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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on March 04, 2014, 11:10:25 PM
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Reading the posts on this board makes me embarassed to be a Marquette fan. Grown men ripping on college students who fought their heart out to get back in the game.
When Marquette went down 11, it was the people who post here who gave up; not the players.
I'll take this team representing my school over the people who post here anyday.
To the mods and intelligent posters, thank you for a great forum for the past 8 years.
I'm done.
Go Marquette.
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Bye!
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Point taken. There are quite a few posters around here that have at best one fifth the heart of this team.
My only solace is that they know it.
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Did you even watch the game? That's not a rhetorical question, that's a serious question.
We have a point guard who missed a 6" lay up. We have a starting line up who only cracked 20 points because we went to multiple OT's. Our bench outscored Providence approximately 53-3 and we still lost. Our starting backcourt was outscored 40-7. Deonte Burton barely saw the second half.
You have officially drunk all of the Kool Aid. I'm not akin to dying in a cult type mass suicide but if it suits you, so be it.
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You're not the only one Titan, I've had enough too
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You're not the only one Titan, I've had enough too
Bye!
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me too Titan
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Bye!
Just golden contribution once again.
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me too Titan
Bye!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy9_lfjQopU
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Bye!
Bye!
Bye!
Be careful. There have been a lot of good posters who have left this forum lately. And you just said goodbye to three more.
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Unfortunate if you guys leave. People get a bit out of hand during games like this....I know I have.
Frustrating season....hope you come back.
Peace
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Bye!
you guys really going to turn this place over to jag wads like this? I feel you, but if guys like you go, I'll have no choice but to do the same. No point in hanging around if there's nothing but a bunch of entitled, unintelligent pud whacks left.
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I read but have posted less. I'll be a scooper pooper till the day I die.
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I normally don't check the board for 24 hours after a loss. All the mouth breathers are typically gone by then.
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Be careful. There have been a lot of good posters who have left this forum lately. And you just said goodbye to three more.
I didn't do anything. You 40+ year old somethings spewing nothing but hate at 20 year olds. I'm not calling you out specifically, but the way this forum responds is comical at times.
Maybe they should leave. Focus on their families. Work. Instead of blowing gaskets and getting their heart rates up over basketball games and young kids who just want to play ball. I'm just here to observe.
And alas, the response was beautiful and it went up in flames, classic Scoop style.
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Was the tone any different on any of the other MU message boards? Hard to believe there wasn't some venting and criticism on the other boards...
I think there is a place to draw the line...yet tonight I think the frustrations of the season boiled over...as this game was a microcosm of the frustrations many have held most of the year.
At the end of the day, gotta place blame on Buzz and not the players...they are out there doing their best and if their talent is such that they truly would be better suited in a back up role, then they should be playing as a back up..
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Love the superiority complex. Feel great about yourself. I e earned the right to dissent and I find it odd that Buzz is in denial that he hasn't coached his team up. They make stupid decisions at critical moments. Big business entities come under big time scrutiny.
In the immortal words of Artie Lang; "Whah"
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Posters can be very critical of players myself included. However, this is major college basketball and people take it seriously...sometimes too seriously. I honestly feel if you think a certain player is playing like crap, it's a message board and you should be able to call them out if you want. Attacks on the players character and wishing them ill will are disheartening and shouldn't be tolerated though. I mean when guys are missing lay ups, what should we say? Go get em next time tiger...I mean come on.
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Was the tone any different on any of the other MU message boards? Hard to believe there wasn't some venting and criticism on the other boards...
I think there is a place to draw the line...yet tonight I think the frustrations of the season boiled over...as this game was a microcosm of the frustrations many have held most of the year.
At the end of the day, gotta place blame on Buzz and not the players...they are out there doing their best and if their talent is such that they truly would be better suited in a back up role, then they should be playing as a back up..
At IWB's public board, there is some, but nothing at vitriolic as this board. Not even close.
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Love the superiority complex. Feel great about yourself. I e earned the right to dissent
You haven't earned jack sh*t. You have been given the opportunity based on nothing more than filling out your email address on a webpage.
Talk about entitlement.
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I read but have posted less. I'll be a scooper pooper till the day I die.
I understand that posters go overboard at times, But what do you want them to say when they are frustrated?
I don't even think it is that we are losing games, but that we are losing them exactly the same way that we were in the first month of the season.
We all see what is going on with the team. Quite frankly, it is not a very good team and they shouldn't be immune to criticism from fans. After all, being ball players is the life that these guys chose.
But, at the end of the day, the cause of the frustration is pretty obvious. And it should probably be aimed at Buzz rather than the players. He decides who is on the floor. But when you have a starting lineup that is unable to reach 20 points (in regulation) for the 2nd game in a row, something is radically wrong. There are other options. But to trot the same lineup out there game after game is the ultimate cause of this frustration.
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Posters can be very critical of players myself included. However, this is major college basketball and people take it seriously...sometimes too seriously. I honestly feel if you think a certain player is playing like crap, it's a message board and you should be able to call them out if you want. Attacks on the players character and wishing them ill will are disheartening and shouldn't be tolerated though. I mean when guys are missing lay ups, what should we say? Go get em next time tiger...I mean come on.
This. They put themselves in the spotlight. This is what a message board is for. If they are bad, you can say it.
As I have said many times, if we have to even be positive about bad plays and players...How do we sort out the LeBron James and Dylan Floods?
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Posters can be very critical of players myself included. However, this is major college basketball and people take it seriously...sometimes too seriously. I honestly feel if you think a certain player is playing like crap, it's a message board and you should be able to call them out if you want. Attacks on the players character and wishing them ill will are disheartening and shouldn't be tolerated though. I mean when guys are missing lay ups, what should we say? Go get em next time tiger...I mean come on.
Unless a player clearly misses on purpose, you scream "COME ON BUZZ, PULL THIS KID!!" It's 100% on Buzz.
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Bye!
Youre a jag. Always have been with your posts. I am embarrassed to say that I went to the same university as you.
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This starting 5 is the embarrassment, not the board.
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Youre a jag. Always have been with your posts. I am embarrassed to say that I went to the same university as you.
Jags are quite nice cars and some of the most beautiful ever made.
Wouldn't mind getting myself an E-Type or that new XF. Gorgeous.
So thanks. That's quite the compliment. :-*
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Be careful. There have been a lot of good posters who have left this forum lately. And you just said goodbye to three more.
I'll give you that two of those were good posters but heisenberg... ehhhh
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I'll give you that two of those were good posters but heisenberg... ehhhh
He still thinks UW is gonna miss the tournament ;D
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Jags are quite nice cars and some of the most beautiful ever made.
Wouldn't mind getting myself an E-Type or that new XF. Gorgeous.
So thanks. That's quite the compliment. :-*
This troll has been banned.
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People support the program financially, others buy Marquette stuff from the store and website...
People have a right to express their distaste.
Kudos for coming back but there are LOTS of problems with this team/season.
If you enjoy supporting the kids for great effort but they always lose games, go cheer for NJIT.
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If someone can point me in a direction to a Marquette volleyball (and overall college volleyball but specifically focused on Wisconsin area posters) forum I, too, will join.
Until then, I will just post in the Super Bar topics (football, baseball, volleyball).
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People support the program financially, others buy Marquette stuff from the store and website...
People have a right to express their distaste.
Kudos for coming back but there are LOTS of problems with this team/season.
If you enjoy supporting the kids for great effort but they always lose games, go cheer for NJIT.
I think there is a fine line here. Expressing one's distaste = acceptable. Pointing out problem's with individual players games = acceptable.
Some of the over the top attacks on the kids here tonight.... unacceptable.
I don't get the support the program financially argument. So if stockholders created a website for your wife's company and called her a stupid b**ch for the mistakes she made at work you would be okay with that? After all, they support her company financially.
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I didn't do anything. You 40+ year old somethings spewing nothing but hate at 20 year olds. I'm not calling you out specifically, but the way this forum responds is comical at times.
Maybe they should leave. Focus on their families. Work. Instead of blowing gaskets and getting their heart rates up over basketball games and young kids who just want to play ball. I'm just here to observe.
And alas, the response was beautiful and it went up in flames, classic Scoop style.
(http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/60/6066/75ZD100Z/posters/harry-bliss-good-game-good-game-nice-game-good-game-i-m-in-love-with-you-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg)
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This troll has been banned.
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Please don't leave us! There are only so many positive posters left!
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Maybe we should just join the conference with Whitewater, Stout and the rest. Then we can just be satisfied with playing hard and not worry about winning or getting to the tourney. Then the Derrick Wilson's and Jake Thomas's can be happy they played hard and lost. Then we won't get bad when the players don't use their heads.
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this thread is hilarious...more drama than a pack of middle school girls.
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Maybe we should just join the conference with Whitewater, Stout and the rest. Then we can just be satisfied with playing hard and not worry about winning or getting to the tourney. Then the Derrick Wilson's and Jake Thomas's can be happy they played hard and lost. Then we won't get bad when the players don't use their heads.
jake and derrick did what was asked of them, and what they're capable of doing. it's fine to question if they have the talent to start/play at MU, but i'd never question their work ethic or character. buzz has decided those are his guys...if he doesn't have anyone better, he failed to recruit and plan well...if he's playing them because he refuses to play them based upon other reasons, he'll need to show that setting that precedence pays off in the long run. if vander stays and junior red-shirts we're how good this year?? it's not jake and derrick's fault...but i'm not hearing their character be questioned?
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Bye!
It is douches like you that drive all the decent posters away.
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you guys really going to turn this place over to jag wads like this?
The jags have taken over, and the mods have let them. See you at the Brew City board
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There is a yin and yang to having a board where all are welcome, where the mods just want to have discussions about MU hoops, and where they want the open and honest discussions to happen. Sometimes, people's worst natures take over. The vast majority of us went to MU. That is supposed to mean something. About world views. About the Jesuit approach to the world. Buzz has spoken frequently in the past about how character is revealed through adversity. A whole bunch of people have revealed their character in relation to the MU basketball program. Revealed their character in relation to a sense of entitlement. Revealed their character in their lack of patience or tolerance. Revealed their character through their endless whining and criticism of every failing. They shouldn't be proud.
Look in the mirror and contemplate if this is who you really want to be.
It's Lent. As you get those ashes on your forehead, think. Make some resolutions to be better people over the next few weeks. Hopefully it sticks. I'm not leaving.
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I'm fine with banning the trolls, but let's not kid ourselves. There is a fair amount of arrogance in starting a thread to say you are leaving. If you want to leave because you don't like the tonality of the board, then fine, depart.
The only reason you need to start a thread about it is so that you can see people begging you to stay.
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There is a yin and yang to having a board where all are welcome, where the mods just want to have discussions about MU hoops, and where they want the open and honest discussions to happen. Sometimes, people's worst natures take over. The vast majority of us went to MU. That is supposed to mean something. About world views. About the Jesuit approach to the world. Buzz has spoken frequently in the past about how character is revealed through adversity. A whole bunch of people have revealed their character in relation to the MU basketball program. Revealed their character in relation to a sense of entitlement. Revealed their character in their lack of patience or tolerance. Revealed their character through their endless whining and criticism of every failing. They shouldn't be proud.
Look in the mirror and contemplate if this is who you really want to be.
It's Lent. As you get those ashes on your forehead, think. Make some resolutions to be better people over the next few weeks. Hopefully it sticks. I'm not leaving.
We can go ahead close the thread and post this to the top of the board without further discussion....well said Tower, my thoughts exactly
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I am a big baseball fan and also a football fan. I root for local teams in those sports and have no shortage of friends and relatives that like sports with whom I can talk about Red Sox-Yankees, Jets-Giants, etc. I have never posted or thought to post on message boards related to those sports because I have an outlet for those discussions. I come here because I love Marquette hoops and there aren't people to talk about that with around here.
So this board tends to be my way of talking about Marquette basketball. I think in regular converation we all say over the top things like "this guy stinks" or much worse with regards to players and coaches on teams that we follow. You realize what you are saying is an exaggeration and the people you are talking with understand that, too. When you take the time to actually write it down, however, comments like that seem much worse. So for me I try to temper my vitriol when typing, not always successfully. I would hope that those who may read these forums understand that.
But if you can't express your true opinions and have the discussions you want to have, what is the purpose of a board like this? I have a feeling that the people who write the most mean-spirited things on this board are probably fine regular guys who are just venting.
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Unfortunate if you guys leave. People get a bit out of hand during games like this....I know I have.
Frustrating season....hope you come back.
Peace
You cant leave, This place will become nothing but a Derrick Wilson/Buzz Hate rally
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I am not sure what's worse - the posts attacking players or the smugness / "holier than thou" posts criticizing the posters or the vanity of annoucing you are "done" - fine, just leave then.
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I think everyone is overreacting a tad. "This board" is not an embarassment. Sure, some of the posters are obvious trolls and only bring negativity. That's the nature of an internet message board. People get frustrated after a loss and vent their feelings here. If it's over the top, then ignore it or let the mods take care of it. If it's too much to handle and you have to take a couple days, weeks, entire offseason away because it's frustrating you, then fine.
But why this thread annoucning your depature? Why, in your final moments on this message board, are you going to succumb to all the posters that are driving you out by generalizing that entire board is an embarassment? That's the embarassment, in that you feel the need to make one final blatant attempt to bring everyone else down just because you yourself are frustrated.
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I'm fine with banning the trolls, but let's not kid ourselves. There is a fair amount of arrogance in starting a thread to say you are leaving. If you want to leave because you don't like the tonality of the board, then fine, depart.
The only reason you need to start a thread about it is so that you can see people begging you to stay.
TT is a long time, thoughtful, analytical poster. The board will be less than it was without him.
The posters who minimize the loss of thoughtful posters like TT will hasten its demise. My ignore list has grown to a point where I will blast past 5 or 6 posts before coming across a post that I can read.
I used to enjoy the kind of crazy free wheeling nature of this board, but it's like free will. If posters can't police themselves, a higher power will. (or we'll all go to IWB's board)
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This board has had a lot of negativity this season. We have always had negativity on the forums after losses, and this season has had a lot of losses.
Certain types of posters only post after losses, or when things are going negatively. I haven't ever read the forums much after losses because of those types of people.
Rage-quitting a forum after a loss, though, is pretty hilarious. This thread is pure gold :)
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I'm sure everyone will come back and everything will be peachy.
Bonus points for using the word peachy. Welcome to the board.
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...the people who post here gave up, not the players...I'll take this team representing my school over the people who post here anyday.
Let's put this in perspective. You condemn "the people who post here" as being beneath you. This is coming from a guy who has 6571 posts! Let's say it takes an average of 5 minutes from the time you read someone else's post, formulate a response, type it in, check for typos and post it. Multiply that by 6571 and you have spent at least 33,000 minutes being one of "the people who post here". That's the equivalent of roughly 550 hours or almost 14 forty-hour work weeks doing nothing BUT posting here. If you have an issue with "the people who post here", frankly you should have figured that out about 6570 posts ago. This is a forum for people who have an emotional attachment to the team (and the university) to express their opinions, and that's exactly what they do. So, if you are one of the people who heavily contributed to the evolution and direction of this board over the last 8 years, don't condemn it or its members now.
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Rage-quitting a forum after a loss, though, is pretty hilarious. This thread is pure gold :)
It would be funnier if it were not so genuinely petulant
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IWB's public board
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great cartoons
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Damn.... I'm kind of glad I took a few months off from reading things here. also not surprised how things have turned ugly here, but the team is just awful
Probably for the best, though and I would have said awful things about the players, eventually about sultan -supbro- and I would have been landed a part time ban
are gifs still a thing? (http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-12/enhanced/webdr07/3/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13755-1386090601-21.gif)
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I've been accused of being a slurper I think, and I've also gone all ragey on "negative" posters here so let me take a minute to explain my perspective.
I don't have issue with the board or individual posters, but what is off putting to me is appears to be a lack of perspective and a sense of entitlement. This is a bad year and the team, coach, and school deserve criticism and second guessing. However, there is often no balance and anyone that offers balance because the slurper type. I want to have constructive conversations and debates on the message board. If I want to go all venty I talk to an actual human and/or go on twitter. It seems a lot of people just use the message board to vent and for me it's really hard to see past that when I'm trying to glean something intelligent from this.
The entitlement is also off putting. Yes it's a bad year, do other top 25 programs not have a down year? Is Buzz not entitle based on his performance to date to have an off or tough year. This isn't the season we wanted but turns out at the end of the season every fanbase but one gets at least some disappointment.
Take Ners (sorry to pick on you), he may drive me nuts with his constant Dawson harping and threadjacking for the same purpose, but I can get nuggets of knowledge and perspective from him that aren't my own. This is a great thing. Someone coming on the board and saying "Juan is awful and should get no minutes" is not helpful and quite frankly frustrating.
So my point is, I think if we attempt to self censor some of the ventiness of our posting habits we'd find this all to be a happier and more useful place.
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Jesus Christ what a kitten. It's a freaking message board.
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There is a delicate balance that the moderators have to strike between moderating a board that fosters complete and uninhibited exchange of thought and opinion and allowing a board to descend into lunacy. It is not a job that I envy. They have done a nice job, I think, allowing that free exchange of opinions. However, at some point, the purpose of the board needs to be re-examined.
Is the purpose of MU Scoop to be a truly "free expression" board, where filters and moderation are minimal and the loudest extremes can thrive? If so, then the level of dialogue that we have seen on this board over the last few months is not only to be expected, but must be tolerated.
However, if the purpose of MU Scoop is to be a message board that fosters engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion, then perhaps tighter reins need to be pulled in over the content of what posters post. Of course, that begs the question, who gets to determine what is "engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion?"
Only the moderators have the ability to make these determinations. As I have said, they have done a heck of a job in the past. Unfortunately, however, this season has absolutely caused a decrease in the amount of engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion. Instead, we have seen a surge in the entitled lunacy spouted from behind the anonymity of screen names. Alas, that is the fate of message boards that try to foster truly open discussion; the anonymity of screen names allows people to post without repercussion. When consequences are not visible - when people do not fear bans or loss of posting privileges - people will say what they are going to say, regardless of its crassness, insulting nature or lack of reason.
This is not a shot against the moderators, because they are the only ones that can decide, again, whether that is acceptable as part of the overall mission to foster truly open conversation. The problem with that truly open conversation is that it drives those more engaging and, dare I say reasonable, posters away from the conversation, thereby reducing the overall value of the conversations. Sadly, I have noticed this happening as the fringe has laid a larger and larger stake to the discussions on this board.
In sum, I don't really know what I just wrote. I just know less and less meaningful discussion appears to be taking place and less and less credible, reasonable and engaging posters seem to be posting. It is a shame to lose that discussion because of the loud antics of some entitled few.
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Jesus Christ what a kitten. It's a freaking message board.
I think this is the problem. I honestly believe the many posters have no accountability. I'm not perfect, but I try to never post anything that I would not say to someone's face. I think most of what is posted here, the poster would never have the balls to say to the player or coach.
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This place after a loss
(http://blog.unitrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/torches-and-pitchforks.jpg)
(http://charlestonteaparty.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/torchespitchforks.jpg)
And of course Buzz protecting Dwill from this board
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Go WARRIORS! WARRIORS! WARRIORS! WARRIORS! Enough of the Golden Eagle crap. It literally
drained my enthusiasm for MU basketball at times. But still back em' all the way.
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The irony of this thread is that TallTitan swore off the board as a result of some heat-of-the-moment posts. Some may argue his reply was equally driven by emotion.
I won't hold it against you, TT, if you come back. In fact, I'll celebrate your return.
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Who wants to talk fishing?!!!
;D
Life's too short.
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denverMU won't approve of takin' your wife shoppin'.
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Look in the mirror and contemplate if this is who you really want to be.
It's Lent. As you get those ashes on your forehead, think. Make some resolutions to be better people over the next few weeks. Hopefully it sticks. I'm not leaving.
Interesting that you made this comment. I was considering giving up the board for Lent. It is something I enjoy and with which I spend a fair amount of time; it would be an absence that I would notice (more than chocolate, not as much as coffee).
After last night's loss, and knowing that the NCAA is almost (BE tourney run??) out of the question, I realized that this Lentin season giving up the board for a while wouldn't be that much of a sacrifice. And the changing tenor of the board is a factor in that too. I'm here for now, and hope that the board improvesas the emotion of a disappointing season fades away.
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For many, it may not be the loss, it may be the cumulative number that were not expected. It could also be the way we lost last night. While derogatory names should not be used at the players, poor decisions and play deserve to be called out. There were plenty of those last night by a few players. And finally, the HC is the one that is fully responsible for this season. There were many decisions made by him this year that were very ill advised.
Many say give him a mulligan this year. OK, he has received it, so there should be significant improvement next year. Sure hope so.
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Thanks for the new signature, TallTitan.
I promise that you'll be vaguely remembered for winning a couple of Palermo's Pizzas at games.
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The only reason you need to start a thread about it is so that you can see people begging you to stay.
Or perhaps the other reason is to start the thread that it actually did start. If just one d-bag thinks twice before anonymously ripping unpaid college basketball players in a public forum, then some good has come out of it. If you want to rag on Buzz, that's one thing. He is a well-paid professional and can take it (though common decency rules should still apply, or, dare I hope?, common sense), but I scratch my head at people who lash out at the kids. TT was right in that regard; those posters are indeed an embarrassment to the rest of the alumni base.
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I've been accused of being a slurper I think, and I've also gone all ragey on "negative" posters here so let me take a minute to explain my perspective.
I don't have issue with the board or individual posters, but what is off putting to me is appears to be a lack of perspective and a sense of entitlement. This is a bad year and the team, coach, and school deserve criticism and second guessing. However, there is often no balance and anyone that offers balance because the slurper type. I want to have constructive conversations and debates on the message board. If I want to go all venty I talk to an actual human and/or go on twitter. It seems a lot of people just use the message board to vent and for me it's really hard to see past that when I'm trying to glean something intelligent from this.
The entitlement is also off putting. Yes it's a bad year, do other top 25 programs not have a down year? Is Buzz not entitle based on his performance to date to have an off or tough year. This isn't the season we wanted but turns out at the end of the season every fanbase but one gets at least some disappointment.
Take Ners (sorry to pick on you), he may drive me nuts with his constant Dawson harping and threadjacking for the same purpose, but I can get nuggets of knowledge and perspective from him that aren't my own. This is a great thing. Someone coming on the board and saying "Juan is awful and should get no minutes" is not helpful and quite frankly frustrating.
So my point is, I think if we attempt to self censor some of the ventiness of our posting habits we'd find this all to be a happier and more useful place.
I like this.
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There is a delicate balance that the moderators have to strike between moderating a board that fosters complete and uninhibited exchange of thought and opinion and allowing a board to descend into lunacy. It is not a job that I envy. They have done a nice job, I think, allowing that free exchange of opinions. However, at some point, the purpose of the board needs to be re-examined.
Is the purpose of MU Scoop to be a truly "free expression" board, where filters and moderation are minimal and the loudest extremes can thrive? If so, then the level of dialogue that we have seen on this board over the last few months is not only to be expected, but must be tolerated.
However, if the purpose of MU Scoop is to be a message board that fosters engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion, then perhaps tighter reins need to be pulled in over the content of what posters post. Of course, that begs the question, who gets to determine what is "engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion?"
Only the moderators have the ability to make these determinations. As I have said, they have done a heck of a job in the past. Unfortunately, however, this season has absolutely caused a decrease in the amount of engaging, intelligent and meaningful discussion. Instead, we have seen a surge in the entitled lunacy spouted from behind the anonymity of screen names. Alas, that is the fate of message boards that try to foster truly open discussion; the anonymity of screen names allows people to post without repercussion. When consequences are not visible - when people do not fear bans or loss of posting privileges - people will say what they are going to say, regardless of its crassness, insulting nature or lack of reason.
This is not a shot against the moderators, because they are the only ones that can decide, again, whether that is acceptable as part of the overall mission to foster truly open conversation. The problem with that truly open conversation is that it drives those more engaging and, dare I say reasonable, posters away from the conversation, thereby reducing the overall value of the conversations. Sadly, I have noticed this happening as the fringe has laid a larger and larger stake to the discussions on this board.
In sum, I don't really know what I just wrote. I just know less and less meaningful discussion appears to be taking place and less and less credible, reasonable and engaging posters seem to be posting. It is a shame to lose that discussion because of the loud antics of some entitled few.
And this.
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Thanks for the new signature, TallTitan.
I promise that you'll be vaguely remembered for winning a couple of Palermo's Pizzas at games.
well done.
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Thanks for the new signature, TallTitan.
I promise that you'll be vaguely remembered for winning a couple of Palermo's Pizzas at games.
for exposing the corruption that is that contest? It helps to know (be) the mascot.
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All kidding aside, I've been far more active on this board in the past than I have this season. Part of the reason is the ludicrous reaction that people have to our wins/losses.
If I didn't know better I'd say it's that we have too many Chicago people in our fan base. No fan base is more bipolar and that is a nationally recognized fact.
But really it's probably just "I'm on the internet so f common decency syndrome." It's far more fun to say "FINAL FOUR HERE WE COME!" after a win or "WE'LL BE LUCKY TO BE IN THE NIT!" after a loss. The fact that so many people do that is just the kind of thing that makes me less likely to participate in the board.
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If I didn't know better I'd say it's that we have too many Chicago people in our fan base. No fan base is more bipolar and that is a nationally recognized fact.
Thats just false. That honor easily goes to NY or LA.
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Thats just false. That honor easily goes to NY or LA.
I give insanity honors to Philly (they boo-ed Santa for goodness sake), plastic surgery honors to LA, and general idiocy/supremacy complex honors to NYC, but for hot/cold bipolar-ness, that's Chicago hands down. Just listen to the radio after a 1-0 Bears start and enjoy people declaring the second coming of 1985 and then right after a loss to GB, and enjoy people lining up to jump off the Sears (f-you Wills) Tower.
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I give insanity honors to Philly (they boo-ed Santa for goodness sake), plastic surgery honors to LA, and general idiocy/supremacy complex honors to NYC, but for hot/cold bipolar-ness, that's Chicago hands down. Just listen to the radio after a 1-0 Bears start and enjoy people declaring the second coming of 1985 and then right after a loss to GB, and enjoy people lining up to jump off the Sears (f-you Wills) Tower.
Boston would give Philly a run for their money for that insanity title.
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Thanks for the new signature, TallTitan.
I promise that you'll be vaguely remembered for winning a couple of Palermo's Pizzas at games.
There is no winners when it comes to eating a Palermo's Pizza. You are always doomed at some point.
Anyways....I picked a hell of a time to have overnight training in luxurious Appleton, Wisconsin and not be on here.
It seems like SoCal has been trying to weed out some of the crapheads, but this is a new low. I really enjoy this place, but I registered over at BCB to give it a try. Best part about all the new negativity-only posters is they will be long gone 15 minutes after MU loses in the NIT, and won't be heard again until Buzz's first loss with Derrick Wilson starting point guard next year.
I understand and do appreciate the open forum that has been allowed by the moderators. There are bannings happening in the extreme cases (see Nevada and setyoursightsnorth), so hopefully those continue. If not, this place will be even deader during the offseason with TT, Sultan, brewcity, etc all gone.
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Who wants to talk fishing?!!!
;D
Life's too short.
I read this wrong... really thought the boards had taken a XXX turn
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There is no winners when it comes to eating a Palermo's Pizza. You are always doomed at some point.
Anyways....I picked a hell of a time to have overnight training in luxurious Appleton, Wisconsin and not be on here.
It seems like SoCal has been trying to weed out some of the crapheads, but this is a new low. I really enjoy this place, but I registered over at BCB to give it a try. Best part about all the new negativity-only posters is they will be long gone 15 minutes after MU loses in the NIT, and won't be heard again until Buzz's first loss with Derrick Wilson starting point guard next year.
I understand and do appreciate the open forum that has been allowed by the moderators. There are bannings happening in the extreme cases (see Nevada and setyoursightsnorth), so hopefully those continue. If not, this place will be even deader during the offseason with TT, Sultan, brewcity, etc all gone.
I agree.
The mods do this for FREE. Actually at a cost to a couple of them. They owe us nothing.
With that said, the mods will do the right thing and delete or ban the knuckleheads. Just realize, they can't do it in real time.
If we want real time moderation, I propose that Keefe be annointed as a moderator! Let hthe sh1t storm begin. :o
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I read this wrong... really thought the boards had taken a XXX turn
Sorry, the porn thread is two doors down, and to your right.
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There is no winners when it comes to eating a Palermo's Pizza. You are always doomed at some point.
Anyways....I picked a hell of a time to have overnight training in luxurious Appleton, Wisconsin and not be on here.
It seems like SoCal has been trying to weed out some of the crapheads, but this is a new low. I really enjoy this place, but I registered over at BCB to give it a try. Best part about all the new negativity-only posters is they will be long gone 15 minutes after MU loses in the NIT, and won't be heard again until Buzz's first loss with Derrick Wilson starting point guard next year.
I understand and do appreciate the open forum that has been allowed by the moderators. There are bannings happening in the extreme cases (see Nevada and setyoursightsnorth), so hopefully those continue. If not, this place will be even deader during the offseason with TT, Sultan, brewcity, etc all gone.
I know this board is dead in the summer, but it is probably my favorite time of the year. The news is slow, a lot of BS gets thrown around, but at least I don't have to read the constant griping about one bad season in 7 years.
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I know this board is dead in the summer, but it is probably my favorite time of the year. The news is slow, a lot of BS gets thrown around, but at least I don't have to read the constant griping about one bad season in 7 years.
+1
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No point in hanging around if there's nothing but a bunch of entitled, unintelligent pud whacks left.
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?-( The OP was showing active as of a half hour ago. DID HE LIE TO US??? Why would he do that? Please OP update us with what's going on, I'm afraid I won't be able to eat or sleep until you do.
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?-( The OP was showing active as of a half hour ago. DID HE LIE TO US??? Why would he do that? Please OP update us with what's going on, I'm afraid I won't be able to eat or sleep until you do.
A bunch of them do. Actually, there is a large contingent of folks who post on both boards. No big deal. It's just the ones that were so public about their disgust about Scoop that get made fun of.
Personally, I liked Brew's posts. He's not a bad guy. I've had a couple of good conversations with him via PM over the years. If he had an issue with Keefe's picture, he simply should have PM'ed him and asked him about it, versus whining about it to the mods. Brew also has an image of a native American with his profile. I am sure that someone could take offense to that. I am also certain that Brew means no offense. I have to believe that Brew would appreciate an offended party reaching out to him directly to share their concerns, versus contacting a moderator, or making a public statement full of wrong assumptions about him.
Live and learn.
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I was talking about TallTitan, but now there's this Brew guy I need to worry about too?? Arrrg this is becoming too much. I think I need to start a thread letting everyone know that I'm leaving and never coming back ever!
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I was talking about TallTitan, but now there's this Brew guy I need to worry about too?? Arrrg this is becoming too much. I think I need to start a thread letting everyone know that I'm leaving and never coming back ever!
Brew was the first to go. TT, in fairness, made a bigger public stink on scoop. Brew did his complaining first with Scoop mods, then publicly on BCB. No big deal.
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This board must be far superior to the Vadger forums. Can you imaging Red Foreskin ever being embarrassed by anything posted on HIS board?
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This past season was obviously very frustrating to say the least. The irony, looking back at the original post, is that it's quite possible the coach at that time wasn't giving the team his best effort knowing he was probably going elsewhere at the end of the season.
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I was talking about TallTitan, but now there's this Brew guy I need to worry about too?? Arrrg this is becoming too much. I think I need to start a thread letting everyone know that I'm leaving and never coming back ever!
don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
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Brew was the first to go. TT, in fairness, made a bigger public stink on scoop. Brew did his complaining first with Scoop mods, then publicly on BCB. No big deal.
Brew wasn't pissed off about my avatar; that was a red herring. He didn't like people poking at his pomposity and presumed knowledge about basketball. In the end, he ran away bitching like a school girl.
The ultimate irony is that he now pontificates on Ganzer's site. I thought his opinions were ill-informed and questionable when I could read them for free. The thought of paying Ganzer for the privilege of Brew's unique perspective, probing analysis, and wry wit is beyond laughable. I can get my daily dose of uninformed opinion right here.