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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: HutchwasClutch on April 22, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
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Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook · 4h
Marquette, Iowa State, Baylor and Texas Tech among the schools showing interest in Minnesota transfer Wally Ellenson.
Yes, he's Henry's older brother. Tubby Smith recruit who never hit off with Pitino Jr. and staff at Minnesota. Lefty, a track "star" as well apparently (I put quotes around that, because other than that generic term, I don't know in what specifically). About 6'6.
We shall see what happens. Seems more credible than some of the other transfer speculation, which in some cases at best have been random guesses at guys that MU may have interest in, vice versa, or both.
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Wasn't the story initially that he was staying at Minnesota to focus on Track (high jump I think)? Am I thinking about someone else?
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Wasn't the story initially that he was staying at Minnesota to focus on Track (high jump I think)? Am I thinking about someone else?
He still wants to play basketball, but at another school
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Wasn't the story initially that he was staying at Minnesota to focus on Track (high jump I think)? Am I thinking about someone else?
Yes, you are correct.
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Is Wally any good...or is this just a long-shot attempt to land Henry?
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I'm down.
Love the jerseys...
(Bro is in the pic)
https://twitter.com/Hjellenson/status/427314467114741761/photo/1/large
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Wally is a 7'3" high jumper, one of the best underclassmen in the nation. Needs about 4 more inches and he can make the 2016 rio Olympics.
He should attract attention for the top track schools I the nation, SEC and PAC-12.
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Wally is a 7'3" high jumper, one of the best underclassmen in the nation. Needs about 4 more inches and he can make the 2016 rio Olympics.
He should attract attention for the top track schools I the nation, SEC and PAC-12.
Much easier said than done.
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That's all wonderful, but is Wally any good at hoops?
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That's all wonderful, but is Wally any good at hoops?
I'm guessing he's as good as any other 13th man.
If Henry is as good as folks here say, it's worth bringing Bro along.
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That's all wonderful, but is Wally any good at hoops?
He'd be a role player at best IMO.
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I'm guessing he's as good as any other 13th man.
If Henry is as good as folks here say, it's worth bringing Bro along.
Id for sure do it under one condition. Henry commits first.
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Much easier said than done.
True but he is a Soph and jumpers are late bloomers.
He was 8th at NCAA outdoors last year, highest freshmen. Top 6 were all juniors and seniors. (Winner was the bronze medalist from the London Olympics, second place was the silver medalist)
Point is he is the real deal as a high jumper, not the real deal as a basketball player. Focus on what you're good at.
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Probably a moot point, but when would he be eligible if he transferred?
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Probably a moot point, but when would he be eligible if he transferred?
He would have to sit out next year.
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Id for sure do it under one condition. Henry commits first.
I'm sure this type of attitude would hit it off well with the family.
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He's scored 34 points on 31% shooting over two seasons. Is the high major interest entirely straw-graspers willing to put him on scholarship for three seasons just for a chance to land little brother? A chance isn't worth it, and even if it comes to fruition not sure he's worth two scholarships.
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He can get a full ride for track and field and then be a "walk on" to the basketball team and not use a basketball scholarship.
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I thought I read here once that is not allowed -- FBall or BBall have to be the primary scholorship.
He can get a full ride for track and field and then be a "walk on" to the basketball team and not use a basketball scholarship.
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He can get a full ride for track and field and then be a "walk on" to the basketball team and not use a basketball scholarship.
Pretty sure Marquette does not give out full ride track scholarships. The only sport does is basketball.
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Pretty sure Marquette does not give out full ride track scholarships. The only sport does is basketball.
Yes they do, or at last they did in the mid-90s when I was at MU. Even if they didn't, they could choose to do so and would have no problem getting funding from the Blue & Gold Fund.
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I thought I read here once that is not allowed -- FBall or BBall have to be the primary scholorship.
Correct. Can't hide guys in the olympic sports.
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He's scored 34 points on 31% shooting over two seasons. Is the high major interest entirely straw-graspers willing to put him on scholarship for three seasons just for a chance to land little brother? A chance isn't worth it, and even if it comes to fruition not sure he's worth two scholarships.
I think the best thing is to have transfers or red-shirt players that are filling the 12Th and 13Th spots as they sit out the year. Those spots are not going to play, no matter who they are. Much better than having freshmen in those spots that are going to transfer, because they are not playing. McGuire used to love transfers, because thry were not going to transfer again. There are a lot of examples of freshmen not playing much that become very good players by time they are a senior. I think one of Buzz's problems was young players transferring out, before they had a chance to develop. It becomes a revolving door, because the freshman that transfers out is replaced by another freshmen that is going to transfer out. The result is that you end up with a team like last year, because transfers keep you from developing a sound team.
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Yes they do, or at last they did in the mid-90s when I was at MU. Even if they didn't, they could choose to do so and would have no problem getting funding from the Blue & Gold Fund.
My source is Joe True from a couple of years ago. Each non-basketball sport has a certain number of full-scholarship equivalents to hand out, and they have chosen to split them up into partials.
Even if they did decide to give a guy a full-ride scholly in track and let him walk on to basketball, I am sure the NCAA would see right through that.
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He can get a full ride for track and field and then be a "walk on" to the basketball team and not use a basketball scholarship.
No, he can't. We had the same issue with Marcus West a few years back. He was a soccer transfer from Northeastern Illinois, and was initially going to use a soccer scholarship and walk-on to the basketball team, but he counted against the basketball scholoraship totals.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=19951111&id=EHMaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ci0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6739,485069 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=19951111&id=EHMaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ci0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6739,485069)
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If Wally is serious about competing in track, he is probably better off where he is at. Minnesota being a big ten school has the necessary facilities. If MU were ever to get an indoor field-house it would be a different story. It is a great concept to have him come here and bring the brother. I guess it would depend on how much the two brothers want to play on the same team.
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McGuire used to love transfers, because thry were not going to transfer again.
Now we're seeing the ill effects of the graduate transfer rule - using a scholarship for the year sitting out, making enough progress to graduate, and transferring again without sitting out. I think it's a great rule to reward kids for academics, but it should not be extended to those who have already transferred.
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I think Wally could play at MU. Henry bigger and more important, but I'd sign up to take them both if it led to getting Henry. As I've said before, don't think they get a ton of coaching in HS, so I think they could both bloom at the next level.
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My source is Joe True from a couple of years ago. Each non-basketball sport has a certain number of full-scholarship equivalents to hand out, and they have chosen to split them up into partials.
Even if they did decide to give a guy a full-ride scholly in track and let him walk on to basketball, I am sure the NCAA would see right through that.
I knew a guy who ran Cross Country & Track and I remember at the time he said he said he had a partial scholarship.
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I knew a guy who ran Cross Country & Track and I remember at the time he said he said he had a partial scholarship.
Most athletes in non-revenue sports are on partial scholarships. The sport gets a certain amount of money in Scholarship aid to divide up among all the kids.
In fact it would not surprise me in some sports if no one is getting a full-ride. At best the top 1 to 3 athletes (all grades) might be getting a full ride but that's about it.
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Really don't care for this move. We'll be tying up a precious scholarship for 3 years on a scrub on the remote chance that we'll land his stud brother. Smell the desperation.
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Who said that we would only recruit Wally to get Henry? Maybe Wojo thinks that Wally alone is worth the scholarship. And who said we are even recruiting Wally outside of this tweet?
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Why else would we want Wally? Has to be part of a package. On his own he's definitely not worth it. I'd have serious reservations about Wojo if that's not the case.
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I'd have much more serious reservations if he is only doing this in an attempt to land his brother. IMO if he isn't worth the scholarship on his own, don't give it to him.
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I'd have much more serious reservations if he is only doing this in an attempt to land his brother. IMO if he isn't worth the scholarship on his own, don't give it to him.
+1
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Wally doesn't seem to have much game at all. Don't know why we'd want to tie up a scholarship for 3 years on him if there wasn't a string attached.
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I just don't see why Henry would pick Marquette over Duke, UW or MSU. Maybe playing with his brother is that important.
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I just don't see why Henry would pick Marquette over Duke, UW or MSU. Maybe playing with his brother is that important.
Of course, this is coming from the troller from the UW boards..... ::)
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Hey Wally Ellenson is not a bad player. Athletic and he is a threat shooting. He is listed at 6-5.
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He can get a full ride for track and field and then be a "walk on" to the basketball team and not use a basketball scholarship.
Vicious lie, as others have stated.
There is a hierarchy and it's clear in the D-I Manual. Football is at the top, then it's basketball, men's ice hockey, chick's volleyball... then down to certain men's "water sports".. and the rest get lumped in together from there.
As for Wally, don't pay much attention his stats at Minnesota. He never got a chance. Also, broke his finger in the fall of his freshman year.. from there, things just didn't work out. Over the years I've seen him do amazing things on the court. Hard worker and ultra-athletic for a trad. Has 3-point range but very aggressive and can attack the rim. High flyer. All over the offensive boards.
He and his two brothers were "Warriors" together at Rice Lake HS and all played with D1 Minnesota AAU (fka Minnesota Pump N Run).
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I just don't see why Henry would pick Marquette over Duke, UW or MSU.
You might want to ask Vander Blue. ::)
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Who said that we would only recruit Wally to get Henry? Maybe Wojo thinks that Wally alone is worth the scholarship. And who said we are even recruiting Wally outside of this tweet?
I've heard that the recruitment of the Hauser kid up at SPASH is driven largely by the fact that his little brother is a better prospect and the hope for a package as well. Speculation? BS? That is not for us to know and the Interweb is all about conjecture!
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I just don't see why Henry would pick Marquette over Duke, UW or MSU. Maybe playing with his brother is that important.
Yes, the WI inferiority complex in full bloom for the spring.
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Hey Wally Ellenson is not a bad player. Athletic and he is a threat shooting. He is listed at 6-5.
Yeah, I think you guys need to get it out of your head that he's some sort of D2 player. He's not.
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Pretty sure Marquette does not give out full ride track scholarships. The only sport does is basketball.
No full scholarships for soccer?
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Wally doesn't seem to have much game at all. Don't know why we'd want to tie up a scholarship for 3 years on him if there wasn't a string attached.
With his jumping ability, he could be the next Jim Dudley, a/k/a Cloud Piercer.
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Correct. Can't hide guys in the olympic sports.
Is buryin' the one eyed snake still an Olympic sport?
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Is buryin' the one eyed snake still an Olympic sport?
Blind Snake
(http://goteaminternet.com/img/docs/82330.jpg)
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Blind Snake
(http://goteaminternet.com/img/docs/82330.jpg)
Well, I'll be damned.
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With his jumping ability, he could be the next Jim Dudley, a/k/a Cloud Piercer.
Hey Dudley helped win a key tournament game, Wake Forest I think, on the 77 road to the championship.
Have the brother do the opening tip, like Otule.
Doesn't 6'3" Pat Smith still hold the single game rebound record for the Warriors?
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Hey Dudley helped win a key tournament game, Wake Forest I think, on the 77 road to the championship.
Have the brother do the opening tip, like Otule.
Doesn't 6'3" Pat Smith still hold the single game rebound record for the Warriors?
Jim Dudley saved the Warriors in the Kansas St. game, Wake Forest was Bernard Toone.
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Toone was named the Chevrolet player of the game vs. Wake as was pissed to learn he didn't get to keep the scholarship money donated to MU for his efforts.
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Yes, the WI inferiority complex in full bloom for the spring.
He said that he would end up at Duke, Michigan State or Wisconsin and that is the "WI inferiority complex"?
::)
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I just don't see why Henry would pick Marquette over Duke, UW or MSU. Maybe playing with his brother is that important.
I love that I have someone imitating me on this board. Who pretends to be a troll from another team's board? How bored do you have to be? I dont actually post here much and if I do I wont post something like this. I would post something like this on a Badger board but not here.
And to the comment about Wally Ellenson, he is not a high major player. He couldnt get off the bench on a Gopher team that struggled at the forward spot. He is an elite athlete but not an elite basketball player.
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I love that I have someone imitating me on this board. Who pretends to be a troll from another team's board? How bored do you have to be? I dont actually post here much and if I do I wont post something like this. I would post something like this on a Badger board but not here.
And to the comment about Wally Ellenson, he is not a high major player. He couldnt get off the bench on a Gopher team that struggled at the forward spot. He is an elite athlete but not an elite basketball player.
You really think this guy is trying to imitate you? If that were true I would think the name would be a lot closer.
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You really think this guy is trying to imitate you? If that were true I would think the name would be a lot closer.
It is actually my name on another board - the scout board. I have one for the scout boards and then one for others. It is a long very boring story how it happened. So yes he is imitating me. He isnt a Badger fan. He is a Marquette fan trolling as a Badger. You could choose not to believe me. I doubt I have much credibility here since I am clearly not a Marquette fan and dont post here very often.
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It is actually my name on another board - the scout board. I have one for the scout boards and then one for others. It is a long very boring story how it happened. So yes he is imitating me. He isnt a Badger fan. He is a Marquette fan trolling as a Badger. You could choose not to believe me. I doubt I have much credibility here since I am clearly not a Marquette fan and dont post here very often.
Interesting. That makes it much more likely that you're right I suppose. The idea of trolling and creating extra accounts and all that stuff just seems so foreign to me and a lot of effort where I just don't understand the payoff.
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I'd be in the minority on this, but when I saw SPASH at Christmas time, I like Hauser better than Anderson. Like I said, I'd be in the minority on that.
And I think Wally would be more than just a scholarship fill at MU.
Seen all of the above play in person BTW FWIW.
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Interesting. That makes it much more likely that you're right I suppose. The idea of trolling and creating extra accounts and all that stuff just seems so foreign to me and a lot of effort where I just don't understand the payoff.
I try not to troll here. I come to get recruiting info for the most part. You have some people on this board who are really in the know. That is why I barely post. I am more of a lurker. I used to frequent the other MU board a little but got banned when talking about the Bo and Uthoff situation. Made me realize I probably had better ways to use my time. I also followed this board closely during the coaching search. It was more informative than local media. I will be here off and on because of Stone and Ellenson.
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Toone was named the Chevrolet player of the game vs. Wake as was pissed to learn he didn't get to keep the scholarship money donated to MU for his efforts.
Bernard was a weird dude. I had classes with him in the old Colege of Speech. When he did show up, and it was rare, he sat in the back and read the sports page.
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EYE---Right on Sam Hauser is the guy. Anderson has to be set up to shoot. Hauser--Catch and shoot.
Wally Ellenson--Better than average shooter, excellent hops (rebounding) is 6-5 over 200. Plays "D".
Would be a 3-star pickup. But, he will be coming in as a Junior.