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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Celtic Truth on April 06, 2014, 10:56:24 PM
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Its official, JaJuan Johnson said he is staying at Marquette. I saw him out last night, had a great conversation with him and he told me he is staying. He likes Wojo a lot and he's really excited about the future.
Believe it or not but this is THE TRUTH
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Its official, JaJuan Johnson said he is staying at Marquette. I saw him out last night, had a great conversation with him and he told me he is staying. He likes Wojo a lot and he's really excited about the future.
Believe it or not but this is THE TRUTH
What else did he have to say? What does he like about Wojo? Did he say anything else about the other teammates?
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He said he thinks Wojo is a straight up guy, and he brings a new positive attitude to the program. And he has a lot of energy and is ready to get things rolling. I also told JJJ that Buzz screwed him this past year by not playing him, and he obviously seemed to agree. I said that this upcoming year Todd is going to get a lot of minutes at the 2guard but there should be consistent minutes at the 2 and 3 for JJJ. He agreed, he thinks Todd deserves to play a lot of consistent minutes, but JJJ thinks he'll get steady time. And his junior and senior years he'll step right into the starting spot and play big minutes.
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He said he thinks Wojo is a straight up guy, and he brings a new positive attitude to the program. And he has a lot of energy and is ready to get things rolling. I also told JJJ that Buzz screwed him this past year by not playing him, and he obviously seemed to agree. I said that this upcoming year Todd is going to get a lot of minutes at the 2guard but there should be consistent minutes at the 2 and 3 for JJJ. He agreed, he thinks Todd deserves to play a lot of consistent minutes, but JJJ thinks he'll get steady time. And his junior and senior years he'll step right into the starting spot and play big minutes.
I dont think its a good idea to put those thoughts into his head. Let Wojo talk to him about playing time.
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I dont think its a good idea to put those thoughts into his head. Let Wojo talk to him about playing time.
Don't worry about it. He knows Wojo is boss. It would have been interesting if Celtic Truth would have told him to work on his defense. That would have been hilarious.
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I dont think its a good idea to put those thoughts into his head. Let Wojo talk to him about playing time.
JJJ, needs to worry about one thing this summer, improvement, gain 15 lbs., get stronger as MU will be playing small next year. I see Mayo playing the 3, not quick enough to play the 2. I like
to see Dawson and Wilson playing together, of course, the wild card is Hill. I can see a 3 guard line-up next year as the only bigs are Taylor and Burton, I see them both playing 20 minutes next year. If you play them together, there will be not bench as of right now, I forgot Juan, but I have to see great improvement before I see him playing. Hope it happens.
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JJJ, needs to worry about one thing this summer, improvement, gain 15 lbs., get stronger as MU will be playing small next year. I see Mayo playing the 3, not quick enough to play the 2. I like
to see Dawson and Wilson playing together, of course, the wild card is Hill. I can see a 3 guard line-up next year as the only bigs are Taylor and Burton, I see them both playing 20 minutes next year. If you play them together, there will be not bench as of right now, I forgot Juan, but I have to see great improvement before I see him playing. Hope it happens.
How small are we going here? 6'4 Burton at the 4 spot and Mayo at the 3? There's not enough 3 point firepower to go that small when you have Wilson out there.
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Some people quickly forgot the type of talent that JJJ has. There was a reason he was #27 in the ESPN top 100, and the #3 SG in the country. He does need to get stronger, and refine his jumper over the summer but he has amazing potential. His confidence was clearly shook by Brent, and his minutes were amazingly inconsistent. He would go from a starter, to a bench player, to someone who didn't play at all, it was ridiculous. He should be as happy as anyone that Brent is gone, and hopefully this year he shows what he is capable of.
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We'll see about Mayo
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We'll see about Mayo
Europe?
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From what I have heard, yes JJJ is staying.
However, do I believe this story for second?
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We'll see about Mayo
Not sure what you are hearing. I'm hearing the exact opposite
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Not sure what you are hearing. I'm hearing the exact opposite
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I dont think its a good idea to put those thoughts into his head. Let Wojo talk to him about playing time.
"Why the hell am I sitting, Coach?? Celtic Truth told me I would be playing, you sonuvabitch!"
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I dont think its a good idea to put those thoughts into his head. Let Wojo talk to him about playing time.
Lol
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How small are we going here? 6'4 Burton at the 4 spot and Mayo at the 3? There's not enough 3 point firepower to go that small when you have Wilson out there.
This is an excellent point. Most teams that go with four guys who stand 6-5 or less do so to spread the court for their 3-point shooters. We lost the 3-point battle badly in almost every game last season. That, along with an almost complete absence of steals converted to fastbreak hoops, doomed our offense and torpedoed our season.
Now, Duane was a 55% shooter from 3-point range in high school and JJJ obviously could fill it up, too. Mayo has his moments. Put that together with Burton, who showed surprising range in his few trey attempts and Fischer, who supposedly can be a stretch-4, and maybe there's more there than we've seen to date. Even Taylor occasionally had been willing to take the top-of-the-key "Lazar & Jae 3."
Yet another in the long list of "We'll see" factors entering next season.
If this is accurate about JJJ definitely returning -- and we have no reason to think it isn't -- that's great news.
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For people that really know something, does Wojo change JJJ's shot? The form is so terrible. Or, do coach's just go with what they got if they hit a reasonable amount?
I think it would benefit him to change his shot to at least not release low from the side.
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For people that really know something, does Wojo change JJJ's shot? The form is so terrible. Or, do coach's just go with what they got if they hit a reasonable amount?
I think it would benefit him to change his shot to at least not release low from the side.
As long as it works it doesnt really matter.
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For people that really know something, does Wojo change JJJ's shot? The form is so terrible. Or, do coach's just go with what they got if they hit a reasonable amount?
I think it would benefit him to change his shot to at least not release low from the side.
Did John Wooden, who knew a thing or two about coaching, change Keith (now Jamaal) Wilkes' shot? If it ain't broke ...
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Were you also the source for #donedeal?
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FIXED THE SUBJECT LINE.
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For people that really know something, does Wojo change JJJ's shot? The form is so terrible. Or, do coach's just go with what they got if they hit a reasonable amount?
I think it would benefit him to change his shot to at least not release low from the side.
I doubt it. I'm a Wolves fan and always cringe at Kevin Martin's ugly jumper. He said that coaches have always tried to change it but he stuck with what was comfortable to him. He's a 39% 3 pt shooter and 89% from the line. I wouldn't want him to tinker with it too much and would say the same for JJJ.
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I doubt it. I'm a Wolves fan and always cringe at Kevin Martin's ugly jumper. He said that coaches have always tried to change it but he stuck with what was comfortable to him. He's a 39% 3 pt shooter and 89% from the line. I wouldn't want him to tinker with it too much and would say the same for JJJ.
Jerel's was ugly too, and he went from a 28% three point shooter to a 40% three point shooter his senior year. Reggie Miller's wasn't textbook either. I think JJJ just needs to build some more strength and shoot it with confidence and he should be fine.
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I doubt it. I'm a Wolves fan and always cringe at Kevin Martin's ugly jumper. He said that coaches have always tried to change it but he stuck with what was comfortable to him. He's a 39% 3 pt shooter and 89% from the line. I wouldn't want him to tinker with it too much and would say the same for JJJ.
Agreed. If they make them you leave it be. Kevin Martin knew how to get the ball in the hoop and that was the objective, good form is just a plus.
Shawn Marion had years of success you will never teach a kid to shoot like that.
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I think his shot is fine and can't wait to see what he can do knowing he won't be yanked if he misses his first shot.
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Were you also the source for #donedeal?
I was definitely not a source for #donedeal. And this post was my first one on the scoop. I've been reading for a while and everything I wrote on this topic is 100% legit and I decided to write because I had a topic of great value to write on, and MU fans need to know the truth.
As I said before, this is THE TRUTH
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Sounds like info that I would find interesting as well.
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For people that really know something, does Wojo change JJJ's shot? The form is so terrible. Or, do coach's just go with what they got if they hit a reasonable amount?
I think it would benefit him to change his shot to at least not release low from the side.
Junior Bridgeman had terrible form. I believe the Bucks retired his jersey a few years back....
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Sounds like info that I would find interesting as well.
I find myself in that camp as well...
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I was definitely not a source for #donedeal. And this post was my first one on the scoop. I've been reading for a while and everything I wrote on this topic is 100% legit and I decided to write because I had a topic of great value to write on, and MU fans need to know the truth.
As I said before, this is THE TRUTH
But it is a Celtic truth. Celtic = Irish = Notre Dame.
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But it is a Celtic truth. Celtic = Irish = Notre Dame.
Sorry Buddy but you are incorrect. Yes I am Irish, and from Boston, and I love the Celtics and Paul Pierce who is "The Truth". Absolutely nothing to do with those clowns from South Bend.
This is THE TRUTH
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I don't know if Celtic is telling the truth or not, and I know the guy doesn't have many posts, but I just find it funny how the board jumps all over the guy for saying something he heard but then slobbers all over each other to decode false false information from haikus.
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I don't know if Celtic is telling the truth or not, and I know the guy doesn't have many posts, but I just find it funny how the board jumps all over the guy for saying something he heard but then slobbers all over each other to decode false false information from haikus.
Lol so true but terrible
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I don't take any offense to what other people say on here. I kind of think its funny when people doubt me, I get a kick out of it. But you can take it to the bank that JJJ is in a Marquette uniform next year.
That's THE TRUTH
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Junior Bridgeman had terrible form. I believe the Bucks retired his jersey a few years back....
Nothing wrong at all with Junior's shooting form that I recall.
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Sorry Buddy but you are incorrect. Yes I am Irish, and from Boston, and I love the Celtics and Paul Pierce who is "The Truth". Absolutely nothing to do with those clowns from South Bend.
This is THE TRUTH
Very nice! Clowns from South Bend. It checks. Welcome Aboard!!! I was just breaking your balls. Speaking of that.... how'd it feel to get swept by the Brewers this weekend?
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Sorry Buddy but you are incorrect. Yes I am Irish, and from Boston, and I love the Celtics and Paul Pierce who is "The Truth". Absolutely nothing to do with those clowns from South Bend.
This is THE TRUTH
Wouldn't that make you Irish American?
But thanks for the update, whether it's true or he was just appeasing someone talking to him I can appreciate someone passing along info they here.
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MUScoop For Noobz Who Want To Be Taken Seriously:
Lesson #1: Back it up, yo. You got some 4-1-1 to spill? Then you best be showing the container it came in.
Lesson #2: If you can't follow #1, then truth may only be defined by a consensus.
Lesson #3: It takes three "scoops" to be considered an ice cream cone of knowledge. To this day, only a handful of triple scoop scoopers exists, and most don't post very often, if at all anymore.
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Very nice! Clowns from South Bend. It checks. Welcome Aboard!!! I was just breaking your balls. Speaking of that.... how'd it feel to get swept by the Brewers this weekend?
Im from Boston, bustin balls is a way of life, I love it. The Sox starting rotation looks good, but the bullpen blew it and the bats were really quiet. I didn't expect us to tear it up to start off the year, but when October comes around I know we'll still be playing, and the Brewers will be taking steroids or doing whatever the hell else they do in the offseason.
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Im from Boston, bustin balls is a way of life, I love it. The Sox starting rotation looks good, but the bullpen blew it and the bats were really quiet. I didn't expect us to tear it up to start off the year, but when October comes around I know we'll still be playing, and the Brewers will be taking steroids or doing whatever the hell else they do in the offseason.
Easy now!!! The Brewers assembled a crackpot team of marketing executives and have executed a great plan to sweep the (Ryan Braun Fiasco) under the table. We now have a new team mascot, that is a cute, little stray dog that just happened to walk onto the spring training fields in Arizona. The media has pumped is image out everywhere and mother and children seem to be drooling all over this little mutt. He even has gotten a bobblehead to be distributed at later game this year!!! I guarantee, this little guy will warm your heart.....
PED's? No..... look at our cute dog we have!!!
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Junior Bridgeman had terrible form. I believe the Bucks retired his jersey a few years back....
Bridgeman had great form - classic jump shot.
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Bridgeman had great form - classic jump shot.
Pure shooter - Great form!
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Nothing is confirmed unless Jim Ganzer announces it.
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Bridgeman's shot was incredibly flat. My recollection was that he explained this was the result of learning to shoot in a tiny gym with low ceilings (think maybe Gary or East Chicago, Indiana?).
He made lots of shots...but his form was FAR from classic.
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The Pancake Jumper as Eddie Doucette used to call it.
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Bridgeman's shot was incredibly flat. My recollection was that he explained this was the result of learning to shoot in a tiny gym with low ceilings (think maybe Gary or East Chicago, Indiana?).
He made lots of shots...but his form was FAR from classic.
Low trajectory, but he had classic form on the jumper.
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Bridgeman's shot was incredibly flat. My recollection was that he explained this was the result of learning to shoot in a tiny gym with low ceilings (think maybe Gary or East Chicago, Indiana?).
He made lots of shots...but his form was FAR from classic.
When my kids were growing up, we lived in a very nice neighborhood about a mile West of Wrigley Field and they went to one of the best grade schools in Chicago. There were so many ropes and ladders and partial screens and other stuff hanging from the ceiling of our little gym that it required considerably less arc on shots. Oh, and the ceiling for some reason jutted down above the endlines, so corner jumpers would slam into it.
We had the best homecourt advantage in our league!
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Some people quickly forgot the type of talent that JJJ has. There was a reason he was #27 in the ESPN top 100, and the #3 SG in the country. He does need to get stronger, and refine his jumper over the summer but he has amazing potential. His confidence was clearly shook by Brent, and his minutes were amazingly inconsistent. He would go from a starter, to a bench player, to someone who didn't play at all, it was ridiculous. He should be as happy as anyone that Brent is gone, and hopefully this year he shows what he is capable of.
JJJ has speed quickness anticipation and court vision. He needs consistent minutes to take advantage of his skill set . I think he will do well in he new regime.
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JJJ has speed quickness anticipation and court vision. He needs consistent minutes to take advantage of his skill set . I think he will do well in he new regime.
I think you are right. As is the case with Burton -- and many other young college players -- JJJ needs to get better at basic defense. But as is the case with Burton, JJJ's quickness and anticipation led to many deflections and steals -- which we needed far more of last season and will need far more of this year.
Even if Derrick and Jake were as good defensively as Buzz claimed, they did not cause the kind of turnovers that result in fastbreak layups, one of the main reasons we struggled to score.
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Low trajectory, but he had classic form on the jumper.
Most people I know consider the angle of release part of the form. Guess we'll have to disagree.
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I think you are right. As is the case with Burton -- and many other young college players -- JJJ needs to get better at basic defense. But as is the case with Burton, JJJ's quickness and anticipation led to many deflections and steals -- which we needed far more of last season and will need far more of this year.
Even if Derrick and Jake were as good defensively as Buzz claimed, they did not cause the kind of turnovers that result in fastbreak layups, one of the main reasons we struggled to score.
Who cares if they could create turnovers if they couldn't finish?
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Who cares if they could create turnovers if they couldn't finish?
Because it's all about DEFLECTIONS !!!!!!
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JJJ has speed quickness anticipation and court vision. He needs consistent minutes to take advantage of his skill set . I think he will do well in he new regime.
Agree...Buzz was a disaster last year. Same will hold true for Dawson if he gets consistent minutes and doesn't have to worry about 1 missed shot, or 1 turnover resulting in the horn. Excited to see what Duane can bring to the mix next year. Team excites me and excited to see what Wojo comes up with...but see a lot of potential with:
Dawson/Duane
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Fischer (come January)
Rebounding is going to be the challenge for next year's team..hopefully Fischer can provide that...and Deonte get after it down low as well. Juan and Derrick play energy minutes off the bench...and keep riding them if playing well..otherwise spot duty.
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Rebounding is going to be the challenge for next year's team..hopefully Fischer can provide that...and Deonte get after it down low as well. Juan and Derrick play energy minutes off the bench...and keep riding them if playing well..otherwise spot duty.
The entire key for rebounding next season is Taylor. If he doesn't average 7+ boards a game next year we are going to get clobberred on the glass.
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As long as it works it doesnt really matter.
Ask Shawn Marion.
Or JKidd.
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The Pancake Jumper as Eddie Doucette used to call it.
Bobby Dandridge had the pancake jumper:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/29557039.html
Dandridge became well-known for his signature "pancake jumper," a phrase coined by former Bucks radio announcer Eddie Doucette, who served as co-emcee for the ceremony Friday.
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The entire key for rebounding next season is Taylor. If he doesn't average 7+ boards a game next year we are going to get clobberred on the glass.
Great point...sadly...I forgot about Steve when I made my post....guess as a result from Buzz basically "redshirting" him last year!
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All I know is that he was a mouse until he got into the PED cabinet.
PED's? No..... look at our cute dog we have!!!
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All I know is that he was a mouse until he got into the PED cabinet.
Just need to make sure the drug test is handled right this time.
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Because it's all about DEFLECTIONS !!!!!!
Wrong coach.
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IIRC--the reason for Junior Bridgemans flat shot was he was an outdoor baller who also was a shooter. So, in order to not have to 'play the wind' he shot a line drive....effectively I might add.
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The entire key for rebounding next season is Taylor. If he doesn't average 7+ boards a game next year we are going to get clobberred on the glass.
JJJ can be a decent rebounder at the 3 or even the 2. Obviously, can't depend on it, but he can put a little make-up on the blemish.
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Because it's all about DEFLECTIONS !!!!!!
deflections to paint touches to wins
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Bridgeman's shot was incredibly flat. My recollection was that he explained this was the result of learning to shoot in a tiny gym with low ceilings (think maybe Gary or East Chicago, Indiana?).
He made lots of shots...but his form was FAR from classic.
heard the same story. was going to post until i saw yours. junior, in the toaster, grabs the rebound, brings the ball up past the cyclops and pulls up for the pancake jumper...bango!!!
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We'll see about Mayo
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I had heard long ago something like this was in the works, but it was going to be a transfer, not going pro. More to the story....somewhere LW is having a chuckle.
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As long as he's not chuckling in an office at MU, I'm good with it.
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...somewhere LW is having a chuckle.
Anybody who gets a chuckle out of this is a total a-hole.
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Anybody who gets a chuckle out of this is a total a-hole.
Right on the money! An a-hole in the 99th percentile of a-holes. One of those insecure self-congratulatory types.
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As long as he's not chuckling in an office at MU, I'm good with it.
Exactly. I'm having a chuckle at LW having a chuckle at this. He sucks
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Exactly. I'm having a chuckle at LW having a chuckle at this. He sucks
You might be chuckling at the thought of LW chuckling but the litmus test is whether Scoop's Buckchuckler is chuckling at your chuckling at the thought of LW chuckling. I chuckle at the very thought
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You might be chuckling at the thought of LW chuckling but the litmus test is whether Scoop's Buckchuckler is chuckling at your chuckling at the thought of LW chuckling. I chuckle at the very thought
That made me chuckle
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Anybody who gets a chuckle out of this is a total a-hole.
LW had the task of looking out for the MU athletic department in general, this continues to be lost on you and others. This should have happened a long time ago. Risk assessment, which LW got. You keep viewing it through your Buzz eyes, while LW was looking at it through MU eyes. I'll take that type of a-hole any day of the week, because that's a longer term, strategic view and not a short term, win now view. There are chances and there are chances worth taking. You don't have to take every chance, every reach.
You just don't have all the details....there's a reason why almost 3 months ago I had my sincere doubts he was back.
Carry on.
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LW had the task of looking out for the MU athletic department in general, this continues to be lost on you and others. This should have happened a long time ago. Risk assessment, which LW got. You keep viewing it through your Buzz eyes, while LW was looking at it through MU eyes. I'll take that type of a-hole any day of the week, because that's a longer term, strategic view and not a short term, win now view. There are chances and there are chances worth taking. You don't have to take every chance, every reach.
You just don't have all the details....there's a reason why almost 3 months ago I had my sincere doubts he was back.
Carry on.
Trying to recall ... did you even hint in the past 3 months that you thought there was a real good chance Mayo would leave?
Not saying you did or didn't. Just wondering.
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Trying to recall ... did you even hint in the past 3 months that you thought there was a real good chance Mayo would leave?
Not saying you did or didn't. Just wondering.
Was it a possibility 3 months ago? Yup. Did coach Wojo and Todd know 3 months ago that Todd would not be playing next season? Nope.
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Trying to recall ... did you even hint in the past 3 months that you thought there was a real good chance Mayo would leave?
Not saying you did or didn't. Just wondering.
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Chico and I both said in April that Mayo was in all likelihood not coming back. There is a lot more to the story that doesn't serve anyone - Bert and Marquette especially - so it is better left unsaid. Mayo was an odd duck and it is probably best for everyone that he seeks other opportunities. I hope he succeeds but do bear in mind he will never go hungry regardless of how he does in his professional basketball career.
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Chico and I both said in April that Mayo was in all likelihood not coming back. There is a lot more to the story that doesn't serve anyone - Bert and Marquette especially - so it is better left unsaid. Mayo was an odd duck and it is probably best for everyone that he seeks other opportunities. I hope he succeeds but do bear in mind he will never go hungry regardless of how he does in his professional basketball career.
There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
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There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
Duane was not healthy, so I am not sure what you are talking about here. At some point Buzz knew JJJ and Taylor were planning on transferring and most coaches do not bother to play players that are leaving. I am not idolizing Buzz as he is responsible for his team he put together. However, like in any divorce the problems are not one sided. I have posted previously that everyone is happy with Wojo until they find out how much playing time they are going to get. You can only make an unhappy person happy for a short amount of time. That certainly apllied to Mayo. It still remains to be seen whether JJJ and Taylor can remain happy.
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Right on the money! An a-hole in the 99th percentile of a-holes. One of those insecure self-congratulatory types.
Also known as a domer.
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Duane was not healthy, so I am not sure what you are talking about here. At some point Buzz knew JJJ and Taylor were planning on transferring and most coaches do not bother to play players that are leaving. I am not idolizing Buzz as he is responsible for his team he put together. However, like in any divorce the problems are not one sided. I have posted previously that everyone is happy with Wojo until they find out how much playing time they are going to get. You can only make an unhappy person happy for a short amount of time. That certainly apllied to Mayo. It still remains to be seen whether JJJ and Taylor can remain happy.
So since Mayo left now we automatically have to start the JJJ and ST Jr. transfer watch? Nothing like the usual Scoop gloom and doom.
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There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
Hey I am white, Christian, pay taxes and believe in the Constitution (note the capital C).
As more and more comes out about last year, it's becomes more and more obvious why he did what he did. From Mayo...to Henry's stats on the PG position...to Taylor's injury...to people's selective memory about JJJ.
Good coach. Hope Wojo will be better.
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Hey I am white, Christian, pay taxes and believe in the Constitution (note the capital C).
As more and more comes out about last year, it's becomes more and more obvious why he did what he did. From Mayo...to Henry's stats on the PG position...to Taylor's injury...to people's selective memory about JJJ.
Good coach. Hope Wojo will be better.
Not to step into your favorite discussion but isnt this all semantics?
Buzz's motivation didnt work....he likely chose the 'right' personal given the situation but 1+1 = 1 last year. Frankly there were serious issues with strategy, execution and the cohesion of the team last year. Its on all of them.
Hopefully onward and upward with Wojo getting them moving in the right direction.
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Not to step into your favorite discussion but isnt this all semantics?
Buzz's motivation didnt work....he likely chose the 'right' personal given the situation but 1+1 = 1 last year. Frankly there were serious issues with strategy, execution and the cohesion of the team last year. Its on all of them.
Hopefully onward and upward with Wojo getting them moving in the right direction.
I've said it before, Buzz the General Manager let down Buzz the coach. Marquette was simply not a well rounded team. I think the most well rounded team was 2011-12 (Jae's senior year). Even 2012-13 was due to a fantastic backcourt that could manage to score without shooting the ball terrible well.
Last year was poorly constructed. I think even with Vander there, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference.
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Chico and I both said in April that Mayo was in all likelihood not coming back. There is a lot more to the story that doesn't serve anyone - Bert and Marquette especially - so it is better left unsaid. Mayo was an odd duck and it is probably best for everyone that he seeks other opportunities. I hope he succeeds but do bear in mind he will never go hungry regardless of how he does in his professional basketball career.
Thanks keefe. Makes sense.
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I've said it before, Buzz the General Manager let down Buzz the coach. Marquette was simply not a well rounded team. I think the most well rounded team was 2011-12 (Jae's senior year). Even 2012-13 was due to a fantastic backcourt that could manage to score without shooting the ball terrible well.
Last year was poorly constructed. I think even with Vander there, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference.
Really Sultan? Come on. You defended his decision making all season long. Saying the youngsters couldn't play defense, or we didn't see practice, etc. It was a joke. Some of us on the board were ripped suggesting Mayo wouldn't be back, Thomas was largely worthless and Juan was a DII player. Last year was a wasted season, and some of us could see it in November. None of those guys should have played meaningful minutes, outside of Mayo if he hit his first shot.
Hate to beat a dead horse, but had JJJ and Burton played from day 1, the team would have been tough by conference time. Now Marquette is starting from scratch again, very frustrating.
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Really Sultan? Come on. You defended his decision making all season long. Saying the youngsters couldn't play defense, or we didn't see practice, etc. It was a joke. Some of us on the board were ripped suggesting Mayo wouldn't be back, Thomas was largely worthless and Juan was a DII player. Last year was a wasted season, and some of us could see it in November. None of those guys should have played meaningful minutes, outside of Mayo if he hit his first shot.
Hate to beat a dead horse, but had JJJ and Burton played from day 1, the team would have been tough by conference time. Now Marquette is starting from scratch again, very frustrating.
You too? There are ways players improve their games outside of 40 minutes twice a week for 4 months. If we weren't going to start from scratch had Buzz played JJJ and Burton last year, then we aren't starting from scratch now.
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You too? There are ways players improve their games outside of 40 minutes twice a week for 4 months. If we weren't going to start from scratch had Buzz played JJJ and Burton last year, then we aren't starting from scratch now.
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't believe you can simulate the real game doing basketball drills. Playing real games is when players improve the most, that's why the scoop's favorite line about becoming a sophomore is spot on. Now JJJ is basically a freshman this year, when he deserved to play more last year. That was my point, scratch might have been extreme, but they could be much farther ahead then they are. Instead we had to watch Thomas and Juan fall over themselves.
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I'm not sure what you mean. I don't believe you can simulate the real game doing basketball drills. Playing real games is when players improve the most, that's why the scoop's favorite line about becoming a sophomore is spot on. Now JJJ is basically a freshman this year, when he deserved to play more last year. That was my point, scratch might have been extreme, but they could be much farther ahead then they are. Instead we had to watch Thomas and Juan fall over themselves.
Disagreed. You see the biggest improvement in players from 1 season to the next, not within 1 season, or from game to game. A player improves the most in the offseason because they can focus on skill development and improve their individual skill set. Rarely does a player make a giant leap from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. You see a giant leap from a players freshman year to his sophomore year, or his sophomore year to his junior year. Vander Blue didn't magically start finishing at the rim at the end of his freshman year after not doing so early on in the season, he started doing it at the start of his junior year and did it all throughout that year. Frank Kaminsky didn't start this season as a roll player and all of a sudden become a star come NCAA Tournament time, he went from a roll player last year to a star this entire season. Jimmy Butler didn't go from scrapper early in his junior year to star and first round pick by the end of the year, he went from scrapper his entire junior year to star and 1st round pick his senior year. Etc. etc. etc.
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There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
Boy you have an inferiority complex and low self esteem!
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There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
I see you are still stroking your boy's ego by bringing him up every chance you get. When can we expect you to start your anti-slurper campaign for those of us who have moved on to slurping Wojo?
And the "poor me, I'm a white american" act doesn't look good on anybody, and really had no place in this thread. Not sure why you brought it up. Unless, you were commiserating with Buzz because you are upset at all the perceived disadvantages you both face
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Disagreed. You see the biggest improvement in players from 1 season to the next, not within 1 season, or from game to game. A player improves the most in the offseason because they can focus on skill development and improve their individual skill set. Rarely does a player make a giant leap from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. You see a giant leap from a players freshman year to his sophomore year, or his sophomore year to his junior year. Vander Blue didn't magically start finishing at the rim at the end of his freshman year after not doing so early on in the season, he started doing it at the start of his junior year and did it all throughout that year. Frank Kaminsky didn't start this season as a roll player and all of a sudden become a star come NCAA Tournament time, he went from a roll player last year to a star this entire season. Jimmy Butler didn't go from scrapper early in his junior year to star and first round pick by the end of the year, he went from scrapper his entire junior year to star and 1st round pick his senior year. Etc. etc. etc.
Agreed on all counts except Jimmy Butler. Maybe because he was a JUCO transfer but he showed a lot of improvement during his first year. I think it had to do with getting comfort in the system rather than skill development. He did of course also get better year to year.
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I see you are still stroking your boy's ego by bringing him up every chance you get. When can we expect you to start your anti-slurper campaign for those of us who have moved on to slurping Wojo?
And the "poor me, I'm a white american" act doesn't look good on anybody, and really had no place in this thread. Not sure why you brought it up. Unless, you were commiserating with Buzz because you are upset at all the perceived disadvantages you both face
Thank you for the Civics lesson, Sherlock. Don't need it from you. I have no perceived disadvantages--maybe you do. You do not like my opinions-fine. But don't lecture unless you can produce your Doctorate in Lectureology.
And I have liked what I have seen from Wojo, a whole lot better than the phony cowboy, who you and a few others go way out of your beaten path to defend at every criticism, just like now. So save the gas--you will have less heartburn. When you stop the slurping, I will stop the call outs.
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Really Sultan? Come on. You defended his decision making all season long. Saying the youngsters couldn't play defense, or we didn't see practice, etc. It was a joke. Some of us on the board were ripped suggesting Mayo wouldn't be back, Thomas was largely worthless and Juan was a DII player. Last year was a wasted season, and some of us could see it in November. None of those guys should have played meaningful minutes, outside of Mayo if he hit his first shot.
Hate to beat a dead horse, but had JJJ and Burton played from day 1, the team would have been tough by conference time. Now Marquette is starting from scratch again, very frustrating.
Selective memory. Look at JJJ's minutes. He was given plenty of opportunity to produce early on. He had back to back good games against ASU and Fullerton...
And then he disappeared. 11 minutes against GW...no points, no assists, no rebounds. 9 minutes against SDSU...ditto. 10 minutes against UW...no points, two rebounds, one assist. Came back with some decent games against the rest of the soft schedule. Then the conference season. 14 minutes against Creighton...4 points. 14 minutes against Xavier...no points.
I'm sorry but the idea that JJJ didn't play meaningful minutes and get his chance is just false. He didn't do anything with those minutes when he played decent competition. You want Buzz to keep throwing him out there to rack up no stats? He looked completely overwhelmed IMO.
As for Deonte, he was great. The opposite of JJJ in that respect. But it is interesting to look at his game log.
During the BE season Marquette went 9-10 including the BET.
When Deonte went double digit minutes, Marquette went 3-8. When he didn't, they went 6-2...both of which were overtime losses in January.
So his lack of PT perhaps cost Marquette a game or two. Maybe.
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Selective memory. Look at JJJ's minutes. He was given plenty of opportunity to produce early on. He had back to back good games against ASU and Fullerton...
And then he disappeared. 11 minutes against GW...no points, no assists, no rebounds. 9 minutes against SDSU...ditto. 10 minutes against UW...no points, two rebounds, one assist. Came back with some decent games against the rest of the soft schedule. Then the conference season. 14 minutes against Creighton...4 points. 14 minutes against Xavier...no points.
I'm sorry but the idea that JJJ didn't play meaningful minutes and get his chance is just false. He didn't do anything with those minutes when he played decent competition. You want Buzz to keep throwing him out there to rack up no stats? He looked completely overwhelmed IMO.
The irony. Thank you for my morning punch line. I believe JJJ, though he didn't put up great numbers as you point out in his limited minutes, was defended everywhere on the floor. Pretty sure we could reference about 20-25 game lines for a few other guys who played 30+ minutes and didn't put up numbers much better than those you referenced JJJ putting up in 14 minutes. Did those guys not look totally overwhelmed? You wanted Buzz to keep throwing those guys out there to rack up no stats, correct? And, those guys were Juniors and a 5th year senior - hardly the future of the program.
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The irony. Thank you for my morning punch line. I believe JJJ, though he didn't put up great numbers as you point out in his limited minutes, was defended everywhere on the floor. Pretty sure we could reference about 20-25 game lines for a few other guys who played 30+ minutes and didn't put up numbers much better than those you referenced JJJ putting up in 14 minutes. Did those guys not look totally overwhelmed? You wanted Buzz to keep throwing those guys out there to rack up no stats, correct? And, those guys were Juniors and a 5th year senior - hardly the future of the program.
I wanted Buzz to play the guys that gave Marquette the best chance to win games last year. And Buzz the GM let down Buzz the coach because he didn't have good options at PG, and his options at 2G were either a former walk on, an overwhelmed freshman, or a returning junior with questionable work habits who was just kicked off the team.
Would have been nice if Jamail Jones would have worked out. Or TJ Taylor. Or if Vander stayed. But none of that happened.
Too many recruiting mistakes that left the team devoid of experienced talent caused last year. That is what I blame Buzz for more than anything.
EDIT: What I am hoping to see primarily out of Wojo is less player movement, even if it means sacrificing on the ranking of incoming recruits a little. I want to see talented players with experience out there. I don't want to rely on the either/or problems that were so evident last year.
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I wanted Buzz to play the guys that gave Marquette the best chance to win games last year. And Buzz the GM let down Buzz the coach because he didn't have good options at PG, and his options at 2G were either a former walk on, an overwhelmed freshman, or a returning junior with questionable work habits who was just kicked off the team.
Would have been nice if Jamail Jones would have worked out. Or TJ Taylor. Or if Vander stayed. But none of that happened.
Too many recruiting mistakes that left the team devoid of experienced talent caused last year. That is what I blame Buzz for more than anything.
Well wasn't it obvious in watching the team early on that the guys he was playing weren't going to give the team much of a chance to win?? I simply don't get how you can criticize JJJ's stat lines, particularly as a freshmen, yet champion upperclassmen and feel they gave us the best chance to win...when they put up numerous games of AWFUL stat lines?
Burton by all accounts has been a high character kid. Same with Dawson. That didn't earn them a whole lot last season, now did it? So, if high character isn't necessarily rewarded among the freshman, but is among the upperclassmen does that not seem inconsistent? Why can an upperclassmen go out game after game after game, and produce so little..yet still get max minutes....and you can't even find 15 minutes a game on a consistent basis for your 5 star shooting guard, 4 star, power forward, and even your 3 star freshman PG?
As for Mayo - there is nothing on the basketball court Jake Thomas did better than Todd Mayo. This isn't 5th grade basketball here. This is high major ball...and you play to win. Why do you think talented guys with checkered pasts far worse than Todd - guys with all kind of legal and drug issues - get chance after chance after chance at the next level? Because they can help a team win. Todd could have helped that team win more basketball games last year. Period. I'm still waiting for you explain why Todd was suspended for the Wisconsin game for being late to practice, yet was late multiple times as you report - and wasn't suspended for those games thereafter?
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woody crush
What is with you and constant reference to penises?
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Boy you have an inferiority complex and low self esteem!
Martyr complex, because the poor guy is so persecuted you know.
Anyway, on topic...my *hope* for JJJ is 7.5 ppg and playing relatively acceptable defense.
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NM...no more beating a dead horse.
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But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
...and heterosexual.
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...and heterosexual.
How bout we leave the politics out huh?
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There is a lot more to the saga of Buzz that should be said. How he treated JJJ, Taylor and Duane, poor decisions, stupidity of playing Derrick 32 plus minutes per game, rotations, and the list goes on. The guy was a douche, and yet several on this board continue to slurp, defend, idolize, and woody crush the guy. But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled.
Yes, please do tell how the white man is being kept down..
Or better yet - let's keep the politics out of the hoops forum!
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Yes, please do tell how the white man is being kept down..
Or better yet - let's keep the politics out of the hoops forum!
You think Willie has a persecution complex? ::)
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As for Mayo - there is nothing on the basketball court Jake Thomas did better than Todd Mayo.
Shoot the three. Which is something our team desperately needed last season
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This isn't 5th grade basketball here. This is high major ball...and you play to win. Why do you think talented guys with checkered pasts far worse than Todd - guys with all kind of legal and drug issues - get chance after chance after chance at the next level? Because they can help a team win. Todd could have helped that team win more basketball games last year. Period.
This is thinking in the short term. Could have playing Mayo more despite whatever his off the court the issue were won us a few more games last season? Probably yes. But doing that destroys any credibility Buzz had left with his players. If Mayo could ignore the coach's direction and still play, what motivation does anyone else have to listen to the coach? So in the long term, playing Mayo could cost us a lot more wins than he would gain.
This is all theoretical. Other than his academic issues, I have no idea what other issues Mayo had. And judging from some of the ominous posts from JSGlow, CBB, and Keefe, there was a lot going on. If Mayo had enough issues to warrant him being shown the door, than he probably had no business being on the court last season, regardless of how many wins it would get us in the short term.
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Shoot the three. Which is something our team desperately needed last season
In the beginning of the season a large minority of people convinced themselves that Jake couldn't shoot against real D-I defenses. Finishing the Big East in the top 10 in threes per game and three point percentage never changed anyone's opinion of him.
Perception is reality in some cases.
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Shoot the three. Which is something our team desperately needed last season
Yes he shot 3's at 39% for the year to Mayo shooting 33.3. One guy shot 172 of them, the other 75. Yet I'd argue a guy who was so limited in everything else on the floor offensively - Jake made exactly 9, 2pt FG's in 32 games - is so poor, it offsets the overall value compared to a guy who is a threat EVERYWHERE, as was Mayo. I mean Todd outscored Jake 340 to 254 for the season and played 240 LESS minutes - which is the equivalent of 6 full games!
But, yes, if you look at just shooting percentage, Jake is a better 3 point shooter than Todd - so it was an overstatement on my part to say there is nothing he does better on a basketball court. Bigger picture, though, is when it is the ONLY thing you can do on the offensive end - there is ZERO reason why you should get 240 more minutes than a guy who can do it all and doubles your points per 40 minutes played.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&p1=jake-thomas
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Yes he shot 3's at 39% for the year to Mayo shooting 33.3. One guy shot 172 of them, the other 75. Yet I'd argue a guy who was so limited in everything else on the floor offensively - Jake made exactly 9, 2pt FG's in 32 games - is so poor, it offsets the overall value compared to a guy who is a threat EVERYWHERE, as was Mayo. I mean Todd outscored Jake 340 to 254 for the season and played 240 LESS minutes - which is the equivalent of 6 full games!
But, yes, if you look at just shooting percentage, Jake is a better 3 point shooter than Todd - so it was an overstatement on my part to say there is nothing he does better on a basketball court. Bigger picture, though, is when it is the ONLY thing you can do on the offensive end - there is ZERO reason why you should get 240 more minutes than a guy who can do it all and doubles your points per 40 minutes played.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&p1=jake-thomas
I agree that Mayo talentwise deserved more minutes than Thomas. My argument last year was that because we were SO bad at three point shooting, that playing Jake was a necessary evil. Mayo (talentwise) deserved more minutes, but I would argue not a Jake's expense. I think we were at our most effective when Jake and Mayo were on the floor together.
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I agree that Mayo talentwise deserved more minutes than Thomas. My argument last year was that because we were SO bad at three point shooting, that playing Jake was a necessary evil. Mayo (talentwise) deserved more minutes, but I would argue not a Jake's expense. I think we were at our most effective when Jake and Mayo were on the floor together.
I can agree with this - I was okay with Todd and Jake playing together too - and felt it could be a potential winning backcourt option, if paired with Dawson. Yet I would have liked to seen JJJ get some minutes. I was a hater of the Derrick and Jake combo more than anything. Jake had some value as he was a good threat from 3. But when you pair him with guys as limited as Derrick and Juan - it further exacerbates his deficiency - ability to score off the bounce and 2's.
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October 11 can't come soon enough.
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In the beginning of the season a large minority of people convinced themselves that Jake couldn't shoot against real D-I defenses. Finishing the Big East in the top 10 in threes per game and three point percentage never changed anyone's opinion of him.
Perception is reality in some cases.
I never had a problem with Thomass three point shooting....it was everything else about his game that hurt us. And im not saying anyone else deserved his minutes...thats why we stunk!
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I never had a problem with Thomass three point shooting....it was everything else about his game that hurt us. And im not saying anyone else deserved his minutes...thats why we stunk!
+1000
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October 11 can't come soon enough.
We are arguing over who should have played more last year....a walk on who lucked his way into a couple scholarships, or a player that the current coach just booted.
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You think Willie has a persecution complex? ::)
He is the most joyless individual I've come across on this or just about any other site. Putting him on ignore has made my Scoop experience more enjoyable, but his joylessness still oozes out when he's quoted by others.
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He is the most joyless individual I've come across on this or just about any other site. Putting him on ignore has made my Scoop experience more enjoyable, but his joylessness still oozes out when he's quoted by others.
That's great MU, but you keep commenting on how you have me on ignore yet providing great analysis on my posts. While you are at it, mention why you have put me on ignore while you are bragging about how all others who do not have an MU degree are worthless. A little bit like an ND grad, eh?
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He is the most joyless individual I've come across on this or just about any other site. Putting him on ignore has made my Scoop experience more enjoyable, but his joylessness still oozes out when he's quoted by others.
I doubt if you have a clue about joy, other than your gloating about all others who do not have an MU degree are not worthy. Why don't you stick to the subject that when you respond to somebody else that "you have come across on a website" means absolutely zilch in the world of meaningful discussion.
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I doubt if you have a clue about joy, other than your gloating about all others who do not have an MU degree are not worthy. Why don't you stick to the subject that when you respond to somebody else that "you have come across on a website" means absolutely zilch in the world of meaningful discussion.
You are the one that took it off topic with your "persecuted white boy" theme.
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Jake will make more money in his pro basketball career than Todd.
How do we make this pop up again in 5 years so we can check?
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Thank you for the Civics lesson, Sherlock. Don't need it from you. I have no perceived disadvantages--maybe you do. You do not like my opinions-fine. But don't lecture unless you can produce your Doctorate in Lectureology.
And I have liked what I have seen from Wojo, a whole lot better than the phony cowboy, who you and a few others go way out of your beaten path to defend at every criticism, just like now. So save the gas--you will have less heartburn. When you stop the slurping, I will stop the call outs.
BTW, thank you for the new signature.
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BTW, thank you for the new signature.
So you just got a Phd., congrats!
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I doubt if you have a clue about joy, other than your gloating about all others who do not have an MU degree are not worthy. Why don't you stick to the subject that when you respond to somebody else that "you have come across on a website" means absolutely zilch in the world of meaningful discussion.
Ok I'm seriously asking: were you actively rooting against us in the NCAA tournament the past 6 years? I mean I agree Buzz was phony anyone who didn't wanna propose on the third date could tell you that. But you act like you didn't want him to win so would you rather not have the 2 s16 and e8 just to show that buzz sucked or are you willing to thank him for that and still say he was a phony?
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You are the one that took it off topic with your "persecuted white boy" theme.
Oh, silly Sultan. You with all of your fancy facts and truths and stuff!
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Ok I'm seriously asking: were you actively rooting against us in the NCAA tournament the past 6 years? I mean I agree Buzz was phony anyone who didn't wanna propose on the third date could tell you that. But you act like you didn't want him to win so would you rather not have the 2 s16 and e8 just to show that buzz sucked or are you willing to thank him for that and still say he was a phony?
Last 6 years? Did you forget about last year--or is that not relevant to you? And I have rooted for the Warriors before you were born. And yes, Buzz is a phony, misleading, stubborn. And you like a few others worship the ground he walks on. But Hey--it is all right. It used to be the good old USA.
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Oh, silly Sultan. You with all of your fancy facts and truths and stuff!
I see it all clearly now. MU 82 and Sultan, full of all the "right facts" clearly and smugly arrogant and righteous. Yes Sir, that is the way we all need to roll. Never question the conventional wisdom, because you will then be slandered and called names, and even better, psychoanalyzed by the pros that are here.
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because you will then be slandered and called names
Says the dude that calls everyone that disagrees with him "slurpers".
You poor persecuted thing.
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I see it all clearly now. MU 82 and Sultan, full of all the "right facts" clearly and smugly arrogant and righteous. Yes Sir, that is the way we all need to roll. Never question the conventional wisdom, because you will then be slandered and called names, and even better, psychoanalyzed by the pros that are here.
It is simply a fact that you took the thread off-topic. You are the one that said the following on Wednesday, July 31 at 6:47 PM. "But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled."
You created this entirely new talking point. And now others get criticized for responding?
And I have an idea willie. Man the f*ck up. Seriously this whole "people are making fun of me" stuff I put in my rear view mirror when I left elementary school. You are like the third grader who calls someone a name, and then runs home to momma when someone calls you something in return.
Well your momma aint here willie. Time to grow a pair.
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Man the f*ck up.
Forgot to put you back on ignore, so when reading this statement from you it made me laugh. When are you going to "man the f*ck up" and apologize for calling people liars when they weren't lying?
Tremendous irony in your statement....maybe start with yourself.
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Last 6 years? Did you forget about last year--or is that not relevant to you? And I have rooted for the Warriors before you were born. And yes, Buzz is a phony, misleading, stubborn. And you like a few others worship the ground he walks on. But Hey--it is all right. It used to be the good old USA.
Meant 5 years my bad. No I don't worship the ground he walks on, he is phony misleading and stubborn (though you calling someone stubborn is pretty ironic). I'm just saying that you give off a persona where you'd prefer us to not have the 2 sweet 16s, the elite 8 or the two other ncaa appearances. You avoided the question I asked though so once again would you actually prefer that we didn't have any of the success as of late?
Does you rooting for them longer make you a better fan in your head? I went to the same MU you did, probably for longer to and at a time where it's a bigger financial strain to commit to a school like MU, thus we both have the exact same reason to root for our alma mater you being old doesn't make you better all of the sudden.
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Forgot to put you back on ignore,
Sure.... ::)
When are you going to "man the f*ck up" and apologize for calling people liars when they weren't lying?
Why would I apologize for being accurate?
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It is simply a fact that you took the thread off-topic. You are the one that said the following on Wednesday, July 31 at 6:47 PM. "But hey, it is America, so everybody is entitled to an opinion, unless you are white, a Christian, pay taxes, and believe in the constitution--then you are not entitled."
You created this entirely new talking point. And now others get criticized for responding?
And I have an idea willie. Man the f*ck up. Seriously this whole "people are making fun of me" stuff I put in my rear view mirror when I left elementary school. You are like the third grader who calls someone a name, and then runs home to momma when someone calls you something in return.
Well your momma aint here willie. Time to grow a pair.
Any time any where Sunspot!
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Oh - good freakin lord! I am sorry that I seemed to have started this pissing contest.
It just really bothers me when I hear about how bad white, middle class, christian, heterosexuals have it today. And for the record- I am all of those things.
But most of all- its just stupid to add those things in a hoops forum. If I wanted bashing of the current regime and all that nonsense, I would read the comments of the ignoramuses on the bottom of MSN political articles.
I come here for a little escapism and some MU hoops!
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This thread is going places.
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