowment could fund the entire school budget without accepting any tuition money.
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Taking an official visit to Northwestern today
So, then, definitely staying close to home?
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If you get accepted by Harvard, I'd say the chances of you being "one of the few" are pretty damn good.
Not to mention grade inflation runs rampant at many Ivy League schools. Not saying it isn't a great school, cause clearly it is, but I'm saying its likely no harder to stay eligible there than any other better than average school.
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It seems like this kid is focused on high level academic institutions. He must be a good student. He would be a great pick up if he still had interest in us.
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It seems like this kid is focused on high level academic institutions. He must be a good student. He would be a great pick up if he still had interest in us.
I'm a '79 NMH alumnus. Crazy hard academics if you have a good GPA, you can pick and choose from IVY League schools. Very expensive also, tuition is about same as Marquette. Most of the top athletes that attend NMH are looking for academics first.
http://www.nmhschool.org/athletics/winter/basketball-boys
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From what I have heard it is either Harvard or Northwestern
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Easy choice–NU
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They also get a lot of non-athletes in under those criteria. There are a few others who do this, too. I think Princeton is one, though I'm not completely sure.
At Havard ...
If your family makes less than $75,000/year you can go tuition free. Between $75,000 and $150,000/year the average tuition paid is $12,000/year. 60% of students are getting some kind of tuition break (the average tuition paid by all Harvard students in 2013 was $21,000) Athletes make up a small fraction of this total.
Yes the school has preppy boarding school kids, but it also has thousands that are not of this stereotype.
At high D1 schools athletes get counselors, tutors, special dorms, priority in class scheduling, etc ... See what MU does for basketball players. At ivies like Harvard they get no special treatment, just like Zuckerberg got no special treatment after he invited Facebook when living in Kirkland House. This can make it exceptionally hard to be an athlete at an Ivy (only the service academies are harder to be an athlete). This is why a number of athletes stop participating in sports and chose to be students only. A smaller percentage transfer.
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I understand your point, but why would Zuckerberg get special treatment from Harvard for inventing Facebook? I don't follow.
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I understand your point, but why would Zuckerberg get special treatment from Harvard for inventing Facebook? I don't follow.
Most schools give extraordinary students special privileges/considerations, whether in athletics, sciences, liberal arts, music, medicine, business etc. The ivies largely don't do this. So you have to be Harvard student PLUS a D1 athlete to play at Harvard. It's is not easy ... Harvard athletes will never be confused with Florida State athletes.
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At Havard ...
If your family makes less than $75,000/year you can go tuition free. Between $75,000 and $150,000/year the average tuition paid is $12,000/year. 60% of students are getting some kind of tuition break (the average tuition paid by all Harvard students in 2013 was $21,000) Athletes make up a small fraction of this total.
I guess this explains why parents "divorce" on paper but still live with one another.
Sets up the paperwork to fleece organizations and the government.
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Easy choice–NU
If he wants a better education (on paper) and a chance to go to the NCAAs each year, the easy choice is Harvard.
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NU it is. Glad you guys got to yap about Harvard.
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Good for NU. Chris Collins is doing work over there. Love my Wildcats.
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It was good that Wojo spent time with him. There are some kids coming up from his high school that are going to be decent players.
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NU it is. Glad you guys got to yap about Harvard.
A nice compromise. A slight drop in academics, a big rise in regular season competition.