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Title: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: tower912 on April 17, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2014&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=

And another reason he will not make the league.    6'6.75 w/out shoes.
Jamil 6'6 w/out shoes. 
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Les Nessman on April 17, 2014, 08:11:47 PM
He's also the heaviest player there.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: EnderWiggen on April 17, 2014, 08:26:32 PM
He's also the heaviest player there.

all muscle
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: keefe on April 17, 2014, 08:30:29 PM
He's also the heaviest player there.

100% Prime Beef
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Sir Lawrence on April 17, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
Can't wait to see his vertical #.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: tower912 on April 17, 2014, 08:44:14 PM
Measured in centimeters while everyone else is measured in inches.   
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2014, 10:00:41 PM
100% Prime Beef

Definitely has some "marbling" but the bone in ribeye is the tastiest of steaks.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: WarriorFan on April 17, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
For "Body Fat" it should just say "yes"
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Jay Bee on April 17, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
Big Sheesh playing back home...

https://twitter.com/JBBauer612/status/456990212854267906 (https://twitter.com/JBBauer612/status/456990212854267906)

@JBBauer612
Davante Gardner & Jamil Wilson played vs each other tonight & lead their respective teams w/18 each. DG's team wins 79-77. #mubb

9:58pm · 17 Apr 14 · TweetDeck
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: JWags85 on April 17, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
Drew Crawford is 6'5 without shoes?  Damn.  I think he's a bit slow to play in the league, but damn he has great size for a combo guard, considering how thick he is.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: TealOnly on April 17, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
Id like to see Heavy D do the shuttle run.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 17, 2014, 11:21:18 PM
How far is Blacksburg from Portsmouth?

Any Bert sightings?
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 18, 2014, 07:15:32 AM
Drew Crawford is 6'5 without shoes?  Damn.  I think he's a bit slow to play in the league, but damn he has great size for a combo guard, considering how thick he is.

Yeah, and unfortunately for him, speed and quickness is what matters most in the NBA... especially if he plans to guard anyone.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 18, 2014, 07:22:32 AM
Davante's not fat.  He's just hot. 
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on April 18, 2014, 07:50:38 AM
Davante's not fat.  He's just hot. 

You got it.  I love that quote.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: MU B2002 on April 19, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/457711154458939392

Twitter tracker

Gardener PIT MVP.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: madtownwarrior on April 19, 2014, 10:16:20 PM

Nice Wilson and Gardner 1st teamers at the PIT but Buzz leads them to a 17-15 record. 

https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/457711154458939392

Twitter tracker

Gardener PIT MVP.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: keefe on April 19, 2014, 11:23:10 PM
Definitely has some "marbling" but the bone in ribeye is the tastiest of steaks.

The fat is where the flavor is, Lenny.

Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: chapman on April 19, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
Gardener PIT MVP.

Following in JFB's footsteps.  


Nice Wilson and Gardner 1st teamers at the PIT but Buzz leads them to a 17-15 record.  

Twitter word is that Gardner and Markel Starks were money together.  Can only imagine if he had a decent point guard and coach this year.  

Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 19, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2014-Portsmouth-Invitational-Tournament-Day-Two-4475

Jamil Wilson, 6-7, Small Forward, Marquette – 18 points, 2 rebounds, 2 blocks, 7-16 FG, 1-4 3P- Wilson made shots from different spots on the floor and a nice job showing his versatility defensively. He's got very good physical attributes and is likely to draw some added looks from NBA teams during the pre-draft process

Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: SonofPianoMan on April 20, 2014, 07:45:28 AM
Davante got the Portsmouth MVP... Well done young man...

https://twitter.com/kp360agency/status/457697791415169024/photo/1 (ftp://https://twitter.com/kp360agency/status/457697791415169024/photo/1)
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: NersEllenson on April 20, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
Following in JFB's footsteps.  


Twitter word is that Gardner and Markel Starks were money together.  Can only imagine if he had a decent point guard and coach this year.  



He did....but the coach just chose to sit him on the bench for 30+ minutes a game and DNP him many others...Gardner said at Media Day Dawson was looking the best out of the freshman.  Would have been nice to have gotten him developed/experience for this year, while also giving Davante a chance to do some serious work his senior season.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: WarriorFan on April 20, 2014, 09:19:16 AM
I like the 1-2 3 pointers...  the kid can really shoot.  If he had the green light on 3's this year rather than the ejection seat, it would have been a different year.   Yeah, I know you stat junkies are going to cite some low percentage, but that's because he knew if he didn't make it he'd get benched, so he wasn't shooting them with confidence.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: ThatDude on April 20, 2014, 09:29:46 AM
Following in JFB's footsteps.  


Twitter word is that Gardner and Markel Starks were money together.  Can only imagine if he had a decent point guard and coach this year.  



+100
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 20, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Following in JFB's footsteps.  


Twitter word is that Gardner and Markel Starks were money together.  Can only imagine if he had a decent point guard and coach this year.  



Without teams sagging to clog the lane, Gardner would have been a BE POY candidate and we would have lived up to preseason hype. I felt the worst for Gardner this year, he didn't get a chance to show off his unique offensive skill set.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: AZWarrior on April 20, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
Without teams sagging to clog the lane, Gardner would have been a BE POY candidate and we would have lived up to preseason hype. I felt the worst for Gardner this year, he didn't get a chance to show off his unique offensive skill set.

Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 20, 2014, 12:00:57 PM
Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.

Don't think it was scheme so much as riding a player that was offensively bankrupt at PG for ~35 mpg making it exponentially easier to guard Gardner. The PT allotment and recruiting miss at the position are Buzz' fault though.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: MU82 on April 20, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 20, 2014, 12:51:29 PM
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.

For sure. He's going to eat and eat well overseas. He just needs to stay healthy and focused.

Heck, if Dwight Burke is still playing abroad, Davante can!
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: muhoosier260 on April 20, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: AZWarrior on April 20, 2014, 02:39:56 PM
Don't think it was scheme so much as riding a player that was offensively bankrupt at PG for ~35 mpg making it exponentially easier to guard Gardner. The PT allotment and recruiting miss at the position are Buzz' fault though.

I don't disagree with anything you said.  However, I said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".   ;)
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: willie warrior on April 20, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.
Exactly. Buzz actually had no offensive scheming, other than Derrick dribbling around the perimeter while his man double teamed the post. best exemplified by the 12 year old daughter of a fan who the Dad said knows absolutely nothing about the game saying, "Daddy, why isn't anybody guarding #12?" That should be the tag line for all the slurpers.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 20, 2014, 03:30:28 PM
I don't disagree with anything you said.  However, I said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".   ;)

Haha okay I get what you're saying now
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 20, 2014, 03:54:31 PM
Exactly. Buzz actually had no offensive scheming, other than Derrick dribbling around the perimeter while his man double teamed the post. best exemplified by the 12 year old daughter of a fan who the Dad said knows absolutely nothing about the game saying, "Daddy, why isn't anybody guarding #12?" That should be the tag line for all the slurpers.


A swing and a miss, strike two.  We'll try again.  He said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 20, 2014, 07:28:55 PM
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.

I think I remember hearing that Gardner weighed 330 in High School.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Sunbelt15 on April 21, 2014, 08:21:44 AM
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.

I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 21, 2014, 08:26:41 AM
He'd be better off as a undrafted free agent so he can pick his team.

Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: willie warrior on April 21, 2014, 09:06:12 AM
A swing and a miss, strike two.  We'll try again.  He said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".
Sorry, only strike 1 as I did use scheming.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: wadesworld on April 21, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

Want to put a wager on that?
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: ronald dragon on April 21, 2014, 10:33:42 AM
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.
Draft pick?  Unlikely.  But i could see a team signing him as an undrafted free agent to see what they can get
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: Sharpie on April 21, 2014, 11:07:32 AM
Would love it if DG ends up on an NBA roster. I just don't see it happening. There's not many 6'6" post players that aren't athletic. And by not many, I'm guessing none. If love for him to be an exception though.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: MU82 on April 21, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

One word:

No.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: 🏀 on April 21, 2014, 12:23:37 PM
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

Should I add you to the list below?
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: spartan3186 on April 21, 2014, 12:32:35 PM
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.

He was listed at 295 in a Rosiak article from when he was signed.

Quote
Davante Gardner, a 6-foot-8, 295-pounder from King's Fork High School in Suffolk, Va., signed with the Golden Eagles, giving them an intriguing prospect expected to bring not only size but skill to a frontcourt in need of both.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/92733734.html
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: wadesworld on April 21, 2014, 01:35:23 PM
Should I add you to the list below?

Yes.
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 21, 2014, 01:39:06 PM
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

Yes, those are the positives but he struggles to run the court, challenge defenders around the rim, and cover the ground from the key to the 3 pt.

But the acting when fouled is definitely NBA level. ;)
Title: Davante Gardner named MVP in Portsmouth Invitational Tournament
Post by: rmi210 on April 21, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
I do not know if this has been posted but DG was named Portsmouth Tourney MVP

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/04/21/Davante_Gardner_named_MVP_in_Portsmouth_Invitational_Tournam/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://article.wn.com/view/2014/04/21/Davante_Gardner_named_MVP_in_Portsmouth_Invitational_Tournam/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Title: Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
Post by: NersEllenson on April 22, 2014, 07:51:03 AM
Gardner will get a look from an NBA team this fall, likely as an undrafted free agent...which could be his best way to make a team.

He's too uniquely talented for an NBA team to not take a look at, and put him on the court with their guys..and see how he fares.  He's been able to score at one of the most efficient rates in college basketball every year from freshman season to senior year.  Some team will want to se if that can translate to NBA and how he'll defend NBA caliber players..
Title: Davante Gardner named MVP of Portsmouth Invitational
Post by: sv48 on April 22, 2014, 05:37:44 PM
Didn't see this posted anywhere, sorry if I missed it. Also, both Gardner and Wilson made the all-star team, making MU the only team with two players on the all-star team.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/20/marquettes-davante-gardner-named-mvp-of-portsmouth-invitational-video/
Title: Re: Davante Gardner named MVP of Portsmouth Invitational
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 22, 2014, 07:22:33 PM
Oh it has been.

The news was in here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43849.0;all