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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Texas Western on July 28, 2014, 04:32:52 PM

Title: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Texas Western on July 28, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
This scholarship/offer chart for Kentucky is interesting. They have 14 offers out and one scholarship available. Granted the offers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Although at some point when one person does commitment, it will force them into either passing on others or taking a risk on some of the upperclassmen going pro etc. So it makes it pretty hard( although not impossible) for them to sign Diamond Stone Henry  Ellenson  Malik Newman all at the same time.  Which then pushes kids like Montaque Gil Caeser and Caleb Swanigan further down the line If you look  at some of the other major brand name schools you will seen similar patterns.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/kentucky

I like the fact that Wojo has a lot of irons in the fire especially in the 2016 class. 
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Jay Bee on July 28, 2014, 04:42:17 PM
This scholarship/offer chart for Kentucky is interesting. They have 14 offers out and one scholarship available. Granted the offers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Although at some point when one person does commitment, it will force them into either passing on others or taking a risk on some of the upperclassmen going pro etc. So it makes it pretty hard( although not impossible) for them to sign Diamond Stone Henry  Ellenson  Malik Newman all at the same time.  Which then pushes kids like Montaque Gil Caeser and Caleb Swanigan further down the line If you look  at some of the other major brand name schools you will seen similar patterns.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/kentucky

I like the fact that Wojo has a lot of irons in the fire especially in the 2016 class. 

That list needs to be taken with a grain of salt... since it's incorrect.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 28, 2014, 06:28:49 PM
This scholarship/offer chart for Kentucky is interesting. They have 14 offers out and one scholarship available. Granted the offers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Although at some point when one person does commitment, it will force them into either passing on others or taking a risk on some of the upperclassmen going pro etc. So it makes it pretty hard( although not impossible) for them to sign Diamond Stone Henry  Ellenson  Malik Newman all at the same time.  Which then pushes kids like Montaque Gil Caeser and Caleb Swanigan further down the line If you look  at some of the other major brand name schools you will seen similar patterns.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/kentucky

I like the fact that Wojo has a lot of irons in the fire especially in the 2016 class. 

Actually, that chart says that they have no scholarships available, since Charles Matthews commitment has taken the one scholarship that was available for this year according to that table.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 28, 2014, 07:36:54 PM
That list needs to be taken with a grain of salt... since it's incorrect.

This is the second or third time you have done this on this subject.  When will you correct the list for everyone?
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 28, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
Too busy tryin' to circumvent the gift tax rules, aina?
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 28, 2014, 08:02:49 PM
Maybe they are preparing to Calipart with some players.

Don't worry, Kentucky will make plenty of space for whoever they want on their team. I'm sure they could convince old man Poythress to transfer out. Plus, any number of Cauley-Stein, Andrew Harrison, Aaron Harrison, Marcus Lee, Dakari Johnson, Tyler Ullis, Trey Lewis, or Karl Towns Jr. could end up getting drafted next season.

The Stone situation is interesting. Especially if 3 or more of the Cauley-Stein, Lee, Johnson, Lewis, Towns Jr group decide to return for the 15-16 school year. I think Stone would end up sitting in favor of any one of them (Though its not like Kentucky hasn't gotten reserves drafted on potential alone). Plus, everything I have heard seems to indicate that Kentucky prefers Rabb, Zimmerman, and Labissiere to Stone. They also just offered Swanigan.

There is a little more room at Henry's position though...
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: The Equalizer on July 28, 2014, 08:03:05 PM
That list needs to be taken with a grain of salt... since it's incorrect.

Everyone on the list appears to have an offer.  If there is something incorrect, it must be that Cal has more than these 14 offers outstanding.  So who's missing?

Malik Newman:
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketball-2/2015-recruit-malik-newman-shows-why-hes-ranked-1/

Antonio Blakeney:
http://www.chatsports.com/kentucky-wildcats/a/Another-Kentucky-Offer-for-2015-5-Star-Guard-Antonio-Blakeney-0-10088365

Derrick Jones:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/derrick-jones-to-visit-syracuse-kentucky/

Brandon Ingram:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/recruiting-notebook-kentucky-offers-brandon-ingram-kobi-simmons-damontrae-jefferson-carlton-bragg-impress-donovan-mitchell-omari-spellman-christ-koumadje-add-offers/

Montaque Gill-Caesar:
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/03/15/3142801/uk-target-gill-caesar-to-delay.html

Danjel Purifoy:
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/03/15/3142801/uk-target-gill-caesar-to-delay.html

Ivan Rabb:
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/ivan-rabb-lands-an-offer/

Cheick Diallo:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/kentucky-offers-cheick-diallo/

Carlton Bragg:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24598239/illinois-kentucky-kansas-in-hot-pursuit-of-five-star-carlton-bragg

Henry Ellenson:
http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/2014/07/13/wisconsin-post-player-henry-ellenson-earns-uk-offer/

Diamond Stone:
http://www.centralkynews.com/amnews/sports/college/uk/basketball/diamond-stone-did-not-have-a-reason-to-tell-anyone/article_1df2fc8c-a9b7-5b23-807b-915019c051dd.html

Skal Labissiere:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/memphis-kentucky-among-leaders-for-6-11-skal-labissiere/

Stephen Zimmerman:
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/stephen-zimmerman-lists-kentucky-in-his-top-eight/

Caleb Swanigan?
http://zagsblog.com/articles/caleb-swanigan-gets-kentucky-offer-makes-first-u17-cut/


Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on July 28, 2014, 08:17:55 PM
The NCAA should clean up its rules on scholarships.  There should be limits to the number offered.  Players should be required to play three years minimum.  It's time to shape up the college game.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 28, 2014, 08:25:46 PM
Ya can't deny a cat from makin' a livin', aina?
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 28, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
The NCAA should clean up its rules on scholarships.  There should be limits to the number offered.  Players should be required to play three years minimum.  It's time to shape up the college game.

Not sure I agree with that.  Just as MU admits many students, only so many decide to come.  If you limit the number of offers, then you are also limiting the options for the student athlete, which is not a good thing in my opinion. 

The 3 year minimum is done in college baseball.  I'd love to see it, but doubt it will happen in hoops.   IMO, that would be a good tradeoff for going directly to the association \ D-League \ minor league system or commit to 3 years with a guarantee of a scholarship that covers that 3 years.

Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Texas Western on July 28, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
Maybe they are preparing to Calipart with some players.

Don't worry, Kentucky will make plenty of space for whoever they want on their team. I'm sure they could convince old man Poythress to transfer out. Plus, any number of Cauley-Stein, Andrew Harrison, Aaron Harrison, Marcus Lee, Dakari Johnson, Tyler Ullis, Trey Lewis, or Karl Towns Jr. could end up getting drafted next season.

The Stone situation is interesting. Especially if 3 or more of the Cauley-Stein, Lee, Johnson, Lewis, Towns Jr group decide to return for the 15-16 school year. I think Stone would end up sitting in favor of any one of them (Though its not like Kentucky hasn't gotten reserves drafted on potential alone). Plus, everything I have heard seems to indicate that Kentucky prefers Rabb, Zimmerman, and Labissiere to Stone. They also just offered Swanigan.

There is a little more room at Henry's position though...

I am hoping Mr. Stone(the Father) recognizes what you point out and he sees us as a lower risk high reward alternative to Kentucky. That is the case we need to keep making.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 28, 2014, 11:20:45 PM
I am hoping Mr. Stone(the Father) recognizes what you point out and he sees us as a lower risk high reward alternative to Kentucky. That is the case we need to keep making.

I bet that Wisconsin is doing that right now.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: brandx on July 29, 2014, 12:40:55 AM
The NCAA should clean up its rules on scholarships.  There should be limits to the number offered.  Players should be required to play three years minimum.  It's time to shape up the college game.

You aren't making a lot of sense here.

Let's say you are limited to 10 offers per year. What if no one accepts? A couple years in a row? Do you then cancel the season if you can't field a team?

And how can colleges set a minimum? Both legally and practically. Players then become employees - and the NCAA has been arguing the opposite in court.
Title: Re: Diamond, Henry and Kentucky available scholarships
Post by: Texas Western on July 31, 2014, 12:17:16 PM
This scholarship/offer chart for Kentucky is interesting. They have 14 offers out and one scholarship available. Granted the offers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Although at some point when one person does commitment, it will force them into either passing on others or taking a risk on some of the upperclassmen going pro etc. So it makes it pretty hard( although not impossible) for them to sign Diamond Stone Henry  Ellenson  Malik Newman all at the same time.  Which then pushes kids like Montaque Gil Caeser and Caleb Swanigan further down the line If you look  at some of the other major brand name schools you will seen similar patterns.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/kentucky

I like the fact that Wojo has a lot of irons in the fire especially in the 2016 class. 
Todays Montaque Gil Caesar news is line with this thinking.