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Title: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: PistolPete on April 02, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Per Twitter:

Nick Noskowiak ‏@NickNoskowiak  7m
My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: frozena pizza on April 02, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
Can't blame him for looking at his options.  Wojo just needs to reassure him and we should have a good shot at getting him back.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2014, 09:25:50 AM
Did he not notice the last name of Wojo?   ;)
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: source? on April 02, 2014, 09:27:19 AM
He's still a couple years out, right? Plenty of time to work on him. Seems like a good kid. I hope he comes here, but I wish him luck wherever he winds up.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 02, 2014, 09:30:03 AM
Good choice to make as a young man. He needs to look out for his own best interests.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 02, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
He's still a couple years out, right? Plenty of time to work on him. Seems like a good kid. I hope he comes here, but I wish him luck wherever he winds up.

Nope. One year out.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Can't blame him for looking at his options.  Wojo just needs to reassure him and we should have a good shot at getting him back.

He is from Sun Prairie, just about 10 min north of Madison.  You can't help but think that the Badger's being in the Final Four has altered his thought process.  Besides, maybe he's not a fit for Wojo's system anyways. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: BCHoopster on April 02, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
He fits Wojo's recruits because he can shoot the 3, but does Wojo want him would be more like it?  Long ways off right now.  Wojo will see him play and decide if he is good enough for what
he is looking for.  Wojo will be like Buzz, tireless worker, but if he looks at his team, he needs some height and strength.  They will have Dawson, Wilson and hopefully Hill moving forward, guards are fine and easy to find anyway.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
Can't blame him for looking at his options.  Wojo just needs to reassure him and we should have a good shot at getting him back.

Maybe Wojo doesn't want him. Two-way street.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: hoops12 on April 02, 2014, 09:51:40 AM
I'm originally from Sun Prairie. Nick is a nice high school player, but if he isn't super excited to come to Marquette, I'm glad he's looking elsewhere. Good luck to him and his family.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: PistolPete on April 02, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
Chris Mack (Xavier) offered him a schollie this morning.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 02, 2014, 10:02:21 AM
I would do the same thing if I were Nick.  Have to think that Wojo will still be on him and now he has a chance to make sure MU is the best fit for him.  Let's all agree not to throw a crap storm if he ends up picking the Badgers like they did with Vander Blue.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: mr.MUskie on April 02, 2014, 10:07:18 AM
Chris Mack (Xavier) offered him a schollie this morning.


Don't we have to release him first?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 02, 2014, 10:08:06 AM

Don't we have to release him first?

He hasn't signed a NLI
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2014, 10:51:14 AM
Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247
Creighton has now offered Nick Noskowiak per @WisBBYearbook bit.ly/Odkrao

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 02, 2014, 10:53:21 AM
Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247
Creighton has now offered Nick Noskowiak per @WisBBYearbook bit.ly/Odkrao



Please anybody but Creighton...I like Nick wish him the best but I really hope he doesnt go there.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 02, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
The knives are out -- Creighton & Xavier....
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
The knives are out -- Creighton & Xavier....

Honestly, if that's MU's competition, I like Wojo's chances of keeping Noskowiak in the fold (assuming that's what Wojo wants).
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Nevada233 on April 02, 2014, 11:02:42 AM
Nick Who????

Maybe Wojo wants to do his own recruiting and not pursue trickle down Buzzard recruits....

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 02, 2014, 11:10:42 AM
Per Twitter:

Nick Noskowiak ‏@NickNoskowiak  7m
My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette

If it was my kid Id tell him to do the exact same thing. Doesn't mean he won't come, just going to explore all options.

Good luck to him and his family. Hope to see him in Blue and Gold.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Eldon on April 02, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
Well if he doesn't stay here, I hope that he at least lands in the BE
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Nevada233 on April 02, 2014, 11:15:21 AM
If it was my kid is tell him to do the exact same thing. Doesn't mean he won't come, just going to explore all options.

Good luck to him and his family. Hope to see him in Blue and Gold.

Right because coming in and competing for PG time the year after next which will feature a Redshirt Soph in Duane (Unless he has a world beater season and goes pro) and a then Junior in Dawson who is showing flashes. May be a tall task for Nick, other opportunities for potential PT may be elsewhere. I said may..... But I hope the best for him...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ronald dragon on April 02, 2014, 11:22:17 AM
Right because coming in and competing for PG time the year after next which will feature a Redshirt Soph in Duane (Unless he has a world beater season and goes pro) and a then Junior in Dawson who is showing flashes. May be a tall task for Nick, other opportunities for potential PT may be elsewhere. I said may..... But I hope the best for him...
I'm hoping that Du. Wilson and Dawson will be able to play a bit of the 2 guard along with PG. Both seem to be able to shoot pretty well (at least in high school Du. Wilson could) and it can't hurt having two player on the floor the the capability to handle the ball like a PG.

That being said I hope to see Nick in Warrior colors.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 02, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
Right because coming in and competing for PG time the year after next which will feature a Redshirt Soph in Duane (Unless he has a world beater season and goes pro) and a then Junior in Dawson who is showing flashes. May be a tall task for Nick, other opportunities for potential PT may be elsewhere. I said may..... But I hope the best for him...

Would have been the same competition if Buzz stayed. Just sayin...

My guess is that if Wojo wants him, he will be here.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 02, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
I'm hoping that Du. Wilson and Dawson will be able to play a bit of the 2 guard along with PG. Bot seem to be able to shoot pretty well and it can't hurt having two player on the floor the the capability to handle the ball like a PG.

That being said I hope to see Nick in Warrior colors.

Eh, at least for this year prefer to see them both play the 1. Maybe transition Duane to the 2 once Mayo graduates but in terms of this year you have Mayo and (hopefully) Jajuan and Hill there.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 02, 2014, 11:26:41 AM
Nick Who????

Maybe Wojo wants to do his own recruiting and not pursue trickle down Buzzard recruits....

Just a thought.

I think Wojo, like Buzz, will want to set up a fence around top 100 prospects from Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: frozena pizza on April 02, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
Do not want to see him at Bucky or anywhere in the BE.  Hope we still get him, unless Wojo pulls Tyus Jones away from Duke of course...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
Do not want to see him at Bucky or anywhere in the BE.  Hope we still get him, unless Wojo pulls Tyus Jones away from Duke of course...
If Wojo loves Duke and is ethical, which I believe he is, I doubt if he will go after any current Duke players or commits.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: BCHoopster on April 02, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
If Wojo loves Duke and is ethical, which I believe he is, I doubt if he will go after any current Duke players or commits.

Would never do that to Coach K, to much respect and he is his mentor.  Now in the future, Coach K can help Wojo with kids and I can see that happening, particularly with kids that have
questionable grades, I am sure MU and Duke take different types of kids.  Or at least Buzz did, maybe that is changing.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: esotericmindguy on April 02, 2014, 11:34:55 AM
If Wojo loves Duke and is ethical, which I believe he is, I doubt if he will go after any current Duke players or commits.

Pretty sure he was joking about Tyus Jones. He does have a younger brother that may be just as good....
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: THRILLHO on April 02, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
Nick Who????

Maybe Wojo wants to do his own recruiting and not pursue trickle down Buzzard recruits....

Just a borderline insane thought.

Ftfy. Kid is a top 50ish recruit. Of course there should be a reassessment in both directions when there is a coaching change, but I certainly hope whatever scheme Wojo wants to run is flexible enough to accommodate a guy that talented in your backyard.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Nevada233 on April 02, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
Eh, at least for this year prefer to see them both play the 1. Maybe transition Duane to the 2 once Mayo graduates but in terms of this year you have Mayo and (hopefully) Jajuan and Hill there.

How Tall is Duane? Hes listed as 6'3.... Thats a generous 6'3.....

When I saw him we was about the same Height and im only 6'0-6'1..
Even if hes 6'3 is that legit height to defend at the position against the 6'6-6'7 SGs...

Just asking...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Nevada233 on April 02, 2014, 11:39:20 AM
Ftfy. Kid is a top 50ish recruit. Of course there should be a reassessment in both directions when there is a coaching change, but I certainly hope whatever scheme Wojo wants to run is flexible enough to accommodate a guy that talented in your backyard.

Hey I said Maybe.....

D.S.T.M = Dont shoot the messenger......

If hes the goods.... Id like to see him here of course!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Litehouse on April 02, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
If Duane really wants to play pro, he needs to play PG.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ronald dragon on April 02, 2014, 11:41:57 AM
How Tall is Duane? Hes listed as 6'3.... Thats a generous 6'3.....

When I saw him we was about the same Height and im only 6'0-6'1..
Even if hes 6'3 is that legit height to defend at the position against the 6'6-6'7 SGs...

Just asking...

I for sure wouldn't want him to only play SG, just in certain small lineup situations. I also feel like that's a tad bit tall for your average SG.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 02, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
How Tall is Duane? Hes listed as 6'3.... Thats a generous 6'3.....

When I saw him we was about the same Height and im only 6'0-6'1..
Even if hes 6'3 is that legit height to defend at the position against the 6'6-6'7 SGs...

Just asking...


I actually think hes close to 6'3". Derrick however, is nowhere close to 6'1" Probably closer to 5'10"
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2014, 11:49:16 AM
How Tall is Duane? Hes listed as 6'3.... Thats a generous 6'3.....

When I saw him we was about the same Height and im only 6'0-6'1..
Even if hes 6'3 is that legit height to defend at the position against the 6'6-6'7 SGs...

Just asking...


Not many of 6'6"/6'7" guards in college basketball.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Nevada233 on April 02, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
I for sure wouldn't want him to only play SG, just in certain small lineup situations. I also feel like that's a tad bit tall for your average SG.

Your right..... But he may grow a couple inches also...

Lets say 6'4-6'6

Like Kobe, Wade, Harden etc..... Height

Excited to see the development!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Mobot on April 02, 2014, 12:13:38 PM
I happened to be walking behind him at the airport two years ago and I would say he is at least 6'2, maybe 6'3.  I am 6'4 and he didn't seem much shorter than me.

And he certainly could guard a 6-6 or 6-7 shooting guard.  Quickness trumpfs height on the perimeter.  Strength is more important when guarding the post.  The biggest concern would be a player that can hit a fade away jumper.  But in college basketball, a fade away jumper is a shot that you are willing to give up as opposed to wide open 3's, free throws, lay ups.

I think it's pretty obvious after this year that guard play is of utmost importance in college basketball.  We had an excellent front court and we couldn't even make the tournament.

We can definitely have success starting 4 really good switchables under 6'5".  Haven't heard that term in awhile.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Logi4three on April 02, 2014, 12:15:02 PM
Here is an article with more quotes from Noskowiak.  Some positives in there including that he likes Wojo and the fact he played his position in college and that their initial call went well. He just wants to know Wojo wants him and wants Wojo to see him play.  

http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-marquette-commit-nick-noskowiak-re-opens-recruitment/article_035f9f26-ba7e-11e3-b3b6-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: frozena pizza on April 02, 2014, 12:20:17 PM
Pretty sure he was joking about Tyus Jones. He does have a younger brother that may be just as good....

Yes, thank you.  Every once in a while I think it's not necessary to use teal...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: keefe on April 02, 2014, 04:03:54 PM
I'm originally from Sun Prairie.

How on earth could anyplace in Wisconsin be called Sun?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
How on earth could anyplace in Wisconsin be called Sun?
C'mon Keefe. After all it is Wisconsun
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: breadtree on April 02, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
Current thinking is that Wisconsin won't pursue Noskowiak because the focus is on Jarvis Johnson.  Could change, but fyi
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: keefe on April 02, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
some stay others go
christopherson or diener
we may never know
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: We R Final Four on April 02, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
So is this the encore haiku?

I think there is another thread title "One last haiku", but you cant stop can you?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: keefe on April 02, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
So is this the encore haiku?

I think there is another thread title "One last haiku", but you cant stop can you?

Coaching Search Edition, v8.2
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: We R Final Four on April 02, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 02, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
How on earth could anyplace in Wisconsin be called Sun?


  it is spelled Sun Prayer-ie
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 02, 2014, 06:51:32 PM

Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3m
Illinois coach John Groce has extended a scholarship offer to Sun Prairie junior Nick Noskowiak.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 02, 2014, 07:00:04 PM
Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3m
Illinois coach John Groce has extended a scholarship offer to Sun Prairie junior Nick Noskowiak.

I like Groce, but it will be very, very, difficult to win at Illinois.  There's simply too many teams to compete with to build a consistent winner.  Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin were all in Elite Eight this year.  Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio State and Northwestern are all improving.  Indiana won't stay down for long, and neither will Purdue.  Maryland will bring some tough competition next year.  Rutgers and Penn State have traditionally been doormats.

But, hey, if he wants to go there, best of luck to him!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: keefe on April 02, 2014, 07:05:18 PM
Indiana won't stay down for long

The Bronzed Beast is getting Buzzed?????

SOURCE??
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: source? on April 02, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
What?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Warrior Code on April 02, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Haha perfect timing.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 03, 2014, 12:21:48 AM
some stay others go
christopherson or diener
we may never know


Technically, the second line should be

Diener or Christopherson


;p
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 12:30:12 AM
some stay others go
christopherson or diener
we may never know


White flight is common
Much More talent to the south
Mad Memorial
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Scooter22 on April 03, 2014, 02:29:04 AM
Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3m
Illinois coach John Groce has extended a scholarship offer to Sun Prairie junior Nick Noskowiak.

I hate to say this as a UofI (graduate) alum, but isn't this the same school that had coaches hanging out in a bar at PSU post-scandal? 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: seakm4 on April 03, 2014, 04:42:32 AM
I wish him the best in his recruitment, and hope he comes back, but if he doesn't he at least knows Marquette is still the "cool school" in this state
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Texas Western on April 03, 2014, 09:37:17 AM
I am delighted he is opening up the recruitment. I was never sold on him as a high D-1 player. The way I look at it we get a second pair of eyes to review his game . If he is still somebody we want and he signs then great I not then we got lucky.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 09:45:50 AM
Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3m
Illinois coach John Groce has extended a scholarship offer to Sun Prairie junior Nick Noskowiak.

What has Groce done at Illinois?  Are they really any better than Weber?

Looks like more of the same mediocre basketball to me.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2014, 09:54:49 AM
What has Groce done at Illinois?  Are they really any better than Weber?

Looks like more of the same mediocre basketball to me.

Illinois looks like it will be the pits of the B10 for a few years to come. Maybe a top 6 finish here or there, but I expect more bottom 4 finishes than top half finishes over the next 5 year period.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
What has Groce done at Illinois?  Are they really any better than Weber?

Looks like more of the same mediocre basketball to me.

He's been there 2 years only
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 10:00:58 AM
He's been there 2 years only

And he's whiffed on some recruits and Cliff Alexander openly mocked them with the hat switch at his announcement.

Again, Illinois fired Weber and found a guy that is doing more of the same.  Had they kept Weber the last two years, they would be exactly the same as now.

The only positive is Groce probably costs less than Weber.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Illinois looks like it will be the pits of the B10 for a few years to come. Maybe a top 6 finish here or there, but I expect more bottom 4 finishes than top half finishes over the next 5 year period.

I doubt it. Bottom four means Illini  consistently < Rutgers, Purdue, Northwestern, Penn State, Nebraska, Minnesota.

Despite his inability to land top talent out of Chicago -largely the bane of every Illini coach since Lou, with a few exceptions for Self - Groce has done a respectable job.
His 2013 class was ranked in the top 15-20 by most services. This year's class isn't ranked very high because it's small, but it does include a solid top 50 kid (Leron Black).
The Illini will be fine.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 10:07:22 AM
And he's whiffed on some recruits and Cliff Alexander openly mocked them with the hat switch at his announcement.

Again, Illinois fired Weber and found a guy that is doing more of the same.  Had they kept Weber the last two years, they would be exactly the same as now.

The only positive is Groce probably costs less than Weber.

You're thinking like an Illini fan, i.e. Illinois is a massive failure when  it doesn't land every top kid from Chicago.
Reality is, Illinois never landed every top kid from Chicago. The closest to do that was the Lou Doo, and that was because certain CPS coaches were in his pocket.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Aughnanure on April 03, 2014, 10:09:41 AM
I like Groce, but it will be very, very, difficult to win at Illinois.  There's simply too many teams to compete with to build a consistent winner.  Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin were all in Elite Eight this year.  Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio State and Northwestern are all improving.  Indiana won't stay down for long, and neither will Purdue.  Maryland will bring some tough competition next year.  Rutgers and Penn State have traditionally been doormats.

But, hey, if he wants to go there, best of luck to him!

The problem with this line of thinking is that all good teams, and improving teams, will continue in perpetuity. Minnesota and Nebraska are eventually going to get buried, or their coaches will leave, etc.

And seriously, how does Northwestern always get mentioned? Stop it. No school with less success has ever been as hyped for breakout success as Northwestern has.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 10:13:58 AM
And seriously, how does Northwestern always get mentioned? Stop it. No school with less success has been hyped for breakout success as Northwestern has.
Yes. Collins has done a nice job so far, but his "success" is largely a result of topping such low expectations for the program.
People went apesh*t because they landed Victor Law, a four-star, lower top 100 kid - and that's a great get for them - but that's the kind of kid Groce has already landed with some regularity at Illinois.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Aughnanure on April 03, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
Yes. Collins has done a nice job so far, but his "success" is largely a result of topping such low expectations for the program.
People went apesh*t because they landed Victor Law, a four-star, lower top 100 kid - and that's a great get for them - but that's the kind of kid Groce has already landed with some regularity at Illinois.

They also did this love-fest for them even before Collins. I swear every year ESPN had some story about how THIS was the year for Northwestern.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
I doubt it. Bottom four means Illini  consistently < Rutgers, Purdue, Northwestern, Penn State, Nebraska, Minnesota.

Despite his inability to land top talent out of Chicago -largely the bane of every Illini coach since Lou, with a few exceptions for Self - Groce has done a respectable job.
His 2013 class was ranked in the top 15-20 by most services. This year's class isn't ranked very high because it's small, but it does include a solid top 50 kid (Leron Black).
The Illini will be fine.

Stop belittling me with facts! Let my blind dislike for UI cloud my judgement!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 10:44:57 AM
You're thinking like an Illini fan, i.e. Illinois is a massive failure when  it doesn't land every top kid from Chicago.
Reality is, Illinois never landed every top kid from Chicago. The closest to do that was the Lou Doo, and that was because certain CPS coaches were in his pocket.

In Groce's case the benchmark is if Weber stayed, and the Benchmark continues with Weber at KSU.

Illinois fired Weber because they were unhappy with his results.  Will Illinois be "fine" with Groce?  Sure, and they would have been "fine" with Weber too.

Groce is Weber2.0, not better, not worse.  Groce is more of the same which makes you wonder why they fired Weber only to get Groce.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
In Groce's case the benchmark is if Weber stayed, and the Benchmark continues with Weber at KSU.

Illinois fired Weber because they were unhappy with his results.  Will Illinois be "fine" with Groce?  Sure, and they would have been "fine" with Weber too.

Groce is Weber2.0, not better, not worse.  Groce is more of the same which makes you wonder why they fired Weber only to get Groce.

Cuz they thought Shaka was a #donedeal
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 03, 2014, 10:50:53 AM
Illinois will be fine. Big time school. Give it a couple years and they will be back in the sweet 16. Next year they have a good squad with impact transfers that had to red shirt this past year and Abrams, Egwu and Rice are all coming back. Plus Nunn and Tate have a year under their belt now.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
And he's whiffed on some recruits and Cliff Alexander openly mocked them with the hat switch at his announcement.

Again, Illinois fired Weber and found a guy that is doing more of the same.  Had they kept Weber the last two years, they would be exactly the same as now.

The only positive is Groce probably costs less than Weber.

That may be the case on his ability, but I'll judge after he gets his own guys in there to fully matriculate, that's only fair.  They had a top 20 class in 2013.  Let's see how it plays out.

As far as Alexander goes, I don't think he was there to mock Illinois.  He was trying to be funny and clever.  If he wanted to mock UI he could have done it from the start and said no way in hell am I going to Illinois.  Why make it look like they were his second choice and Illinois was good enough that the only school that beat them out was Kansas?

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
Illinois will be fine. Big time school. Give it a couple years and they will be back in the sweet 16. Next year they have a good squad with impact transfers that had to red shirt this past year and Abrams, Egwu and Rice are all coming back. Plus Nunn and Tate have a year under their belt now.

Not to be a broken record .... all of this could have been down under Weber.  Firing Weber and hiring Groce changed nothing.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
He's been there 2 years only


You're right, way too early to judge.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 03, 2014, 12:18:18 PM

You're right, way too early to judge.

Groce seems like he's better on the recruiting trail.  He's trending upward with his top 100 recruit he stole from Cuonzo Martin.  I don't recall Weber ever recruiting a top 100 guy, recently.  Nonetheless, he is a custard phenom and for that, I will always love him.  Wisconsin's Own. 

(http://static.news-gazette.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/photogallery_full/images/2012/03/09/Weberfinale15.JPG)
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 12:18:37 PM
Not to be a broken record .... all of this could have been down under Weber.  Firing Weber and hiring Groce changed nothing.

It changed a ton.
That program was in a malaise. The players didn't want to play for Weber. Kids were quitting the program. The fans and students had turned on him. Donors were withholding money.
Bruce had to go.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
It changed a ton.
That program was in a malaise. The players didn't want to play for Weber. Kids were quitting the program. The fans and students had turned on him. Donors were withholding money.
Bruce had to go.

Agreed ... but they replaced him with Weber2.0
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 12:29:32 PM
Agreed ... but they replaced him with Weber2.0

Groce is nothing like Weber, and it's way too soon to judge the results.
Last year was the Illini's best season in quite a while, with winning the Maui Invitational, 14-0 start, win over #1 Indiana, etc.
This year they took an expected step back after losing their top two players from the previous season and three starters in all. Barring transfers, they'll lose only one player off this year's roster and should be improved next year.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 03, 2014, 01:14:13 PM
Groce is nothing like Weber, and it's way too soon to judge the results.
Last year was the Illini's best season in quite a while, with winning the Maui Invitational, 14-0 start, win over #1 Indiana, etc.
This year they took an expected step back after losing their top two players from the previous season and three starters in all. Barring transfers, they'll lose only one player off this year's roster and should be improved next year.

Yup, losing Paul, Richardson and Griffey was a tough blow.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 05, 2014, 08:28:31 AM
Here is an article with more quotes from Noskowiak.  Some positives in there including that he likes Wojo and the fact he played his position in college and that their initial call went well. He just wants to know Wojo wants him and wants Wojo to see him play.  

http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-marquette-commit-nick-noskowiak-re-opens-recruitment/article_035f9f26-ba7e-11e3-b3b6-001a4bcf887a.html


Sounds like all is not lost with Nick ....


SUN PRAIRIE — A phone conversation with new Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski only reaffirmed what Sun Prairie point guard Nick Noskowiak had heard about him.

Noskowiak, who committed to Marquette last April, loves that Wojciechowski played the same position as him, and that he gives point guards more freedom than most.

It also helps that Wojciechowski spent years learning from legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski, and that he’s helped a number of players on their way to the NBA.

Still, Noskowiak’s college decision may come down to how badly Wojciechowski wants Noskowiak, not the other way around.

Noskowiak opened up his recruitment after last night’s conversation with Wojciechowski, and it took less than 24 hours for him to receive an offer from Xavier.

“(Wojciechowski) has never seen me play, so I’d like him to be interested in me, and I’d be really excited if he would like to recruit me,” Noskowiak said. “I fell in love with Marquette when Buzz Williams was there, last April. So I kind of just felt like I had to start over, start the recruiting process over.”


Noskowiak averaged 20 points per game for the Cardinals last season and earned honorable mention AP All-State honors.

Since Xavier offered Noskowiak, he’s also received an offer from Creighton. Before he committed to Marquette last year, he also had offers from Iowa State and Northern Iowa, among others.

With another high school basketball season ahead of him, the junior still has ample time to make a final decision.

Noskowiak said the relationship he builds with the coaching staff is the No. 1 thing he values when selecting a college.

If that’s the case, Wojciechowski is off to a good start.

“I really like him,” Noskowiak said. “(I like) everything I’ve heard about him. I like the direction that he’s going to put Marquette in.”
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 05, 2014, 08:37:28 AM
I don't think we want a kid who can't even make Fourth Team All-State.  Obviously the recruiting gurus of Wisconsin prep sports reporters know something Buzz didn't.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: noblewarrior on April 05, 2014, 08:40:06 AM
I don't think we want a kid who can't even make Fourth Team All-State.  Obviously the recruiting gurus of Wisconsin prep sports reporters know something Buzz didn't.

The gurus felt Deonte was only worthy of second team honors his senior year... that was a joke.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 05, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
I don't think we want a kid who can't even make Fourth Team All-State.  Obviously the recruiting gurus of Wisconsin prep sports reporters know something Buzz didn't.

All-state means little, especially for a junior.
Honestly, though I think rankings/stars are overrated, I'd take the opinion of the guys at ESPN, Rivals, 24/7, etc., over the high school beat writers in Tomah, LaCrosse and Peshtigo.

The national recruiting gurus have Noskowiak as a consensus top 60ish player.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 09:38:44 AM
Wojo's pimp hand gets stronger by the day.  This is like telling one of the hot cheerleaders to go and take a hike, because you have one of several prom queens from the area lined up as your date.  I like where this is leading ....
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 05, 2014, 09:58:43 AM
All-state means little, especially for a junior.
Honestly, though I think rankings/stars are overrated, I'd take the opinion of the guys at ESPN, Rivals, 24/7, etc., over the high school beat writers in Tomah, LaCrosse and Peshtigo.

The national recruiting gurus have Noskowiak as a consensus top 60ish player.

I was being facetious...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MU82 on April 05, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
I've never seen Noskowiak, so I don't know how good he is. But if he really got offered by Iowa State, that means Hoiberg thinks he can play Big 12 hoops. And that's a pretty good endorsement.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Agreed ... but they replaced him with Weber2.0

Based on what?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: wadesworld on April 05, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
I've never seen Noskowiak, so I don't know how good he is. But if he really got offered by Iowa State, that means Hoiberg thinks he can play Big 12 hoops. And that's a pretty good endorsement.

http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Noskowiak-23497

He's ranked in the top 50 in the composite rankings.  Rankings don't guarantee future success, but if you're ranked in the top 50 when your junior year is wrapping up then you're a pretty good player.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Texas Western on April 05, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
Sounds like all is not lost with Nick ....


SUN PRAIRIE — A phone conversation with new Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski only reaffirmed what Sun Prairie point guard Nick Noskowiak had heard about him.

Noskowiak, who committed to Marquette last April, loves that Wojciechowski played the same position as him, and that he gives point guards more freedom than most.

It also helps that Wojciechowski spent years learning from legendary coach Mike Krzyzewski, and that he’s helped a number of players on their way to the NBA.

Still, Noskowiak’s college decision may come down to how badly Wojciechowski wants Noskowiak, not the other way around.

Noskowiak opened up his recruitment after last night’s conversation with Wojciechowski, and it took less than 24 hours for him to receive an offer from Xavier.

“(Wojciechowski) has never seen me play, so I’d like him to be interested in me, and I’d be really excited if he would like to recruit me,” Noskowiak said. “I fell in love with Marquette when Buzz Williams was there, last April. So I kind of just felt like I had to start over, start the recruiting process over.”


Noskowiak averaged 20 points per game for the Cardinals last season and earned honorable mention AP All-State honors.

Since Xavier offered Noskowiak, he’s also received an offer from Creighton. Before he committed to Marquette last year, he also had offers from Iowa State and Northern Iowa, among others.

With another high school basketball season ahead of him, the junior still has ample time to make a final decision.

Noskowiak said the relationship he builds with the coaching staff is the No. 1 thing he values when selecting a college.

If that’s the case, Wojciechowski is off to a good start.

“I really like him,” Noskowiak said. “(I like) everything I’ve heard about him. I like the direction that he’s going to put Marquette in.”
This is a good approach for both parties. I have never been sold on Noskowiak with the guards we have ahead of him currently and in 2014 I think it was a wasted scholarship.  We get another chance to evaluate him and if he chooses us, he knows he is coming to someplace that truly wants him .
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: wadesworld on April 05, 2014, 10:54:18 PM
This is a good approach for both parties. I have never been sold on Noskowiak with the guards we have ahead of him currently and in 2014 I think it was a wasted scholarship.  We get another chance to evaluate him and if he chooses us, he knows he is coming to someplace that truly wants him .

The kid is ranked higher than any of our guards in those 2 classes.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 05, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Nick can flat out play. Any school would be lucky to have him. Hopefully it's Marquette.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 01:12:25 AM
Nick can flat out play. Any school would be lucky to have him. Hopefully it's Marquette.


+1. Hope he decides to still attend MU.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: AZMarqfan on April 06, 2014, 02:08:56 AM
given that MU currently has 2 PG and 3 SG that will be here for the next 3-4 years, It makes sense for him to open up his recruitment.  Marquette has become overstocked at some positions.  Unless he's planning on redshirting for a year, he likely won't get much PT till his jr year. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:10:25 AM
given that MU currently has 2 PG and 3 SG that will be here for the next 3-4 years, It makes sense for him to open up his recruitment.  Marquette has become overstocked at some positions.  Unless he's planning on redshirting for a year, he likely won't get much PT till his jr year. 

Are you counting D.Wilson as a PG?  He's really an undersized center. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: savwa on April 06, 2014, 09:01:48 AM
Weber did start bringing highly ranked recruits his last 3yrs or so but lost control of the reins with some of them and they gave a black eye to the school. Here's an example - http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=2772512&src=desktop
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 06, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
I think Noskowiak still finds his way here. And I'm glad. He looks like a helluva player
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
I think Noskowiak still finds his way here. And I'm glad. He looks like a helluva player

Overrated

He shoots extremely well, but he lacks the quickness to create his own shot in the college game.  Defensively, I've yet to see much.  He's not very athletic.  I'm thinking he's a Ben Brust/Josh Gasser type for whatever that is worth.  He'd be an asset on a team as a nice rotational guy/ guy for 3 point situations.  what's interesting is that I've never seen Buzz recruit anyone like him before.  All of the 2 guards we have had, were more athletic and longer.  He has talent, don't get me wrong, but I don't think a Brust/Gasser type is top 60 talent. 

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
Overrated

He shoots extremely well, but he lacks the quickness to create his own shot in the college game.  Defensively, I've yet to see much.  He's not very athletic.  I'm thinking he's a Ben Brust/Josh Gasser type for whatever that is worth.  He'd be an asset on a team as a nice rotational guy/ guy for 3 point situations.  what's interesting is that I've never seen Buzz recruit anyone like him before.  All of the 2 guards we have had, were more athletic and longer.  He has talent, don't get me wrong, but I don't think a Brust/Gasser type is top 60 talent. 



Same was said about Scott Christopherson who ended up making All Big 12 his junior and senior years. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Overrated

He shoots extremely well, but he lacks the quickness to create his own shot in the college game.  Defensively, I've yet to see much.  He's not very athletic.  I'm thinking he's a Ben Brust/Josh Gasser type for whatever that is worth.  He'd be an asset on a team as a nice rotational guy/ guy for 3 point situations.  what's interesting is that I've never seen Buzz recruit anyone like him before.  All of the 2 guards we have had, were more athletic and longer.  He has talent, don't get me wrong, but I don't think a Brust/Gasser type is top 60 talent. 



Just maybe the last AD and president wanted Buzz to recruit a different type of player,  like a white, high school kid.  Nothing against the Flory kid, but seriously offering a 9th grader a scholarship, crazy.  
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Texas Western on April 06, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Just maybe the last AD and president wanted Buzz to recruit a different type of player,  like a white, high school kid.  Nothing against the Flory kid, but seriously offering a 9th grader a scholarship, crazy.  
When Noskowiak was first announced my first thought was as you have portrayed a semi politically correct decision. I think on a certain level Noskowiaks family understands that and that is why they want to make sure their is mutual desire . I agree with the analysis of his skills by Mike Deane
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 10:57:50 AM
When Noskowiak was first announced my first thought was as you have portrayed a semi politically correct decision. I think on a certain level Noskowiaks family understands that and that is why they want to make sure their is mutual desire . I agree with the analysis of his skills by Mike Deane

He's a top 100 player for crying out loud.

How did your Kentucky over Wisconsin by 20+ points go.....seems you don't understand how good some kids and teams are.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: GB Warrior on April 06, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
I'd be ok with finding a player to fill the Ben Brust role...

Everything that has come out on Nick within the state has been glowing. Marquette will be thrilled if he ends up coming.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 06, 2014, 11:01:07 AM
Same was said about Scott Christopherson who ended up making honorable mention All Big 12 his junior year and third-team his senior year, by which time he'd have used up his eligibility at Marquette. 

FTFY.
Nothing against SC, but he wasn't a fit for what Brent was doing, and wasn't going to get the kind of minutes at MU he got at ISU. Good college player, but why you continue to harp on this six years after the fact is beyond me. He chose to leave MU because he knew he'd be a role player there.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
You didn't fix anything, if you make honorable mention, third team, 2nd team, or whatever, you are considered all conference.  That's how it works.

I realize he wasn't a fit for what Brent is doing, which is why Brent asks really dumb questions like "why can't my team shoot".

Brent values different things. I don't blame SC for transferring at all.  I'm hopeful that Wojo believes in a scheme where shooters are valuable and point guards critical.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
You didn't fix anything, if you make honorable mention, third team, 2nd team, or whatever, you are considered all conference.  That's how it works.

I realize he wasn't a fit for what Brent is doing, which is why Brent asks really dumb questions like "why can't my team shoot".

Brent values different things. I don't blame SC for transferring at all.  I'm hopeful that Wojo believes in a scheme where shooters are valuable and point guards critical.

Well, Wojo is preaching defense first.  Show me a Nick Noskwiak highlight tape that has a plethora of steals against lesser high school competition.   ..... It doesn't exist which is not a good sign for a top 60 player. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 11:08:22 AM
Bottom line, a good high school kid in the top 100 should be recruited by MU and Wisconsin, as hard as possible.  Both schools need to keep the best players from leaving.  I am not happy with
Tokoto's decision to go to NC and for sure Looney to UCLA.  I do not think kids understand that if you come back to the state, the chances of getting a good job are pretty solid if they stayed
in the state.  Something called alumni.  They all have the NBA dream, but maybe 30 kids a year get a chance, better chance of becoming a doctor.
 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 11:09:34 AM
Well, Wojo is preaching defense first.  Show me a Nick Noskwiak highlight tape that has a plethora of steals against lesser high school competition.   ..... It doesn't exist which is not a good sign for a top 60 player. 

Lots of kids in high school don't know how to play defense, it is one of the areas coaches have to teach upon coming to the college ranks.  Our freshmen this year struggled defensively.  This is nothing new IMO.

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 06, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
Well, Wojo is preaching defense first.  Show me a Nick Noskwiak highlight tape that has a plethora of steals against lesser high school competition.   ..... It doesn't exist which is not a good sign for a top 60 player. 

Show me a highlight video of  Jerel McNeal in high school making a plethora of steals.
What, you can't find one? Apparently the guy couldn't play defense.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:17:46 AM
Show me a highlight video of  Jerel McNeal in high school making a plethora of steals.
What, you can't find one? Apparently the guy couldn't play defense.

I'm not saying he can't play defense.  I'm being skeptical because I don't see the quickness or length on him that would make a person a defensive threat.  Show me some video where he's making some great defensive plays.  That's all I want to see, so I can further my evaluation. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 11:19:38 AM
I'm not saying he can't play defense.  I'm being skeptical because I don't see the quickness or length on him that would make a person a defensive threat.  Show me some video where he's making some great defensive plays.  That's all I want to see, so I can further my evaluation. 


By the very nature of these ridiculous videos that are out there, they focus on offense unless you are a shot blocker.  It's what is sexy.  I don't think you are going to find a lot of stuff out there on kids taking charges, moving their feet properly, etc.  It just doesn't fit with most of these silly videos and mix tapes.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Pakuni on April 06, 2014, 11:21:57 AM
You didn't fix anything, if you make honorable mention, third team, 2nd team, or whatever, you are considered all conference.  That's how it works.

Yes, Chico's, there's a big difference between being first team all conference and honorable mention. One means you're among the top 5 players in the league. The other means you're somewhere between 16th and 29th.
By simply stating he made "all-conference" - without noting that it was honorable mention one year and third team the next - you were giving a false impression.
And, frankly, what Christopherson did his senior year at ISU is irrelevant to a discussion about Marquette because he'd have used up his eligibility by then.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:36:29 AM

By the very nature of these ridiculous videos that are out there, they focus on offense unless you are a shot blocker.  It's what is sexy.  I don't think you are going to find a lot of stuff out there on kids taking charges, moving their feet properly, etc.  It just doesn't fit with most of these silly videos and mix tapes.

I'm quite aware that the majority of mixtapes display offense.  Nonetheless, there should be tape of any of the high school games played this year @ Sun Prairie.  That is a good starting place.  AAU should have some tape as well, although, I'm sure that's sold to coaches being the money generator that it is. 
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Texas Western on April 06, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
He's a top 100 player for crying out loud.

How did your Kentucky over Wisconsin by 20+ points go.....seems you don't understand how good some kids and teams are.
I was off by 19 :)
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
Yes, Chico's, there's a big difference between being first team all conference and honorable mention. One means you're among the top 5 players in the league. The other means you're somewhere between 16th and 29th.
By simply stating he made "all-conference" - without noting that it was honorable mention one year and third team the next - you were giving a false impression.
And, frankly, what Christopherson did his senior year at ISU is irrelevant to a discussion about Marquette because he'd have used up his eligibility by then.

I didn't say there wasn't a difference.  I said he was all conference Big 12....which was an accurate statement.  You added more information, great.  Nothing I said was incorrect.  Each conference lists the ALL CONFERENCE players, for which SC was ALL CONFERENCE his junior and senior year.  That is the standard protocol by conferences

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205391642

What SC did his senior year at Iowa State could have been done a year earlier at MU, which would have been his senior year.  It's not irrelevant as the extra year was a result of the transfer...he still had a senior year which he was going to have somewhere.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 11:46:31 AM
Overrated

He shoots extremely well, but he lacks the quickness to create his own shot in the college game.  Defensively, I've yet to see much.  He's not very athletic.  I'm thinking he's a Ben Brust/Josh Gasser type for whatever that is worth.  He'd be an asset on a team as a nice rotational guy/ guy for 3 point situations.  what's interesting is that I've never seen Buzz recruit anyone like him before.  All of the 2 guards we have had, were more athletic and longer.  He has talent, don't get me wrong, but I don't think a Brust/Gasser type is top 60 talent. 




How many times have you seen Nick play?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:51:11 AM

How many times have you seen Nick play?


5
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MU Buff on April 06, 2014, 01:53:29 PM
I've seen Noskowiak play a few times and I think anyone who says he isn't good enough for Marquette is nuts! He has great court vision and a great shot. I agree that his biggest weakness is speed/quickness but i think his basketball skills more than make up for it. I think his defense is average at worst. I've also seen Cohen play and Noskowiak's defense is better. Cohen just wanders around trying to get blocks from what I saw.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 01:56:37 PM
I've seen Noskowiak play a few times and I think anyone who says he isn't good enough for Marquette is nuts! He has great court vision and a great shot. I agree that his biggest weakness is speed/quickness but i think his basketball skills more than make up for it. I think his defense is average at worst. I've also seen Cohen play and Noskowiak's defense is better. Cohen just wanders around trying to get blocks from what I saw.

I agree with everything you said here. And so do the national experts who have seen both play against the top players in the country.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Yes, Chico's, there's a big difference between being first team all conference and honorable mention. One means you're among the top 5 players in the league. The other means you're somewhere between 16th and 29th.
By simply stating he made "all-conference" - without noting that it was honorable mention one year and third team the next - you were giving a false impression.
And, frankly, what Christopherson did his senior year at ISU is irrelevant to a discussion about Marquette because he'd have used up his eligibility by then.

+1. Technically true but misleading and essentially false statements are one of the bondsman's specialities.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:20:05 PM
+1. Technically true but misleading and essentially false statements are one of the bondsman's specialities.

LOL

Technically true and 100% true and you find an issue with the truth, not a surprise.  I said he made all-conference.  He did.  Not misleading, not false, nothing.  100% truth.

So, did you look up what you said about crap shoot a few years ago and 2nd grades.....want to get into truths?

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2014, 02:43:58 PM
LOL

Technically true and 100% true and you find an issue with the truth, not a surprise.  I said he made all-conference.  He did.  Not misleading, not false, nothing.  100% truth.

So, did you look up what you said about crap shoot a few years ago and 2nd grades.....want to get into truths?



In your world, a guy who takes one online class at a university is an alum, guys who have never played in the NBA are NBA players and people with multiple personalities have two - and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Suggesting that Pakuni brought welcome additional information to your intentionally misleading post is total BS, but it's how you roll. That's no mystery to most here.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 06, 2014, 03:11:14 PM
I was off by 19 :)

That a whole half game by Wisconsin standards.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Eldon on April 06, 2014, 03:12:17 PM
Show me a highlight video of  Jerel McNeal in high school making a plethora of steals.
What, you can't find one? Apparently the guy couldn't play defense.

Other than Dikembe Mutombo, does anyone have an all defensive highlight reel?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Other than Dikembe Mutombo, does anyone have an all defensive highlight reel?

Derrick Wilson.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 03:28:24 PM
Other than Dikembe Mutombo, does anyone have an all defensive highlight reel?

Josh Gasser does.  It was on Aaron Harrison's ipad before the game last night. 

#exposed

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Josh+Gasser+Aaron+Harrison+NCAA+Men+Final+TkT9oI5oHuTl.jpg)
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
In your world, a guy who takes one online class at a university is an alum, guys who have never played in the NBA are NBA players and people with multiple personalities have two - and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Suggesting that Pakuni brought welcome additional information to your intentionally misleading post is total BS, but it's how you roll. That's no mystery to most here.

In my world I use real definitions.

An alum is defined by the organization that sets the criteria.  Dick Cheney is an alum of UW-madison, even though he never graduated from there.  Tom Snyder is an alum of Marquette, even though he didn't graduate from there.  You don't like the definition because it doesn't mesh with what you thought it was, too bad.  You're wrong, deal with it.

I made a statement about SC.  It was 100% accurate.  If Pakuni wants to add to it, great...which I said to him...great.  Doesn't impact one thing I said...he was an all conference player in the Big 12.  Now, I realize he was recruited by your second favorite coach and dumped by your favoritist coach and BFF, so that doesn't square with you, but facts are facts here Lenny.  You are left devoid of them.

Now, should we talk about how even 2nd graders know about crap shoots (your words) yet you had something very different to say not all that long ago?  Can you produce that 2nd grade report card that shows you got through?   ;)

On a more important point Lenny, ever wonder why MU didn't want to keep Buzz around even after he won the war to get Larry ousted?  Why is that Lenny?  Why did your favorist BFF ever "decide" to go to Va. Tech, a program that has two NCAA appearances in the last 30 years for less money?  I wonder why that is........



Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
Chicos,

I feel to accurately understand the rift between MU and Buzz, it's important to recognize the personality that is Buzz Williams.  I believe in his own myopic view of his world he believes he was doing what was right for the program and the kids he recruited even if it was exactly the opposite of what the university wanted.  In his mind, taking chances on kids with previous transgressions was an opportunity for him to alter their trajectory in life for the better.  I think he's that big of a narcissist.  It was a win win for him in the sense that if he took a flyer on a troubled kid and turned him around he validates himself and if the kid continues with his troubles he's justified for trying while holding the kid responsible.  He only gets the credit and none of the blame.

Now Marquette may have had issues with this and in Buzz's mind it was preventing him from what he felt was him doing good.

I know people like this.  You probably do to.  I think it's spot on with regards to how he operates.

MU could be 100% justified in all of this but there's no doubt in my mind that Buzz feels 100% justified in his decisions and views the university as the real problem.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Chicos,

I feel to accurately understand the rift between MU and Buzz, it's important to recognize the personality that is Buzz Williams.  I believe in his own myopic view of his world he believes he was doing what was right for the program and the kids he recruited even if it was exactly the opposite of what the university wanted.  In his mind, taking chances on kids with previous transgressions was an opportunity for him to alter their trajectory in life for the better.  I think he's that big of a narcissist.  It was a win win for him in the sense that if he took a flyer on a troubled kid and turned him around he validates himself and if the kid continues with his troubles he's justified for trying while holding the kid responsible.  He only gets the credit and none of the blame.

Now Marquette may have had issues with this and in Buzz's mind it was preventing him from what he felt was him doing good.

I know people like this.  You probably do to.  I think it's spot on with regards to how he operates.

MU could be 100% justified in all of this but there's no doubt in my mind that Buzz feels 100% justified in his decisions and views the university as the real problem.

There is some truth, in my opinion, to what you are saying.  Buzz's world is a strange world and he is a very strange guy.  I use strange to be polite.  He's an odd duck to put it mildly.  I laugh a bit at Lenny (actually, I laugh a lot at Lenny) and his remarks about personalities, especially in light of Buzz's.

Buzz has always had a chip on his shoulder around the JUCO thing because he was a JUCO.  Nothing wrong with being a JUCO, but you have to be careful.  Some kids are there because they are late developers, not mature, etc. Some kids are there for reasons that are far different.  It isn't a one size fits all situation.  Where Buzz gets into trouble is defending the indefensible and he puts himself in that situation because they are his recruits.  So that's where I disagree on the win win scenario.  It's almost like he wants to be Tark 2.0 at times.  

He's a very good coach.  He did some good things for the community and MU hoops.  He helped greatly with some players in getting them where they could succeed and flourish.  He also isn't back for a reason.  When someone is that successful on the court and isn't back and has to take one of the crappiest jobs out there....there are reasons.  
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 04:26:51 PM
That a whole half game by Wisconsin standards.

Or 4 games by DW standards
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: wadesworld on April 06, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Chicos,

I feel to accurately understand the rift between MU and Buzz, it's important to recognize the personality that is Buzz Williams.  I believe in his own myopic view of his world he believes he was doing what was right for the program and the kids he recruited even if it was exactly the opposite of what the university wanted.  In his mind, taking chances on kids with previous transgressions was an opportunity for him to alter their trajectory in life for the better.  I think he's that big of a narcissist.  It was a win win for him in the sense that if he took a flyer on a troubled kid and turned him around he validates himself and if the kid continues with his troubles he's justified for trying while holding the kid responsible.  He only gets the credit and none of the blame.

Now Marquette may have had issues with this and in Buzz's mind it was preventing him from what he felt was him doing good.

I know people like this.  You probably do to.  I think it's spot on with regards to how he operates.

MU could be 100% justified in all of this but there's no doubt in my mind that Buzz feels 100% justified in his decisions and views the university as the real problem.

I use to think similarly, but based on what I've been hearing over the last month I am now fairly certain that was the Schlick Brent tried to sell, but the reality is he had one goal in mind and it had nothing to do with "turning a kid's life around" or "giving a kid a second chance." The goal for him is: Win basketball games. Simple as that. Light a girl's hair on fire? No problem, if you can win me some basketball games. Punch someone in the face? Just put the ball in the hoop. Sexually assault a woman? It's okay, we'll hold a team meeting and get everyone's story on the same page. Maybe we can even call her and tell her not to press charges.

Just win, baby, win.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2014, 08:25:44 AM
I use to think similarly, but based on what I've been hearing over the last month I am now fairly certain that was the Schlick Brent tried to sell, but the reality is he had one goal in mind and it had nothing to do with "turning a kid's life around" or "giving a kid a second chance." The goal for him is: Win basketball games. Simple as that. Light a girl's hair on fire? No problem, if you can win me some basketball games. Punch someone in the face? Just put the ball in the hoop. Sexually assault a woman? It's okay, we'll hold a team meeting and get everyone's story on the same page. Maybe we can even call her and tell her not to press charges.

Just win, baby, win.

Reading this, I was reminded of Howland.  I wonder if he really had any chance at MU.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2014, 08:27:03 AM
Or 4 games by DW standards

You've got to stop defending the guy.  I mean, name any four game stretch where he scored 19 points.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 08, 2014, 12:04:27 PM
Update!



As has been discussed, Illinois offered Nick Noskowiak a scholarship.  So it's probably somewhat significant that on Sunday a recruiting guy for Illinois Insider predicted that Nick will be going to Marquette for 24/7's crystal ball.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 08, 2014, 02:42:14 PM
Update!



As has been discussed, Illinois offered Nick Noskowiak a scholarship.  So it's probably somewhat significant that on Sunday a recruiting guy for Illinois Insider predicted that Nick will be going to Marquette for 24/7's crystal ball.


Though I have much respect for Chief Illini, that blue and orange is HIDEOUS.
Ranks #2 right behind Bucky Red and White.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: noblewarrior on April 10, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Bump.... Looks like there is interest on Wojo's end.

Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  11h
New Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski to meet with Sun Prairie junior Nick Noskowiak today.

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Sharpie on April 11, 2014, 06:11:09 AM
http://m.host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-noskowiak-sold-on-marquette-s-steve-wojciechowski/article_0f4d5354-c11e-11e3-8edf-0019bb2963f4.html?mobile_touch=true (http://m.host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-noskowiak-sold-on-marquette-s-steve-wojciechowski/article_0f4d5354-c11e-11e3-8edf-0019bb2963f4.html?mobile_touch=true)

Sounds like the visit went well.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 11, 2014, 06:14:10 AM
It changed a ton.
That program was in a malaise. The players didn't want to play for Weber. Kids were quitting the program. The fans and students had turned on him. Donors were withholding money.
Bruce had to go.

Not everyone agrees with you that John Groce is a big improvement ...

Colleges in Illinois losing the hoops race

Article posted: 4/11/2014 5:18 AM

The Daily Herald
by Mike North

This year's NCAA men's basketball tournament was fantastic to watch, but without any participation from teams in Illinois, it's not as quite as much fun -- at least it wasn't for me.

If any of our teams -- Illinois, Northwestern, Northern, Southern or any other state school had participated, it would have been better.

What really hurts year after year is seeing all the terrific Chicagoland area players who have played in the tournament for other states.

I remember when Glenbrook North's Jon Scheyer was Mr. Basketball for the state of Illinois. I had his parents on the air numerous times and even Jon at one point, and I tried to steer them in the direction of a state school.

Now I think I owe them an apology.

My loyalty went too far; the kid had a fabulous college career, played a little ball overseas and won a national championship with Mike Krzyzewski and Duke.

Could he have made a difference at Illinois? Absolutely. Would he have won a national championship? The answer is no.

Frank Sinatra once sang a line, "Regrets, I had a few. But then again, too few to mention." The song line for Illinois schools should be, "Talent, we've lost a lot, too many to mention."

How about Aurora East's Ryan Boatright, who helped lead UConn to a national championship this year? Or Benet Academy's Frank Kaminsky of Lisle?

I saw Frank up close while helping as an assistant coach for Notre Dame College Prep, and he made our lives miserable with his outstanding play. Where did he go? Wisconsin -- a Final Four team this year, which also featured Ben Brust of Mundelein High School and Duje Dukan of Deerfield High School.

And then there's Simeon standout Jabari Parker, who went with Coach K at Duke. I am sure there are plenty of others you will either email me about or tweet.

Illinois last reached the Final Four in the 2004-2005 season with the Deron Williams leading a talented team. That was their chance and they dropped the ball.

This year is no different; the No. 1 recruit in the country, Jahlil Okafor from Whitney Young, is going to Duke. The No. 3 recruit in the nation, Cliff Alexander from Curie High school, is going to Kansas.

It appears Illinois schools have become doormats. Can a school here turn it around anytime soon?

I sure hope so.

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 11, 2014, 10:56:10 AM
As I have said before, MU needs to protect Wisconsin.  There are a lot of talented players here that need to be kept in state.  Losing 5 star recruits needs to stop.  THE LINE WILL BE DRAWN HERE !!!!!!    As far as Illinois goes, it's open season.  Let's poach some more FIBs.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 11, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
+1. Technically true but misleading and essentially false statements are one of the bondsman's specialities.

It's the Fox News way!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 11, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Let's poach some more FIBs.

LOL!  Forgot about that acronym.  I haven't heard that all to often out east.  My co-workers wife who went to U o f I was the only one I know who was familiar with it.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on April 11, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Heisenberg:

You should disclose when you are citing to an article written by the biggest tool in the history of sports radio (I believe that to be akin to the shortest midget award:  well-earned):

"Colleges in Illinois losing the hoops race

Article posted: 4/11/2014 5:18 AM

The Daily Herald
by Mike North"

Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: warriorchick on April 11, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
LOL!  Forgot about that acronym.  I haven't heard that all to often out east.  My co-workers wife who went to U o f I was the only one I know who was familiar with it.

I am sure you have heard plenty about the Mpretty boys, though.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: warriorchick on April 11, 2014, 12:45:15 PM
I am sure you have heard plenty about the Mpretty boys, though.

LOL, what the hell happened?  Let me say it a different way:  Ma$$holes.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 11, 2014, 01:55:06 PM
Heisenberg:

You should disclose when you are citing to an article written by the biggest tool in the history of sports radio (I believe that to be akin to the shortest midget award:  well-earned):

"Colleges in Illinois losing the hoops race

Article posted: 4/11/2014 5:18 AM

The Daily Herald
by Mike North"

North is one of the best sports writers/radio personalities in Chicago sports history.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Skitch on April 11, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
North is one of the best sports writers/radio personalities in Chicago sports history.


Please tell me this is sarcasm
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: leever on April 11, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
North is one of the best sports writers/radio personalities in Chicago sports history.


teal, please!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 11, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
teal, please!
+ infinity.  Can that number go higher?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on April 11, 2014, 02:15:11 PM
North is one of the best sports writers/radio personalities in Chicago sports history.


Who you crappin'?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 11, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
Who you crappin'?

Fixed above

The best Chicago Sports Personalities ....

1. Brian Hanley
2. Len Kasper
3. Jen Lada
4. Dan McGrath
5. who cares
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: WadeATKBurton on April 11, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
This LOCAL radio sports talk is out of my league lol
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on April 11, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
Fixed above

The best Chicago Sports Personalities ....

1. Brian Hanley
2. Len Kasper
3. Jen Lada
4. Dan McGrath
5. who cares

whew...and nailed it with the MU grads, sir!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 11, 2014, 03:00:59 PM
LOL, what the hell happened?  Let me say it a different way:  Ma$$holes.

That's Connecticut vs. Massachusetts right there.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: wadesworld on April 11, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Maybe Coach K placed a call on Wojo's behalf?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Jet915 on April 13, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
Still have a feeling he will recommit to Marquette but has an in-home visit with Creighton today.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ronald dragon on April 13, 2014, 01:38:14 PM
Still have a feeling he will recommit to Marquette but has an in-home visit with Creighton today.
If he doesn't land at MU I hope he goes to Creighton.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: bilsu on April 13, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
If he doesn't land at MU I hope he goes to Creighton.
That way the people who post here that think he is not any good can see how stupid they are.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Jet915 on April 13, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
Just got a commitment from BU PG Maurice Watson Jr. who will be eligible in 2015.  One PG down...
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Markusquette on April 13, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Just got a commitment from BU PG Maurice Watson Jr. who will be eligible in 2015.  One PG down...

Congrats jet!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 21, 2014, 08:35:14 AM
John Groce & Illinois visited Nick Noskowiak over the weekend.


Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 23, 2014, 01:08:00 AM
Word is UNLV offered recently.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/UNLV-offers-Nick-Noskowiak-28284488
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 23, 2014, 11:02:27 AM
Groce is nothing like Weber, and it's way too soon to judge the results.
Last year was the Illini's best season in quite a while, with winning the Maui Invitational, 14-0 start, win over #1 Indiana, etc.
This year they took an expected step back after losing their top two players from the previous season and three starters in all. Barring transfers, they'll lose only one player off this year's roster and should be improved next year.

Off to a good start for next year ....

Illini's Darius Paul charged with underage drinking, resisting officer

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-report-illini-paul-arrested-20140422,0,3260760.story

Illinois basketball player Darius Paul was arrested Tuesday morning for resisting a police officer and for underage drinking.

Paul, 20, ran from a university police officer after she saw him and another male walking across a parking lot, university police captain Roy Acree said. The other male was not identified.

Paul exhibited no violent behavior, Acree said.

He was taken to the Champaign County satellite jail in Urbana at the time of the incident and subsequently released on bond. Paul was arraigned at the Champaign County courthouse later Tuesday.

Paul will appear in court again on May 16 and faces up to 365 days in jail for the misdemeanor, according to the Champaign County state’s attorney office in Urbana.

Via email, Lynda Paul, Darius’ mother, said the family had no comment and it has hired an attorney.

Paul was walking across the South China restaurant parking lot on Springfield St. after 3 a.m. Tuesday, when an officer noticed him. She lost sight of him before she noticed him again in a location where it appeared he had been walking across railroad tracks.

When the officer followed Paul on foot and ordered him to stop, he began walking at a brisker pace, Acree said. When Paul was asked to stop a second time, he began running. He was tackled and apprehended outside of 57 E. Healey St., where he lives in Champaign.

He was arrested for resisting and obstructing a police officer and for illegal consumption of alcohol by a minor. Police say he admitted he had been drinking.

“If he would have just listened to the police officer at most he would have received a city ordinance for the illegal consumption of a minor,” Acree said. “For one reason or another, he decided to run.”

A sophomore transfer from Western Michigan, he sat out last season because of NCAA transfer rules but is expected make a strong impact in the upcoming season. He is the younger brother of former Illini guard Brandon Paul, whose Illini career ended two seasons ago.

“We are aware of the situation that occurred with Darius and are in the process of gathering more information,” coach John Groce said in a statement Tuesday. “We need to let the legal process run its course and then will determine the appropriate disciplinary action.”
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: mr.MUskie on April 23, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Off to a good start for next year ....

Illini's Darius Paul charged with underage drinking, resisting officer

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-report-illini-paul-arrested-20140422,0,3260760.story

Illinois basketball player Darius Paul was arrested Tuesday morning for resisting a police officer and for underage drinking.

Paul, 20, ran from a university police officer after she saw him and another male walking across a parking lot, university police captain Roy Acree said. The other male was not identified.

Paul exhibited no violent behavior, Acree said.

He was taken to the Champaign County satellite jail in Urbana at the time of the incident and subsequently released on bond. Paul was arraigned at the Champaign County courthouse later Tuesday.

Paul will appear in court again on May 16 and faces up to 365 days in jail for the misdemeanor, according to the Champaign County state’s attorney office in Urbana.

Via email, Lynda Paul, Darius’ mother, said the family had no comment and it has hired an attorney.

Paul was walking across the South China restaurant parking lot on Springfield St. after 3 a.m. Tuesday, when an officer noticed him. She lost sight of him before she noticed him again in a location where it appeared he had been walking across railroad tracks.

When the officer followed Paul on foot and ordered him to stop, he began walking at a brisker pace, Acree said. When Paul was asked to stop a second time, he began running. He was tackled and apprehended outside of 57 E. Healey St., where he lives in Champaign.

He was arrested for resisting and obstructing a police officer and for illegal consumption of alcohol by a minor. Police say he admitted he had been drinking.

“If he would have just listened to the police officer at most he would have received a city ordinance for the illegal consumption of a minor,” Acree said. “For one reason or another, he decided to run.”

A sophomore transfer from Western Michigan, he sat out last season because of NCAA transfer rules but is expected make a strong impact in the upcoming season. He is the younger brother of former Illini guard Brandon Paul, whose Illini career ended two seasons ago.

“We are aware of the situation that occurred with Darius and are in the process of gathering more information,” coach John Groce said in a statement Tuesday. “We need to let the legal process run its course and then will determine the appropriate disciplinary action.”

Must be pretty slow if a female cop caught up to him.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: brandx on April 23, 2014, 11:53:29 AM
Interesting. Faces 365 days in jail for walking across a parking lot at night.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tums Festival on April 23, 2014, 02:40:21 PM
Word is UNLV offered recently.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/UNLV-offers-Nick-Noskowiak-28284488

UNLV isn't the only one:

Derek Piper ‏@DerekPiper247  23m
Buzz Williams has offered former Marquette commit PG Nick Noskowiak. Groce and Parham visited on Saturday. #Illini http://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Noskowiak-23497 …
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Daniel on April 23, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
Word is Buzz offered Noskowiak too -
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: tower912 on April 23, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
So...does Nick like Marquette, or does Nick like Buzz?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Marqevans on April 23, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
So...does Nick like Marquette, or does Nick like Buzz?

Exactly!
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Tums Festival on April 23, 2014, 03:21:22 PM
So...does Nick like Marquette, or does Nick like Buzz?

He has mentioned more than once that Marquette is his favorite team, so we shall see.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: ATWizJr on April 23, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
when is signing day?
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 23, 2014, 04:08:53 PM
He has mentioned more than once that Marquette is his favorite team, so we shall see.

Don't recall that.  I thought it was Cohen who said he'd long been a MU fan.

Hope you're right....
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 23, 2014, 04:47:43 PM
I thought that it was Nick that said something like:  "It's not a question of whether I want MU, it's a question of whether MU and coach Wojo want me." - paraphrasing....
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: jakeec on April 23, 2014, 05:04:46 PM
Yea, this will get interesting with Buzz back in the picture.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: BM1090 on April 23, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
FWIW Mark Miller and Evan Flood both predicted Nick to MU today
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: MU Buff on April 23, 2014, 05:23:26 PM
No inside info but I'm pretty confident if Wojo keeps recruiting Noskowiak he will be at Marquette.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 23, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
when is signing day?

I believe it is Wed., November 12th, 2014.
Title: Re: Noskowiak opens up his recruitment
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 24, 2014, 09:29:01 AM
From what I'm hearing, CoWojo is the frontrunner