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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 09:48:17 PM

Title: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 09:48:17 PM
I hear he is asking way over market.

Poorly decorated too.

http://www.shorewest.com/homes/1360946_METRO-2370_W_Saddlebrook_Ln-Mequon-WI-53097-1768#.U2Bjcmt5mSM
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Post by: 🏀 on April 29, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
That's a lot of poorly designed angles.
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Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 10:03:42 PM
13,000 SF. 22 rooms. Noveau riche. Irresponsible. Embarassing. A lot of compensation going on there. In no way surprising.
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Post by: Jay Bee on April 29, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
"Energy-saving" design

lol
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Post by: martyconlonontherun on April 29, 2014, 10:04:41 PM
That would be an interesting house to try to sell. I think it would be pretty cool, but I doubt many in that price range want a giant gym attached to their house.
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Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
"Energy-saving" design

lol

My first thought was that warehouse would make even Al Gore blush...
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Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
That would be an interesting house to try to sell. I think it would be pretty cool, but I doubt many in that price range want a giant gym attached to their house.

If anyone living in Milwaukee has a hair on their ass they'll get a tour but leave an upper decker in the master sh1tter
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Post by: warriorchick on April 29, 2014, 10:11:15 PM
That does it. 

I finally had to put Keefe on ignore.
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Post by: Norm on April 29, 2014, 10:12:53 PM
Gotta love the MU designed in the glass behind the bar in picture #17. Also looks like he had MU colored drapes in his office.
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Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 10:13:28 PM
That does it. 

I finally had to put Keefe on ignore.

Still pouting about my criticism of Larry??
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Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on April 29, 2014, 10:17:58 PM
Need to get the floor in 18 sanded. That was his twitter photo.
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Post by: Newsdreams on April 29, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
I hear he is asking way over market.

Poorly decorated too.

http://www.shorewest.com/homes/1360946_METRO-2370_W_Saddlebrook_Ln-Mequon-WI-53097-1768#.U2Bjcmt5mSM
Says $2,350,000
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Post by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 10:19:15 PM
That does it. 

I finally had to put Keefe on ignore.

Chick, just do it.  Bragging about it is kind brew77ish.
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Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 10:20:18 PM
Says $2,350,000

What's astounding is you get that much house for 2.4 bills. Different deal on the west coast.
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Post by: Newsdreams on April 29, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
Gotta love the MU designed in the glass behind the bar in picture #17. Also looks like he had MU colored drapes in his office.
+1 Yea would like one like that
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Post by: Newsdreams on April 29, 2014, 10:24:51 PM
What's astounding is you get that much house for 2.4 bills. Different deal on the west coast.
Yeah no way you would get a house that size with 3.18 for that prize down here.
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Post by: Avenue Commons on April 29, 2014, 10:28:21 PM
What's astounding is you get that much house for 2.4 bills. Different deal on the west coast.

Or Chicago. Taxes are only $24k? Crazy.

I kind of like the house. Furniture is garish, though.

But that custom court is for a man who had plans of being around for a while. Instead he got ran out of town. Part of me is sympathetic.
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Post by: real chili 83 on April 29, 2014, 10:29:38 PM
What's the logo on the court?
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Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 29, 2014, 10:34:55 PM
You can have a Bazz's BBQ of your own!!!
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Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 29, 2014, 10:59:12 PM
Someone has to buy that house and reverse the juju.

That's his Brewers jersey in the home theater room right?

And what does TW initials stand for?
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Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 29, 2014, 11:07:16 PM
Costco furniture throughout.
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Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 29, 2014, 11:12:30 PM
What's astounding is you get that much house for 2.4 bills. Different deal on the west coast.

Yup.  

This one in Newport Beach, about the same price but only 2,800 square feet.  In Mequon you get an extra 15,000 square feet.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/202-Agate-Ave_Newport-Beach_CA_92662_M29566-44128?row=3&source=web
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Post by: madtownwarrior on April 29, 2014, 11:15:05 PM
certainly not a place of anyone who thought they would be leaving anytime soon when they built it....

tough sale other than high end folks in the basketball world...
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Post by: Benny B on April 29, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
TW = Team (Bazz) Williams
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Post by: Marquette Gyros on April 29, 2014, 11:31:05 PM
You Might Be A Redneck (Who Hit the MF-ing Jackpot) If...
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Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 29, 2014, 11:37:54 PM
You Might Be A Redneck (Who Hit the MF-ing Jackpot) If...

That's racist
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 01:49:06 AM
Yup.  

This one in Newport Beach, about the same price but only 2,800 square feet.  In Mequon you get an extra 15,000 square feet.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/202-Agate-Ave_Newport-Beach_CA_92662_M29566-44128?row=3&source=web


Same price in Bellevue, WA for 3,400 sf High Rise Town Home (No indoor basketball court or tasteless bar)

http://www.estately.com/listings/info/10672-ne-9th-place--1
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Post by: sailwi on April 30, 2014, 06:18:41 AM
That is definitely upper end price in Milwaukee, especially if it is not on the lake.  Someone elsewhere said Ray Allen owned it before Buzz.  IIRC didn't Skile's buy Crean's old house.
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Post by: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2014, 07:44:42 AM
That does it. 

I finally had to put Keefe on ignore.


Funny, his post makes me wanna shake his hand. Thata boy, Crash.
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Post by: Freeport Warrior on April 30, 2014, 08:00:55 AM
If anyone living in Milwaukee has a hair on their ass they'll get a tour but leave an upper decker in the master sh1tter
Ignore au contraire — Thanks for the early morning lol
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Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 30, 2014, 08:02:15 AM
That is definitely upper end price in Milwaukee, especially if it is not on the lake.  Someone elsewhere said Ray Allen owned it before Buzz.  IIRC didn't Skile's buy Crean's old house.

the listing estimates that it was built in 2010
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Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 08:06:59 AM
That is definitely upper end price in Milwaukee, especially if it is not on the lake.  Someone elsewhere said Ray Allen owned it before Buzz.  IIRC didn't Skile's buy Crean's old house.

Yup.  Skiles musta liked Joanie's double wide decorating tastes.
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Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 08:49:57 AM
Gotta admit it, Brent had a real nice place. But after knowing who the previous owner was, even if I had the money would not want to live in the same dwellings as him.
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Post by: MUMonster03 on April 30, 2014, 09:07:38 AM
The place probably wasn't big enough for his ego. 2.3M builds a much bigger house in Blacksburg.
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Post by: Lennys Tap on April 30, 2014, 09:19:01 AM
Gotta admit it, Brent had a real nice place. But after knowing who the previous owner was, even if I had the money would not want to live in the same dwellings as him.

You don't like Ray Allen?
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Post by: frozena pizza on April 30, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
I was hoping to see pictures of the garage painted Colorado State colors.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 30, 2014, 09:25:57 AM
1st thought: DANG! I'm in the wrong line of work.

2nd thought: This seems kind of creepy ex-girlfriendish. "I saw you sold your house today. What already moving in with that whore? She'll never love you like I did."

(https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1389286255/8015145.gif)
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Post by: GOO on April 30, 2014, 09:26:17 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 09:29:20 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Don't with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

Bert said a lot of things that he didn't really mean
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Post by: humanlung on April 30, 2014, 09:35:15 AM
Where's the still?

For $2.4 mil, I want me some of Curly's down-home copper pots.
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Post by: Lennys Tap on April 30, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

Judge not lest ye be judged.
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Post by: warriorchick on April 30, 2014, 09:36:55 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

Buzz could have easily afforded this house and still have plenty of money to give to charity. He earned his money honestly; he had every ethical and moral right to spend it in the way he saw fit.  
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Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 30, 2014, 09:43:14 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

Dude, it's all bull$hit.

The key to life is to say what you want others to think you believe in long enough for you to fool yourself and only then is moral self-righteousness truly granted and a life above reproach worth living. Preferably, in a god awfully decorated house.
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Post by: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
Crean previously lived in Stonefields. Skiles bought his crib. Ray Allen in Eastwyn Bay.
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Post by: Avenue Commons on April 30, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
Here's what $2.5M gets you on Chicago's North Shore in the best school district. Nice house no doubt, but not much bigger than a Brookfield or Mequon McMansion.

http://www.redfin.com/IL/Kenilworth/202-Winnetka-Rd-60043/home/13783436
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Post by: warriorchick on April 30, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
Dude, it's all bull$hit.

The key to life is to say what you want others to think you believe in long enough for you to fool yourself and only then is moral self-righteousness truly granted and a life above reproach worth living. Preferably, in a god awfully decorated house.

Are we even sure this is Buzz's furniture?  This house doesn't even look like anyone is living in it any more.  This decorating might be "staged".  

Even so, they did a crappy job. And if this is Buzz's furniture, they should have put it storage and decorated with the type of furniture that most people with $2 million houses own.
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Post by: Badgerhater on April 30, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
Realtors rent furniture and stage it in houses like this one so ripping on it is shallow and just wanting to be a hater.

There are more houses in Mequon/River Hills area with gyms than you think.  If you are invited to play hoops in one do take advantage of the opportunity.

Buzz earned his money while at Marquette and in America you get to spend it how you want.   Speaking of "Jesuit principles", MU is going to spend a pile of money on a new Jes Res that will no doubt include plenty of a amenities for those who have taken a "vow of poverty".
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 10:04:47 AM
Buzz could have easily afforded this house and still have plenty of money to give to charity. He earned his money honestly; he had every ethical and moral right to spend it in the way he saw fit.  

Morality is not a financial equation. But there is no ethical justification for 6 people living in that monstrosity. Being able to afford has nothing to do with being responsible.

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Post by: barfolomew on April 30, 2014, 10:08:02 AM
Are we even sure this is Buzz's furniture?  This house doesn't even look like anyone is living in it any more.  This decorating might be "staged".  

Even so, they did a crappy job. And if this is Buzz's furniture, they should have put it storage and decorated with the type of furniture that most people with $2 million houses own.

Something tells me that even an amateur house stager would not have selected the blue and gold faux leather chairs in the billiards room...
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 10:12:08 AM
Something tells me that even an amateur house stager would not have selected the powder blue and gold faux leather chairs in the billiards room...


That ain't no billiards room! That's the fancy eatin' parlor!

http://www.youtube.com/v/8g_LkfsIuFw?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
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Post by: Nukem2 on April 30, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
Crean previously lived in Stonefields. Skiles bought his crib. Ray Allen in Eastwyn Bay.
That's correct.  TC also lived in Knightsbridge before Stonefields.  So, the HC has moved from Knightsbridge to Stonefields to Saddlebrook Park.  Upward mobility at its best.
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Post by: willie warrior on April 30, 2014, 10:13:37 AM
Maybe Marotta or McIlvane could step up here to help Buzz out.
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Post by: avid1010 on April 30, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Buzz could have easily afforded this house and still have plenty of money to give to charity. He earned his money honestly; he had every ethical and moral right to spend it in the way he saw fit.  
nah.  the bishop in atlanta felt the same way about his $2+ million mansion...
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Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 10:31:38 AM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

have you seen some of the cribs that those mega-church pastors live in?
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
Knightsbridge to Stonefields to Saddlebrook Park.  

Who comes up with these names? Lord Basingstoke?
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Post by: avid1010 on April 30, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
anyone notice that almost all the art work is gone...except the cross and wall art that says "family"....
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Post by: avid1010 on April 30, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
have you seen some of the cribs that those mega-church pastors live in?
ah, don't rip my prosperity gospel.  it's how a rationalize sh!t. 
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Post by: WarhawkWarrior on April 30, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
Jed Clampett
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Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 30, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
If you are going to stage a house that is at the top of the price range you better believe someone with smarts is going to rent upper end furniture to impress'
Obviously money doesn't equate with taste but what other people do with their money is no affair of mine.
My guess is that part of the decision to buy a place like that is the desire for some privacy.
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Post by: Lennys Tap on April 30, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
have you seen some of the cribs that those mega-church pastors live in?

When Billy Graham was asked why he wore $500 suits ($2500 by today's standards) his reported reply was:"The Lord sendeth them down and they fitteth"
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Post by: T-Bone on April 30, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
What sort of Texan is he?  He never built a giant outdoor smoke pit?  Pfft.
Pass.
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Post by: madtownwarrior on April 30, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
why judge Buzz for spending how he did for his family to maybe have some comfort, privacy in the bizarre hectic world he lived in AND do great things for others and charity like Buzz's Bunch.



I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.
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Post by: Avenue Commons on April 30, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Buzz earned his money while at Marquette and in America you get to spend it how you want.   Speaking of "Jesuit principles", MU is going to spend a pile of money on a new Jes Res that will no doubt include plenty of a amenities for those who have taken a "vow of poverty".

Do Jesuits take a vow of poverty? I think there are some orders that do not, but I may be mistaken.
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Post by: Sir Lawrence on April 30, 2014, 10:58:11 AM
Do Jesuits take a vow of poverty? I think there are some orders that do not, but I may be mistaken.

They do.

Diocesan priests do not.  Most Order priests take a vow of poverty. 
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Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 30, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
Realtors rent furniture and stage it in houses like this one so ripping on it is shallow and just wanting to be a hater.

An ironic quote....  Not that being a badgerhater is a bad thing.
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Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 30, 2014, 11:07:07 AM
That's correct.  TC also lived in Knightsbridge before Stonefields.  So, the HC has moved from Knightsbridge to Stonefields to Saddlebrook Park.  Upward mobility at its best.

I can only think of Harrod's of Knightsbridge in London when I read that.
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Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 11:07:23 AM
Do Jesuits take a vow of poverty? I think there are some orders that do not, but I may be mistaken.

individual Jesuit vows include poverty.  The order on the other hand, can own things.  Thus the Buicks (probably Lexi or Infinitis now) in the Jes Res lot behind Schroeder.
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Post by: MattyWarrior on April 30, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
From sweeping floors to living like a king,coaching salaries in college ball are outrageous,land of opportunity!
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Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2014, 11:12:12 AM
Says $2,350,000

RE Taxes, utilities, maintenance, cleaning got to be 100k/year.  Potential buyers?  About half a dozen players for the Milwaukee Bucks.  Does he start another one of these in Blacksburg?  Will he stay there long enough to finish it?  Who will buy one in Blacksburg with no professional basketball team there?
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Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 11:19:54 AM
I can only think of Harrod's of Knightsbridge in London when I read that.

Exactly. For a couple years I split time between HK and London. My office was in Knightsbridge but we lived in Hampshire. Knightsbridge is a nice area but it was nice to live outside of London.
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Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
why judge Buzz for spending how he did for his family to maybe have some comfort, privacy in the bizarre hectic world he lived in AND do great things for others and charity like Buzz's Bunch.


SOME comfort, privacy?  It's the kind of house that you can easily lose your family members in.
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Post by: Blackhat on April 30, 2014, 11:34:03 AM
That realtor chick is eye fu#ing the sh*& out of me.
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Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 30, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Realtors rent furniture and stage it in houses like this one so ripping on it is shallow and just wanting to be a hater.

There are more houses in Mequon/River Hills area with gyms than you think.  If you are invited to play hoops in one do take advantage of the opportunity.

Buzz earned his money while at Marquette and in America you get to spend it how you want.   Speaking of "Jesuit principles", MU is going to spend a pile of money on a new Jes Res that will no doubt include plenty of a amenities for those who have taken a "vow of poverty".

I assume this is directed to me.

Sure, there is likely some staging in the house but what of the rug in the foyer?
What of the random mustard green wall paint with a steel grey living room?
What of, basically, the entire office with two toned drapery, a gold chair, and a love seat presumably made of Buzz' former "Al's Day" jackets?
What of the tiger stripped "love seat" style dining room chairs?
What of the terrible tan and blue mixed faux leather set in the basement?
What of the dime store throwaway outdoor furniture ruining the best part of the property in the backyard paver patio?

I'm not "just being a hater" as you suggest. I truly feel it is decorated in an awful manner whether it is all Williams, all the stager, or a combination of both. If my brother owned this house, I'd tell him it was awful.

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: chapman on April 30, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
RE Taxes, utilities, maintenance, cleaning got to be 100k/year.  

After hearing what people in WI were paying in houses that could fit inside the basketball court of this one, I'd love to know what the heating bill was on that place this winter.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MattyWarrior on April 30, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
Is Wainwright still living in the outbuilding and maintaining the grounds?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Badgerhater on April 30, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
An ironic quote....  Not that being a badgerhater is a bad thing.

As mentioned in a previous thread, Badgerhater is my last name.  ;)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 12:08:11 PM
I honestly didn't know we had so many guys here with the interior decorating deft touch. 

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 30, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
I honestly didn't know we had so many guys here with the interior decorating deft touch. 



HGTV is filling the void of college basketball on the DVR of scoopers
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on April 30, 2014, 12:19:40 PM
I would have guessed that you guys would have loved this place.  It's basically a 17,000-square-foot Man Cave.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: sailwi on April 30, 2014, 12:24:06 PM
I love the internet, in 2 minutes determined the listing agent has 2 months of experience, not exactly the experience I would have looked for to move a 2.3M house.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 30, 2014, 01:02:44 PM
My source told the story of being seated next to Mrs. Bazz and their children on a flight back from FL a few weeks ago, the family still lives in that house until the kids finish school.

And all 5 were wearing VT garb on a flight to MKE.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: klyrish on April 30, 2014, 01:06:19 PM
13,000 sq. ft.
7 bedrooms
6 bathrooms

How did he last 5 years in that hovel?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: barfolomew on April 30, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
Is Wainwright still living in the outbuilding and maintaining the grounds?

That visual just struck me as every Scooby Doo villain ever.

"The real ghost is...
[removes headpiece]
Old man Wainwright?!"
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Process on April 30, 2014, 01:15:13 PM
HGTV is filling the void of college basketball on the DVR of scoopers

I'm watching HGTV right now.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 01:15:54 PM
That visual just struck me as every Scooby Doo villain ever.

"The real ghost is...
[removes headpiece]
Old man Wainwright?!"


Post of the day. Had me laughing in class.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
HGTV is filling the void of college basketball on the DVR of scoopers

BBC for me. Some real quality television shows on there. But today I will be on FS1 cheering on the Blues from Chelsea.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Process on April 30, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
My source told the story of being seated next to Mrs. Bazz and their children on a flight back from FL a few weeks ago, the family still lives in that house until the kids finish school.

And all 5 were wearing VT garb on a flight to MKE.

But did your Source Respect the Process?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GOO on April 30, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Well, maybe I am Judging.  I think of it more of not understanding how "living large" can align with one's professed Christian beliefs.  I read the bible different them some, and yes different than the mega church pastors flying around on private jets.  

But, I know I am in the minority, in that I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.  I have my vices, and even though I try to live "simply" I live too well and too Western/American.  So, maybe I am judging and a hypocrite as well...?

I am very thankful for the introduction to basic Buddhist/Jesuit philosophies at a young age that allowed me to see the disconnect between our Western thinking of consumption (and linking possessing things to happiness.... or if I just had this much or that I'd be happy and have enough) and where true happiness is found.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 01:39:52 PM
Well, maybe I am Judging.  I think of it more of not understanding how "living large" can align with one's professed Christian beliefs.  I read the bible different them some, and yes different than the mega church pastors flying around on private jets.  

But, I know I am in the minority, in that I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.  I have my vices, and even though I try to live "simply" I live too well and too Western/American.  So, maybe I am judging and a hypocrite as well...?

I am very thankful for the introduction to basic Buddhist/Jesuit philosophies at a young age that allowed me to see the disconnect between our Western thinking of consumption (and linking possessing things to happiness.... or if I just had this much or that I'd be happy and have enough) and where true happiness is found.

Well its a good thing im an atheist, religion in general is overly complicated and really confuses me.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
My source told the story of being seated next to Mrs. Bazz and their children on a flight back from FL a few weeks ago, the family still lives in that house until the kids finish school.

And all 5 were wearing VT garb on a flight to MKE.

well, you know Corey was hittin up the VT spirit shop the day the deal was reached.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2014, 01:43:04 PM
See that newly poured concrete in back? That's where Larry W's remains are buried.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 01:48:06 PM
I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.

Precisely. There is an ethical and moral component to consumption. People who cannot see that are callous, crass, or merely lying to themselves.

There is a significant ethical dimension to the decision to live in 13,000 sf. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
That realtor chick is eye fu#ing the sh*& out of me.

sadly, that's not the realtor, just Shorewest's internet biscuit trying to drive traffic.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: avid1010 on April 30, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
Well, maybe I am Judging.  I think of it more of not understanding how "living large" can align with one's professed Christian beliefs.  I read the bible different them some, and yes different than the mega church pastors flying around on private jets.  

But, I know I am in the minority, in that I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.  I have my vices, and even though I try to live "simply" I live too well and too Western/American.  So, maybe I am judging and a hypocrite as well...?

I am very thankful for the introduction to basic Buddhist/Jesuit philosophies at a young age that allowed me to see the disconnect between our Western thinking of consumption (and linking possessing things to happiness.... or if I just had this much or that I'd be happy and have enough) and where true happiness is found.
nicely put. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GOO on April 30, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
Precisely. There is an ethical and moral component to consumption. People who cannot see that are callous, crass, or merely lying to themselves.

There is a significant ethical dimension to the decision to live in 13,000 sf. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Well said.  I appreciate the support!

And, chitownwarrior2011, you can be an atheist and follow Buddhist principals as a matter of ethics and a way to live.  They actually work well together.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 30, 2014, 02:08:40 PM
But did your Source Respect the Process?

You have my total respect The Process
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 30, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
I love the internet, in 2 minutes determined the listing agent has 2 months of experience, not exactly the experience I would have looked for to move a 2.3M house.

it looked to me like 2 experienced broads, not the young honey on shorewest's page.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 30, 2014, 02:14:08 PM
I'm watching HGTV right now.

Is there an episode of House Hunters showing in Mequon?  A young couple looking for way more space for their growing family.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Newsdreams on April 30, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
Well, maybe I am Judging.  I think of it more of not understanding how "living large" can align with one's professed Christian beliefs.  I read the bible different them some, and yes different than the mega church pastors flying around on private jets.  

But, I know I am in the minority, in that I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.  I have my vices, and even though I try to live "simply" I live too well and too Western/American.  So, maybe I am judging and a hypocrite as well...?

I am very thankful for the introduction to basic Buddhist/Jesuit philosophies at a young age that allowed me to see the disconnect between our Western thinking of consumption (and linking possessing things to happiness.... or if I just had this much or that I'd be happy and have enough) and where true happiness is found.
Communist
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: madtownwarrior on April 30, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
why spend all that time posting funny pictures on message boards - is there not some significant ethical dimension to the decision to not spend that time helping others?

so where does one draw the line?   should Buzz live in a 2000 sq ft home?   what if he lives in a 30,000 sq ft home but donates a $1M a year to charity?   or what if he lives in a 2000 sqft home and donates nothing....  is there a difference?

do you drive anything more than an entry level car?   if you don't - you must be callous, crass or lying to yourself if you think that is OK?  



Precisely. There is an ethical and moral component to consumption. People who cannot see that are callous, crass, or merely lying to themselves.

There is a significant ethical dimension to the decision to live in 13,000 sf. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on April 30, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
That visual just struck me as every Scooby Doo villain ever.

"The real ghost is...
[removes headpiece]
Old man Wainwright?!"


"And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on April 30, 2014, 02:32:31 PM
Is there an episode of House Hunters showing in Mequon?  A young couple looking for way more space for their growing family.

I think House Hunters in Blacksburg would be way more interesting.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 30, 2014, 02:34:44 PM
Well, maybe I am Judging.  I think of it more of not understanding how "living large" can align with one's professed Christian beliefs.  I read the bible different them some, and yes different than the mega church pastors flying around on private jets.  

But, I know I am in the minority, in that I see moral and ethical issues with how we spend our money and consume resources.  To me, how we spend does in fact have an ethical and moral component, especially when it involves consuming a tremendous amount of resources at a price to our fellow humans and future generations.  I have my vices, and even though I try to live "simply" I live too well and too Western/American.  So, maybe I am judging and a hypocrite as well...?

I am very thankful for the introduction to basic Buddhist/Jesuit philosophies at a young age that allowed me to see the disconnect between our Western thinking of consumption (and linking possessing things to happiness.... or if I just had this much or that I'd be happy and have enough) and where true happiness is found.

Don't get me wrong, GOO. I agree that true joy in life has nothing to do with consumption or possessions. I try (not always successfully) to be mindful of that. But I also believe that it's a free country. If someone wants the bigger house, the 12oz filet rather than the 8oz, the 16oz beer rather than the 12oz I don't thank God for making me more enlightened than them.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
why spend all that time posting funny pictures on message boards - is there not some significant ethical dimension to the decision to not spend that time helping others?

so where does one draw the line?   should Buzz live in a 2000 sq ft home?   what if he lives in a 30,000 sq ft home but donates a $1M a year to charity?   or what if he lives in a 2000 sqft home and donates nothing....  is there a difference?

do you drive anything more than an entry level car?   if you don't - you must be callous, crass or lying to yourself if you think that is OK?  




I donate 100% of my USAF medical pension and all my annual income from every other source to charity. I drive a 7 year old Toyota that our research team has converted from gasoline to a hybrid hydrogen-Compressed Natural Gas ICE that averages more than 85 miles per GGE with 90% fewer total HCE.

I have no debt so I am able to live on less than $750 a month. If REI doesn't sell it I don't wear it. I eat more veg protein since it is far more efficient than producing animal protein.

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.

And making a contribution to a charity does not offset a profoundly bad decision. Waste is waste. There is no correlation between outrageous consumption and charity. You either understand that or you don't.


Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 02:50:07 PM

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.


I think its 17,100 square feet. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 30, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
I donate 100% of my USAF medical pension and all my annual income from every other source to charity. I drive a 7 year old Toyota that our research team has converted from gasoline to a hybrid hydrogen-Compressed Natural Gas ICE that averages more than 85 miles per GGE with 90% fewer total HCE.

I have no debt so I am able to live on less than $750 a month. If REI doesn't sell it I don't wear it. I eat more veg protein since it is far more efficient than producing animal protein.

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.

And making a contribution to a charity does not offset a profoundly bad decision. Waste is waste. There is no correlation between outrageous consumption and charity. You either understand that or you don't.




Can you fill that up at the BP?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 02:54:15 PM
I think its 17,100 square feet. 

Probably. It becomes irrelevant once you get past a certain point.

BTW, we got funding from MS last week on the one deal and wearable is a major vertical so call if interested.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: swoopem on April 30, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
I donate 100% of my USAF medical pension and all my annual income from every other source to charity. I drive a 7 year old Toyota that our research team has converted from gasoline to a hybrid hydrogen-Compressed Natural Gas ICE that averages more than 85 miles per GGE with 90% fewer total HCE.

I have no debt so I am able to live on less than $750 a month. If REI doesn't sell it I don't wear it. I eat more veg protein since it is far more efficient than producing animal protein.

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.

And making a contribution to a charity does not offset a profoundly bad decision. Waste is waste. There is no correlation between outrageous consumption and charity. You either understand that or you don't.




Come on Keefe, support your Michigan brethren and buy American
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 02:59:11 PM
Can you fill that up at the BP?

Anywhere there is a gas line you put in a filling point for less than $300. All you need is an air compressor. But there are CNG refueling points at gas stations everywhere. Our patent is on-board JIT generation of H2.

We are working with PSE on a regional build out of refueling points. I put more miles on my Cannondale but 15 GGE capacity with the efficiencies we are getting and the few miles I drive means I need to refuel about every 5 months.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 03:01:48 PM
Come on Keefe, support your Michigan brethren and buy American

We have converted two Yukon Denalis to HCNG and are getting more than 70 MpGGE with them. We established a pre-conversion baseline with the Denalis and they were averaging about 13 mpg on gasoline so the efficiency gain has been dramatic.

 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Badgerhater on April 30, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
People who are associated with Marquette are only allowed to live here http://youtu.be/3nhgfjrKi0o (http://youtu.be/3nhgfjrKi0o)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on April 30, 2014, 03:10:36 PM
Anywhere there is a gas line you put in a filling point for less than $300. All you need is an air compressor. But there are CNG refueling points at gas stations everywhere. Our patent is on-board JIT generation of H2.

We are working with PSE on a regional build out of refueling points. I put more miles on my Cannondale but 15 GGE capacity with the efficiencies we are getting and the few miles I drive means I need to refuel about every 5 months.

can the average citizen(me) get their car/truck converted?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 03:17:45 PM
can the average citizen(me) get their car/truck converted?

Sure. We actually have meetings in June with two German companies so it might be readily available at some point. But, yea, we can convert anything. The challenge is in the ECU solid state coding - capturing all of the behaviors and activities in algorithms - which is specific to each ICE. That is why we focused on two specific vehicles so we could model the power plants and get the CG correct in a systematic manner.

PM me for details.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: madtownwarrior on April 30, 2014, 03:40:52 PM
cool - you live the what you say you believe.   so many judge others and preach their beliefs but don't actually follow it themselves...



I donate 100% of my USAF medical pension and all my annual income from every other source to charity. I drive a 7 year old Toyota that our research team has converted from gasoline to a hybrid hydrogen-Compressed Natural Gas ICE that averages more than 85 miles per GGE with 90% fewer total HCE.

I have no debt so I am able to live on less than $750 a month. If REI doesn't sell it I don't wear it. I eat more veg protein since it is far more efficient than producing animal protein.

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.

And making a contribution to a charity does not offset a profoundly bad decision. Waste is waste. There is no correlation between outrageous consumption and charity. You either understand that or you don't.



Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GOO on April 30, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
why spend all that time posting funny pictures on message boards - is there not some significant ethical dimension to the decision to not spend that time helping others?

so where does one draw the line?   should Buzz live in a 2000 sq ft home?   what if he lives in a 30,000 sq ft home but donates a $1M a year to charity?   or what if he lives in a 2000 sqft home and donates nothing....  is there a difference?

do you drive anything more than an entry level car?   if you don't - you must be callous, crass or lying to yourself if you think that is OK?  

I don't know there is a line or where the line is at.  Most people don't think there is a line and the bigger and more the better.  They don't care about the consequences of how they/we live.  They equate more and bigger with being better. They equate their personal value too much with their possessions, a label with personal attributes and personal value.  There is no moral or ethical consideration in the process of how we live on those around us and the future... there is no line.

But, I think there are considerations discussed above that everyone should at least think about... then one should be able to draw a line, and if not, as Keefe says so much better than I, they just don't give a damn about others, etc.  If the line is at 17,000 sq feet... I say yuck, and I wish more would say yuck so we'd live more within what is sustainable... and there would be virtue in living in a sustainable way  

If someone wants to live in a 13,000 or 17,000 sq foot house, that is their right, of course.  Will I think less of them as a result?  Yes.  Will I think more of them? No.  Does donating money to charity in large amounts change my mind, not at all.  Different things. Is living in that 17,000 sq. foot house going to make the world better now or for future generations?  I'd say, heck no, so think about it and why you "need" to have it!  

As Bazz would say "is it the right thing to do"?  How often did he say this...  I say heck no Bazz, that isn't right! Especially if you say your a Christian, I don't understand how one can claim to be a good Jesus follower and live like that.  Incompatible to me.  I'm sure Jesus if living in America would live in a house like Bazz's with 4 or 5 other people and tell everyone to be like him and follow his ways  To heck with the consequences on society or being an example.

And the reason I posted in this thread to begin with is because I was surprised to see how he lived, given what he said about being a good Christian and all.  I simply don't get that.

Keefe wins anyway, and he makes me look like a complete hypocrite, not just a partial one. His line is much lower than mine (but he has a better line, in my opinion).  But we can all strive to do better, as I am inclined to try and do.

To the Internet Grammar police, please don't correct my grammar, I'm busy... but I hope this post makes some sense.    
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: kryza on April 30, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
We have converted two Yukon Denalis to HCNG and are getting more than 70 MpGGE with them. We established a pre-conversion baseline with the Denalis and they were averaging about 13 mpg on gasoline so the efficiency gain has been dramatic.

Sounds cool, but I can't get over the fact that your car might explode. Deal breaker for me.

(http://www.ultraimg.com/images/Iciwg.gif)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GOO on April 30, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
On the line thing, the house Steve Jobs was going to build was just shy of 5,000 sq ft.  Is it too big?  I don't know.  However, at least he shows some restraint.  And, I like that for a house with 3 or 4 kids there, they had to share a bath room.

Restraint.  Simpler.  Over the line or not, he thought about it and restrained.

Simple enough?  I'm not going to draw that line.  If he built a 10,000 sq ft house for 5 or 6 people, I'd say yuck, over the line.

So, I guess I am judging.  But, no one cares anyway  :D

Link: http://gizmodo.com/5649909/the-house-that-steve-jobs-will-build
 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Sounds cool, but I can't get over the fact that your car might explode. Deal breaker for me.

(http://www.ultraimg.com/images/Iciwg.gif)

No, this is NOT an H2 powered vehicle. We recognized the inherent issues with H2 as a fuel - safety, cryogenic storage, weight, low volumetric density, etc...

We generate H2 in precise amounts as needed through a chemical reforming process. There is no storage of H2 in this process; excess H2 bleeds off through a series of water gas shift reductions. The beauty is that 30% of your fuel is free!

This is safer than your gasoline-fueled beast that is only about 16% efficient.

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 30, 2014, 04:17:06 PM
He who dies with the most toys wins!


 ;D
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 30, 2014, 04:19:33 PM
Sounds cool, but I can't get over the fact that your car might explode. Deal breaker for me.

(http://www.ultraimg.com/images/Iciwg.gif)

I thought they stopped selling Pintos.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 04:22:08 PM
On the line thing, the house Steve Jobs was going to build was just shy of 5,000 sq ft.  Is it too big?  I don't know.  However, at least he shows some restraint.  And, I like that for a house with 3 or 4 kids there, they had to share a bath room.

Restraint.  Simpler.  Over the line or not, he thought about it and restrained.

Simple enough?  I'm not going to draw that line.  If he built a 10,000 sq ft house for 5 or 6 people, I'd say yuck, over the line.

So, I guess I am judging.  But, no one cares anyway  :D

Link: http://gizmodo.com/5649909/the-house-that-steve-jobs-will-build
 

There is no line other than common sense and judgment. I am alone so I shrugged off a single family dwelling for a 1,400 sf high rise. Maybe it's more space than I need but it is the norm around here for 2 BR and I do have visitors constantly. I have yet to turn on the heat or AC and my utilities are negligible (water is pro-rated so I pay way more than my share but so what.)

I think that those of us with a conscience have an inner voice that gives us guidance. When we hear that voice we already know we are running against our core values. The answer lies in how we answer that voice.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GGGG on April 30, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
There is no line other than common sense and judgment. I am alone so I shrugged off a single family dwelling for a 1,400 sf high rise. Maybe it's more space than I need but it is the norm around here for 2 BR and I do have visitors constantly. I have yet to turn on the heat or AC and my utilities are negligible (water is pro-rated so I pay way more than my share but so what.)

I think that those of us with a conscience have an inner voice that gives us guidance. When we hear that voice we already know we are running against our core values. The answer lies in how we answer that voice.


When I am confident that my children are all out of the house for good, I have told my wife that I would love to move back into a city into some little "Milwaukee bungalow" type house. 

No need to pay for a space I'm not using.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 04:29:07 PM
Sounds cool, but I can't get over the fact that your car might explode. Deal breaker for me.

(http://www.ultraimg.com/images/Iciwg.gif)

Remember, Hydrogen is not necessarily a source of energy, but a carrier of energy.  The risk may actually be less than a gasoline car.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 04:40:10 PM
Remember, Hydrogen is not necessarily a source of energy, but a carrier of energy.  The risk may actually be less than a gasoline car.

The single biggest consumer of industrial H2 is the petrochemical industry which uses it to increase the octane level of fuels. Manufacturing, transporting, storing, and distributing H2 is bloody dangerous. Its use as the sole fuel for ICE is fraught with problems -  volatility, cryogenic storage, weight, low volumetric density, etc... The energy required to cryogenically store H2 fuel on a vehicle at -250 C is far greater than the energy potential of the fuel itself.

H2 as a sole fuel will never be the answer but as an additive it dramatically increases the indicated thermal efficiency and power output of CNG making that hybrid model both operationally and financially superior. The key is to eliminate the whole manufactured H2 supply chain.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 🏀 on April 30, 2014, 04:46:27 PM
No comments on the whack-ass projector in the media room?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 04:53:43 PM

my children are all out of the house for good

Be careful what you wish for. We looked forward to being a couple again but once they were truly gone we missed having them in our daily lives. Their mother reared them to embrace the world and in a selfish way I regret the diaspora we created for it limits my time with them. I think losing their mother gave them even greater impetus to live with the passion she wished for them to have.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on April 30, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
Sure. We actually have meetings in June with two German companies so it might be readily available at some point. But, yea, we can convert anything. The challenge is in the ECU solid state coding - capturing all of the behaviors and activities in algorithms - which is specific to each ICE. That is why we focused on two specific vehicles so we could model the power plants and get the CG correct in a systematic manner.

PM me for details.

Can you convert my ice auger?   ;)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on April 30, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
One of the items not shown on the home listing is the panic room that Bart had installed at the house.  An effin' panic room.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
One of the items not shown on the home listing is the panic room that Bart had installed at the house.  An effin' panic room.

Are you serious??

Had to be about the panic erupting over his starting guards and absurd game rotations...
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 05:19:08 PM
One of the items not shown on the home listing is the panic room that Bart had installed at the house.  An effin' panic room.

Wait, no...really?  Due to the high crime Mequon streets?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Process on April 30, 2014, 05:43:29 PM
Wait, no...really?  Due to the high crime Mequon streets?

Sounds like Brett became a true North Shore Nancy.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Jay Bee on April 30, 2014, 05:55:31 PM
If yall lived by 4never u'd have a panic room too.   Prob served as a spank room though.

btw, I am taking donations from all - if you have some wealth to pass along to others, please considering giving to me. Thanks!
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 06:00:36 PM
If yall lived by 4never u'd have a panic room too.   Prob served as a spank room though.

btw, I am taking donations from all - if you have some wealth to pass along to others, please considering giving to me. Thanks!
Living in California, all wealth has been redistributed to Uncle Jerry Brown
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 30, 2014, 06:13:40 PM
Speaking of the Christian home, I thought someone was going to mention the TW logo on the basketball floor (Team Williams?) where the t looks like a cross.  The living room had a cross on a shelf next to a sign that read "family".
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 30, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
People who are associated with Marquette are only allowed to live here http://youtu.be/3nhgfjrKi0o (http://youtu.be/3nhgfjrKi0o)

This.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Coleman on April 30, 2014, 06:35:51 PM
I know it is just me, so give me heck, but I believe in consuming less, rejecting materialism, that the more stuff you have leads to more complication, that leads to less happiness and less focus on what makes one happy.  I live way under our means and avoid conspicuous consumption.  It is the Jesuit/Buddhist principals that I follow and for other societal reasons in a culture where kids will kill someone over a pair of shoes.

I do find it odd, that people that act like good Christians and profess to  be good Christians, can freely spend a lot of $ on themselves for many reasons.  It seems incompatible to me.  Worse, is when they say and act like their good fortune is proof that God loves them or has "blessed" them, etc.  

So, I am disappointed to see how Bazz lived.  I just don't understand how living like that can be compatible with his professed beliefs.

Done with my rant for the day.  However, I do agree with the above that the place is very ugly with a LOT of odd angles. Good luck getting over 2M for that thing.

well said
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on April 30, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Are you serious??

Had to be about the panic erupting over his starting guards and absurd game rotations...

Yes. 

One of his quirks I learned about after he quit was that he was über paranoid, and he and his wife would scour the media and interwebs for any kind of criticism of him.  I wonder if that same sense of paranoia led to him building the PR.

He's a smart dude....just wacky as hell too, apparently.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 07:01:26 PM
Yes. 

One of his quirks I learned about after he quit was that he was über paranoid, and he and his wife would scour the media and interwebs for any kind of criticism of him.  I wonder if that same sense of paranoia led to him building the PR.

He's a smart dude....just wacky as hell too, apparently.

LOL....uhm, to put it mildly.  Wacky been going on before he even got to MU.  Odd duck was my polite phrasing over the years.  I'm surprised he took it to the point of a PR.  Did he have SAMs on the roof to shoot down the black helicopters?

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MattyWarrior on April 30, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
Looking back now,maybe the players needed a panic room,all the adulation went to his head and when it went south,so did he.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: dgies9156 on April 30, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
What a Hillbilly.

For $2.4 million in Milwaukee, I'd expect to be on the lakefront.

If I wasn't, I better be close and have a nine-hole golf course in my back yard.

Hey Buzz, make sure when you go to Blacksburg, they take the wheels off before you move in!
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: chapman on April 30, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
The insomnia issues make total sense given his paranoia.  Fall asleep and the boogeyman might get him someone on Scoop might post something mean about him.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
Yes.  

One of his quirks I learned about after he quit was that he was über paranoid, and he and his wife would scour the media and interwebs for any kind of criticism of him.  I wonder if that same sense of paranoia led to him building the PR.

He's a smart dude....just wacky as hell too, apparently.

I can just see my wife going along with helping me look for meaningless comments on the internet. She would have laughed in my face if I suggested she help with something that stupid.

Sounds like Mrs. Williams is an idiot, too. Couple of yokels, man.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: chapman on April 30, 2014, 08:47:23 PM
I can just see my wife going along with helping me look for meaningless comments on the internet. She would have laughed in my face if I suggested she help with something that stupid.

CW: "Uh-oh honey, Chicos has 130 posts today."

BW: *Runs into panic room*

CW: "False alarm, they're all about Crean."

BW: (muffled from inside panic room) "You're certain?  No mention of squirm?  You promise?"
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on April 30, 2014, 08:53:08 PM
CW: "Uh-oh honey, Chicos has 130 posts today."

BW: *Runs into panic room*

CW: "False alarm, they're all about Crean."

BW: (muffled from inside panic room) "You're certain?  No mention of squirm?  You promise?"

Gawddam hilarious. I love Scoop. God help me but I love it so.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 30, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
CW: "Uh-oh honey, Chicos has 130 posts today."

BW: *Runs into panic room*

CW: "False alarm, they're all about Crean."

BW: (muffled from inside panic room) "You're certain?  No mention of squirm?  You promise?"

I am Corey
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 30, 2014, 08:58:29 PM
CW: "Uh-oh honey, Chicos has 130 posts today."

BW: *Runs into panic room*

CW: "False alarm, they're all about Crean."

BW: (muffled from inside panic room) "You're certain?  No mention of squirm?  You promise?"

I'm going to bed now after this one.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Nukem2 on April 30, 2014, 09:03:50 PM
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :-\
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: dgies9156 on April 30, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
Couple of yokels, man.

Come and listen to my story about a man named Buzz
A poor basketball coach barely kept the clothes on his back
And then one day he was shooting at some buckets
.. and oozing from the ground, Tom Crean elects to leave
Hoosiers that is.... basketball... hillbillies

Well the first thing you know, ole Buzz is a millionaire
The kinfolk said, "Buzz move away from there"
Said the North Suburbs is the place you oughta be...
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Mequon... Hills that is...
Swimmin pools.... buckets

The Mequon Hillbillies.........


Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MUCam on April 30, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Dude made some coin and I appreciate that he got to indulge in the manner he saw fit. That's what makes this country great.

That said, the over indulgence is clearly contrary to this "aww shucks" humble persona the man built. He is a great salesman. He sold a lot of people on that persona. But in the end, who he says he is and who he actually is don't jive. Ultimately he is a fraud laughing his way to the bank on the backs of those he has no problem deceiving.

Hypocrisy is the world's greatest flaw.

Bravo, Brett. Bravo.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: AZWarrior on April 30, 2014, 09:50:34 PM
Do Jesuits take a vow of poverty? I think there are some orders that do not, but I may be mistaken.

Well, no vows regarding abstinence.  Well, against abstinence, perhaps.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TheBurrEffect on May 01, 2014, 01:34:18 AM
Or maybe he made a panic room due to the chance that some crazed fan would like to kill him over a game he lost? I mean hate the guy all you want, but the panic room does serve a purpose for someone who had his level of profile.
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Post by: keefe on May 01, 2014, 02:19:31 AM
Or maybe he made a panic room due to the chance that some crazed fan would like to kill him over a game he lost? I mean hate the guy all you want, but the panic room does serve a purpose for someone who had his level of profile.

I am thinking panic rooms are to prevent financially-motivated crimes rather than acts of passion. Seattle has 8 billionaires and 5 of them live here in Bellevue. I met with friends this evening and I mentioned "Panic Rooms" and people just laughed.

We meet for coffee at a Top Pot and routinely see Balmer and Gabe Newell stop in there with nary a bodyguard in sight. Now, if Steve Balmer can walk around Bellevue alone with $18B in his wallet I think Bert Williams might be just a little paranoid.

 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 01, 2014, 06:53:14 AM
People have it all wrong about the type of room the panic room is.  I have it on good authority that it was added after the non-conference portion of the season last year to give Buzz somewhere to go after watching game film in the home theater.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 01, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
I donate 100% of my USAF medical pension and all my annual income from every other source to charity. I drive a 7 year old Toyota that our research team has converted from gasoline to a hybrid hydrogen-Compressed Natural Gas ICE that averages more than 85 miles per GGE with 90% fewer total HCE.

I have no debt so I am able to live on less than $750 a month. If REI doesn't sell it I don't wear it. I eat more veg protein since it is far more efficient than producing animal protein.

Life is about choices. Bert Williams does not need to house his family of 6 in 13,000 sf. It is not about safety, security, or survival; it is about hubris.

And making a contribution to a charity does not offset a profoundly bad decision. Waste is waste. There is no correlation between outrageous consumption and charity. You either understand that or you don't.

Matthew 6:2-4
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 01, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
Matthew 6:2-4

Someone asked me a question and I answered it. It is that simple.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: madtownwarrior on May 01, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
Matthew 6:2-4


I just need to figure out how to fly to Tibet and rub elbows with Microsoft millionaires for less that $750 a month - must be doing something wrong.

Glad their lives are perfect to be able to criticize others...

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GGGG on May 01, 2014, 02:50:58 PM

I just need to figure out how to fly to Tibet and rub elbows with Microsoft millionaires for less that $750 a month - must be doing something wrong.

Glad their lives are perfect to be able to criticize others...




I'm pretty sure that keefe means just normal months with basic expenses.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Lens on May 01, 2014, 04:31:30 PM
If he's compensating for anything it's probably never being home.  Harder to have your wife complain if you give her a 13,000 SF "city" to live in.

I'm just jealous of those Ozaukee County property taxes.  I guess the 'Quon has some advantages.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 02, 2014, 01:05:12 AM
If he's compensating for anything it's probably never being home.  Harder to have your wife complain if you give her a 13,000 SF "city" to live in.

I'm just jealous of those Ozaukee County property taxes.  I guess the 'Quon has some advantages.


Did Marotta get divorced? Not that I know him but someone here mentioned that. Pity if he is living in that palace alone.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Benny B on May 02, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
These days, it's a rarity for any home belonging to a high-profile or wealthy individual to not have some sort of "panic room" or, more commonly, a "safe zone".  (Nobody "builds" a panic room any more, those are retrofit jobs -- if you build something, you build a wing or floor of safe rooms).  You can't put up 10' walls and gates in Mequon like you can in Malibu... and the type of persons who would ever perpetrate such a crime aren't walking the streets of Mequon, they have nice vehicles that wouldn't command a second look anywhere in Ozaukee County.

Part of it is deterrent, part of it is safety.  Sure it's comical to us, especially since the Quon seems like the safest city in Wisconsin, but the reality is that there are a lot of whackjobs out there - people whose intentions we cannot even fathom - and they're not looking for anyone in particular, just an easy target.  One of the first thing lottery officials ask when someone walks into their office with a winning jackpot ticket is "do you have any children, and where are they right now?"

Buzz Williams is a known multi-millionaire and a national figure.  Add in the fact that him having several young children was no secret, and the truly "nutty" thing for him would be to not have a panic room.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Class71 on May 02, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
13,000 SF. 22 rooms. Noveau riche. Irresponsible. Embarassing. A lot of compensation going on there. In no way surprising.

Agreed. Easy come easy go when the gravey train ends. The real Buzzard values. I know people with considerably more income than his that do not flaunt it. Character revealed.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 02, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
These days, it's a rarity for any home belonging to a high-profile or wealthy individual to not have some sort of "panic room" or, more commonly, a "safe zone".  (Nobody "builds" a panic room any more, those are retrofit jobs -- if you build something, you build a wing or floor of safe rooms).  You can't put up 10' walls and gates in Mequon like you can in Malibu... and the type of persons who would ever perpetrate such a crime aren't walking the streets of Mequon, they have nice vehicles that wouldn't command a second look anywhere in Ozaukee County.

Part of it is deterrent, part of it is safety.  Sure it's comical to us, especially since the Quon seems like the safest city in Wisconsin, but the reality is that there are a lot of whackjobs out there - people whose intentions we cannot even fathom - and they're not looking for anyone in particular, just an easy target.  One of the first thing lottery officials ask when someone walks into their office with a winning jackpot ticket is "do you have any children, and where are they right now?"

Buzz Williams is a known multi-millionaire and a national figure.  Add in the fact that him having several young children was no secret, and the truly "nutty" thing for him would be to not have a panic room.

+1. Lots of crazies out there. Some of them don't even post here.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 02, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
I wonder if Buzz had his Baptist pastor over for drinks at the bar.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Class71 on May 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
These days, it's a rarity for any home belonging to a high-profile or wealthy individual to not have some sort of "panic room" or, more commonly, a "safe zone".  (Nobody "builds" a panic room any more, those are retrofit jobs -- if you build something, you build a wing or floor of safe rooms).  You can't put up 10' walls and gates in Mequon like you can in Malibu... and the type of persons who would ever perpetrate such a crime aren't walking the streets of Mequon, they have nice vehicles that wouldn't command a second look anywhere in Ozaukee County.

Part of it is deterrent, part of it is safety.  Sure it's comical to us, especially since the Quon seems like the safest city in Wisconsin, but the reality is that there are a lot of whackjobs out there - people whose intentions we cannot even fathom - and they're not looking for anyone in particular, just an easy target.  One of the first thing lottery officials ask when someone walks into their office with a winning jackpot ticket is "do you have any children, and where are they right now?"

Buzz Williams is a known multi-millionaire and a national figure.  Add in the fact that him having several young children was no secret, and the truly "nutty" thing for him would be to not have a panic room.

I know his salary sounds like alot of money but after tax that house is a fairly high expense particularly when you realize he will likely not be coaching much longer. He should have invested much of it to protect his future income.

Safe rooms tend to be built for tornados or hurricanes in areas where they are common. I hate to break it to him but he just isn't that important or wealthy.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 02, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
Or maybe he made a panic room due to the chance that some crazed fan would like to kill him over a game he lost? I mean hate the guy all you want, but the panic room does serve a purpose for someone who had his level of profile.

For someone that had a deranged view of the world and actually thought that possibility was high enough to build a panic room.  I mean, why not build a bunker outside in the back yard in the event of a nuclear strike.  It's possible it could happen.

Buzz is an odd duck, to put it mildly.  I use "odd duck" as a way of being nice.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Lens on May 02, 2014, 03:38:45 PM
I know his salary sounds like alot of money but after tax that house is a fairly high expense particularly when you realize he will likely not be coaching much longer. He should have invested much of it to protect his future income.


I live in an Arts & Crafts Bungalow in WFB so Buzz's house is basically the exact opposite of my tastes BUT, his house is being sold for his annual salary.  How many of us can say that?   And how do you know he won't be coaching for much longer?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 02, 2014, 04:20:55 PM
I live in an Arts & Crafts Bungalow in WFB so Buzz's house is basically the exact opposite of my tastes BUT, his house is being sold for his annual salary.  How many of us can say that?   And how do you know he won't be coaching for much longer?

This isn't about economics. Nor is it about taste. Rather, it is about responsibility.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 02, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
This isn't about economics. Nor is it about taste. Rather, it is about responsibility.

And Buzz feels a responsibility as a father to provide every possible advantage and luxury for his children. I personally don't agree with it. My personal views align similarly to yours. I try to cut as much excess in my life as possible. But when godwilling I have children, I will want to give the luxuries I don't allow for myself.

My father grew up in Pontiac, MI. As a Wolverine you will understand what growing up in Pontiac is like. He worked his ass off, paid his own way through Marquette, and has had a career that allows him a comfortable lifestyle. He spends very little on his own needs but spent money on my siblings and I. We took vacations, went to private school, and when the time came, he helped me pay for my own Marquette tuition. When I was old enough to understand the advantages I was being given, I protested, saying I should earn it on my own. My dad told me that his father was unable to give these things to him and my dad knew that it killed my grandfather that he couldn't. He wanted to be able to do this for me and my siblings.

While I agree that the Williams' house is excessive, I understand the want/need to provide the very best for our loved ones. Whether or not that is irresponsible or hypocritical to his faith, well, I'll leave that between him and God. We are all hypocrites. Every gosh darn one of us.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 02, 2014, 05:50:43 PM
And Buzz feels a responsibility as a father to provide every possible advantage and luxury for his children.

There is no doubt parents must provide for their children. I guess the question is do you give material possessions or impart values?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: martyconlonontherun on May 02, 2014, 06:01:47 PM
Agreed. Easy come easy go when the gravey train ends. The real Buzzard values. I know people with considerably more income than his that do not flaunt it. Character revealed.

By flaunting it you mean having creepy basketball fans find it on the internet and  post it for everyone to see.

Also don't get the comment about the house being to expensive for his salary. He could easily have paid it off already for all we know. I plan on moving into a house many times my annual salary so I don't see the big deal. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 02, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
There is no doubt parents must provide for their children. I guess the question is do you give material possessions or impart values?

You must impart values.

You have the option to give material possessions. And I would argue that many fathers have the drive and desire to provide these.

There is a way to give one without compromising the other. Does Buzz do this? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Benny B on May 02, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
You must impart values.

You have the option to give material possessions. And I would argue that many fathers have the drive and desire to provide these.

There is a way to give one without compromising the other. Does Buzz do this? I have no idea.

Can't impart values when your child is being held for ransom, now can you?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 03, 2014, 01:20:15 AM
Can't impart values when your child is being held for ransom, now can you?

I honestly have no idea what the link here is, lol
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 03, 2014, 01:45:20 AM
I honestly have no idea what the link here is, lol

He is suggesting that imparting values loses meaning with the lavishing of material "luxuries." His use of the term 'ransom' for the case you cite is rather apt. Frankly, he is spot on correct.

People in the developed world, and the US in particular, can be very mercenary about acquiring possessions. Things are not inherently bad but crass materialism has become vulgar. The real question is what are we devaluing by placing so much importance on material wealth?

I should think that a Jesuit education would have demanded a certain amount of reflection on this.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 03, 2014, 04:10:30 PM
For any of y'all in the area, you might wanna cruise on by Bumstead's digs. Really a pretty nice pad on about a 5 acre parcel. The entire subdivision has a Western/Texas motif to it. Nice bb hoop in the back with MU pad on the support post. I know his real estate broker so I'd say its probably priced fairly and to sell. These digs fit in nicely in his hood. Ya know you've made it in life, when ya can afford a crib like this.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Class71 on May 03, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
What's astounding is you get that much house for 2.4 bills. Different deal on the west coast.

It is also higher in several other locations in the US. Go international and it become outrageous. Don't really care, just feeds an ego. There is always someone with more and many more with less. The marginal value declines significantly once rain is not  falling on your head and there is food in the kitchen. After that most of what we buy is not that significant.

What is significant is being alive and enjoying the gift. Unfortunately it is impossible to really understand that statement until you have been close to losing your life.  To many times we trade stress, time an many difficulties for money. Much better to inherit or hit the lottery.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 03, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
He is suggesting that imparting values loses can lose meaning with the lavishing of material "luxuries." His use of the term 'ransom' for the case you cite is rather apt. Frankly, he is spot on correct.

People in the developed world, and the US in particular, can be very mercenary about acquiring possessions. Things are not inherently bad but crass materialism has become vulgar. The real question is what are we devaluing by placing so much importance on material wealth?

I should think that a Jesuit education would have demanded a certain amount of reflection on this.


Material possessions can lessen values. I have seen it happen many times. If you can offer the proper values and reflection, then that won't happen.

Do the Williams do this? I have no idea. Again, I will leave it between them and God. I don't think they deserve to have over 100 posts of people criticizing them for having a nice home and how they may or may not be raising their children.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Class71 on May 03, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
Material possessions can lessen values. I have seen it happen many times. If you can offer the proper values and reflection, then that won't happen.

Do the Williams do this? I have no idea. Again, I will leave it between them and God. I don't think they deserve to have over 100 posts of people criticizing them for having a nice home and how they may or may not be raising their children.

Point taken. Would prefer the discussion stay with the concepts and not about Buzz or his family. Maybe I need a philosophy page.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 03, 2014, 05:33:59 PM
What is significant is being alive and enjoying the gift. Unfortunately it is impossible to really understand that statement until you have been close to losing your life. 

Anyone who has stared into the abyss realizes just how precious a gift is simple existence. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on May 17, 2014, 10:37:47 PM
Come and listen to my story about a man named Buzz
A poor basketball coach barely kept the clothes on his back
And then one day he was shooting at some buckets
.. and oozing from the ground, Tom Crean elects to leave
Hoosiers that is.... basketball... hillbillies

Well the first thing you know, ole Buzz is a millionaire
The kinfolk said, "Buzz move away from there"
Said the North Suburbs is the place you oughta be...
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Mequon... Hills that is...
Swimmin pools.... buckets

The Mequon Hillbillies.........





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Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 27, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Home price slashed by $350K.  Maybe the squirmy stench is hard to get rid of and people are unable to ignore it as they walk in the door.


http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/photos/buzz-williams-house-for-sale-b99262237z1-257867851.html

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Stronghold on July 27, 2014, 04:32:46 PM
I'll be at that house as long as they'll have me.  (3 months of no payments maybe? )
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: forgetful on July 27, 2014, 04:36:35 PM
He'll have a hard time selling it.  Despite being very large, it is not particularly well build or well designed. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 27, 2014, 04:50:07 PM
He'll have a hard time selling it.  Despite being very large, it is not particularly well build or well designed. 

Sounds a lot like his character.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 27, 2014, 06:11:53 PM
Home price slashed by $350K.  Maybe the squirmy stench is hard to get rid of

Hopefully that stench is from one of the Scoop Faithful leaving an Upper Decker in the Master Sh1tter.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Jay Bee on July 27, 2014, 06:15:06 PM
No problem for Buzz. He got an unbelievable contract at Virginia Tech. He really beat VT down and got his way on the deal.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on July 27, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Home price slashed by $350K.  Maybe the squirmy stench is hard to get rid of and people are unable to ignore it as they walk in the door.


http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/photos/buzz-williams-house-for-sale-b99262237z1-257867851.html

Many have cooled on this house.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU82 on July 27, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
No problem for Buzz. He got an unbelievable contract at Virginia Tech. He really beat VT down and got his way on the deal.

Exactly. If he can't sell the house and ends up giving it to charity (Little Sisters of the Squirmy?), he still will have more money coming in over a two-year span than most of us (present company included) will have made in our lifetimes.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MuMark on July 27, 2014, 07:25:52 PM
It is also higher in several other locations in the US. Go international and it become outrageous. Don't really care, just feeds an ego. There is always someone with more and many more with less. The marginal value declines significantly once rain is not  falling on your head and there is food in the kitchen. After that most of what we buy is not that significant.

What is significant is being alive and enjoying the gift. Unfortunately it is impossible to really understand that statement until you have been close to losing your life.  To many times we trade stress, time an many difficulties for money. Much better to inherit or hit the lottery.


Couldn't disagree more with the bolded sentence.

 People who inherit fortunes or win lotteries have a different set of problems. They will never know the satisfaction that is achieved by earning success(at whatever level) as opposed to having it given to them.

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: wadesworld on July 27, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
Hopefully that stench is from one of the Scoop Faithful leaving an Upper Decker in the Master Sh1tter.

Classic. Cleveland Steamer.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 27, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
In talkin' with his realtor, she feels the most likely buyer will be a professional athlete.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 27, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
In talkin' with his realtor, she feels the most likely buyer will be a professional athlete.

Doc,

Are you setting up a showing?? Have lunch at Real Chili, beforehand
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: AZWarrior on July 27, 2014, 08:11:29 PM

Couldn't disagree more with the bolded sentence.

 People who inherit fortunes or win lotteries have a different set of problems. They will never know the satisfaction that is achieved by earning success(at whatever level) as opposed to having it given to them.

Well said.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 27, 2014, 08:18:39 PM
Doc,

Are you setting up a showing?? Have lunch at Real Chili, beforehand

Nah, but his realtor just sold our pad.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on July 27, 2014, 08:21:55 PM
Nah, but his realtor just sold our pad.

You heading west Doc?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 27, 2014, 08:24:24 PM
No, I practice full time and also teach part time. Love what I do. Just time for my wife and I to downsize a bit.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 27, 2014, 08:31:43 PM
In talkin' with his realtor, she feels the most likely buyer will be a professional athlete.

Think we can start a Gofundme for MUScoop and make it the official MUScoop pad?

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 27, 2014, 08:34:53 PM
No, I practice full time

After all these years you'd think you would know how to do it by now...
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 🏀 on July 27, 2014, 09:04:13 PM
Think we can start a Gofundme for MUScoop and make it the official MUScoop pad?



Now that hilltopper has passed (skypoint), this seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Jay Bee on July 27, 2014, 10:00:41 PM
No, I practice full time and also teach part time. Love what I do. Just time for my wife and I to downsize a bit.

She downsized when she started dating you, ainal?

I would like you and other Scoopers to gift me money. Remember, the per person gift tax exclusion is enormous on a federal level. Help a guy have more $. Send it to me. Thanks in advance everyone.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Les Nessman on July 28, 2014, 12:36:05 AM
Doc,

Are you setting up a showing?? Have lunch at Real Chili, beforehand

Got engaged yesterday. Took the new bride-to-be to Real Chili today for the first time on our way back to Chicago from Hazelhurst. She got a chili cheese dog and loved it.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 28, 2014, 12:44:11 AM
Got engaged yesterday. Took the new bride-to-be to Real Chili today for the first time on our way back to Chicago from Hazelhurst. She got a chili cheese dog and loved it.

Congrats. Of course she loved it. You have chosen wisely.

By the way, I am assuming you only popped the question after she professed her love for Real Chili? (a la Barry Levinson's Diner Colts screening test.)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 28, 2014, 06:08:48 AM
She downsized when she started dating you, ainal?

I would like you and other Scoopers to gift me money. Remember, the per person gift tax exclusion is enormous on a federal level. Help a guy have more $. Send it to me. Thanks in advance everyone.

Team Jay Bee!
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on July 28, 2014, 07:06:31 AM
In talkin' with his realtor, she feels the most likely buyer will be a professional athlete.

Jabari!
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on July 29, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
Nah, but his realtor just sold our pad.

You should have taken a tour.  Curious if the place smells like chicken fried steak.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Atticus on July 29, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
meh. buzz's old pad has white trash written all over it. of course it is going to take an athlete to buy that place. duh.

i know the house and the neighborhood. not worth the price tag. the lot sucks. I'd rather live in Frank Brickowski's old neighborhood than Buzz's; Id rather live closer to the lake.

Actually, ill take Fox Point and River Hills over his address any day. Speaking of Fox Point.... it brings back old school memories of TP'ing Bud Selig's house while pounding cans of Pabst. The good old days....
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 30, 2014, 07:14:16 AM
You should have taken a tour.  Curious if the place smells like chicken fried steak.

Like sweet tea.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: esotericmindguy on July 30, 2014, 07:44:56 AM
The bitterness is comical on this board. Now his house is poorly built, white trash, decorated poorly, and designed terribly. Last year half you folks would have professed your love for the house.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on July 30, 2014, 07:56:01 AM
The bitterness is comical on this board. Now his house is poorly built, white trash, decorated poorly, and designed terribly. Last year half you folks would have professed your love for the house.

Can't argue your point.  Chalk it up to it's the off season.  And, it's a message board.  And it makes us weaker minder folks feel better about ourselves. And, were not talking D&D in this thread.  At least not yet. ;)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: mu-rara on July 30, 2014, 08:33:51 AM
The bitterness is comical on this board. Now his house is poorly built, white trash, decorated poorly, and designed terribly. Last year half you folks would have professed your love for the house.

I agree that this is comical, and I am guilty.

I am with our coach through thick and thin.  I buy into his (no matter who it is) schtick.  When he leaves it pisses me off because I bought it.  I have told myself that I won't buy Wojo's line, but I will. 

It is what it is.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on July 30, 2014, 09:33:38 AM
I agree that this is comical, and I am guilty.

I am with our coach through thick and thin.  I buy into his (no matter who it is) schtick.  When he leaves it pisses me off because I bought it.  I have told myself that I won't buy Wojo's line, but I will. 

It is what it is.

Everybody should just put this in their signature. It's the most honest thing written on this board.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: T-Bone on July 30, 2014, 09:38:08 AM
You should have taken a tour.  Curious if the place smells like chicken fried steak.

Those better be sweet tea stains on the carpet.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on July 30, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
No, I practice full time and also teach part time. Love what I do. Just time for my wife and I to downsize a bit.

Thought you were the Allen Iverson of the dental world?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: wadesworld on July 30, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
They're saying a professional athlete will most likely buy the house, hey?  I hear Todd Mayo is in the market...
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 30, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
They're saying a professional athlete will most likely buy the house, hey?  I hear Todd Mayo is in the market...

Is Bert's house in Tajikistan?

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: wadesworld on July 30, 2014, 09:38:28 PM
Is Bert's house in Tajikistan?



Fort Wayne, home of the NBADL Mad Ants.  That's roughly Blacksburg, no?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on July 31, 2014, 12:15:08 AM
Fort Wayne, home of the NBADL Mad Ants.  That's roughly Blacksburg, no?

I think Ft Wayne has indoor plumbing
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
Still available?

http://www.firstweber.com/homes/1360946_METRO-2370_W_Saddlebrook_Lane-Mequon-WI-53097-1768

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Cooby Snacks on October 11, 2014, 05:13:10 PM
Still available?

http://www.firstweber.com/homes/1360946_METRO-2370_W_Saddlebrook_Lane-Mequon-WI-53097-1768



Is anyone surprised that this nouveau riche monstrosity isn't moving? Especially in a buyers' market.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 11, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
Congrats. Of course she loved it. You have chosen wisely.

By the way, I am assuming you only popped the question after she professed her love for Real Chili? (a la Barry Levinson's Diner Colts screening test.)
One of my favorite movies! Kevin Bacon faking his own death is classic, as is the popcorn scene and the Colts quiz.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2014, 05:49:31 PM
Is anyone surprised that this nouveau riche monstrosity isn't moving? Especially in a buyers' market.

The backyard trappings could be problematic

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/8/11/enhanced/webdr02/enhanced-buzz-20129-1412780538-39.jpg)


(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/8/11/enhanced/webdr02/enhanced-buzz-20380-1412781581-40.jpg)


(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/8/11/enhanced/webdr07/enhanced-buzz-3944-1412781182-9.jpg)




Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on October 11, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
One of my favorite movies! Kevin Bacon faking his own death is classic, as is the popcorn scene and the Colts quiz.

It is a classic.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on October 11, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
"This energy saving home..."

Is that Realtor nuts? I wonder what she really thought as she wrote that about Bert's carbon-belching monstrosity...
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: pbiflyer on October 12, 2014, 12:10:44 AM
One of my favorite movies! Kevin Bacon faking his own death is classic, as is the popcorn scene and the Colts quiz.

A little known factoid. The movie. Is based on the guys real life and that of his friends, one of which later went on to become a teacher at one Marquette Unicersity.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Johnny B on October 12, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
ELPEHANT in burts house,
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Eldon on October 12, 2014, 11:50:12 AM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 🏀 on October 12, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?


That helped recruiting
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Johnny B on October 12, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.

Cause Bert doesn't want to change shirts every time he walks up the stairs.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Badgerhater on October 12, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.
Have a friend with that scale of house and it has an elevator.   Such house are also built for large scale entertaining and it's nice to be ADA accessible when such events are business in nature. 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 13, 2014, 12:31:30 AM
Let's scrap together a fundraiser to put in an offer? Official scoop away game viewing location?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 13, 2014, 08:41:25 AM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.

Not unusual for a house like that.  Probably also has radiant heat, a sophisticated alarm system, a separate area for staff and a "cook's kitchen."  Remember it is 13,000 square feet or about 6 times the typical Milwaukee home.

See the picture of the custom bar, that probably cost more than the Elevator.  It is problaby at least $1,000/month to heat the basketball court in the winter.

Lastly, people that buy this kind of house, come in with a six-figure redecorating budget.  So they will re-do it and if you see pictures of it a year or so after it is bought, it will look nothing like these pictures.  So don't get hung up on color or style, all that is getting changed by the new owners.

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: willie warrior on October 13, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.
It was put in by Buzz as a tribute to the "Elevator Man", Ric Cobb.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: forgetful on October 13, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
Not unusual for a house like that.  Probably also has radiant heat, a sophisticated alarm system, a separate area for staff and a "cook's kitchen."  Remember it is 13,000 square feet or about 6 times the typical Milwaukee home.

See the picture of the custom bar, that probably cost more than the Elevator.  It is problaby at least $1,000/month to heat the basketball court in the winter.

Lastly, people that buy this kind of house, come in with a six-figure redecorating budget.  So they will re-do it and if you see pictures of it a year or so after it is bought, it will look nothing like these pictures.  So don't get hung up on color or style, all that is getting changed by the new owners.



I doubt it has a cook's kitchen.  Although very large, the basketball court amounts to over a 1/3 of the total size.  The home in general looks very poorly done and cheaply built.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 14, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
I doubt it has a cook's kitchen.  Although very large, the basketball court amounts to over a 1/3 of the total size.  The home in general looks very poorly done and cheaply built.

You can tell all this from a handful of broker pictures? 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MileHigh on October 14, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
You can tell all this from a handful of broker pictures? 

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55292757.jpg)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on October 14, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
Listing says that the house has an elevator.  Why in the world is there an elevator in that house?

Great thread, btw, filled with a good blend of thoughtful comments as well as funny ones.

No mention of the "Panic Room"
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: mu_hilltopper on October 14, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
I can imagine that being a tough sell.  I've driven by the property (#stalker) .. it's very isolated, but in a strange way.  It was a new subdivision (previously called an "equestrian" sub, as it encouraged homes with horses, or so that's what I figured it meant.) 

So .. there's very few neighbors in the area as these lots have gone unsold for 5-8 years now.  So .. it's not like a secluded house in the forest .. it's secluded out in the open with no mature trees.

A lot better places to drop $2m.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: augoman on October 15, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
I haven't been following the thread, but before I'd give Buzz 2 mm for his old house I'd pay 2.2 mm for the Mackie bldg.  Houses the Grain Exchange and others.  Truly beautiful and historically relevant.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 15, 2014, 09:45:03 AM
Does anyone know ... did VT buys his house or is the first year of Brent's new contract sitting in Mequon with a for sale sign in front of it?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Coleman on October 15, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
Does anyone know ... did VT buys his house or is the first year of Brent's new contract sitting in Mequon with a for sale sign in front of it?

Either way, I'm sure he's not starving living in a Motel 6.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU82 on October 15, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
Where in the house is Goodman's guest bedroom?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 15, 2014, 09:58:06 AM
Where in the house is Goodman's guest bedroom?

You mean where was Corey williams forced to stay when Buzz and Goodman would stay together in the master bedroom?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Lens on October 15, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
I can imagine that being a tough sell.  I've driven by the property (#stalker) .. it's very isolated, but in a strange way.  It was a new subdivision (previously called an "equestrian" sub, as it encouraged homes with horses, or so that's what I figured it meant.) 

So .. there's very few neighbors in the area as these lots have gone unsold for 5-8 years now.  So .. it's not like a secluded house in the forest .. it's secluded out in the open with no mature trees.

A lot better places to drop $2m.

That location is so remote for the community it is in, Mequon.  You probably would default to Cedarburg for shopping etc but for schools and your kids friends, you're doing a lot of driving.  I don't get the appeal.  Then again I live on a postage stamp lot in WFB so most of America thinks I'm crazy.  

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 15, 2014, 10:04:48 AM
Either way, I'm sure he's not starving living in a Motel 6.

No but if they did not buy his house, all those mind numbing analysis of his contract being worth more or less than his MU contract means he took a huge financial step backwards go to VT.

Having to leave behind a few million in an illiquid asset should matter a lot when arguing salary.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Nukem2 on October 15, 2014, 10:28:31 AM
I can imagine that being a tough sell.  I've driven by the property (#stalker) .. it's very isolated, but in a strange way.  It was a new subdivision (previously called an "equestrian" sub, as it encouraged homes with horses, or so that's what I figured it meant.) 

So .. there's very few neighbors in the area as these lots have gone unsold for 5-8 years now.  So .. it's not like a secluded house in the forest .. it's secluded out in the open with no mature trees.

A lot better places to drop $2m.
It is an unusual subdivision which is now getting closer to being built out with several Mequon ACC approvals in process.  But, Buzz's house is overbuilt for that subdivision along with the unusual interior.  Don't think Buzz was intending to leave when he "built". 
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Coleman on October 15, 2014, 10:44:10 AM
No but if they did not buy his house, all those mind numbing analysis of his contract being worth more or less than his MU contract means he took a huge financial step backwards go to VT.

Having to leave behind a few million in an illiquid asset should matter a lot when arguing salary.

If anything became clear from Buzz's MU exit, he is not necessarily motivated by rational thought. He is more motivated by fear of failure. Even if a couple million dollars are locked up in his old house, its probably worth it to him for the reduced expectations of his new job and not having to worry about performing at a high level for a few years. Seriously.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on October 15, 2014, 10:48:19 AM
It is an unusual subdivision which is now getting closer to being built out with several Mequon ACC approvals in process.  But, Buzz's house is overbuilt for that subdivision along with the unusual interior.  Don't think Buzz was intending to leave when he "built". 

I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Coleman on October 15, 2014, 10:49:56 AM
I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.

What on earth would motivate Buzz to donate $2 million to Marquette?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 15, 2014, 10:50:38 AM
If anything became clear from Buzz's MU exit, he is not necessarily motivated by rational thought. He is more motivated by fear of failure. Even if a couple million dollars are locked up in his old house, its probably worth it to him for the reduced expectations of his new job and not having to worry about performing at a high level for a few years. Seriously.

This is spot on
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on October 15, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
What on earth would motivate Buzz to donate $2 million to Marquette?

Not saying he would....he's more likely to donate it to the Baptist church (or whatever denomination he belongs to),  and at least he wouldn't have to pay property taxes, HOA, and upkeep any more.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on October 15, 2014, 11:12:52 AM
If anything became clear from Buzz's MU exit, he is not necessarily motivated by rational thought. He is more motivated by fear of failure. Even if a couple million dollars are locked up in his old house, its probably worth it to him for the reduced expectations of his new job and not having to worry about performing at a high level for a few years. Seriously.

Buzz is truly a wildcard.

The dude just looks at the world differently than most.

Our logic need not apply.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 15, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYA9ufivbDw
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on October 15, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYA9ufivbDw

I don't get your point.  This isn't an anonymous quote or a "people say" thing. I know the woman who said this personally and I got it directly from her.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 15, 2014, 09:23:20 PM
I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.

maybe brent will call a presser to announce the donation.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 16, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYA9ufivbDw
(Video on Fox News technique: "some people say")

I don't get your point.  This isn't an anonymous quote or a "people say" thing. I know the woman who said this personally and I got it directly from her.

I assume that his point was that it is ridiculous to suggest that Buzz would consider donating 2 million or so to an employer that he left when he felt that that employer left him no choice but to leave by not allowing him to do the things that were necessary for him to succeed.  And you put that statement out there without supporting it yourself or attributing to anyone else which made the statement very tricky to impeach.

Where the analogy breaks down is - as the video argues - this is a standard technique of Fox News while it was just one random post by you in the course of over 1800 posts.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: forgetful on October 16, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
You can tell all this from a handful of broker pictures? 

Yes, it is not that hard.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on October 16, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
I assume that his point was that it is ridiculous to suggest that Buzz would consider donating 2 million or so to an employer that he left when he felt that that employer left him no choice but to leave by not allowing him to do the things that were necessary for him to succeed.  And you put that statement out there without supporting it yourself or attributing to anyone else which made the statement very tricky to impeach.

Where the analogy breaks down is - as the video argues - this is a standard technique of Fox News while it was just one random post by you in the course of over 1800 posts.

I don't know why you think Superlative can't post his own responses.

Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on October 16, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
maybe brent will call a presser to announce the donation.

Maybe he can donate the house to the Marquette soccer team which enjoys a proud tradition of financial support from former basketball coaches
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: NersEllenson on October 16, 2014, 12:54:03 PM
Maybe he can donate the house to the Marquette soccer team which enjoys a proud tradition of financial support from former basketball coaches

Baziinggg.  Well played Keefe!
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 16, 2014, 03:09:41 PM
I've had a Scoop related chuckle this week as the local news was reporting on a UConn alum (& former UConn soccer player) donating $8mil to UConn athletics to build an on-campus soccer facility.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: The Lens on October 16, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
I watched a few highlights of Marquette's 0-1 loss to Butler from last night.  Wow, stop all fundraising elsewhere in the world and help the Bulldogs.  It looks like a Milwaukee Kickers U8 field.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Shark on October 16, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Is it worth reading through this thread to see why it blew up? Or is this just one of those "the season needs to hurry up and start" bumps?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: GGGG on October 16, 2014, 04:07:20 PM
I heard someone suggest that Buzz should donate the house to Marquette to be used for retreats.  Not a horrible idea if he'd go for it, but I can't see that getting through zoning.


Is there any evidence that either party would be interested in such a transaction?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: warriorchick on October 16, 2014, 04:16:55 PM

Is there any evidence that either party would be interested in such a transaction?

No.  Never said that there was.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: source? on October 16, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
Is it worth reading through this thread to see why it blew up? Or is this just one of those "the season needs to hurry up and start" bumps?

Nope. A couple of pages psychoanalyzing the ego of our former coach, a couple more lambasting him for wastefulness, some VPI jokes, a page or so about price reducing, and your general scoop off-topic posting. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: source? on October 16, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
In Chick's defense, it seems people are interpreting her her should statement (opinion) as a would statement (fact). I think my landlord SHOULD give me a break on rent since I've made certain she gets the check a week before it is due every month for just shy of two years now. My landlord never WOULD do such a thing. Too bad.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Shark on October 17, 2014, 12:53:35 AM
Nope. A couple of pages psychoanalyzing the ego of our former coach, a couple more lambasting him for wastefulness, some VPI jokes, a page or so about price reducing, and your general scoop off-topic posting. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
Bumstead unloaded the dump for $1.5

#donedeal
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: real chili 83 on December 14, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
Dropped the price by only $850,000 from the initial listing price.

'Never, did you leave a log in the master like Keefe recommended?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
Place was already full of chit
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: wadesworld on December 14, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Dropped the price by only $850,000 from the initial listing price.

'Never, did you leave a log in the master like Keefe recommended?

Speaking of leaving a log in Bert's house, you think his manager forgot to stop by the house before they moved out to flush the toilet and that's why nobody's biting?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2014, 07:53:21 PM
Speaking of leaving a log in Bert's house, you think his manager forgot to stop by the house before they moved out to flush the toilet and that's why nobody's biting?

Coulda been the panic room, man. Any prospective buyer seeing that would have to wonder about the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
Dropped the price by only $850,000 from the initial listing price.

'Never, did you leave a log in the master like Keefe recommended?

I'd like to think that at least one intrepid Scooper or perhaps even D.J. Newbill gained access to the inner sanctum and deposited so toxic a stew in the upper tank that potential buyers were not only put off for months but forced Bert to accept a million dollars less for what became known as The Fixer Upper of Mequon.

F uck that guy.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2014, 08:07:44 PM
Crash, I got outta The Quon so as not to be associated with this trailer trash scum bucket. Didn't want the sumbitch to take down all the property values before sellin'.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 14, 2014, 08:12:36 PM
Crash, I got outta The Quon so as not to be associated with this trailer trash scum bucket. Didn't want the sumbitch to take down all the property values before sellin'.

So, River Hills now, aina?
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 14, 2014, 09:37:32 PM
Coulda been the panic room, man. Any prospective buyer seeing that would have to wonder about the neighborhood.

Wait a minute, I thought that Virginia Tech was Buzz's panic room.
Title: Re: Barney's home for sale.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 14, 2014, 10:29:31 PM
Wait a minute, I thought that Virginia Tech was Buzz's panic room.

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