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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on July 10, 2014, 12:38:55 PM
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Typically these guys go easy on high school players as they are still ... kids. Given that, this is about as harsh a critique of a 17 year old you will see.
Calipari is probably feeling good for not going hard (or "cooling") on Stone.
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Diamond Stone discusses his package deal, recent weight loss
July 10, 2014
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/diamond-stone-discusses-his-package-deal-recent-weight-loss/
PHILADELPHIA — For the second time in two days, the most anticipated matchup of the day at Reebok’s Breakout Classic turned into a bust.
Diamond Stone, the No. 6 ranked recruit in Rivals’ top 150, squared off with Elijah Thomas, who checks in at No. 11, and the two combined to finish without a single field goal and a total of just three points as Thomas’ team put a whooping on Stone’s team. On Wednesday during the opening game of the camp, Stone dominated Skal Labissiere for about five minutes until that second plate of pregame macaroni got the best of him.
Stone struggled with the physicality of Thomas, as he was unable to establish good position on the low block and he couldn’t find a way to bully his way to the rim from 15 feet out.
“There’s a lot of competition, big time guys and guys I know,” Stone told NBCSports.com. “This was a real physical game between me and Elijah. We’re both physical players. The refs weren’t giving a lot of calls, but that’s the way it should be between the two most physical players in the Class of 2015.”
In short, Thursday provided Stone with a template for what he needs to do to take the next step in his development: continue to develop his face-up game and add to his back-to-the-basket repertoire.
“I need to be able to make my moves faster,” he said.
Every prospect at this age is a work in progress, but it’s clear to see that Stone has already started that process of improving. He’s worked on his body, getting rid of some of his baby fat and toning up his physique. His father told NBCSports.com that he’s down to 246 pounds from 263 earlier this year, something that Stone credits to long hours in the gym and the weight room this spring.
As far as Stone’s recruitment in concerned, the big story that all of the recruiting world is talking about is a package deal between him and the nation’s best guard, Malik Newman. Stone told NBCSports.com that nothing is set in stone (pun intended) and that both he and Newman are open to any school that is looking recruit them, individually or together.
As Stone tells it, the two have been friends for years, and that the package deal is more about two buddies that want to go to school together than anythhing.
“We met in eighth grade at John Lucas Camp, and we just connected right there,” Stone said. “He’s one of my best friends. I talk to him every day.”
“Who wouldn’t want to go to college with their best friend?”
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Been reading about Stone in Philly and have not seen anything to get excited about. Instead I read stories like above and this one ....
Nate Morris (’16) got posterized and proved why every coach in the country should recruit him
Jul 11, 2014, 3:00 PM EDT
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/11/nate-morris-16-got-posterized-and-proved-why-every-coach-in-the-country-should-recruit-him/
It didn’t take long for Nate Morris to make a play that resonated with the coaches and the scouts sitting in the stands at Reebok’s Breakout Classic.
In the first quarter of his first game on Wednesday, Morris found himself locking horns with Diamond Stone, the No. 6 recruit in the Class of 2015, when Stone caught a ball in the post and went up with two hands to try and dunk on Morris. Morris met him at the rim and sent the shot back, drawing a series of “oohs” from the crowd that amassed to watch Stone’ matchup with Skal Labissiere.
It’s something that the 6-foot-10 Morris has become accustomed to, as he prides himself on the way that he is able to defend.
“I pride myself on being a defensive players,” Morris, the No. 76 recruit in the Class of 2016, told NBCSports.com. How often do you here that at an elite recruiting event like the Reebok Camp?
But it gets better. Morris lists South Florida, Texas A&M, SMU, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Tulsa and Creighton, among others, as the schools that have offered him, but I have a hard time believing that he won’t collect quite a few more offers in the coming years. When asked what he is looking for in a school, he said “a program that will let me play my way.”
Which is?
“I like setting a whole bunch of picks, getting a lot of movement in and running the floor,” Morris said. In other words, this 6-foot-10, 250 pound 16 year old has no problem doing all of the dirty work that big men are supposed to do. Every coach in the country can use a piece like that. There is a risk, however, to being a guy that challenges everything at the rim, as Morris was on the receiving end of a nasty posterization from Nate Grimes, but that’s not the end of the story. On the next possession, Morris went up to try and challenge a dunk attempt, and three possessions later, he tried to chase down Grimes on the break as Grimes as lining up to throw down a dunk in transition.
In the hoopmixtape era, do you realize how uncommon it is to find a kid that doesn’t care if he ends up on a viral video?
“I’m not worried about it,” he said. “I don’t stop. I don’t care if I get dunked on or not, I’m going to go after you.
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Read Stone's write-up versus the others. Who sounds like the best player? (hint, not Stone)
CBT Quotables Part 1: Jawun Evans, Diamond Stone, Skal Labissiere and more
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/11/cbt-quotables-part-1-jawun-evans-diamond-stone-skal-labissiere-and-more/
C Diamond Stone, No. 6 Class of 2015: “Big, physical big man. He’s got a good skill set and nice footwork around the rim, but he’s not as versatile as a guy like Skal where he can step out and knock down a perimeter jumper. He’s got a good upside and a chance to be special. He’s cut some weight but needs to add lower body strength. He doesn’t hold position in the low post as well as he should.”
C Chase Jeter, No. 8 Class of 2015: “Chase Jeter is a pro. He’s gotten a lot better over the last year or so. Love him as a player and love him as a kid. He has a bright future.”
C Skal Labissiere, No. 14 Class of 2015: “He’s probably the most versatile big man. He’s got a developing skill set and a great feel for the game, inside and outside. He’s got long arms and huge hands. He can hit threes and has a soft touch on his jump hook. He needs to add strength and size to his frame, but isn’t afraid to challenge people at the rim.”
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Sounds like Stone may be letting his rep play for him, rather than performing at the elite level. Maybe his posse is not helping him on the court.
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Would much rather have Henry at Marquette.
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Would much rather have Henry at Marquette.
I'd take either player in a New York minute. 2 of the best 3 frontcourt players I've seen in my years of watching Wisconsin high school basketball. The other was Joe Wolf. Never saw Jim Chones before he came to Marquette.
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One of the great things about the AAU circuit is it allows for transparent comparisons of top level players. There are very few can't miss prospects. However, remember every kid has a good moment and what really counts is being able to do it consistently. I think Diamond has shown he is a consistently strong player in many different venues and that is what puts him in the upper tier.
I continue to believe that we offer Diamond Stone the best combination both on and off the court.
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Would much rather have Henry at Marquette.
That's like saying I'd rather have Kate Upton than Jessica Simpson. You can't go wrong with either one, but of course 50% of men would probably prefer one, and 50% the other. Similar with Diamond and Henry. Ideally...you get both...just like having both Jessica and Kate for a night would be the ultimate scenario. :D
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This sounds like someone who knows what he's talking about.
I'd take either player in a New York minute. 2 of the best 3 frontcourt players I've seen in my years of watching Wisconsin high school basketball. The other was Joe Wolf. Never saw Jim Chones before he came to Marquette.
This does not.
Sounds like Stone may be letting his rep play for him, rather than performing at the elite level. Maybe his posse is not helping him on the court.
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One of the great things about the AAU circuit is it allows for transparent comparisons of top level players. There are very few can't miss prospects. However, remember every kid has a good moment and what really counts is being able to do it consistently. I think Diamond has shown he is a consistently strong player in many different venues and that is what puts him in the upper tier.
I continue to believe that we offer Diamond Stone the best combination both on and off the court.
I agree ... I'm not arguing that Stone is a bad player or anything like that. Rather, he does not seem to be having a good tourney in Philly. It happens.
Maybe the good news is Calipari is their to see it and feeling good about his decision not to go hard (or "cooling") on Stone. That leaves Stone open for others, like MU.
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That's like saying I'd rather have Kate Upton than Jessica Simpson. You can't go wrong with either one, but of course 50% of men would probably prefer one, and 50% the other. Similar with Diamond and Henry. Ideally...you get both...just like having both Jessica and Kate for a night would be the ultimate scenario. :D
Ideally, aren't you in the middle of a Kate Upton, Jessica Simpson sandwich?
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That's like saying I'd rather have Kate Upton than Jessica Simpson. You can't go wrong with either one, but of course 50% of men would probably prefer one, and 50% the other. Similar with Diamond and Henry. Ideally...you get both...just like having both Jessica and Kate for a night would be the ultimate scenario. :D
You're gonna need more stamina, Ners. Like four months worth to get through a whole season.
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Ideally, aren't you in the middle of a Kate Upton, Jessica Simpson sandwich?
Absolutely...that was the point! Gotta have them both...preferably simultaneously. Just like having BOTH Diamond and Henry at MU...not a one or the other thing.
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That's like saying I'd rather have Kate Upton than Jessica Simpson. You can't go wrong with either one, but of course 50% of men would probably prefer one, and 50% the other. Similar with Diamond and Henry. Ideally...you get both...just like having both Jessica and Kate for a night would be the ultimate scenario. :D
Holy SHeet, you are starting to even look like him.
Exorcism, stat!!!
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You're gonna need more stamina, Ners. Like four months worth to get through a whole season.
That's why I do hot yoga 5 times a week Murs. Great for the stamina...and not to mention the classes are loaded with girls in sports bras and yoga shorts. It's a hell of a workout too. Amazing considering you are on basically a 6'6" x 2' mat...and nothing more. NO sprints, no running, none of it...but it kicks your ass.
Unfortunately however, regardless of acquiring good stamina from yoga...I won't be landing Kate or Jessica. ;)
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This sounds like someone who knows what he's talking about.
This does not.
Sorry Murs, just commenting on what the others are saying--guess they don't know anything either, right? But Murs is the all knowing Guru.
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Holy SHeet, you are starting to even look like him.
Exorcism, stat!!!
You know, just having that pic of Derrick in my avatar will help me get off his case. He looks like such a good kid...now seeing his pic next to my name...and future posts..well..it will give me some pause...
But...I also felt there was good humor in putting him in place of my former Buzz cat scratch fever avatar..
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Sorry Murs, just commenting on what the others are saying--guess they don't know anything either, right? But Murs is the all knowing Guru.
Thank you! Finally!
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How often do you here that at an elite recruiting event like the Reebok Camp?
*cringe*
Stone - legit stud. Certified legit.
Chase - strong year of progression; great upside.
Skal - will he be a heavy usage guy ever? Stone yes, Jeter could be. Skal? Ehh.. don't know. But, as an overall player, fantastic. I think he'll be here next week (Minneapolis).
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They don 't serve those sandwiches at Subway.
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A sandwich like that and you would have to worry about a freaky fast delivery.
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I wonder if he is following the Jamil Wilson path. Rated so high early on and then passed up by other players, because they improved more.
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A sandwich like that and you would have to worry about a freaky fast delivery.
Well played
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Diamond Stone is definately overrated. Wasnt impressed when I watched him play and now everyone else is starting to see.
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Thank you! Finally!
Says the guy that believes that Jessica is Kate's equal. 90% of the time red blooded males would pick Kate first over Jessica. After all, who would want Tony Romo's leftovers.
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A sandwich like that and you would have to worry about a freaky fast delivery.
What TAMU said..
Well played
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Says the guy that believes that Jessica is Kate's equal. 90% of the time red blooded males would pick Kate first over Jessica. After all, who would want Tony Romo's leftovers.
Actually that was me who said that Willie. Perhaps I could have picked a better girl than Jessica....but Jessica at the same age as Kate Upton.....was every bit as hot/amazing as Kate Upton today...and when Jessica stays fit....she's still got it going on. I trust John Mayer has had his share of girls and when he said about Jessica Simpson: "That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs aren’t good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack cocaine to me… Sexually it was crazy. That’s all I’ll say. It was like napalm, sexual napalm."
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Actually that was me who said that Willie. Perhaps I could have picked a better girl than Jessica....but Jessica at the same age as Kate Upton.....was every bit as hot/amazing as Kate Upton today...and when Jessica stays fit....she's still got it going on. I trust John Mayer has had his share of girls and when he said about Jessica Simpson: "That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs aren’t good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack cocaine to me… Sexually it was crazy. That’s all I’ll say. It was like napalm, sexual napalm."
I do agree that Jessica was a Hottie several years ago, but let herself go. Somehow, I don't see Kate doing that. Now "sexual napalm", I had not heard that before, but somehow, I expect Keefe to come up with some photos of Israeli chicks that fall within that tag. Cue to Keefe in 3...2...1...
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Only here can we turn a thread about Diamond Stone playing in Philly to a discussion of the relative hotness between Kate Upton and Jessica Simpson ... And do it by page 2!!
For all you newbies, these guys are professionals, do not attempt this at home.
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It's also known as the off-season.
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A sandwich like that and you would have to worry about a freaky fast delivery.
Here is the ultimate Notre Dame fan sandwich: Rosie O'Donnel and Roseanne Barr; followed up with Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala. Sorry, it is the two Heinekens before two martinis.
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Jerry Meyer and mark miller have predicted Stone to UW.
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Would much rather have Henry play for Marquette.
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Jerry Meyer and mark miller have predicted Stone to UW.
Damn it...anywhere but there Diamond. Why??!
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Sounds like Diamond is a long way from deciding anything. See the highlighted part.
Diamond Stone a main draw at Breakout Classic
Posted on July 11, 2014 by jmverlin
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Ari Rosenfeld (@realA_rosenfeld)
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/07/diamond-stone-a-main-draw-at-breakout-classic/
This year’s Reebok Breakout Classic at Philadelphia University brought in over 120 elite prospects from around the country, featuring players from the 2015, 2016, and 2017 classes. Of these 120, 32 of them are ranked in the top 100 of their respective classes, according to 247Sports Composite rankings.
With so much talent assembled in one camp, it can be easy for an individual player to get lost in the shuffle. Fortunately for him, one player certainly did not have to worry about that.
Among so many top 100 players, Diamond Stone was, by any measure, the highest-ranked prospect at Philly U this week. ESPN, Yahoo!, and 247Sports all have him in the top 10 of their 2015 rankings, and each recruiting service ranks him as the top center in the country.
At 6-foot-10 and 255 pounds and possessing a variety of moves and countermoves in the post, Stone is used to dominating wherever he plays. During his junior season at Whitefish Bay Dominican High School in his hometown of Milwaukee, he posted season averages of 24 points and 13 rebounds, while shooting 69 percent from the field.
However, the Breakout Classic presented a different challenge for the Wisconsin native, as he matched up with two top-25 centers, Skal Labissiere and Elijah Thomas, and a rising star in 7-3 Jean-Marc Koumadje in his first three games of the event. He knew he had to shift gears playing against fellow elite big men.
“You don’t take plays off. You’ve gotta play hard every possession,” he said. “They’re top bigs too and they have nice games too. You’ve just gotta never put your guards down and always play hard.”
The matchup against Labissiere was the biggest draw of the camp’s opening night, with coaches like John Calipari, Bo Ryan, and Larry Brown all watching from the front row.
The two elite centers played to a draw with Stone finishing with eight points and three rebounds, and Labissiere matching his eight points and pulling down five rebounds.
Against Thomas on Thursday morning, both players finished without a field goal, with Thomas out rebounding Stone 8-2.
While his numbers were not comparable to those he posted during the high school season (players at the camp also only play about half of each game), Stone was still happy with how he played against such strong competition.
“[Against] Skal I had a little stomach flu, so in the second half I couldn’t finish it off with him,” Stone explained. “But I think I played good against him. Elijah today, me and him went at it. We both didn’t have a field goal, so it was a tough matchup. Physical matchup.”
It was not until his third game, against the towering Koumadje, that Stone truly broke out. He finished the game with 12 points, saying he “went at him pretty nice,” and held Koumadje to just eight points of his own.
He demonstrated his true potential in his final game of the night on Thursday, dominating en route to 19 points and four rebounds, and shooting 7-11 from the field.
It was an impromptu individual battle with GodsPower Ogide that ultimately brought out the best in Stone.
“I’m just playing my game and he just gave me a little bump,” Stone said. “He was just like ‘You know you suck, right?’. I was like ‘Alright.’ So I started playing for real, and then it just started happening. He started asking for the ball, I started asking for the ball. And I just started scoring.”
Although many players might get a bit nervous playing in front of someone like John Calipari, who recently extended an offer to Stone, he took a very smart approach to the situation.
“It’s just a regular game. If he’s not there or if he’s there, I’m playing my game,” Stone said. “All of these wonderful schools are here watching me and everybody else here. So some people might try to do too much out of their games, but I’m just gonna play my game. That’s why they recruit me, to play my game.”
While many of the nation’s premier coaches made a point to watch him play this week, Stone is not worrying too much about his recruitment right now. He has visited Marquette, Wisconsin, Illinois, DePaul, and SMU, but does not yet have a list of his top schools.
Instead, he is using this week’s camp to prepare for the Under Armour Association Finals in Atlanta next week. Stone enters the Association’s championship tournament with averages of 24.8 points (2nd highest in the Association), 11 rebounds (1st), 4.3 blocks (1st) and a 61% field goal percentage for his Milwaukee Young Legends team.
“With this camp, I’m just really trying to practice for Atlanta,” Stone said. “It’s practice for Atlanta. Atlanta is the UA Nationals, so that’s what I’m preparing for.”
“We haven’t really won too many games on the Under Armour circuit, so I think to win in Atlanta, that would be a big statement for us.”
Although he more than held his own in all of his individual matchups this week, the highlight of the camp for Stone actually came off of the court.
The Breakout Classic kicked off its action on Wednesday with a panel featuring a variety of current and former NBA stars, including Shaquille O’Neal, Dominique Wilkins and Shawn Kemp.
Stone, considered a potential NBA prospect down the line, made sure to pay extra attention to their sentiments, and even got some individual advice from Wilkins and Kemp.
“Dominique just told me to just keep working. He liked my number ‘cause I wear Number 21,” Stone said. “He just told me to keep working. He said I have a bright future ahead of me. Shawn Kemp just told me to keep working too. He told me the same things Dominique said.”
While Shaq did not have any advice for the young big man, Stone was still on the NBA legend’s radar.
“Shaq told me he was coming for me, so I don’t know whether to take that good or not,” Stone revealed with a laugh. “He just looked at me, gave me a stare, then pointed at me.”
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A sandwich like that and you would have to worry about a freaky fast delivery.
Won't be $5 either
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello · 28m
Entered new Crystal Ball picks for Diamond Stone and Malik Newman earlier today. Go see what I've got in Storrs: http://247sports.com/User/Jeff%20Borzello/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Recruitment.Year=2015&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Basketball …
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello · 28m
Entered new Crystal Ball picks for Diamond Stone and Malik Newman earlier today. Go see what I've got in Storrs: http://247sports.com/User/Jeff%20Borzello/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Recruitment.Year=2015&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Basketball …
UW for you Mark?
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I'm not Mark Miller......If he wants to stay in state I think it's UW....MU has backed off and is going all out for Ellenson.
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Smart play, better fit
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Speaking of unflattering reports I saw a top 40 ranking of The Lebron Skills Academy and Henry Ellensen came in at #32. Several lower class kids were ranked higher. Noshowiak did not make the top 40.
http://www.studentsports.com/basketball/2014/07/11/lebron-top-35-rankings/
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Badge-Do you think Bo would take Ellenson still or is he not a good fit now for UW?
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Speaking of unflattering reports I saw a top 40 ranking of The Lebron Skills Academy and Henry Ellensen came in at #32. Several lower class kids were ranked higher. Noshowiak did not make the top 40.
http://www.studentsports.com/basketball/2014/07/11/lebron-top-35-rankings/
Lol. #32 recruit in the country unflattering. Gotta love Badger fans. Go to 1 Final Four with Bo and now they think they're Kentucky. Hilarious.
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Speaking of unflattering reports I saw a top 40 ranking of The Lebron Skills Academy and Henry Ellensen came in at #32. Several lower class kids were ranked higher. Noshowiak did not make the top 40.
http://www.studentsports.com/basketball/2014/07/11/lebron-top-35-rankings/
Where's Brevin Pritzl on that list?
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That's why I do hot yoga 5 times a week Murs. Great for the stamina...and not to mention the classes are loaded with girls in sports bras and yoga shorts. It's a hell of a workout too. Amazing considering you are on basically a 6'6" x 2' mat...and nothing more. NO sprints, no running, none of it...but it kicks your ass.
Unfortunately however, regardless of acquiring good stamina from yoga...I won't be landing Kate or Jessica. ;)
As much as I love looking at toned female ass in spandex I will take a six mile run followed by clanking iron in a room full of sweating warriors any day.
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As much as I love looking at toned female ass in spandex I will take a six mile run followed by clanking iron in a room full of sweating warriors any day.
I still lift weights in addition to doing yoga - but yoga has replaced basketball/running/tennis as my cardio - as my knees don't like the abuse anymore. You should give yoga a try Keefe...seriously...think you'd be blown away by how challenging it is. But..you have to go to a Vinyasa Power class. You should check out Core Power Yoga - they have them in Washington - go to a C2, or Sculpt class - pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
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Speaking of unflattering reports I saw a top 40 ranking of The Lebron Skills Academy and Henry Ellensen came in at #32. Several lower class kids were ranked higher. Noshowiak did not make the top 40.
http://www.studentsports.com/basketball/2014/07/11/lebron-top-35-rankings/
I have been to a lot of these. There is tremendous ball hogging and selfish play most of the time. I wouldn't put much stock in the rankings, certain kids do better at showcasing themselves than others. Basketball is a team sport.
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Speaking of unflattering reports I saw a top 40 ranking of The Lebron Skills Academy and Henry Ellensen came in at #32. Several lower class kids were ranked higher. Noshowiak did not make the top 40.
http://www.studentsports.com/basketball/2014/07/11/lebron-top-35-rankings/
Wisconsin forward Henry Ellenson has already climbed into 2015's top 20 and earned five-star status. At No. 17 overall, though, it is possible that he may still be a little bit under ranked. Nobody at camp showed deeper range on their jump shot and he was quite comfortable from behind the NBA line. In the past, the biggest quibble with his game has been that Ellenson settles a little too easily for the deep jumper. On Friday and Saturday at LBJ, Ellenson showed much more off the dribble and was quite active around the rim.
In fact, Ellenson looked so good off the dribble that you have to wonder if he might not be able to play full time on the wing sometime in the next few years. He certainly has the speed and skill to do so, the question is if he can hang with the smaller and quicker athletes he would be matched up with. His older brother recently transferred to Marquette and that has set off a flurry of rumors indicating that he will follow, but Ellenson wouldn't tip his hand.
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Here is the ultimate Notre Dame fan sandwich: Rosie O'Donnel and Roseanne Barr; followed up with Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala. Sorry, it is the two Heinekens before two martinis.
Followed by a Janet Reno palette cleansing after dinner mint
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I still lift weights in addition to doing yoga - but yoga has replaced basketball/running/tennis as my cardio - as my knees don't like the abuse anymore. You should give yoga a try Keefe...seriously...think you'd be blown away by how challenging it is. But..you have to go to a Vinyasa Power class. You should check out Core Power Yoga - they have them in Washington - go to a C2, or Sculpt class - pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
I'm just an old dog set in his ways, Ners. Back in the MU day, my wife used to take yoga lessons at the downtown Y. The teacher was a somewhat famous Yogini, Kathleen Hitchcock. My wife used to make me walk her from Cobeen to the Y and then back to Cobeen because the classes were at night. I mean, she could kick any guy's ass but she was afraid to walk three blocks? I think it was just part of her Training & Conditioning Program for Future Spouse Readiness. Nothing a woman does is ever random.
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Henry continues to impress much more than Stone.
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Henry continues to impress much more than Stone.
Haven't seen either play recently but there is really no reason to put down Stone. Both are fantastic.
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Just read an interesting article that said that none of the three highly rated big-men who were in Philly played particularly well. And that is to be expected in these kinds of games. They are made for wing-type players who want to get out and run/dunk. The centers are too dependent on other players for their games -not to mention that you see very little half-court play.
The best game from any of the bigs was by Labassiere and it was when he went against a guy who was only 6'6".
While these camps are great ways to evaluate players, I don't think they do justice to the "bigs" because of the type of games that are played. I think it is much easier to evaluate them in actual high school games where offenses are actually running plays.