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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mugrad99 on September 14, 2012, 12:55:33 PM
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at Sak's in Indy. Was leaving for Italy shortly. Nice as always. He and Buzz still talk weekly.
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at Sak's in Indy. Was leaving for Italy shortly. Nice as always. He and Buzz still talk weekly.
I loved DJ when he was here. I thought that a lot of fans were way too tough on him--expected a little too much after his freshman season. Did pretty much everything well for a college pg, except hit the outside shot (much like Cordell half a decade before him).
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Cordell was a pretty good shooter, and seemed to have progressed steadily from freshman yr to senior yr.
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Wait, since today is Friday and this weekend is starting now...these events occur in the future?
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ZFB would like to learn more about this place of which you speak - "Sak's"
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Cordell was a pretty good shooter, and seemed to have progressed steadily from freshman yr to senior yr.
Will never, ever forget the moment @ home vs. Cincy (01-02 season maybe?). Huge game, think Cincy was Top 10 at the time. Cordell hit a dagger 3 and made a ripped-their-heart-out motion after hitting the shot and Cincy called a T and the place went bonkers. Anybody else shed exact details about that game?
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Will never, ever forget the moment @ home vs. Cincy (01-02 season maybe?). Huge game, think Cincy was Top 10 at the time. Cordell hit a dagger 3 and made a ripped-their-heart-out motion after hitting the shot and Cincy called a T and the place went bonkers. Anybody else shed exact details about that game?
01-02 was right. Cincy was #4 and on a 20 game winning streak. First sellout at the BC in many years. Wade got into foul trouble in the first half, but MU kept a slim lead. He took over in the second, and Henry's three was deep from the wing, with the shot clock running down. MU ended up winning by 14.
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Will never, ever forget the moment @ home vs. Cincy (01-02 season maybe?). Huge game, think Cincy was Top 10 at the time. Cordell hit a dagger 3 and made a ripped-their-heart-out motion after hitting the shot and Cincy called a T and the place went bonkers. Anybody else shed exact details about that game?
Actually, he ran back after the three and made a "slitting their throat" motion. Cordell had to write a letter of apology for the gesture that went to Cincy.
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Was he bagging groceries?
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Was he bagging groceries?
The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
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It still kills me how some people still criticize Dominic. 4th leading scorer in MU history, 2nd in career assists and 4th in career steals and what most people overlook is that, as a freshman, he quarterbacked that Marquette team to an NCAA berth after two consecutive NIT berths and really helped right the ship at Marquette.
I've said this many times. A friend of mine who started on the Sweet 16 team for Marquette in the mid 50's contends Dominic is the best on the ball defender he's ever seen at Marquette and people forget how he helped to lock up the opposing point guard throughout his MU career.
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The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
In case you missed this, it's ok to not be good at basketball.
http://youtu.be/G40g9RTxurw (http://youtu.be/G40g9RTxurw)
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It still kills me how some people still criticize Dominic. 4th leading scorer in MU history, 2nd in career assists and 4th in career steals and what most people overlook is that, as a freshman, he quarterbacked that Marquette team to an NCAA berth after two consecutive NIT berths and really helped right the ship at Marquette.
I've said this many times. A friend of mine who started on the Sweet 16 team for Marquette in the mid 50's contends Dominic is the best on the ball defender he's ever seen at Marquette and people forget how he helped to lock up the opposing point guard throughout his MU career.
Good kid, polite, great player, determined, killer defender... and the lynchpin for what MU is today in the world of college basketball.
Substitute James' MU career with an average PG, and bagging groceries might be more interesting than watching MUBB today.
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The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
My mouth is wide open. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread who have never won anything. They should all open their mouths, too. I'm not a fan of DJ, get over it. Also, no one answered my question, was he bagging groceries or not?
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The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
(http://rallymade.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/thumbs-up-chuck.gif)
My mouth is wide open. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread who have never won anything. They should all open their mouths, too. I'm not a fan of DJ, get over it. Also, no one answered my question, was he bagging groceries or not?
HAHAHAHA...I bet it is.
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HAHAHAHA...I bet it is.
Winner.
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Winner.
DJ was not.
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DJ played locked down D and a lot of talent. Hope the kid does well for himself.
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The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
Served.
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DJ was not.
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qnnc8/
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I'm not a fan of DJ, get over it.
Me neither. Horrible shooter (although better than Blue) and WAY too many mysterious injuries for my taste.
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Me neither. Horrible shooter (although better than Blue) and WAY too many mysterious injuries for my taste.
Mysterious injuries?
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My mouth is wide open. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread who have never won anything. They should all open their mouths, too. I'm not a fan of DJ, get over it. Also, no one answered my question, was he bagging groceries or not?
Honestly, did he do something to you while you were in school?
Not many people hate 4 year starters. Also, you have to respect James' determination to come back his senior year (post injury), right? That was impressive.
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Honestly, did he do something to you while you were in school?
Not many people hate 4 year starters. Also, you have to respect James' determination to come back his senior year (post injury), right? That was impressive.
Who said they hated him? Just calling a good college player a good college player.
As for his comeback game in the 09 Tourney against Mizzou...admirable, but ineffective.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010)
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Who said they hated him? Just calling a good college player a good college player.
As for his comeback game in the 09 Tourney against Mizzou...admirable, but ineffective.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010)
HIS FOOT WAS BROKEN.
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Who said they hated him? Just calling a good college player a good college player.
As for his comeback game in the 09 Tourney against Mizzou...admirable, but ineffective.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=294000010)
Implying that a former player (and MU graduate) is "Bagging Groceries" goes far beyond calling a good player a good player.
DJ was a very good college player. That's it. I don't think that deserves a "Bagging Groceries" comment.
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My mouth is wide open.
Then put your foot in it and shut up. He was a huge part of our success during those years and a class act. Provided the best highlights and clutch shooting since D-Wade and was the unquestioned leader of the program when Crean left. Sure he had some holes in his game, but that's a pretty low blow. Loser.
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Provided the best highlights and clutch shooting since D-Wade and was the unquestioned leader of the program when Crean left.
Clutch shooting? Really? NC State was a good highlight, but i wouldn't call him clutch. This is why the ball went to Jerry Mac at the end of games. And his highlights consist of a reverse ally-oop, which was sweet, but i wouldn't call it the best. He had a great verticle and showed it off against sub par competition. Unquestioned leader is funny, especially after Crean left. Also, calling me a loser may make you feel better, but it doesn't change the fact that James never lived up to his potential.
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Clutch shooting? Really? NC State was a good highlight, but i wouldn't call him clutch. This is why the ball went to Jerry Mac at the end of games. And his highlights consist of a reverse ally-oop, which was sweet, but i wouldn't call it the best. He had a great verticle and showed it off against sub par competition. Unquestioned leader is funny, especially after Crean left. Also, calling me a loser may make you feel better, but it doesn't change the fact that James never lived up to his potential.
He may not have professionally, but he was an outstanding player for Marquette. Look at that 2009 team. They were never the same after he went down. He may not have shot the ball well, but did everything else to help MU win games.
The amount of crap he got on here amazes me.
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Do grocery baggers have "backpack" 2nd half performances vs. Duke like Dominic had in the 2006 CBE?
Do grocery baggers make shots like Dominic's game winning 3 @ NC State?
Do I really have to go on?
The only thing I will never be able to rationalize was D-James' foul on Jonathan Wallace. Every other poor shot, bonehead play, stupid turnover, etc. he made can be attributed to "it happens to everyone"-type moments, aggressiveness or "right decision, poor execution". So IMO, only one time in a four-year career did the kid do something really, really stupid that may have cost the game. But guess what... he won at least the two games for MU cited above.
Sorry, but if you don't think that the majority of MU fans would take offense to a Dominic James "bagging groceries" comment, then you certainly weren't paying attention from 2005-2009.
Besides, Dominic's interactions with the guy gave me reason to at least think I was going to be entertained when I saw Jim Burr walk on the court. Since DJ graduated, how many times have you seen a player put his arm around a ref (or vice versa) after he just committed a foul?
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Clutch shooting? Really? NC State was a good highlight, but i wouldn't call him clutch. This is why the ball went to Jerry Mac at the end of games. And his highlights consist of a reverse ally-oop, which was sweet, but i wouldn't call it the best. He had a great verticle and showed it off against sub par competition. Unquestioned leader is funny, especially after Crean left. Also, calling me a loser may make you feel better, but it doesn't change the fact that James never lived up to his potential.
So do you think Marquette would have been better off with out DJ? If so, who would you rather have out there running the show?
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To even debate value of DJ is crazy. Anyone that does not understand the value he brought to team flat out does not a thing about the game.
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it doesn't change the fact that James never lived up to his potential.
He was a very good college player and a 4 year starter.
If you demand more than that, you are going to dislike a lot of players.
He played his ass off and worked hard. Potential might not have been reached (in your mind), but it wasn't because he didn't work hard.
It sounds like you just don't like the guy (for whatever reason).
Also, not clutch in this game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiMnw05mDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiMnw05mDA)
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Also, not clutch in this game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiMnw05mDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiMnw05mDA)
Was that home video or a clip of Hoosiers on Betamax?
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I truly don't understand the defensiveness. Perhaps the grocery comment was over the top, but to claim James was beyond reproach is silly. He WAS a great defensive player and was very athletic. Thats basically it as far as I'm concerned. He was a very good college player, one who IMO was very frustrating to watch and difficult to warm up to for whatever reason. Some of you react like your mother is being insulted.
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18 straight against Valpo. Best on-ball defender I have seen at MU. Prone to cramps early in his career. Ironically, his last made shot, a couple of possessions before he broke his foot, was a 3pt basket where he exhibited near-perfect form. A player that probably would have developed a more complete game under Buzz than under Crean. His senior year, he finally was playing the point, instead of being the most athletic small guy on the floor. A leader, a warrior, and I appreciate all he brought to the table during his time at MU. And remember, that team was #8 in the country when he broke his foot. He stays healthy.......
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He stays healthy.......
/Goes undrafted
//Bags groceries
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He stays healthy, that team goes deep. Playing for 6 figure$ in Europe is not bagging groceries.
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/Goes undrafted
//Bags groceries
///Still has a highlight I'll never forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aVbxKf1WM&playnext=1&list=PL3F965A99C15D2F1D&feature=results_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aVbxKf1WM&playnext=1&list=PL3F965A99C15D2F1D&feature=results_video)
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///Still has a highlight I'll never forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aVbxKf1WM&playnext=1&list=PL3F965A99C15D2F1D&feature=results_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aVbxKf1WM&playnext=1&list=PL3F965A99C15D2F1D&feature=results_video)
That was awesome!!! Forgot about that. A lot of NBA/Europe pros for MU in that game.
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That was awesome!!! Forgot about that. A lot of NBA/Europe pros for MU in that game.
Not quite enough to pull out a W
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I truly don't understand the defensiveness. Perhaps the grocery comment was over the top...
Yep.
People don't have to love him. But, let's not disparage him and pretend like he wasn't good.
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18 straight against Valpo. Best on-ball defender I have seen at MU. Prone to cramps early in his career. Ironically, his last made shot, a couple of possessions before he broke his foot, was a 3pt basket where he exhibited near-perfect form. A player that probably would have developed a more complete game under Buzz than under Crean. His senior year, he finally was playing the point, instead of being the most athletic small guy on the floor. A leader, a warrior, and I appreciate all he brought to the table during his time at MU. And remember, that team was #8 in the country when he broke his foot. He stays healthy.......
Agree with everything here.
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My mouth is wide open.
With a big, fat c0ck in it.
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Ridiculous to imply DJ wasn't a good player in his time at MU. He was a program great! The issue, I believe, is that he was SO GOOD as a freshman, people's hopes got sky high, and his performance leveled off or perhaps even regressed sophomore/junior year. Nonetheless, the guy was a great player during his time at MU.
Interestingly enough, I feel Vander Blue was SO GOOD as a junior in high school in leading Maymon's team to a state championship, that the bar for Vander after his junior year was set so high - it was going to be hard to exceed his junior year performance. His Senior year at Memorial was just okay - not even voted player of the year in WI. He's been a work in progress at MU. Has all of the athletic tools necessary - just hope he can put together the rest of his game - as I feel like Dominic, he's battled confidence problems in his game. Vander's late season free throw shooting gives me hope his confidence is back...and that could translate into some great things for Vander and MU.
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Uh, Saks 5th Avenue...the store. He was shopping, for suits I believe. He was leaving for Italy shortly to play for an A league team.
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I truly don't understand the defensiveness. Perhaps the grocery comment was over the top, but to claim James was beyond reproach is silly. He WAS a great defensive player and was very athletic. Thats basically it as far as I'm concerned. He was a very good college player, one who IMO was very frustrating to watch and difficult to warm up to for whatever reason. Some of you react like your mother is being insulted.
Yes.... it was over the top, just like the following line:
I feel sorry for your mother knowing she birthed a child who wouldn't stand up for her.
Now then, the previous line is not to be taken seriously, because I don't know your mother and I don't know you. Regardless, it's an inappropriate thing to say, just like it's inappropriate to imply that Dominic is "bagging groceries," especially given that - although I'm 99% sure this wasn't the intent or even a consideration - implying a black college graduate who is relegated to such a vocation could be misconstrued by someone to have a slight racial overtone.
In any event... next time, just say you're not a fan, you think he could/should have been better, and/or DJ's recruitment was nothing more than Crean lobbying for the IU job, and leave it at that. Don't disparage a fellow MU alum, and don't stand up for people that do.
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Was he bagging groceries?
The day you are as successful at anything as James is as basketball, is the day you can make that joke. Until that day comes, shut your mouth.
(http://i.imgur.com/wCKjs.gif)
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Wadesworld, funny... a recycled joke late in the thread. Nice originality. To say those teams didn't underachieved is a joke. Granted, Tommy C was at the helm for three of them, but they underachieved none the less. Championships make winners, not fuzzy memories. They couldn't make it out of the second round. And let's not forget that Michigan State game. He did a good job against Valpo, outstanding. Beating Valpo is like being the prettiest girl in fat camp. Although he did graduate, which I do commend him on, as I think it looks bad when collegiate athletes don't graduate.
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And Benny B, your the one who brought up the racial overtone. Why would your mind even go there. Kurt Warner used to bag groceries, and he was a white college graduate. What you brought up is more ridiculous than my valid opinion.
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And Benny B, your the one who brought up the racial overtone. Why would your mind even go there. Kurt Warner used to bag groceries, and he was a white college graduate. What you brought up is more ridiculous than my valid opinion.
The comm majors may have a specific term for that, but I call that "crossing the bridge to the other side."
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You dont get more traditional than Kurt Warner
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Wadesworld, funny... a recycled joke late in the thread. Nice originality. To say those teams didn't underachieved is a joke. Granted, Tommy C was at the helm for three of them, but they underachieved none the less. Championships make winners, not fuzzy memories. They couldn't make it out of the second round. And let's not forget that Michigan State game. He did a good job against Valpo, outstanding. Beating Valpo is like being the prettiest girl in fat camp. Although he did graduate, which I do commend him on, as I think it looks bad when collegiate athletes don't graduate.
I'm sorry, I just don't understand your beef.
McNeal won the same amount. Same with Matthews. Do you think they are bagging groceries too? How about Ousmane?
Is winning your sole evaluation for if you like a player?
Oh, and the Valpo thing was just in response to the idea that he wasn't clutch. He made some big shots in his career.
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There are quite a few MU fans who don't like DJ because he never became the All-American and lottery pick that some (unfairly) projected him to be after his freshman season. It's similar to how many MU fans dislike Blue because he didn't dominate from day 1.
What's funny is if Cadougan puts up 11 points, 5 assists, 3 boards, 2 steals and shoots just 28.4% from 3 as a senior (same as DJ), some of those same fans would be singing his praises.
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There are quite a few MU fans who don't like DJ because he never became the All-American and lottery pick that some (unfairly) projected him to be after his freshman season. It's similar to how many MU fans dislike Blue because he didn't dominate from day 1.
What's funny is if Cadougan puts up 11 points, 5 assists, 3 boards, 2 steals and shoots just 28.4% from 3 as a senior (same as DJ), some of those same fans would be singing his praises.
Just don't get it as well. For me, the proof was what happened to the team when he hurt his foot his senior year. We were not the same team without him. Period.
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Oh, and he was heavily recruited by ND too. He picked us. ;D Nah, nah, nah, nah naaaah na.
Yes, I have too much free time today at lunch. ;)
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Agree with everything here.
As do I. And a great guy too.
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Was he bagging groceries?
Dominic finally became a hero.
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Dominic finally became a hero.
How....
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There are quite a few MU fans who don't like DJ because he never became the All-American and lottery pick that some (unfairly) projected him to be after his freshman season. It's similar to how many MU fans dislike Blue because he didn't dominate from day 1.
And that same sentiment is already being projected on the incoming recruiting class. Yet.... none of Wojo's recruiting classes have played up to expectation. Typically, false hope is a symptom of a lack of knowledge/perception.
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And that same sentiment is already being projected on the incoming recruiting class. Yet.... none of Wojo's recruiting classes have played up to expectation. Typically, false hope is a symptom of a lack of knowledge/perception.
I don't think there's been a single person who's said they expect anyone (much less all) from the class of 2020 to become an All American and lottery pick.
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I don't think there's been a single person who's said they expect anyone (much less all) from the class of 2020 to become an All American and lottery pick.
If you thought Dominic James was going to be a lottery pick then you probably are a ProWojer.
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Dominic James was a Marquette great but I think fans (me included) are frustrated because
a) he didn't get better year on year (stats - wise)
b) he never learned to shoot. Career .405 shooter, .286 from 3 and 62% free throws
As a freshman, I was 100% convinced he would be the next Allen Iverson... if he learned to shoot. He had the athleticism, the confidence, and he played better D than AI ever did. (AI had more steals, but James was a great on-ball defender). His problem was inconsistent form mainly caused by over-jumping on his shot. it seemed that every time he jumped he had to jump as high as he possibly could, so every shot was off balance. I don't know why Crean couldn't coach this out of him... maybe I should be disappointed with Crean and not James...
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If you thought Dominic James was going to be a lottery pick then you probably are a ProWojer.
Shifting the goalposts already. Good idea.
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Dominic finally became a hero.
Ha wow, resurrecting a thread from 2012 to get a current-events themed shot in at a quality former player? Quarantine fever!
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And that same sentiment is already being projected on the incoming recruiting class. Yet.... none of Wojo's recruiting classes have played up to expectation. Typically, false hope is a symptom of a lack of knowledge/perception.
Henry Ellenson was projected to be a one and done, and he was. While I would rank that overall class as average at best, Henry lived up to expectations for his freshman year.
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Dominic James was a Marquette great but I think fans (me included) are frustrated because
a) he didn't get better year on year (stats - wise)
b) he never learned to shoot. Career .405 shooter, .286 from 3 and 62% free throws
As a freshman, I was 100% convinced he would be the next Allen Iverson... if he learned to shoot. He had the athleticism, the confidence, and he played better D than AI ever did. (AI had more steals, but James was a great on-ball defender). His problem was inconsistent form mainly caused by over-jumping on his shot. it seemed that every time he jumped he had to jump as high as he possibly could, so every shot was off balance. I don't know why Crean couldn't coach this out of him... maybe I should be disappointed with Crean and not James...
DJ changed as a person after his freshman year. His ego grew out of control. He decided he could do things his way. It's not an indictment on DJ but something not uncommon with high level athletes. A buddy coached Vander on the U17 team and tried to get Vander's jumper changed, it was so bad. Vander's excuse was "I made this team, I don't need to do s--t." DJ adopted the same attitude. His FT and 3 point percentages dropped throughout his college career.
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DJ changed as a person after his freshman year. His ego grew out of control. He decided he could do things his way. It's not an indictment on DJ but something not uncommon with high level athletes. A buddy coached Vander on the U17 team and tried to get Vander's jumper changed, it was so bad. Vander's excuse was "I made this team, I don't need to do s--t." DJ adopted the same attitude. His FT and 3 point percentages dropped throughout his college career.
Well, Vander did change his jumper between his sophomore and junior season. He eventually listened.
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Dominic finally became a hero.
Why you hoopin?
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DJ changed as a person after his freshman year. His ego grew out of control. He decided he could do things his way. It's not an indictment on DJ but something not uncommon with high level athletes. A buddy coached Vander on the U17 team and tried to get Vander's jumper changed, it was so bad. Vander's excuse was "I made this team, I don't need to do s--t." DJ adopted the same attitude. His FT and 3 point percentages dropped throughout his college career.
Absolutely 100% dead wrong.
DJ worked with different shooting coaches/gurus. He knew he had to become a far better shooter to reach his ultimate goal. Just because u are a great athlete or practice a lot doenst make one a great shooter. I guarantee there are thousands of guys that shot more jump shots than Steve Novak or Larry Bird, yet could never shoot like them.
Additionally, watch Vanders form and percentages over his three years. Form transformed n percentage went way up.
U are full of crap. Eerily like Chicos taking a BS assumption and stating it as fact because someone “important” that u know said it. Its a shame the board cannot ever be rid of this sociopath.
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Absolutely 100% dead wrong.
DJ worked with different shooting coaches/gurus. He knew he had to become a far better shooter to reach his ultimate goal. Just because u are a great athlete or practice a lot doenst make one a great shooter. I guarantee there are thousands of guys that shot more jump shots than Steve Novak or Larry Bird, yet could never shoot like them.
Additionally, watch Vanders form and percentages over his three years. Form transformed n percentage went way up.
U are full of crap. Eerily like Chicos taking a BS assumption and stating it as fact because someone “important” that u know said it. Its a shame the board cannot ever be rid of this sociopath.
Just because Vander EVENTUALLY changed his form after years of refusing, including telling the U17 coach and eventual NBA GM 'nah, I'm good" doesn't make anyone full of crap. It just seems some people are threatened when others challenge their world view and have to resort to childish name-calling. Sad.
And if DJ did indeed hire shooting coaches I hope he didn't pay.
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Just because Vander EVENTUALLY changed his form after years of refusing, including telling the U17 coach and eventual NBA GM 'nah, I'm good" doesn't make anyone full of crap. It just seems some people are threatened when others challenge their world view and have to resort to childish name-calling. Sad.
And if DJ did indeed hire shooting coaches I hope he didn't pay.
So Vander thinking he was too good to change his shooting form is why we don’t want kids like him at MU?
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at Sak's in Indy. Was leaving for Italy shortly. Nice as always. He and Buzz still talk weekly.
Friends of mine ran into Jimmy B in France last summer. he also said he talks to Buzz "all the time".
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My mouth is wide open. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this thread who have never won anything. They should all open their mouths, too. I'm not a fan of DJ, get over it. Also, no one answered my question, was he bagging groceries or not?
Cheap comment.
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The slander on Dominic James by our own fans is one I will never understand. And the fact that bubba quoted his own stupid comment 8 years later tells me all I need to know about his character.
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Dominic James was a Marquette great but I think fans (me included) are frustrated because
a) he didn't get better year on year (stats - wise)
b) he never learned to shoot. Career .405 shooter, .286 from 3 and 62% free throws
As a freshman, I was 100% convinced he would be the next Allen Iverson... if he learned to shoot. He had the athleticism, the confidence, and he played better D than AI ever did. (AI had more steals, but James was a great on-ball defender). His problem was inconsistent form mainly caused by over-jumping on his shot. it seemed that every time he jumped he had to jump as high as he possibly could, so every shot was off balance. I don't know why Crean couldn't coach this out of him... maybe I should be disappointed with Crean and not James...
I remembered his shot being broken. But did not remember 46% FT his senior season over 28 games.
Dominic was a hell of a lot of fun to watch play
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DJ was one of my favorite players at MU. OMG his athleticism was a sight to see.....”the gospel according to James”. See the MU vs Tennessee game for that particular reference. I truly think one of the major reasons McNeal got as many steals as he did wAs directly related to James playing some of the best on ball defense I’ve seen. I remember him shutting opposing guards down to very minimal points and assists...well below their average. I recall him doing that to Wisconsin and Villanova in particular. As a matter of fact, I remember the Wisconsin guard being so frustrated with James that he pushed him as James was so close he could have kissed him. After a James got pushed he simply smiled as he got the call. If anyone’s got a clip of that, I’d love to see that again.
I’m convinced he would’ve been a valuable asset on any NBA team. I am totally convinced of that and I’m still baffled he wasn’t drafted. I don’t disagree with his shooting. Point taken. I would’ve had him work on developing a better shot if drafted. Then until his shot improved I’d have him drive,
Distribute and D up. He was fun to watch. Cocky? Yes, and I loved it. Thought it was exactly what we needed having such a young team that inaugural year in the Big East. Remember the guy from Pitt shoving James into the press table his Freshman year? Man, he frustrated opposing players......blowing by them, getting in their grill on D, dunking over them, etc......Damn I loved watching him play.
For what it’s worth, there were a few games where he couldn’t miss....West Virginia at the Bradley Center comes to mind......but then again I believe we were doing wine at nine so by the time the game rolled around, I might have been a little drunk.
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I’m convinced he would’ve been a valuable asset on any NBA team. I am totally convinced of that and I’m still baffled he wasn’t
When you are that small and an inconsistent shooter, it really isn't that hard to figure out.
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That’s where I think people got it wrong. I couldn’t give a crap about his height. I think people, not you, make these stupid assumptions like if he’s short he can’t play in the NBA.....sort of like tall kids shouldn’t be shooting from outside - now it’s more accepted as finally some have come to their senses. WAsnt like that when I was younger. Again, it’s my opinion, but I think he would’ve contributed quite a bit in the NBA, despite his lack of height.......again, “The gospel according to James”!
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The slander on Dominic James by our own fans is one I will never understand. And the fact that bubba quoted his own stupid comment 8 years later tells me all I need to know about his character.
Marquette Basketball: Character Revealed
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That’s where I think people got it wrong. I couldn’t give a crap about his height. I think people, not you, make these stupid assumptions like if he’s short he can’t play in the NBA.....sort of like tall kids shouldn’t be shooting from outside - now it’s more accepted as finally some have come to their senses. WAsnt like that when I was younger. Again, it’s my opinion, but I think he would’ve contributed quite a bit in the NBA, despite his lack of height.......again, “The gospel according to James”!
You may not give a crap. NBA GMs do. And for good reason. Players shorter than six feet struggle.
He was given a chance in summer leagues. And didn’t make it. No shame in that.
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You may not give a crap. NBA GMs do. And for good reason. Players shorter than six feet struggle.
He was given a chance in summer leagues. And didn’t make it. No shame in that.
Koby McEwen is the new Dominic James.
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Koby McEwen is the new Dominic James.
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I loved DJ. I agree with what Frenn says about his college career. I just understand why he never made the NBA.
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Koby McEwen is the new Dominic James.
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No.
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Koby McEwen is the new Dominic James.
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Nope
James a much better passer and driver to the hoop.
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Nope
James a much better passer and driver to the hoop.
Also a 1000x better ball handler and defender. Maybe tge best defender ive ever seen at MU
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Also a 1000x better ball handler and defender. Maybe tge best defender ive ever seen at MU
Best Defender?
I might have to go back and watch tape. That's a lofty title considering you have Crowder, Butler, Wade, McIlvaine, etc in the mix.
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Just because Vander EVENTUALLY changed his form after years of refusing, including telling the U17 coach and eventual NBA GM 'nah, I'm good" doesn't make anyone full of crap. It just seems some people are threatened when others challenge their world view and have to resort to childish name-calling. Sad.
And if DJ did indeed hire shooting coaches I hope he didn't pay.
Well according to you he was cocky and dudnt feel he needed to, so which is it? Ya dont know Sh!t. You come on here lije some arrogant smug ahole talkin about kids being cocky n not thinking they need to improve. You were 0 for 2. F off Sybil
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Best Defender?
I might have to go back and watch tape. That's a lofty title considering you have Crowder, Butler, Wade, McIlvaine, etc in the mix.
Better than Butler or Crowder. Jim was a great shot blocker apart from that not greatly mobile but hard to understate his rim protection. Wade was a great athlete n had great defensive ability. DJs great ability as PG was to completely shut down n stay infront if his man with great lateral quickness and strength. Part of the reason jerel had so many steals ( as did others) was because tgey could get up into passing lanes n not be concerned about sagging to help stop dribble penetration, DJ had that covered. He didnt always get the steal but he caused them. As others stated he physically n mentally wore opposing PGs out
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Also a 1000x better ball handler and defender. Maybe tge best defender ive ever seen at MU
Great defender, but I think at the end at least, not quite JFB. The job Jimmy did on Tu Holloway in the NCAAs stands out above all for me - made him a first round draft choice.
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The NBA comp in the same era is Nate Robinson. Equally athletic, maybe even advantage to DJ. Nate a little shorter but also well built. Nate shot .348 from 3 at Washington and .360 in the NBA. DJ might even have been a better on-ball defender, but Nate was also tenacious and gutsy and athletic. Can't shoot, don't play in the league.
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DJ (and vander), both floated way too much on their jump shots. Got lots of height, but inconsistent release points. If you remember Jerel by his senior year, barely jumped on his 3 point attempts. If DJ was around now, he would study Markus to see how he got separation and didn’t need as much bounce.
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Great defender, but I think at the end at least, not quite JFB. The job Jimmy did on Tu Holloway in the NCAAs stands out above all for me - made him a first round draft choice.
DJ’s on the ball defense his senior season was the best I’ve ever seen... it was stifling. The opposing guard could rarely even move given how amazing his lateral quickness was.
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DJ’s on the ball defense his senior season was the best I’ve ever seen... it was stifling. The opposing guard could rarely even move given how amazing his lateral quickness was.
This.
And when you consider he was guarding the most important position on the floor it rightly puts him near (if not at) the top of the best defender rankings.