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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: chapman on July 02, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
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http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/marq-m-baskbl-sched.html
Nov 8: vs. Wisconsin Lutheran (exhibition)
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Nov 14: vs. Tennessee-Martin
Nov 18: @ Ohio State
Nov 22: vs. Nebraska-Omaha
Nov 24: vs. NJIT
Nov 27, 28, 30: Orlando Classic (Georgia Tech, Kansas, Michigan State, Rhode Island, Rider, Santa Clara, Tennessee)
Dec 6: vs. Wisconsin
Dec 16: vs. Arizona State
Dec 22: vs. North Dakota
Dec 28: vs. Morgan State
Wisconsin Lutheran College (Milwaukee, WI) is an NCAA Division III member. Enrollment is approx. 1,090. Its nine-building campus sits on the border of Milwaukee and Wauwatosa, with some buildings in each city.
Tennessee-Martin (Martin, TN) is an Ohio Valley member. 8-23 (3-13) last year with an RPI of 333. Looks like they return most of their contributors at least. :-\
Ohio State (Columbus, OH) is a Big Ten member. 25-10 (10-8) last year with an RPI of 24. They made the NCAA tournament as a 6 seed, losing to Dayton in their first game. This is the third year in a row that Marquette has had Ohio State on its schedule; the Carrier Classic in Charleston was cancelled in 2012, and Ohio State won 52-35 in Milwaukee in 2013 after being tied 19-19 at halftime.
Nebraska-Omaha (Omaha, NE) is a Summit League member. 17-15 (5-9) last year with an RPI of 214 and a CIT tournament appearance. The Summit has become a pretty decent conference for buy games if you can avoid the dud (like IUPUI last year). Thumbs up on this buy game.
New Jersey Institute of Technology (Newark, NJ) is D1 basketball's lone independent; after turning a program that had once lost 51 straight games into the Great West Conference regular season title in 2013, the conference folded as a result of football realignment, leaving NJIT as perhaps the worst realignment victim of all. 13-16 last year, with four of those wins coming against non-D1 teams and an RPI of 306, they represent a cheap and easy to schedule buy game, though shouldn't be Grambling-level atrocious on the SOS ranking.
Orlando Classic (formerly Old Spice Classic), HP Field House, Orlando, FL. Three NCAA teams in 2013, and five without postseason play. Snapshot of field with 2013 results:
Kansas (Big 12): 24-9 (14-4), RPI #3, NCAA 2 seed, Round of 32
Michigan State (Big Ten): 26-8 (12-6), RPI #18, NCAA 4 seed, Elite Eight
Tennessee (SEC): 20-12 (11-7), RPI #41, NCAA 11 seed, Sweet 16
Rhode Island (A-10): 13-18 (5-11), RPI #155
Georgia Tech (ACC): 16-17 (6-12), RPI #157
Rider (MAAC): 14-17 (9-11), RPI #198
Santa Clara (WCC): 12-19 (6-12), RPI #209
Wisconsin (Moscow, USSR) is a Big Ten member. 26-7 (12-6), RPI of 6. They were a 2 seed in the NCAA tournament, falling to Kentucky in a national semifinal. Expected to be in the top five in the preseason polls.
Arizona State (Phoenix, AZ) is a Pac 12 member. 21-12 (10-8), RPI of 44. ASU had a 10 point halftime lead last season in Tempe, and held on to defeat Marquette 79-77. ASU made a trip to the Bradley Center in March as a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament, falling to 7-seeded Texas, but the Sun Devils lose their top four players in scoring (54.2 PPG) and minutes (126.7 MPG).
North Dakota (Grand Forks, ND) is a Big Sky member. 17-17 (12-8), RPI of 211 and a CIT tournament appearance. A big unknown, as they lose their top six players in scoring and minutes. Quinton Hooker is the leading returnee, averaging 17.6 MPG and 4.2 PPG as a freshman last season.
Morgan State (Baltimore, MD) is a MEAC member. 15-16 (11-5), RPI of 226 in 2013. They lose their top three in scorering (45.3 ppg) and minutes (90.9 mpg). Leading returnee is Cedric Blossom, a forward who averaged 23.5 mpg, 6.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg as a sophomore.
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In those conferences a terrible team can become a decent team relatively quickly (see UW-Milwaukee last year vs the year before). Hopefully they don't wind up being an absolute dog. We could use a better SOS than we had last year (but not too many tough teams, please).
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In those conferences a terrible team can become a decent team relatively quickly
Where did you hear that??
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Too bad there is not a network and time for the game at Ohio State yet, since Nov. 18 is the day of the ESPN 24 hour marathon.
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UT-Martin is there alma mater of Pat Summit. The floor of their fieldhouse is named after her, making her the only person to have two D1 basketball courts bearing his/her name.
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This was also announced at the BBQ.
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Only 4 months away!
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This was also announced at the BBQ.
What was?
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I believe this is the first time in a long time that we've seen TENNESSEE and MARTIN in a Marquette thread.
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Where did you hear that??
Sources close to the administration. #donedeal.
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Bump with the Orlando Classic field. Doesn't look so intimidating when you pull the 2013 results, with half the field having losing records last year and 5/8 not making postseason play. But really all about the draw...
If they set it up as expected, we would draw one of the teams with losing 2013-14 records first; a win would put us against MSU or KU with Tennessee playing the other. Going 2-1 would likely mean a win against MSU, KU, or Tennessee with a championship requiring wins against two of the three.
The easiest 2-1 path would be dropping the first game against one of the bottom four, and collecting two wins against two more bottom four teams...probably not an RPI-friendly result to get three of the RPI #150+ and zero top 41 teams if they would remain in that range next year.
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Rhode Island scares me.
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Rhode Island scares me.
Agreed. I ran into a couple of scary dudes from Pawtucket flying into PVD a few years back.
One kind of actually looked like a nasty Peter Griffin.
Also, what's up with Old Spice no longer sponsoring the Orlando Classic?
Something smells fishy there...
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Agreed. I ran into a couple of scary dudes from Pawtucket flying into PVD a few years back.
One kind of actually looked like a nasty Peter Griffin.
Also, what's up with Old Spice no longer sponsoring the Orlando Classic?
Something smells fishy there...
On Rhode Island, I'm being serious. Truth shall be revealed this year & next.
As for the Old Spice being out of the Orlando Classic.. that's a new one for me. Hadn't realized they were out. My favorite part of the tourney last time was the "spray stations" in the arena's concourse where you could try out the latest offerings from Old Spice.
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Does it look like we may have 11 non conference games this year? They have announced 7 and say a four game home stand is coming after that ( I am not including the exhibition). Seems like we have been playing 12-13 games.
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Does it look like we may have 11 non conference games this year? They have announced 7 and say a four game home stand is coming after that ( I am not including the exhibition). Seems like we have been playing 12-13 games.
I would expect 13, with one of them being a "preliminary" Orlando Classic game at home, unless the Old Spice change messes anything up.. but that should be workable.
So you have 27 games + 1 exempt tourney of 4 for a total of 31. 18 con, 13 nonconf.
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We should petition to play in Atlantis.
Just need a great reason to go: water and bball.
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We haven't done the D-III thing in awhile. Does that count in one's total allotment of games during a season or is it regarded by the NCAA as a glorified practice? In the past, was it simply added as a bonus ticket meaning that instead of say 17 home dates we'll get an 18th other thing equal?
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It is a preseason game. Buzz dropped those in favor of closed scrimages against a division one team. We were bascially charged the same season ticket price even though we could not see the closed scrimages.
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Yeah, he did those scrimmages to protect our NCAA seeding, aina?
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We haven't done the D-III thing in awhile. Does that count in one's total allotment of games during a season or is it regarded by the NCAA as a glorified practice?
Neither. Let's set aside foreign tours for this discussion.
Each school has two exemptions to use - you can mix and match up to a max of 2 between (a) an exhibition against a non D-I school [which can be advertised, fans can come in, pay, etc.) and (b) a scrimmage against outside competition (including other D-I schools -- however, there are minimal allowances for people to attend the scrimmage).
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We haven't done the D-III thing in awhile. Does that count in one's total allotment of games during a season or is it regarded by the NCAA as a glorified practice? In the past, was it simply added as a bonus ticket meaning that instead of say 17 home dates we'll get an 18th other thing equal?
If we do the D3 thing I'd prefer us to play against really good teams like UW Whitewater or UW SP. That way we get good ticket sales from their fans and we get decent competition unlike say MSOE.
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Neither. Let's set aside foreign tours for this discussion.
Each school has two exemptions to use - you can mix and match up to a max of 2 between (a) an exhibition against a non D-I school [which can be advertised, fans can come in, pay, etc.) and (b) a scrimmage against outside competition (including other D-I schools -- however, there are minimal allowances for people to attend the scrimmage).
Thanks Jay. So I guess a coach balances the ability to scrimmage a top flight opponent in a completely controlled environment (Buzz' style in recent years) against the ability to open the doors, sell tickets and beer, and simulate real game conditions against an opponent that will be considerably weaker than the bench players your starters face every day in practice. I can see both having some advantage. Guess I'm happy that I might get to see more hoops if I choose to make the drive.
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Thanks Jay. So I guess a coach balances the ability to scrimmage a top flight opponent in a completely controlled environment (Buzz' style in recent years) against the ability to open the doors, sell tickets and beer, and simulate real game conditions against an opponent that will be considerably weaker than the bench players your starters face every day in practice. I can see both having some advantage. Guess I'm happy that I might get to see more hoops if I choose to make the drive.
Yeah... I think what's best depends on your team. I still think usually the closed door work with a D-I opponent is more beneficial, but... THIS ARTICLE (http://www.gopherhole.com/news_article/show/113173?referrer_id=388419)is a few years old, but does talk about some different perspectives (some quotes below, including from Dwight Burke)...
As I struggled to find reasons to not be completely anti-exhibition, I reached out to a player who has actually taken part in both exhibitions and scrimmages. Dwight Burke (Marquette '09) is currently playing for Hermine Nantes Atlantique in the France Pro B league (the same league as former Gopher Blake Hoffarber), but during his college days played in scrimmages against both Nebraska and Kansas State in addition to playing in preseason exhibition games against non-Division I opponents. Although Dwight believes teams generally get more out of a closed scrimmage, his perspective as a student-athlete helped me realize there are benefits to an exhibition contest other than the revenue generated for the programs competing.
Players have been stuck in the weight room and practice gym since they've been back on campus and to actually suit up and play a "real" game is both exciting and fun for them. The opponent isn't a Division I team, but Burke says, "the actual in-game experience with referees, fans and the whole atmosphere is something you can't substitute with a closed-door scrimmage." In addition, Burke talked about working on the "dominating factor", where you learn how to not give a team daylight once you get them down. The feeling and belief that your team is going to be able to close out games when the season starts is very beneficial, "it's a confidence builder for a team and confidence for any NCAA program is essential", said Burke.
Especially for a team with many new faces, I can see the benefit of an exhibition in a "real game" setting. I still believe that with regard to player instruction, scrimmages provide more benefit and I won't complain even a tiny bit if Minnesota moves away from exhibition games in the future. Are the eight Big Ten schools that competed against another Division I team this past weekend better off than they would have been had they played the equivalent of Bemidji State? Probably. However, the two contests at Williams Arena over the next week will offer good learning experiences for the players and will give fans eagerly awaiting the start of the new season the chance to see most of the 2011-12 roster in action.
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I would expect 13, with one of them being a "preliminary" Orlando Classic game at home, unless the Old Spice change messes anything up.. but that should be workable.
So you have 27 games + 1 exempt tourney of 4 for a total of 31. 18 con, 13 nonconf.
Any sense Jay if the rest will be Buy games? Last year we did the one-timer with New Mexico. My recollection is that the Dave Gavitt BEast/Big10 challenge isn't until '15-'16 so maybe starting a H/H with an opponent like Vandy or LSU isn't in the cards given tOSU this year. Perhaps any conversation with UWM or UWGB on a 3 or 4 for 1?
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Wisconsin (Moscow, USSR)
;D
Nicely done Chapman!
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I would expect 13, with one of them being a "preliminary" Orlando Classic game at home, unless the Old Spice change messes anything up.. but that should be workable.
So you have 27 games + 1 exempt tourney of 4 for a total of 31. 18 con, 13 nonconf.
It's looking like 12 games for MU, as Kansas and Michigan State got the 4th game as a home game for the Old Spice Classic.
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It's looking like 12 games for MU, as Kansas and Michigan State got the 4th game as a home game for the Old Spice Classic.
Huh? I think you're confused.
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I graduated from Wisconsin Lutheran for my undergrad. Their girls team might compete better than their guys....
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Rhode Island scares me.
Me too. Not a team a people should sleep on.
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Huh? I think you're confused.
How so?
MU will be playing 12, not 13 non conference games. 3 in Orlando.
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How so?
MU will be playing 12, not 13 non conference games. 3 in Orlando.
What does, "as Kansas and Michigan State got the 4th game as a home game for the Old Spice Classic" mean or have anything to do with MU's schedule?
Three in Orlando - yes. However, they may play four in the Orlando Classic.
Please read 17.3.5.1.1 of the D-I Manual if you have questions.
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What does, "as Kansas and Michigan State got the 4th game as a home game for the Old Spice Classic" mean or have anything to do with MU's schedule?
Three in Orlando - yes. However, they may play four in the Orlando Classic.
Please read 17.3.5.1.1 of the D-I Manual if you have questions.
In most cases 4 of the 8 in the Old Spice Field, only gets the 4th game. Kansas & Michigan State are the two. (Rider-Kansas & Santa Clara-Michigan St) There has not been anything out for MU playing the 4th game. They didn't last time as well.
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Correction on #mubb opponent for Nov. 24. MU will face NJIT, not Mount St. Mary's, at the @BMOHBC before @OrlandoClassic
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Correction on #mubb opponent for Nov. 24. MU will face NJIT, not Mount St. Mary's, at the @BMOHBC before @OrlandoClassic
Odd...wonder if a last minute scheduling issue or just a mess up on whoever updated it and MSM will just happen in December?
Also "officially" put up the UW game on GoMarquette.com.
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In most cases 2 of the 8 in the Old Spice Field, only gets the 4th game. Kansas & Michigan State are the two. (Rider-Kansas & Santa Clara-Michigan St) There has not been anything out for MU playing the 4th game. They didn't last time as well.
What? "gets the 4th game" doesn't make any sense - there isn't just one 4th game. It's all a matter of scheduling and negotiations. MU could have 30 or 31 - it's not dependent on KU and MSU. I can think of at least 4 of the 8 who played a non-bracketed Old Spice Classic game last year. It just depends.
Could be 3, could be 4.
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What? "gets the 4th game" doesn't make any sense - there isn't just one 4th game. It's all a matter of scheduling and negotiations. MU could have 30 or 31 - it's not dependent on KU and MSU. I can think of at least 4 of the 8 who played a non-bracketed Old Spice Classic game last year. It just depends.
Could be 3, could be 4.
Saw this at the bottom of the empty "bracket" page, left in from last year's field:
Non-Bracketed Game(s): Memphis at Oklahoma St (Nov 19) & Siena at Purdue (Nov 24)
So those four had the extra game last year...odd that the two marquee teams played at OSU first as part of the tournament.
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Saw this at the bottom of the empty "bracket" page, left in from last year's field:
Non-Bracketed Game(s): Memphis at Oklahoma St (Nov 19) & Siena at Purdue (Nov 24)
So those four had the extra game last year...odd that the two marquee teams played at OSU first as part of the tournament.
"The extra game" isn't "THE" is my point. In many situations, teams in a tourney will play another team that isn't involved in the bracketed games at all.. but it's "included" in the tournament..
i.e., you may have 8 teams in a 'field' that everyone sees in the bracket.. but some or even all 8 of those teams have played one non-bracketed game against a 'preliminary opponent'... the reason for this is to get in a 31st game (27 games + 1 exempt tourney is allowed, with a max of 4 games in the tourney... so you marry a game that isn't "really" a part of the tourney into the tourney to get to 31 games).
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Correct! However you want to word it, because everyone is saying the same meaning, just wording it different.
I'm guessing MU will have 30 total games, not 31. Meaning 12 non-conference, not 13.
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"The extra game" isn't "THE" is my point. In many situations, teams in a tourney will play another team that isn't involved in the bracketed games at all.. but it's "included" in the tournament..
i.e., you may have 8 teams in a 'field' that everyone sees in the bracket.. but some or even all 8 of those teams have played one non-bracketed game against a 'preliminary opponent'... the reason for this is to get in a 31st game (27 games + 1 exempt tourney is allowed, with a max of 4 games in the tourney... so you marry a game that isn't "really" a part of the tourney into the tourney to get to 31 games).
That game really "IS" part of the tourney, otherwise the teams playing a non-bracked game last year would have exceeded their 27 game + one qualifying regular-season multiple-team event limitation under 17.3.5.1 that you cited above.
Given that MU is in the Orlando Classic tournament, as of right now scheduled to play 3 games in that tournament, and can only play 27 other games (prior to the conference tournament), our schedule is currently capped at 30 games plus the Big East Tournament.
Marquette has no independent authority to "marry" another game on its schedule to the Orlando Classic to reach 31 games. What could possibly happen is that the organizers of the Orlando Classic schedule another non-bracketed game and invite Marquette to either host or play, getting us to 4 games in that particiular tournament.
That would, when added to our other 27 games, give us a total of 31.
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That game really "IS" part of the tourney, otherwise the teams playing a non-bracked game last year would have exceeded their 27 game + one qualifying regular-season multiple-team event limitation under 17.3.5.1 that you cited above.
Given that MU is in the Orlando Classic tournament, as of right now scheduled to play 3 games in that tournament, and can only play 27 other games (prior to the conference tournament), our schedule is currently capped at 30 games plus the Big East Tournament.
Marquette has no independent authority to "marry" another game on its schedule to the Orlando Classic to reach 31 games. What could possibly happen is that the organizers of the Orlando Classic schedule another non-bracketed game and invite Marquette to either host or play, getting us to 4 games in that particiular tournament.
That would, when added to our other 27 games, give us a total of 31.
No. You don't understand the scheduling process or the financial/contractual aspects. MU might play 30, they may play 31 (with a non play-in, loosely-related-to-the-Orlando-Classic game).
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So far MU has announced 8 games and have said there will be 3 more home games after Wisconsin. That is a total of 11. I guess that implies if we are going to have 12 games we will have one more road game after that....maybe ND?
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No. You don't understand the scheduling process or the financial/contractual aspects. MU might play 30, they may play 31 (with a non play-in, loosely-related-to-the-Orlando-Classic game).
No,
Under 17.5.3.1, the NCAA says teams can play 27 games plus one in-season tournament.
There is no or provision for "loosely-related" games.
So, therefore, the only way that MU can play a 31st game this year is to play 27 games plus 4 in the Orlando Classic.
Yes, Marquette could always request the organizers of the Orlando Classic to add another game to the tournament that would include MU. And that would probably include some financial/contractual aspects.
But it would be entirely at the discretion of the organizers. If for whatever reason the organizers don't want to add another non-bracketed game to the 2014 Orlando Classic, then Marquette is capped at 30 games for the season--27 plus 3 games as part of the Orlando Classic as currently scheduled.
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Off topic here but what tourney are we in for the 15' season? Just like to see a little ways ahead for these things.
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Based on the schedule release so far, it looks like we will have one more home game (17 vs 16) than recent seasons due to the addition of the exhibition. Any chance the exhibition is played at the Al and isn't part of the season ticket package?
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Based on the schedule release so far, it looks like we will have one more home game (17 vs 16) than recent seasons due to the addition of the exhibition. Any chance the exhibition is played at the Al and isn't part of the season ticket package?
Should be at the Bradley Center to get the new staff and the team acclimated to playing there prior to the regular season.
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It'd be nice for us to set up another home-away agreement with UWGB, though with Sykes back, this is a ballgame that could easily not go our way in 2014. In 2015, this would be a great chance to rub UWGB's noses in all the recruits we won over them.
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Arizona State confirmed for 12/16. Thought they'd do a buy game on that Sat/Sun/Mon after finals week, but unless something isn't yet confirmed, there will be a 10 day window between UW and ASU.
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Looks like ASU will be Luke Fischers first game. Hopefully we can schedule a couple more before the start of the Big East season.
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Arizona State confirmed for 12/16. Thought they'd do a buy game on that Sat/Sun/Mon after finals week, but unless something isn't yet confirmed, there will be a 10 day window between UW and ASU.
MU has always played a home game after finals on that Saturday. I'm stunned there is no game on Dec. 13.
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I'm alright with it. Those post-finals game on that Saturday have usually been dire. Give the guys a couple days to refocus on a decent opponent, rather than coast past a cupcake.
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I'm alright with it. Those post-finals game on that Saturday have usually been dire. Give the guys a couple days to refocus on a decent opponent, rather than coast past a cupcake.
College football regular season is over on Dec. 13, other than Army-Navy, so it would be nice to have a game to go attend. :-\ That will be five tough games in a row for MU.
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MU welcomes North Dakota (@UNDMBasketball) to the @BMOHBC Dec. 22 to continue homestand.
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MU welcomes North Dakota (@UNDMBasketball) to the @BMOHBC Dec. 22 to continue homestand.
A ten day break between UW and ASU, then another six day break? Interesting. Would think the next game has to be Dec 27 or later, so are they: getting in two games in a few days before conference play starts, playing one OOC game during the conference season, another game that isn't finalized played earlier in the schedule, or none of the above?
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A ten day break between UW and ASU, then another six day break? Interesting. Would think the next game has to be Dec 27 or later, so are they: getting in two games in a few days before conference play starts, playing one OOC game during the conference season, another game that isn't finalized played earlier in the schedule, or none of the above?
When MU announced the UW game, they mentioned a "4 game homestand."
So that includes UW, ASU, North Dakota and presumably a cupcake game between Christmas and New Years.
If the BE season starts on NYE like last year, I can't see MU playing a road game before that. My guess is that we have some sort of road / neutral OOC game during the BE season.
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Ugh, North Dakota is going to SUCK next season. They were ranked 258 in KenPom last season and they are losing 83% of their offense this offseason. They will be a sub 300 team, a definite RPI drain.
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Maybe we play at the Garden the Super Bowl weekend as part of double header the way Georgetown and Michigan State did last year? Maybe us and Notre Dame?
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Maybe we play at the Garden the Super Bowl weekend as part of double header the way Georgetown and Michigan State did last year? Maybe us and Notre Dame?
Could be, but I thought that was a one time deal because the Super Bowl was in the area and also on Fox.
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MU concludes 14-15 non-league schedule Dec. 28 vs. Morgan St. at the @BMOHBC.
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MU concludes 14-15 non-league schedule Dec. 28 vs. Morgan St. at the @BMOHBC.
A lot of most likely sub 250 teams on the schedule. But the Orlando Classic and OSU should help with that.
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When MU announced the UW game, they mentioned a "4 game homestand."
So that includes UW, ASU, North Dakota and presumably a cupcake game between Christmas and New Years.
If the BE season starts on NYE like last year, I can't see MU playing a road game before that. My guess is that we have some sort of road / neutral OOC game during the BE season.
Hmm. There has to be more in December though. Can't fathom MU is playing only 4 games in December. Still two open Saturday slots on the 13th and 20th with Luke eligible beginning the 16th. Perhaps working on a H/H? Perhaps a neutral? Perhaps something with UWM or UWGB that premature to announce? The '4 game homestand' statement seems odd. There's only 11 D-1 games for the moment.
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Well the tweet said concludes, which means they are done. Some one should tweet Broeker, with the question.
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Do any of you guys remember that bulletin board web site where college hoops teams solicit for games?
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Do any of you guys remember that bulletin board web site where college hoops teams solicit for games?
This?
http://www.basketballtravelers.com/game-schedule-board/?e_type=1
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2013
tOSU
@ASU
Tourney Game 1
Tourney Game 2
Tourney Game 3
@UW
New Mex (N)
2014
@tOSU
Tourney Game 1
Tourney Game 2
Tourney Game 3
UW
ASU
I haven't checked the respective number of buy games but it looks like last year we had one more marquee game
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I'm looking forward to MU coming out West to the Bay Area for Juan's last tour with the Warriors.
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I'm looking forward to MU coming out West to the Bay Area for Juan's last tour with the Warriors.
Omaha?
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Ugh, North Dakota is going to SUCK next season. They were ranked 258 in KenPom last season and they are losing 83% of their offense this offseason. They will be a sub 300 team, a definite RPI drain.
Perhaps we could petition to play their hockey team instead of the basketball team?
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2013
I haven't checked the respective number of buy games but it looks like last year we had one more marquee game
Given the transitions this year and lack of size during most of non-conference, I think that's probably fine. I'm expecting us to go 3-3 in those games, and will feel pretty good about things if we can do better than that.
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This?
http://www.basketballtravelers.com/game-schedule-board/?e_type=1
Lots of good potential prospects on this...
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UNLV would be nice---If not Creighton is looking for a game.
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Well the tweet said concludes, which means they are done. Some one should tweet Broeker, with the question.
lol, no it doesn't.
Ugh, North Dakota is going to SUCK next season. They were ranked 258 in KenPom last season and they are losing 83% of their offense this offseason. They will be a sub 300 team, a definite RPI drain.
Nope. North Dakota will be fine.
PS - I will bet anyone who disagrees!
1) MU will have more than 11 nonconf games; and
2) North Dakota won't be a sub-300 RPI team.
Either, or. Please.
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lol, no it doesn't.
Nope. North Dakota will be fine.
PS - I will bet anyone who disagrees!
1) MU will have more than 11 nonconf games; and
2) North Dakota won't be a sub-300 RPI team.
Either, or. Please.
What is your best guesstimate on how many non conference games we will play?
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lol, no it doesn't.
Nope. North Dakota will be fine.
PS - I will bet anyone who disagrees!
1) MU will have more than 11 nonconf games; and
2) North Dakota won't be a sub-300 RPI team.
Either, or. Please.
I'm poor so I have nothing to offer, but I'll take the action on North Dakota being sub 300 in KenPom. 258 this season, losing 83% of their offense, and bring in a transfer from UMKC, a no name JUCO, and 3 2 star freshmen. That spells bottom 50 for me.
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Well the tweet said concludes, which means they are done. Some one should tweet Broeker, with the question.
Not necessarily, concludes could also only mean it is the last non-conference game
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Well anyways, Broeker said they are looking to add one more game.
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Well anyways, Broeker said they are looking to add one more game.
Yeah, the tweet was poorly worded. They were concluding their announcements of the non-conference schedule.
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Well anyways, Broeker said they are looking to add one more game.
For my money it'll either be on 12/13 or 12/20 and be a 'buy' game or the first of a new contract with UWM. If I were them, I'd very much want MU to help christen my 'new' Arena with an overflow crowd that I just paid $3.4MM to name. Let us also not forget the Lovell connection. I personally think it would be fun. Bet we could get a 4-1, especially if we started on the 'road'.
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I think it will be a neutral site game similar to what we had with New Mexico last year. While rumored, that game wasn't confirmed until late July last year. Also the Michigan State / Georgetown part of the MSG double header wasn't announced until August.
How about a double header that includes MU v. ND in Chicago?
EDIT: I gotta admit glow...your UWM scenario makes some sense.
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I think it will be a neutral site game similar to what we had with New Mexico last year. While rumored, that game wasn't confirmed until late July last year. Also the Michigan State / Georgetown part of the MSG double header wasn't announced until August.
How about a double header that includes MU v. ND in Chicago?
EDIT: I gotta admit glow...your UWM scenario makes some sense.
MU Notre Dame in United Center would be great. Give each team an equal allocation of tickets.
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MU Notre Dame in United Center would be great. Give each team an equal allocation of tickets.
Home game for ND but I'd still love to see it.
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Home game for ND but I'd still love to see it.
Why do you say that? We have a huge contingent from Chicago and both schools are close enough that they'd bus students in.
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Why do you say that? We have a huge contingent from Chicago and both schools are close enough that they'd bus students in.
Oh it would be well attended by MU, I'm sure, but it in an arena that big (21,000 people), it would still be 70/30 ND fans.
South bend is basically a far suburb of Chicago. The Tribune has an ND beat writer. If you are Catholic or Irish and grew up in Chicago (which is like half of Chicago), you are probably an ND fan.
Think of it this way, when MU plays DePaul at the Allstate, they are a majority of the fans but it is only 17,500 capacity, and the arena is half empty. Probably 5,000-6,000 MU fans go to each DePaul game.
If you get 8,000 MU fans at the United Center, everyone else is going to be a Notre Dame fan, which means we'd be in the minority, which makes it basically a road game.
All that said, I'd still love to see it.
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For my money it'll either be on 12/13 or 12/20 and be a 'buy' game or the first of a new contract with UWM. If I were them, I'd very much want MU to help christen my 'new' Arena with an overflow crowd that I just paid $3.4MM to name. Let us also not forget the Lovell connection. I personally think it would be fun. Bet we could get a 4-1, especially if we started on the 'road'.
UWM has the Badger coming in this year on Dec. 10, so MU wouldn't happen in the same year at UWM Panther Arena. I agree on your first line, Dec. 13 or Dec. 20 for a "buy" game.
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Any word on getting that final non conference game?
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I'm poor so I have nothing to offer, but I'll take the action on North Dakota being sub 300 in KenPom. 258 this season, losing 83% of their offense, and bring in a transfer from UMKC, a no name JUCO, and 3 2 star freshmen. That spells bottom 50 for me.
North Dakota's RPI WAS 197 THIS YEAR
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North Dakota's RPI WAS 197 THIS YEAR
I would like to see us get a couple more cupcakes on the schedule. I think W's matter a lot in Wojo's first year.
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North Dakota's RPI WAS 197 THIS YEAR
Ok. I was talking about KenPom.
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UWM has the Badger coming in this year on Dec. 10, so MU wouldn't happen in the same year at UWM Panther Arena. I agree on your first line, Dec. 13 or Dec. 20 for a "buy" game.
Good info BCB. I agree that it won't happen as a road game for us as a result. There goes THAT theory!