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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: NoCheese on August 19, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
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Very sad if true
Retweeted by Josh Marshall
Jared Keller @jaredbkeller 8m
Jesus Christ MT @BNONews: Islamic State, in video, beheads American journalist James Wright Foley who was kidnapped in 2012
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It appears to be true. Sickening.
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There is incomprehensive evil in this world
RIP
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RIP
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Sad to come to Scoop and see this news. Jimmy was a classmate and friend. The nicest guy you would ever want to meet. RIP Jimmy.
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unbelievable!! well, i guess not but come on man. these people(isis) will come for us if they are not stopped. james foley-rip. and praying for peace to the family and friends :(
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unbelievable!! well, i guess not but come on man. these people(isis) will come for us if they are not stopped. james foley-rip. and praying for peace to the family and friends :(
Praying for the family.
Incidently, they didn't "come for him". As a journalist, he knew full well the risk he was taking going into an area like that. Everyone likes to bash the media, but he is a great example of a fine man doing a very tough, demanding job. Many journalists die each year and we all owe them a debt of gratitude for the courageous work that they do.
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barbaric. RIP Foley. May the Lord be with you.
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Sickening. Foley was an astonishingly brave person willing to take incomprehensible risks in view of his principles. I'm proud to have gone to his alma mater. Rest in peace.
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talking about james foley on o'reilly show hosted by eric bollig. just showed a replay of o'reilly's interview with foley back in may 2011. what an experience. getting away once would be good for me, but to go back for more? i realize he knew what he was getting into, but wtf? it's not like he was doing missionary work. does anyone know who published his stuff? he was freelance
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and now the megan kelly show
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The independent news reporter James Foley who was beheaded by ISIS today as I understand it had attended Marquette University (As well as Northwestern).
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RIP
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http://fox6now.com/2014/08/19/report-james-foley-marquette-university-alum-killed/
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/02/article-2256180-16BA04E1000005DC-921_634x512.jpg)
(http://diederich.marquette.edu/Handlers/Photo.ashx?id=2199)
James Foley, journalist and Marquette University alum, beheaded by ISIS
MILWAUKEE (WITI/CNN) — A video released by ISIS shows the beheading of U.S. journalist and Marquette University alum James Foley and threatens the life of another American if President Barack Obama doesn’t end military operations in Iraq.
In the video posted Tuesday on YouTube, Foley is seen kneeling next to a man dressed in black. He reads a message, presumably scripted by his captors, that his “real killer” is America.
“I wish I had more time. I wish I could have the hope for freedom to see my family once again,” Foley can be heard saying in the video.
He is then shown being beheaded.
The National Security Council is aware of the video.
“The intelligence community is working as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity. If genuine, we are appalled by the brutal murder of an innocent American journalist and we express our deepest condolences to his family and friends. We will provide more information when it is available,” NSC spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said.
Foley was held captive in 2011 while reporting on the civil way in Libya. He lived to tell about it. In fact, he returned to the Marquette University campus to speak about his experience.
Foley returned to the Middle Easy to cover an uprising in Syria. On Thanksgiving Day 2012, he disappeared near the border with Turkey. He was reportedly forced into a vehicle by gunmen; he was not heard from again.
Once again, Marquette held a vigil for the family; one his parent attended.
“This is so very different, last time, within three weeks, we knew he was alive, where he was, who had him, we knew he was well,” said John Foley, James’ father.
“Because this one is much longer with such little information, it’s much more difficult,” said Diane Foley, James’ mother.
On Tuesday evening, the Facebook group set up to support Foley and his family, “Free James Foley,” posted a statement from Diane Foley. It read as follows:
We have never been prouder of our son Jim. He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people.
We implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world.
We thank Jim for all the joy he gave us. He was an extraordinary son, brother, journalist and person. Please respect our privacy in the days ahead as we mourn and cherish Jim.
The video also shows another American journalist. His life is said by the militants in the video to hang in the balance, depending on what Obama does next.
The journalist is believed to be Steven Sotloff, who was kidnapped at the Syria-Turkey border in 2013. Sotloff is a contributor to Time and Foreign Policy magazines.
As a freelancer, Foley picked up work for a number of major media outlets, including Agence France-Presse and GlobalPost.
“On behalf of John and Diane Foley, and also GlobalPost, we deeply appreciate all of the messages of sympathy and support that have poured in since the news of Jim’s possible execution first broke,” Philip Balboni, GlobalPost CEO and co-founder, said in a published statement.
“We have been informed that the FBI is in the process of evaluating the video posted by the Islamic State to determine if it is authentic. Until we have that determination, we will not be in a position to make any further statement. We ask for your prayers for Jim and his family.”
Foley had previously been taken captive in Libya. He was detained there in April 2011 along with three other reporters and released six weeks later.
Afterward, he said that what saddened him most was knowing that he was causing his family to worry.
Foley grew up in New Hampshire and graduated from Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism in 2008. Like other young journalists who came of age after the September 11 terror attacks and American wars overseas, Foley was drawn to Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas of conflict.
Friends described Foley as fair, curious and impressively even-tempered.
“Everybody, everywhere, takes a liking to Jim as soon as they meet him,” journalist Clare Morgana Gillis wrote in a blog post about him in May 2013, six months after he disappeared in Syria.
“Men like him for his good humor and tendency to address everyone as ‘bro’ or ‘homie’ or ‘dude’ after the first handshake. Women like him for his broad smile, broad shoulders, and because, well, women just like him.”
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So effen sad.
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I was already finding this hard to process when I saw the headline, then it hit me that it was the same person I had seen posted about here. Sickening. Really really sad.
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RIP, Foley and may peace fill his parents' hearts.
No easy solution to the powder keg and mess that is the Middle East.
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A Patriot dies for Freedom...in this case World Freedom. Here is to Life, Liberty and to the Pursuit of Happiness that Mr. Foley stood up for time and again. Justice will be served. Thank you for those who serve, whether in a uniform or with a microphone. As Gandhi said, in the history of the world, good always wins over evil.
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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Not trying to trivialize this terrible event ... a scoop lurker (reads often but never posts) says that Foley was a poster here several years ago. Same person also said that John Teff (MU '71), the current ambassador to Russia, also posted here.
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I knew Jim Foley at Marquette. He was an incredible person. This is beyond sad or tragic. Jim believed in all the good things that Marquette tries to instill like faith, service to others, and loving other people. He wanted to spend his days spreading the truth about oppressed people, which is how he was first kidnapped in Syria. How he ended up in the hands of Islamic revolutionaries is a story that will be told in time, I guess.
But today we saw pure evil. First in the hands of his murderers and then by the callous voyeurs who used a good man's death as entertainment. It was all heart wrenching and sad.
To bring this around to Marquette, Jim loved Marquette and Marquette basketball. He was a big MU fan and a big Celtics fan in the NBA. I don't know if he posted here, but it would not have surprised me. Big hoops fan and overall an incredibly intelligent guy. To know Foley was to love him.
I know this is just text on a message board, but believe me when I say he was a really great guy. More than just a footnote in a news story by a million miles. Everyone was his friend.
Please say a prayer for him and his family. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.
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I knew Jim Foley at Marquette. He was an incredible person. This is beyond sad or tragic. Jim believed in all the good things that Marquette tries to instill like faith, service to others, and loving other people. He wanted to spend his days spreading the truth about oppressed people, which is how he was first kidnapped in Syria. How he ended up in the hands of Islamic revolutionaries is a story that will be told in time, I guess.
But today we saw pure evil. First in the hands of his murderers and then by the callous voyeurs who used a good man's death as entertainment. It was all heart wrenching and sad.
To bring this around to Marquette, Jim loved Marquette and Marquette basketball. He was a big MU fan and a big Celtics fan in the NBA. I don't know if he posted here, but it would not have surprised me. Big hoops fan and overall an incredibly intelligent guy. To know Foley was to love him.
I know this is just text on a message board, but believe me when I say he was a really great guy. More than just a footnote in a news story by a million miles. Everyone was his friend.
Please say a prayer for him and his family. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.
+1000. Couldn't say it any better Mike. Thanks for adding some additional background on Jimmy.
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I knew Jim Foley at Marquette. He was an incredible person. This is beyond sad or tragic. Jim believed in all the good things that Marquette tries to instill like faith, service to others, and loving other people. He wanted to spend his days spreading the truth about oppressed people, which is how he was first kidnapped in Syria. How he ended up in the hands of Islamic revolutionaries is a story that will be told in time, I guess.
But today we saw pure evil. First in the hands of his murderers and then by the callous voyeurs who used a good man's death as entertainment. It was all heart wrenching and sad.
To bring this around to Marquette, Jim loved Marquette and Marquette basketball. He was a big MU fan and a big Celtics fan in the NBA. I don't know if he posted here, but it would not have surprised me. Big hoops fan and overall an incredibly intelligent guy. To know Foley was to love him.
I know this is just text on a message board, but believe me when I say he was a really great guy. More than just a footnote in a news story by a million miles. Everyone was his friend.
Please say a prayer for him and his family. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.
This is beautiful, thank you for sharing your kind words. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam indeed.
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My daughter was a freshman when James was a "super senior". She didn't really know him but they had close friends in common. They are all devastated. Mix poverty, ignorance and testosterone with religious fanaticism and the results can be beyond brutal.
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I'm sure Marquette will do something to officially honor his memory. The Marquette community already has.
edited for clarity.
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He died a hero. He died a martyr. An epitaph that any can be proud of. May he rest in peace and his family and loved ones find comfort.
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I knew Jim Foley at Marquette. He was an incredible person. This is beyond sad or tragic. Jim believed in all the good things that Marquette tries to instill like faith, service to others, and loving other people. He wanted to spend his days spreading the truth about oppressed people, which is how he was first kidnapped in Syria. How he ended up in the hands of Islamic revolutionaries is a story that will be told in time, I guess.
But today we saw pure evil. First in the hands of his murderers and then by the callous voyeurs who used a good man's death as entertainment. It was all heart wrenching and sad.
To bring this around to Marquette, Jim loved Marquette and Marquette basketball. He was a big MU fan and a big Celtics fan in the NBA. I don't know if he posted here, but it would not have surprised me. Big hoops fan and overall an incredibly intelligent guy. To know Foley was to love him.
I know this is just text on a message board, but believe me when I say he was a really great guy. More than just a footnote in a news story by a million miles. Everyone was his friend.
Please say a prayer for him and his family. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.
I appreciate this wonderful tribute. He sounds like a wonderful person, and I grieve for those like you who lost a friend and loved one.
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Marquette grad Ben Tracy was doing a report on remembering Foley this morning on CBS.
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Marquette grad Ben Tracy was doing a report on remembering Foley this morning on CBS.
nice job, Ben
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/journalist-james-foley-remembered-for-courage-and-compassion/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/journalist-james-foley-remembered-for-courage-and-compassion/)
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He died a hero. He died a martyr. An epitaph that any can be proud of. May he rest in peace and his family and loved ones find comfort.
For what cause exactly?
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For what cause exactly?
The truth!
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For what cause exactly?
All of the freedoms that we enjoy and that ISIS hates us for.
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For what cause exactly?
How about we do something crazy and stay on topic for once. Make this about honoring Mr. Foley and not degenerating into something else. If you must, start another thread.
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nice job, Ben
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/journalist-james-foley-remembered-for-courage-and-compassion/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/journalist-james-foley-remembered-for-courage-and-compassion/)
Thanks NYW!
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The truth!
Thing is, those followers of ISIS, etc, believe what they are doing is every bit as noble and anyone dying for their cause...is a martyr, as well.
Crazy world
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Thing is, those followers of ISIS, etc, believe what they are doing is every bit as noble and anyone dying for their cause...is a martyr, as well.
And if you're consistent in what you preach we have no right to look down on their opinions or criticize their deeply held religious beliefs. I (and most others) differ. Call me judgemental - I'll wear that mantle proudly and let you stick up for the maniacs.
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For what cause exactly?
"Martyr" is a very strong word, and the first definition in most dictionaries ties it to someone killed for his/her religious beliefs.
Mr. Foley obviously was there for a cause he considered just, and he was seeking the truth despite great risks. In my mind, he showed great courage and died a hero.
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All of the freedoms that we enjoy and that ISIS hates us for.
But that's not what he wrote about. He covered the people caught in the middle of conflict.
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Marquette grad Ben Tracy was doing a report on remembering Foley this morning on CBS.
I saw that too. As awful as this story is, it was nice seeing one MU alum reporting on the tragic death of another. He mentioned their Marquette connection and that Foley credited his Jesuit education as a source of his values. It made me proud to be an alum.
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Was Jim a hero? He was not in the service. He was not a police officer. He was not a firefighter. He wasn't even an IRC volunteer. He was a journalist. But unlike the sensationalist, fear-mongering, click-view generating, newspaper-selling "journalists" we encounter stateside on a daily basis, Jim was from the old-school of journalism, doing what reporters are supposed to do -- eliminate ignorance and expose truth. I am positive that Jim made a difference for good. But does that make him a hero?
Did Jim save someone's life? Did he feed the hungered masses? Did he mule a truckload of refugees out of a war zone? Did he so much as even rescue a cat from a tree?
"Hero" is a title that can always be debated. But one point that cannot be argued is that Jim followed his higher calling, and knowingly did so at the potential expense of his own life. How many of us at one time considered the Peace Corps or missionary work and opted not to simply out of convenience or the luxuries we enjoy at home? We have all had similar callings at some point in our life, but the vast majority of those calls go unanswered. For answering his, Jim deserves respect. But does respect alone make you a hero?
Those of you who have seen the stills, the transcript, what did you see? You saw the facial expressions of a proud American, defiant to his captors, reading a statement contrary to his own purported beliefs. It was Ask yourself this: if death is imminent, would you give in? If you've stood for principle your entire life, would you abandon that principle in your last moments? A true martyr does not forsake his cause because he fears death.
So why did Jim give in? Certainly, he was not the one who feared death. Certainly, he was intelligent enough to understand the ramifications of his final words. Certainly, he was not trying to protect himself. Time will tell, but stepping back from the emotion of what happened - though admittedly difficult to do - allows a person to see that Jim was very likely protecting someone else. Who, how and why will hopefully be answered in time, but Jim lived his life knowing that this was the fate he may someday face, and to allege that he selfishly, futilely relinquished at the hands of his captors defies every bit of logic that remains after a senseless act such as this. When his call was coming to an end, do you really think he just hung up the phone, or perhaps, did he surreptitiously pass the receiver to someone else?
Again, whether Jim lived as a hero can be debated. But let's withhold complete judgement for the time being, because it's quite probable that in death, he is... if not to you, personally, at least to someone who is now able to carry forward Jim's spirit because of the sacrifice he made.
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Thoughtful and insightful. Thanks, Benny.
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And if you're consistent in what you preach we have no right to look down on their opinions or criticize their deeply held religious beliefs. I (and most others) differ. Call me judgemental - I'll wear that mantle proudly and let you stick up for the maniacs.
That's why I didn't criticize it. I said it's a crazy world. I work with a number of Muslims, took a number of Islam courses at MU and KU as part of my minor and Masters degree. Some wonderful people. Unfortunately, religious fanaticism from any group, any religion can lead to some behaviors that others don't agree with. I'm not going to paint all of them with a broad brush. The act, itself, is heinous in my opinion and based on my upbringing, which I'm told is WASCish. My point was, others in this world will find their actions acceptable. Thus, it is a crazy world.
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That's why I didn't criticize it. I said it's a crazy world. I work with a number of Muslims, took a number of Islam courses at MU and KU as part of my minor and Masters degree. Some wonderful people. Unfortunately, religious fanaticism from any group, any religion can lead to some behaviors that others don't agree with. I'm not going to paint all of them with a broad brush. The act, itself, is heinous in my opinion and based on my upbringing, which I'm told is WASCish. My point was, others in this world will find their actions acceptable. Thus, it is a crazy world.
Yes, some in the world consider beheadings, rape and enslavement in the name of religion to be acceptable and who are we to judge. What a crock.
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How about we do something crazy and stay on topic for once. Make this about honoring Mr. Foley and not degenerating into something else. If you must, start another thread.
Uh, I did stay on topic. You wrote he died a martyr. I asked what cause you consider him to be a martyr for in his death.
I understand you're defensive, likely as a result of not knowing who or what you are in life, but not every question need be construed as some sort of vault opening you perceive to be a slight either to you or someone who has a nebulous connection to you. It was just a question.
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That's why I didn't criticize it. I said it's a crazy world. I work with a number of Muslims, took a number of Islam courses at MU and KU as part of my minor and Masters degree. Some wonderful people. Unfortunately, religious fanaticism from any group, any religion can lead to some behaviors that others don't agree with. I'm not going to paint all of them with a broad brush. The act, itself, is heinous in my opinion and based on my upbringing, which I'm told is WASCish. My point was, others in this world will find their actions acceptable. Thus, it is a crazy world.
Thanks for referencing my term chics
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I just saw a story that the Pope called Jim Foley's family today to express his condolences.
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I just saw a story that the Pope called Jim Foley's family today to express his condolences.
Cool Pope keeps doing it big!
Not a Catholic but I'm a big fan of Pope Francis' work thus far. Dude gets it. Little things help.
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I just saw a story that the Pope called Jim Foley's family today to express his condolences.
I f*cking LOVE Pope Francis.
That guy is amazing.
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/politics/isis-beatle-convicted-on-all-counts/index.html
It looks like his last killer has now been convicted. Did not know this guy was involved in Foley's murder. I thought that news was worth the bump.
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/politics/isis-beatle-convicted-on-all-counts/index.html
It looks like his last killer has now been convicted. Did not know this guy was involved in Foley's murder. I thought that news was worth the bump.
Thanks for this I was not even aware he was still out there