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Title: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 21, 2014, 10:09:44 PM
http://www.stadiumjourney.com/news/03-28-2014/599/college-basketball-arena-rankings-2014

Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: martyconlonontherun on August 21, 2014, 11:16:00 PM
Ironically, MU may be a few years away from Kohl Hole 2
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: muhoosier260 on August 21, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
The review on the Bradley Center is funny, re: Adam Silver. Of course there will be debate with this type of ranking, but I don't know how USC Upstate is a top 15 college basketball arena, just no. Hey, MU is one ahead of IU, all that matters, boom!
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 21, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
The review on the Bradley Center is funny, re: Adam Silver. Of course there will be debate with this type of ranking, but I don't know how USC Upstate is a top 15 college basketball arena, just no. Hey, MU is one ahead of IU, all that matters, boom!

I'd put the BC about 50 spots ahead of the AH....a total dump.  But the natives can't get over that it is "their dump" so they don't want to change it.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 22, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
Don't tell my boss, but I burst out laughing when I saw Reed Arena up there at number 11. It might have been good back in the day, but it is sorely in need of an update....which it is getting next year!

Also, there have been no fans in Reed Arena since Turgeon left. Well, the women's games are well attended.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: bilsu on August 22, 2014, 06:53:01 AM
I prefer the Kohl center over a hockey arena. The Kohl Center can get much louder than the BMO Harris Center can.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: dgies9156 on August 22, 2014, 08:49:05 AM
I was stunned by this rankings, which suggests the guy really has not been to many college basketball venues.

Clearly the best, outside the Bradley Center, is Cameron Indoor Arena, home of Duke. I would argue Hinkle Fieldhouse and Memorial Gym in Nashville should be in the Top 10. The latter is a hellhole for opposing teams. 

I know SIU is an on-again, off-again mid-major but their arena being ranked significantly better than our's, Indiana's, Vanderbilt's or Duke's is, well, nuts.

Finally, get UD arena off that list! It's Dayton, forgodsakes. The only reason the world knows about the place is that UD somehow has a hold on its conferences and the NCAA and gets a boatload of games they don't deserve there!
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: Atticus on August 22, 2014, 08:59:00 AM
I'm surprised we even made the list.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: warriorchick on August 22, 2014, 09:30:09 AM
This entire article is crap.

Rupp #1?  Only if you like watching hoops in a ginormous '70's era high school gym, complete with low-tech scoreboard.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: Aughnanure on August 22, 2014, 09:39:17 AM
I'm surprised we even made the list.

Well it goes to 351 so I'd hope we'd place somewhere on it.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 22, 2014, 10:06:14 AM
I was stunned by this rankings, which suggests the guy really has not been to many college basketball venues.

Clearly the best, outside the Bradley Center, is Cameron Indoor Arena, home of Duke. I would argue Hinkle Fieldhouse and Memorial Gym in Nashville should be in the Top 10. The latter is a hellhole for opposing teams. 

I know SIU is an on-again, off-again mid-major but their arena being ranked significantly better than our's, Indiana's, Vanderbilt's or Duke's is, well, nuts.

Finally, get UD arena off that list! It's Dayton, forgodsakes. The only reason the world knows about the place is that UD somehow has a hold on its conferences and the NCAA and gets a boatload of games they don't deserve there!

In all honesty, have to disagree on some of this.  I've been to Cameron, Hinkle and Dayton.   Cameron is overplayed in my view.  It is fun, and for big games can get crazy down low, but what you see on camera and what happens in the rest of the building (it is small) aren't the same thing. 

Dayton, always supports their team, pretty consistent fans.  Not over the top, but knowledgeable.   Hinkle, aside from the historical magic, didn't think the crowds were anything special.  Depends who you play.

In my view it is important to see what the authors used as their criteria.  Also, it would be great to know which games they went to.  Attending a UNC vs Duke game is a lot different than a UNC Greesnboro vs Duke game.  Nevertheless, all 351 schools rated.  Give them a hat tip just for the 4 year effort.

Criteria used:  "Our reviews are based on several categories including: food & beverage in the arena, the overall atmosphere, the neighborhood in which the arena resides, the fans, the access (including traffic, parking, restrooms, and ability to move around in the arena), overall return on investment, and a catchall category for any extras. We use the rating of our correspondent as our primary ranking, with the crowd reviews of our members as the secondary factor. In cases where there is still a tie, we have an internal discussion to determine which arena experience might be slightly better."
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: 🏀 on August 22, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
In all honesty, have to disagree on some of this.  I've been to Cameron, Hinkle and Dayton.   Cameron is overplayed in my view.  It is fun, and for big games can get crazy down low, but what you see on camera and what happens in the rest of the building (it is small) aren't the same thing. 

Dayton, always supports their team, pretty consistent fans.  Not over the top, but knowledgeable.   Hinkle, aside from the historical magic, didn't think the crowds were anything special.  Depends who you play.

In my view it is important to see what the authors used as their criteria.  Also, it would be great to know which games they went to.  Attending a UNC vs Duke game is a lot different than a UNC Greesnboro vs Duke game.  Nevertheless, all 351 schools rated.  Give them a hat tip just for the 4 year effort.

Criteria used:  "Our reviews are based on several categories including: food & beverage in the arena, the overall atmosphere, the neighborhood in which the arena resides, the fans, the access (including traffic, parking, restrooms, and ability to move around in the arena), overall return on investment, and a catchall category for any extras. We use the rating of our correspondent as our primary ranking, with the crowd reviews of our members as the secondary factor. In cases where there is still a tie, we have an internal discussion to determine which arena experience might be slightly better."

ABD
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on August 22, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
The dump that DePaul plays in was ranked 337.....generous IMO.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: jsglow on August 22, 2014, 11:37:19 AM
This entire article is crap.

Rupp #1?  Only if you like watching hoops in a ginormous '70's era high school gym, complete with low-tech scoreboard.

+1. Perhaps the crappiest facility we have ever seen a game in.  Total dump.  Heck, I'd much rather enjoy a game in the UWM Panther Arena downtown.  Frankly, Lexington itself blows chunks.  Now the surrounding countryside..... different story.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: bilsu on August 22, 2014, 11:43:55 AM
+1. Perhaps the crappiest facility we have ever seen a game in.  Total dump.  Heck, I'd much rather enjoy a game in the UWM Panther Arena downtown.  Frankly, Lexington itself blows chunks.  Now the surrounding countryside..... different story.
I am not sure if there is a new Rupp arena, but it holds 24,000 people and is probably always sold out. It also has the Kentucky Basketball Museum attached to it and that is as good or not better than the museum at Lambeau Field.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: warriorchick on August 22, 2014, 12:03:56 PM
I am not sure if there is a new Rupp arena, but it holds 24,000 people and is probably always sold out. It also has the Kentucky Basketball Museum attached to it and that is as good or not better than the museum at Lambeau Field.

So large and full makes a good arena?

And unless they have built it since the 2013 tourney, there is no new Rupp Arena.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on August 22, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
I was stunned by this rankings, which suggests the guy really has not been to many college basketball venues.

Clearly the best, outside the Bradley Center, is Cameron Indoor Arena, home of Duke. I would argue Hinkle Fieldhouse and Memorial Gym in Nashville should be in the Top 10. The latter is a hellhole for opposing teams. 

I know SIU is an on-again, off-again mid-major but their arena being ranked significantly better than our's, Indiana's, Vanderbilt's or Duke's is, well, nuts.

Finally, get UD arena off that list! It's Dayton, forgodsakes. The only reason the world knows about the place is that UD somehow has a hold on its conferences and the NCAA and gets a boatload of games they don't deserve there!
Memorial Stadium in Nashville is a toilet. I think it's worse than the Allstate Arena, but i admit i don't find it as bad as others. At least Allstate sells beer. I was really looking forward to seeing our game at Vanderbilt and once i got there, I was very disappointed.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 23, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Don't tell my boss, but I burst out laughing when I saw Reed Arena up there at number 11. It might have been good back in the day, but it is sorely in need of an update....which it is getting next year!

Also, there have been no fans in Reed Arena since Turgeon left. Well, the women's games are well attended.

So , if Jeff Orr comes to town with Texas Tech, everyone should be able to hear what he has to say.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: dgies9156 on August 23, 2014, 08:11:29 PM
Memorial Stadium in Nashville is a toilet. I think it's worse than the Allstate Arena, but i admit i don't find it as bad as others. At least Allstate sells beer. I was really looking forward to seeing our game at Vanderbilt and once i got there, I was very disappointed.

PR Dreamin, I respectfully disagreed with you. If Beer is a required amenity, most of the college venues in the USA fail miserably.

The fact that Memorial Gym is a concrete monstrosity makes it wonderful. The place is noisy and irreverent. Try going in there when Vanderbilt is playing Tennessee or Kentucky. The place rocks. The year we went we weren't great and there was no natural rivalry between Marquette and Vanderbilt.

The sightlines are generally good and don't compare it to DeStink. At least Nashville supports Vanderbilt consistently.
Title: Re: Bradley Center 33rd for college bball....ahead of the Kohl Hole
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 23, 2014, 08:57:53 PM
So , if Jeff Orr comes to town with Texas Tech, everyone should be able to hear what he has to say.

Bahahahaahaha. +1 to you good sir