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Title: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: NYeagle on July 10, 2014, 07:40:26 AM
http://zagsblog.com/articles/malik-newman-list-five-schools-for-package-with-diamond-stone/#more-118442



Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 10, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
Stone's father debunked the package deal talk and said there was nothing to it. Stone will go where he wants to go, Newman will go where he wants to go. If they happen to both like the same school, great.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 10, 2014, 09:04:29 AM
kay sera sera
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: bilsu on July 10, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
Stone's father debunked the package deal talk and said there was nothing to it. Stone will go where he wants to go, Newman will go where he wants to go. If they happen to both like the same school, great.
Stone's father is pushing him to go to Wisconsin and my take on it is that Stone is partially using the Newman excuse to get away form UW. What the father says is just pushing the father's agenda and until Diamond said it does not matter to him about playing with Newman, I would take what the father says with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on July 10, 2014, 10:27:39 AM
He listed the schools that are recruiting them as a package, just means MU (and probably lots of other schools) are only focusing on one or the other.

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He listed UConn, Kansas, Kentucky, N.C. State and Miami as schools that have been recruiting them as a package deal.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 10, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
Stone's father is pushing him to go to Wisconsin and my take on it is that Stone is partially using the Newman excuse to get away form UW. What the father says is just pushing the father's agenda and until Diamond said it does not matter to him about playing with Newman, I would take what the father says with a grain of salt.


Where did you hear that Stone's dad wants him at UW?
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MUfan12 on July 10, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Stone's father is pushing him to go to Wisconsin and my take on it is that Stone is partially using the Newman excuse to get away form UW. What the father says is just pushing the father's agenda and until Diamond said it does not matter to him about playing with Newman, I would take what the father says with a grain of salt.

That's some theory, but I would be shocked if any of this is accurate.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on July 10, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
Read the article. There is a difference between narrowing your choices and having been offered. They've been offered by only a few of the same schools. If MU or Duke for that matter offers both then they'd be on the list.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: bilsu on July 10, 2014, 11:32:17 AM

Where did you hear that Stone's dad wants him at UW?
Badger site
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 10, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
Badger site


Well...OK....
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on July 10, 2014, 03:55:12 PM

Well...OK....

HAHA!  +1
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MU82 on July 10, 2014, 04:06:30 PM

Where did you hear that Stone's dad wants him at UW?

And why?

Not trying to be snarky. Really want to know.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: bilsu on July 10, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
And why?

Not trying to be snarky. Really want to know.
He likes Bo and of course he thought Buzz was scuz.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MUfan12 on July 10, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
He likes Bo and of course he thought Buzz was scuz.

FFS.

You need to stop reading the Badger board for your recruiting news.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MU82 on July 10, 2014, 11:38:48 PM
He likes Bo and of course he thought Buzz was scuz.

He sounds like a smart man. Smart enough to know that Buzz has taken his scuz more than 700 miles away, right?
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MUeng on July 11, 2014, 12:11:06 AM
Badger site
yea, those guys...
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 11, 2014, 02:29:58 AM
Stone's father is pushing him to go to Wisconsin and my take on it is that Stone is partially using the Newman excuse to get away form UW. What the father says is just pushing the father's agenda and until Diamond said it does not matter to him about playing with Newman, I would take what the father says with a grain of salt.

"As far as Stone’s recruitment in concerned, the big story that all of the recruiting world is talking about is a package deal between him and the nation’s best guard, Malik Newman. Stone told NBCSports.com that nothing is set in stone (pun intended) and that both he and Newman are open to any school that is looking recruit them, individually or together. "

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/diamond-stone-discusses-his-package-deal-recent-weight-loss/
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Texas Western on July 11, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
What is good for Malik Newman is not necessarily good for Diamond Stone. At Marquette Diamond will be the featured player with lots of playing time. At Kentucky that is not a guaranteed thing.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 08:34:54 AM
He likes Bo and of course he thought Buzz was scuz.


He very well might like Bo.  And yeah I heard he didn't much care for Buzz from other sources.

I just don't know if that means he prefers Diamond to go there.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 11, 2014, 08:40:04 AM
"Helllloo Newman!"
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: bilsu on July 11, 2014, 09:18:18 AM

He very well might like Bo.  And yeah I heard he didn't much care for Buzz from other sources.

I just don't know if that means he prefers Diamond to go there.
It most certainly did, when Diamond as a sophomore said he was going to play in his home state. Things have changed a lot since then. Wojo is here and Buzz is not and Diamond is now looking to play out of state. I think originally Diamond liked Buzz even though his father did not. The flip side of this is you can think this shows Diamond does not see Bo as someone he wants to play for. With UW's success under Bo and the fact there is no other center on the team virtually guaranteeing that Diamond would start his freshmen year at UW you would of thought Diamond would of committed to UW a long time ago. He did not and I could be wrong, but I do not think he will go to UW.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 09:19:29 AM
Yeah, my guess is UConn or UK.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: NersEllenson on July 11, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
Yeah, my guess is UConn or UK.

I agree...though wouldn't rule MU out.  I'm sure Diamond is getting plenty of feedback from Duane and others at MU on early impressions of Wojo...which from all I've heard from the players perspective has been extremely positive.

Think Wojo's focus on skill development is huge, as is his experience working under Coach K and for USA basketball, and having the exposure and experience working with LeBron and the rest of the best.  Not to mention Jabari Parker holding Wojo in high regard.

Diamond comes to MU....there is a very, very good chance the team in 2016-2017 with Diamond as a sophomore...and Duane, Dawson, JJJ, Burton and Luke as seniors could be a National Championship caliber team...that would be 3 Top 50 recruits, one Top 10 recruit...and if Ellenson is here too...whoa...two Top 10s paired with 3 senior Top 50s...
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 09:49:22 AM
I think Marquette's chances are incredibly small.  I don't think anyone from Marquette's staff has even watched him this week.  Wojo has been with Ellenson.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: BCHoopster on July 11, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Where are the other coaches then?  I know Wojo is the key player in recruiting, but you can not be in 3 different places.  Is there a coach at Homestead watching Heldt?
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MUfan12 on July 11, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
He's not coming to Marquette. He's not going to Wisconsin.

As Sultan said, UConn/UK are good bets. UCLA isn't a bad shout either.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 09:59:40 AM
Is there a coach at Homestead watching Heldt?


Yes.  I think Carrawell is there.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Tugg Speedman on July 11, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
I think Marquette's chances are incredibly small.  I don't think anyone from Marquette's staff has even watched him this week.  Wojo has been with Ellenson.

When I suggested that Ellenson to UW was small because Bo was on Philly watching Stone, that was dismissed.  How come Wojo going to Vegas means we are out of the Stone derby?

Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Tugg Speedman on July 11, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
New Name vying for Stone .... Maryland

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bal-diamond-stone-nations-no-1-center-wants-to-visit-maryland-terps-20140711,0,1333012.story

http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/7/10/5889249/diamond-stone-recruiting-maryland

Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2014, 10:34:13 AM
My guess is UNC. But Kentucky, UConn, and UCLA aren't bad guesses. Marquette is still in it last I heard. But I think that chance is getting smaller.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 11, 2014, 10:54:48 AM
I think Marquette's chances are incredibly small.  I don't think anyone from Marquette's staff has even watched him this week.  Wojo has been with Ellenson.

Between the Heldt commitment and the hard push for Ellenson, I get the impression that Stone isn't a priority for Wojo.
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
When I suggested that Ellenson to UW was small because Bo was on Philly watching Stone, that was dismissed. 


Not by me it wasn't. 
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 11, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
I'm very down with Ellenson over any one else
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: MuMark on July 11, 2014, 11:34:27 AM
Jerry Meyer just predicted Stone to UW
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Jerry Meyer just predicted Stone to UW


Six months ago, if it was mentioned that both Stone and Ellenson might stay in state, did anyone think it could be Ellenson to MU and Stone to UW?
Title: Re: Newman's package with Stone does not include Marquette
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 11, 2014, 11:46:19 AM

Six months ago, if it was mentioned that both Stone and Ellenson might stay in state, did anyone think it could be Ellenson to MU and Stone to UW?

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