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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: ATWizJr on June 17, 2012, 06:06:57 AM
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That is Nunnsense and a complete Nunnstarter.
As you state, coming from posters like you but you seem to only want to level your charges against one person. Maybe the many are right, as the tin foil hat poll suggested, and the doomsday crowd should dial back the cataclysmic predictions they harbor.
Here's what you don't get: no one is hoping for cataclysm; many are concerned for the program.
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Here's what you don't get: no one is hoping for cataclysm; many are concerned for the program.
I believe we all get it without any trouble. Did anyone here say they are hoping for cataclysm? On this we agree because no one has said that from the messages I have read.
Despite not hoping for it to happen, it is constant predictions of a drop in the program that you don't get. Predictions based on nothing tangible in reality. Wild stories about Pilarz and Williams wanting to destroy the program or bring it down a peg. Be concerned, that is your right but don't be surprised if you are labeled as a chicken little running around with those concerns are unfounded and based on nothing but spooky chatter on a message board.
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Squirmy, for sure.
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Wild stories about Pilarz and Williams wanting to destroy the program
Please cite some of these wild stories about Pilarz and Williams "wanting to destroy the program".
You sometimes wonder out loud why so many people pick on you. Use this example as Exhibit A.
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I believe we all get it without any trouble. Did anyone here say they are hoping for cataclysm? On this we agree because no one has said that from the messages I have read.
Despite not hoping for it to happen, it is constant predictions of a drop in the program that you don't get. Predictions based on nothing tangible in reality. Wild stories about Pilarz and Williams wanting to destroy the program or bring it down a peg. Be concerned, that is your right but don't be surprised if you are labeled as a chicken little running around with those concerns are unfounded and based on nothing but spooky chatter on a message board.
Like I said, you don't get it. Everyone agrees that each of us has a right to state our opinion. The problem arises when you label people who disagree with you as "chicken littles and tin foil hat wearers".
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Hoopaloop vs. Chicken Little
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Like I said, you don't get it. Everyone agrees that each of us has a right to state our opinion. The problem arises when you label people who disagree with you as "chicken littles and tin foil hat wearers".
Based on the poll results here, I'm in the majority that thinks you guys are way overboard with the Reynolds wrap.
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Please cite some of these wild stories about Pilarz and Williams "wanting to destroy the program".
You sometimes wonder out loud why so many people pick on you. Use this example as Exhibit A.
I don't feel like anyone is picking on me. I know you try to pick on several posters here, some not even present any longer, but I am not feeling picked on.
Some examples you requested,
We have AtWiz saying LW was promoted beyond his capabilities and is hoping his on the job training doesn't drive Buzz out of the program. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.2750
We have Mr. Muskie saying that the administration would like to take us back to the Pre-Crean era to keep us off the front page of the Tribune.
We have Ners saying the new administration smells like the DiUlio regime and will take us back to the stone ages
We have Dr. Blackheart saying new ND guy has an agenda and how he was rebuffed (certainly by the ners letter writing campaign ::) ) along with a complete conspiracy theory on what went down. ND guy is now weakened. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983
MUguru saying to remove the cancer (LW) before it spreads and destroys the program
That's just for starters in just two threads in only a few post examinations.
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Based on the poll results here, I'm in the majority that thinks you guys are way overboard with the Reynolds wrap.
Yes, because undoubtedly an anonymous Internet poll is definitive ::)
When the actual posters that voice their opinions are outshouting you 5-to-1, and even the rest of the tin-foil hat calling crowd has come to see sense and STFU, I don't see why you have to be the lone voice carrying this torch into the darkness. It was old and tired a month ago. Then again, you carrying on old and tired arguments is par for the course, I guess.
You are the only one still carrying on about this. The only other people that discuss this are responding to you. Don't you realize that maybe if YOU stopped belaboring it, the whole thing would go away? You are the sole reason for this continued discussion you are ranting against. That you are dragging up posts from 2 months ago is only further evidence that this topic would be dead, if only you wouldn't keep resurrecting it.
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Awesome thread regarding Nunn's visit...
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I don't feel like anyone is picking on me. I know you try to pick on several posters here, some not even present any longer, but I am not feeling picked on.
Some examples you requested,
We have AtWiz saying LW was promoted beyond his capabilities and is hoping his on the job training doesn't drive Buzz out of the program. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.2750
We have Mr. Muskie saying that the administration would like to take us back to the Pre-Crean era to keep us off the front page of the Tribune.
We have Ners saying the new administration smells like the DiUlio regime and will take us back to the stone ages
We have Dr. Blackheart saying new ND guy has an agenda and how he was rebuffed (certainly by the ners letter writing campaign ::) ) along with a complete conspiracy theory on what went down. ND guy is now weakened. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983
MUguru saying to remove the cancer (LW) before it spreads and destroys the program
That's just for starters in just two threads in only a few post examinations.
You are misquoting me. I said it was stupid to call the coach out in public. Which it is. Try reporting the facts and not making things up to support your fantasy argument which is old, tired, and at this point, irrelevant. Which really is the problem, isn't it?
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I don't feel like anyone is picking on me. I know you try to pick on several posters here, some not even present any longer, but I am not feeling picked on.
Some examples you requested,
We have AtWiz saying LW was promoted beyond his capabilities and is hoping his on the job training doesn't drive Buzz out of the program. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.2750
We have Mr. Muskie saying that the administration would like to take us back to the Pre-Crean era to keep us off the front page of the Tribune.
We have Ners saying the new administration smells like the DiUlio regime and will take us back to the stone ages
We have Dr. Blackheart saying new ND guy has an agenda and how he was rebuffed (certainly by the ners letter writing campaign ::) ) along with a complete conspiracy theory on what went down. ND guy is now weakened. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983
MUguru saying to remove the cancer (LW) before it spreads and destroys the program
That's just for starters in just two threads in only a few post examinations.
I'll only comment on the two posters you actually quoted and leave your heresay statements out. I encourage everyone on the board to read Dr Blackheart's and AtWiz's posts and determine whether these are examples of "wild stories about Pilarz and Williams wanting to destroy the program". Any fair read dictates that such an interpretation is possible only in a very small and biased mind. And even that's a stretch.
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Thank you Chicos/Hoopaloop vs. (Insert name here) for thread jacking (again).
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Awesome thread regarding Nunn's visit...
Seriously
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Thanks for ruining another good thread. I find myself more on scout because of you guys.
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brewcityball is much better, actually keeps on point AND has good info. Who'd a thunk it
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Hoop just cannot let it die. Not sure if he thinks no one knows his stance or finds himself to be clever. Regardless he takes over the thread and makes it completely useless.
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Yes, because undoubtedly an anonymous Internet poll is definitive ::)
When the actual posters that voice their opinions are outshouting you 5-to-1, and even the rest of the tin-foil hat calling crowd has come to see sense and STFU, I don't see why you have to be the lone voice carrying this torch into the darkness. It was old and tired a month ago. Then again, you carrying on old and tired arguments is par for the course, I guess.
You are the only one still carrying on about this. The only other people that discuss this are responding to you. Don't you realize that maybe if YOU stopped belaboring it, the whole thing would go away? You are the sole reason for this continued discussion you are ranting against. That you are dragging up posts from 2 months ago is only further evidence that this topic would be dead, if only you wouldn't keep resurrecting it.
The only one still caring about this? You must have a lot of people on ignore because you are missing a number of people still posting about this stuff daily. Ners did it again today on multiple occasions, maybe you don't think he counts. ;) The good news is that the latest 100+ post thread has finally led us to the root of the problem.
Ners, Lenny and a few others have a thing for Buzz and they don't like LW because he said something about Buzz they took offense to in the newspaper. That's what this is all coming down to. Fortunately we have some closure on the source of this.
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You are misquoting me. I said it was stupid to call the coach out in public. Which it is. Try reporting the facts and not making things up to support your fantasy argument which is old, tired, and at this point, irrelevant. Which really is the problem, isn't it?
I misquoted you? http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg386247#msg386247
"It was working fine til the AD dissed him in public. Praise in public, criticize in private. Even the least tactful person in a high profile position, like a BE AD should have acquired this basic skill. He has been promoted beyond his ability and I hope his OJT does not cost us the best coach we have had in years."
Here is the entire quote
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I'll only comment on the two posters you actually quoted and leave your heresay statements out. I encourage everyone on the board to read Dr Blackheart's and AtWiz's posts and determine whether these are examples of "wild stories about Pilarz and Williams wanting to destroy the program". Any fair read dictates that such an interpretation is possible only in a very small and biased mind. And even that's a stretch.
Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person that also believes LW did Buzz so wrong that only you and a small (very) and bias minded group also sees it. ;)
There are examples throughout this forum where people here were in a damn near panic about Buzz and SMU and what LW and Father Pilarz were doing to destroy the program. You can't walk it back, many posts and you know it. Full panic mode.
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This thread has gone far enough OT, why not...
Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person <snip>
Hoop, your backyard BBQ buddy chicos stopped by today with a new alias, "CBB". Maybe you were there when you posted saw his post. Anyhow, the forum software has some pretty advanced tracking features so I immediately clicked on the CBB alias to see if he was the real deal. It left no doubt it was chicos himself....
View IPs used by CBB
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Members possibly in the same range: ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, Hoopaloop
I don't suppose you'd care to explain why you show up in the same list as the guy you only met once for a beer? Or, you can keep throwing out the "Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person..." argument. That will distract people. ::)
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
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Does this mean Chicos and all his pseudonyms have been banned?
Also, thank you Rocky for confirming this. I don't post often, but I appreciate what you do.
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This thread has gone far enough OT, why not...
Hoop, your backyard BBQ buddy chicos stopped by today with a new alias, "CBB". Maybe you were there when you posted saw his post. Anyhow, the forum software has some pretty advanced tracking features so I immediately clicked on the CBB alias to see if he was the real deal. It left no doubt it was chicos himself....
I don't suppose you'd care to explain why you show up in the same list as the guy you only met once for a beer? Or, you can keep throwing out the "Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person..." argument. That will distract people. ::)
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
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Hoop=Chico's? Really!?!?! I actually Chico's better the alter ego Hoop was not as solid IMO.
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coalescence is your friend Chicos.
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My goodness. That is funny.
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This thread has gone far enough OT, why not...
Hoop, your backyard BBQ buddy chicos stopped by today with a new alias, "CBB". Maybe you were there when you posted saw his post. Anyhow, the forum software has some pretty advanced tracking features so I immediately clicked on the CBB alias to see if he was the real deal. It left no doubt it was chicos himself....
I don't suppose you'd care to explain why you show up in the same list as the guy you only met once for a beer? Or, you can keep throwing out the "Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person..." argument. That will distract people. ::)
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
HOLY SH*T I can't wait for the response! Hysterical! It takes some SERIOUSLY twisted mental faculties to make up that whole beer summit, brag about Chicos' charitable activities, the list goes on. This made my morning after Wade's championship last night thank you Rocky
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I think we should ban Ners this time too. And spiral97 for good measure.
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View IPs used by CBB
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Members possibly in the same range: ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, Hoopaloop
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
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Wish there was an editor to terminate topics when people drift way off the topic. This topic should be ended period.
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I think we should ban Ners this time too. And spiral97 for good measure.
Thanks Skat - But seriously, sorry if I've annoyed or offended you along the way...just give my opinions and share the little info I have...and have a hard time not getting into confrontations with a select few here who seem more intent on dissing the current head coach/program, than supporting...
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Thanks Skat - But seriously, sorry if I've annoyed or offended you along the way...just give my opinions and share the little info I have...and have a hard time not getting into confrontations with a select few here who seem more intent on dissing the current head coach/program, than supporting...
Just share your opinion a few times, no need to get it all over every thread on the board.
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Just share your opinion a few times, no need to get it all over every thread on the board.
I'll see what I can do - though I don't feel I post in probably more than 50% of threads on here. I just get heated at times within a few...and have to defend/support the few things I do know regarding the program...
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Thanks Skat - But seriously, sorry if I've annoyed or offended you along the way...just give my opinions and share the little info I have...and have a hard time not getting into confrontations with a select few here who seem more intent on dissing the current head coach/program, than supporting...
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZZ5LpwO-An4
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Woke up this morning and thought there was some news with Nunn. That was stupid. ::)
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I'll see what I can do - though I don't feel I post in probably more than 50% of threads on here. I just get heated at times within a few...and have to defend/support the few things I do know regarding the program...
I think that's all we would ask for.
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This thread has gone far enough OT, why not...
Hoop, your backyard BBQ buddy chicos stopped by today with a new alias, "CBB". Maybe you were there when you posted saw his post. Anyhow, the forum software has some pretty advanced tracking features so I immediately clicked on the CBB alias to see if he was the real deal. It left no doubt it was chicos himself....
I don't suppose you'd care to explain why you show up in the same list as the guy you only met once for a beer? Or, you can keep throwing out the "Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person..." argument. That will distract people. ::)
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
This just made my morning.
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All of this figuring out who CBB/Hoop is will really ease the mind of Kendrick during the recruiting process. I heard that Chew had to spend the entire text conversation on the first night of recruiting easing his mind that this would be resolved before he committed. Well, it happened Nunn too soon.
I expect him to commit early next week based on this development.
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This thread has gone far enough OT, why not...
Hoop, your backyard BBQ buddy chicos stopped by today with a new alias, "CBB". Maybe you were there when you posted saw his post. Anyhow, the forum software has some pretty advanced tracking features so I immediately clicked on the CBB alias to see if he was the real deal. It left no doubt it was chicos himself....
I don't suppose you'd care to explain why you show up in the same list as the guy you only met once for a beer? Or, you can keep throwing out the "Hard to take you seriously when you are the same person..." argument. That will distract people. ::)
p.s. - I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
LOL. I'm happy to answer what I can....what I can't...well, I won't be able to...a few other thoughts since you have given me an opportunity to respond...thank you. I also have a question for you at the end.
First, you are always welcome to have a beer at my house. I had to chuckle reading PRN and Warthog's drivel (where is Warthog by the way) about how odd it is to have a beer with someone they have never met. Those guys must not be very social or aren't in the business world. I've had plenty a beer with people here that I had never met...I even offered not long ago to you, Rocky, to have one with you next time I'm in Denver...even though we have never met. I hope we can still do that. What would be really cool is you and I having a beer while you bring a laptop and maybe we can have Hoopaloop post at the same time. Deal? MU Viking has been to my old home for a beer as have others on this very board, even though I had never met them prior. Prn and Warthog or anyone else is free to come by and talk the greatness of MU hoops. Welcome one, welcome all. Always have some on ice. Mi casa es su casa.
Second. I said here 5 years ago that I was not happy that we settled on Buzz Williams, thought we could do better and Buzz wasn't going anywhere..could have waited...but I also said he's the hire and I hope it works out. I'm thrilled it has. He's a joy to watch coach and I hope he is here for years to come. Still would like less JUCOs because they are only here 2 or 3 years, but that is a philosophical point of view. Go Marquette!
Finally, have you purchased your IU sweatshirt to pay off the bet yet? Are you still planning on reinstating me that day as you mentioned?
Now to the matter at hand and let me say thank you for letting me respond. Of course CBB is Chicos....I used the initials on purpose. I have nothing to hide and never have with my usernames here. Chicosbailbonds, Chicozbailbonds and CBB....that's it. Straight forward as it gets. The only reason I had to register the other two names (CBB and Chicozbaildbonds) was because the original one was banned. I registered yesterday because that thread was fantastic. The ners beatdown and watching him dig deeper and deeper was something to behold...good to see long after I'm gone he's still who he is. If I wanted to hide, Rocky, I would have registered under something different, but what's the point...I have nothing to hide. I almost registered last week when I saw Lenny's Peter Dinklage comment (a thread about Buzz and yet Lenny still commenting about me a year later that has nothing to do with Buzz...obsession). The irony is that I run the HBO business among other things here and have great respect for Peter. Fantastic guy, great actor, and can't wait to see him again. I know Tap was trying to be funny, but he should look in the mirror if he's trying to rip on someone for their appearance and behold the striking (almost identical) similarity between him and a certain person on trial in Pennslyvania right now. If that story hits the big screen, they've got the absolute look-a-like to play the role. I would recommend strongly that he stays away from that state for years to come...Friendly piece of advice.
Which now begs the next question...CBB, Chicosbailbonds, Chicozbailbonds, Hoopaloop....which one is not like the other? I have nothing to hide, always been consistent here. Hoopaloop isn't me...sorry.
Which now begs the next next question....how many posters here in the last few months have said I had hundreds of usernames here. I always knew those were false claims and your software seems to confirm that. I have registered 3 times...period....Chicos, Chicoz, and CBB...not 100's of times like Prn, Lenny and others stated. But I'll bet a search on some other names here would open some eyes about who truly does have multiple usernames active at the same time. I never have....when one got banned I created another very similar name, never two at the same time.
Which now begs the next next next question....I was banned sometime in May or June of last year, but Hoopaloop came a number of months prior to that. Sorry, not the same person unless my wife and I spoke to fictional people and I gave free Disney passes out to ghosts. In July and August I was in the hospital with my little girl recovering....there was no way I'm going to be on MU Scoop yet if I see Hoopaloop's posting history he sure was. Or this reality...I literally could not even get onto Scoop until November or December of last year until Hilltopper showed me how to change my settings on my browser to get in...I was blocked completely with the "you are banned message"...yet all along Hoopaloop seemed to be posting here without any issue during those months. How is this possible?
In March of this year I was actually at the MU-Florida game (last minute affair for me) with other MU fans (some that post here on Scoop) and they can verify the only time I was ever on my phone was to check in on Facebook and take a few pictures early in the game and at the end (the scoreboard).....yet I read here the next day or two that Hoopaloop was on all night during the game here, including the chat session. Impossible for me to do that. Literally, impossible and the people I were with can vouch for that. Incidentally, I have used chat before on Scoop...Hilltopper has allowed me in and I have to give him a codeword because so many people were logging in pretending to be me and he's had to kick them out. So I would log in, give him my code and he knew it was me and no kick. There were times Hoopaloop was on at the same time I was....how is that possible? Furthermore, your chat requires Adobe Flash which iPhones do not support...I have an iPhone... I was at the game in Arizona with my iPhone...chat impossible...Hoopaloop on chat and on Scoop while I'm in my seats watching the game with MU alumni....literally impossible to be the same person.
Rocky, now I have a question for you.....your note says "possible range". What exactly does that mean? A lot of things are possible, sounds like it's taking a guess and not very definitive. Does that mean when he was here if he tapped into my network it shows up one time as the same IP but never again? Does that mean if I ever logged into the Bradley Center with my 3G over the last 4 or 5 years when I've gone to a few games and he (or anyone else) logs into the Bradley Center in the last few years that they overlap? Does that mean if I log into the free wi-fiI at O-Hare, or MKE, or LAX, or any other airport over the years and your software captures Chicosbailbonds and associates that username with an IP but someone else goes through any of those airports and logs in on the same network it associates the IPs to them also? I don't know the answer.... I'm merely asking because I don't know. If I were at LAX logging in and ners was at LAX at a different time (different month, different time, different year), would the same IP association occur? Again, I don't know...that's why I am asking. Or is that why your software says "possible range"?
I do know who I am, I do know I've registered here 3 times with the same naming convention. I do know I am not Hoopaloop and if you saw the two of us standing next to each other you would laugh. Let's have that beer in Denver and let's invite Hoopaloop to post or open up a chat session concurrently...should be a good laugh for all of us. Wear that Indiana sweatshirt from the bet!
Peace...out.
Appreciate you letting me respond. Hoopaloop can answer on his own I'm sure.
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CBB's last ditch attempt to save his "Hoopaloop" account...
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Sultan
+1 I want Hoops to stay on board and bring back Chico's!!!! Where is Warthog? He was prominent player and suddenly gone.
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Long winded? Check. Filled with inanacurracies and/or outright lies? Check. Sprinkled with self important name dropping? Check. Welcome home, let the celebration begin!
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Lenny
Great post!!
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Where is Warthog? He was prominent player and suddenly gone.
He had a couple cryptic haikus awhile back, alluding to health problems. Hope he's alright.
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What's with all the begging?
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I do remember the health posts and hoped it was not the case. Hopefully Warthog is doing well.
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He left because Hoopaloop made the board unreadable.
Seriously, hope all is well with Warthog. His wit and wisdom are missed.
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Long winded? Check. Filled with inanacurracies and/or outright lies? Check. Sprinkled with self important name dropping? Check. Welcome home, let the celebration begin!
Inaccuracies and outright lies? Could you list them for me. Much appreciated. There are none and if you are going to make that claim, I wish you would back it up. Or are you referencing the separated at birth part....oh you know that one is especially true. LOL.
Another question to be begged....if I was Hoopaloop, why would I bother yesterday to register under CBB? Why not just continue under Hoopaloop? Why put myself at risk?
I, too, hope Warthog is doing ok.
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I blame Crean for this covuluted, contorted, pile of milorganite.
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View IPs used by CBB
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Members possibly in the same range: ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, Hoopaloop
Out of 6,074 members to choose from. It's a conspiracy by Simple Machines®, that's the only logical explanation! ::)
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Rocky, now I have a question for you.....your note says "possible range". What exactly does that mean? A lot of things are possible, sounds like it's taking a guess and not very definitive. Does that mean when he was here if he tapped into my network it shows up one time as the same IP but never again? Does that mean if I ever logged into the Bradley Center with my 3G over the last 4 or 5 years when I've gone to a few games and he (or anyone else) logs into the Bradley Center in the last few years that they overlap? Does that mean if I log into the free wi-fiI at O-Hare, or MKE, or LAX, or any other airport over the years and your software captures Chicosbailbonds and associates that username with an IP but someone else goes through any of those airports and logs in on the same network it associates the IPs to them also? I don't know the answer.... I'm merely asking because I don't know. If I were at LAX logging in and ners was at LAX at a different time (different month, different time, different year), would the same IP association occur? Again, I don't know...that's why I am asking. Or is that why your software says "possible range"?
Dumbest question ever. Unless you want us to think that every one of your 12,000 posts were made from different devices in different locations.
Internet Myth #1: The Internet is anonymous.
Fact: No matter how anonymous you think you are, you're not.
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We should ban everyone in this thread including myself. It's the only way.
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Can the title of this thread be changed?
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Dumbest question ever. Unless you want us to think that every one of your 12,000 posts were made from different devices in different locations.
Internet Myth #1: The Internet is anonymous.
Fact: No matter how anonymous you think you are, you're not.
betcha I can hide really well. ;)
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We should ban everyone in this thread including myself. It's the only way.
Can we just leave Hoopy active? He could read his own posts and argue with himself.
Or, to encourage a more spirited debate, could we allow only THREE posters - Hoopy, Chico's and CBB?
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This whole thing makes me squirm to the point of screaming like a girl.
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We're all being sucked in....
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Wait... buzz is going to SMU?
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Wait... buzz is going to SMU?
So...fishing, anyone...?
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So...fishing, anyone...?
Figured if every post was going to devolve into a Hoopaloop/chicos topic (my least favorite topic because, honestly, I don't give a sh*t who is who), I might as well bring in every other topic that pisses people off.
Can we just sticky a topic up top to talk about the hoop/cbb identity so it stops spilling into every friggin topic? Rules of the thread: if you think a post sounds like chicos, you copy it, post it in the thread and bitch about it there. Then, all other threads are clandestine and the 6 people that care can live in their fiefdom. Mods, I'm looking to you for this one...
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Sultan
+1 I want Hoops to stay on board and bring back Chico's!!!! Where is Warthog? He was prominent player and suddenly gone.
I was wondering the same thing. It's quiet without haikius.
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Guess it will only get worse now that the NBA is done!
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I was wondering the same thing. It's quiet without haikius.
From what I can remember he tends to post in spurts, then goes away for weeks at a time. I'm not sure if it is military related, but I'm guessing that it is.
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Wait, Chis and Hoop are the same person?! Shocking...
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As requested, I split this thread into a new one right at the point things went to complete hell. The original topic probably still has some garbage in it, but this should be good enough.
Warthog hasn't been banned in the past year, and to finally answer some questions, neither was willie warrior. Sometimes people (especially warthog randomly) seem to go on sabbatical...moreso when Marquette isn't playing any bball.
Chicos, I'll try to get back to you later this weekend (it's Friday night, no time to be doing 'scoop work), but the basic answer is, it's not just "possibly". I have theorized many times that you do know the guy that owns the 'hoop' account, and he lets you use it. At the very least, I do have proof that on at least 3 occasions you two (one of your aliases + hoop) have accessed scoop from the same IP address within minutes of each other.
And if you were both posting from an arena, I'd expect a few other names to come up.
Sorry, there may be 2 people, but something doesn't add up.
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Thanks, rocky! Top work :)
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So...fishing, anyone...?
Best damn post of this whole thread. ;D
SERIOUSLY, why do some of you FEED THE TROLL?
Rocky, pull the trigger. It's not funny anymore.
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Thanks, rocky! Top work :)
Rocky= teddy Roosevelt. Big stick.
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Rocky= teddy Roosevelt. Big stick.
Rocky is power hungry. His heavy-handed moderating is ruining the forums.
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If he's back, I can just ignore him in all of his incarnations.
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If he's back, I can just ignore him in all of his incarnations.
That too.
Rocky, pull the trigger.
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I am an EE, I love electrons. Mmmmmm power.
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Warthog is probably 1000' over someplace where none of us want to be right now... hopefully kicking the snot out of some militant fundamentalists.
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So now that it's pretty obvious that Hoop is Chicos, is it weird that we even care?
The scoop is a strange place.
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As requested, I split this thread into a new one right at the point things went to complete hell. The original topic probably still has some garbage in it, but this should be good enough.
Warthog hasn't been banned in the past year, and to finally answer some questions, neither was willie warrior. Sometimes people (especially warthog randomly) seem to go on sabbatical...moreso when Marquette isn't playing any bball.
Chicos, I'll try to get back to you later this weekend (it's Friday night, no time to be doing 'scoop work), but the basic answer is, it's not just "possibly". I have theorized many times that you do know the guy that owns the 'hoop' account, and he lets you use it. At the very least, I do have proof that on at least 3 occasions you two (one of your aliases + hoop) have accessed scoop from the same IP address within minutes of each other.
And if you were both posting from an arena, I'd expect a few other names to come up.
Sorry, there may be 2 people, but something doesn't add up.
Ghosts in the machine?
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I said I'd follow up with some evidence, this isn't the example I was speaking of, but is pretty damming...
IP address Poster Subject Date
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Next-level of Administration Support June 21, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: Any So Cal MU fans out there? March 22, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
147.21.X.X ChicosBailBonds Re: Pro Am Updates July 08, 2011, 06:57:56 PM
And lets see, that IP is owned by, oh, the Direct TV group...ChicosBailBonds had over 1600 posts from that IP address, nobody other than ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, CBB, and Hoopaloop ever used that specific IP.
NetRange: 147.21.0.0 - 147.21.255.255
CIDR: 147.21.0.0/16
OriginAS:
NetName: THE-DIRECTV-GROUP-INC
I'll add more as I find them.
Here's another. You failed to login (or accidentally had a browser cookie set) right before hoop posted...nobody else has ever used this IP address.
IP address Display name Message Date
X.31.29.206 Guest Sorry ChicosBailBonds, you are banned from using this forum!
Feel free to argue with people elsewhere
April 05, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
IP address Poster Subject Date
X.31.29.206 Hoopaloop Re: Weber to Kansas St. April 05, 2012, 03:44:30 PM
And again, access from a unique IP within a half hour. And nobody other than you "two" have used the IP
IP address Display name Message Date
X.31.29.217 Guest Sorry ChicosBailBonds, you are banned from using this forum!
Feel free to argue with people elsewhere
December 26, 2011, 08:27:44 PMIP address Poster Subject Date
X.31.29.217 Hoopaloop Re: Merry Christmas to my extended family - MUScoopers! December 26, 2011, 09:05:12 PM
X.31.29.217 Hoopaloop Re: Mac Irvin, 'Godfather' of Chicago basketball, dies December 26, 2011, 09:04:30 PM
X.31.29.217 Hoopaloop Re: Bilas' Top 68 December 26, 2011, 09:01:37 PM
X.31.29.217 Hoopaloop Re: Bilas' Top 68 December 26, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
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I said I'd follow up with some evidence, this isn't the example I was speaking of, but is pretty damming...
IP address Poster Subject Date
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Next-level of Administration Support June 21, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: Any So Cal MU fans out there? March 22, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
147.21.X.X ChicosBailBonds Re: Pro Am Updates July 08, 2011, 06:57:56 PM
And lets see, that IP is owned by, oh, the Direct TV group...ChicosBailBonds had over 1600 posts from that IP address, nobody other than ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, CBB, and Hoopaloop ever used that specific IP.
I'll add more as I find them.
In the land of law enforcement this is known as Computer Forensic Analysis. Good work CSI Rocky.....
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http://www.youtube.com/v/qPr-xsQvhgw
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Lmmfukkinao.
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IP address Poster Subject Date
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Nunn Visiting June 22, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
147.21.X.X CBB Re: Next-level of Administration Support June 21, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: Any So Cal MU fans out there? March 22, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
147.21.X.X Hoopaloop Re: AdamHogeCBS tweet March 22, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
147.21.X.X ChicosBailBonds Re: Pro Am Updates July 08, 2011, 06:57:56 PM
And lets see, that IP is owned by, oh, the Direct TV group...ChicosBailBonds had over 1600 posts from that IP address, nobody other than ChicosBailBonds, ChicoBailBondz, CBB, and Hoopaloop ever used that specific IP.
I'll add more as I find them.
But...but...but... Hughes Electronics/DirectTV employs over 25k people! Surely, there's a few MU alumni that work there.
Nice detectivation!
Here's a shiny new avatar:
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Having been on rocky's end of IP searches before, that's not a smoking gun, that's a smoking gun covered in fingerprints with 3 eye-witnesses and a video tape of the incident. The holiday beer meeting would explain one of those, but not 3 that are all months apart.
I didn't believe CBB and Hoop were the same guy. No longer. Unless they are roommates and co-workers at the same office branch, there's no logical explanation for that. Especially living 2,000 miles apart as "they" claim.
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Can we archive those posts in one area? When the board melts down after a loss, it would be nice to go to those for a little pick-me-up.
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The holiday beer meeting would explain one of those, but not 3 that are all months apart.
I'd agree, except those were all after the pre-Disney meeting according to Hoop's post (Nov 2011).
His love for Marquette hasn't changed as one visit to his house (we saw him earlier this year on the way to Disneyland) will attest.
There's probably more, but I stopped after I found those 3. Let me say though, I have no personal issues with Chicos, and as he mentioned, next time he has time in the Denver area I'd have a beer with him - we have talked about that privately. I think everyone knows he is a huge MU hoops fan, and was a valuable member here, and on the earliest MU forums practically since they've been around. However, in the past few years he's attracted negative attention on the forums like a lightening rod, and rather than ignoring it, seems to thrive on it and promote it. That makes the moderators jobs more difficult, and led to me banning him a little less than a year ago.
I don't want to rehash the debate of the (in/)correctness of that action. Just trying to clarify that it's not a personal thing, except I'll call him on it if I think he's trying to sneak around and pretend to be someone else. I also wouldn't normally make it as public, but as moderators sometimes we would need to delete chico's inflammatory posts, and he'd continue yelling about ghosts in the machine. I took that as his preference for all of this to be a public ceremony. So...there it is.
Chicos, hit me up for that beer when you're around. We'll share some stories too. Just don't try to post as r0cky_warrior :D
Oh, and yes, I'll still hold my end of the TC/Indiana bet. Not going to purchase any IU gear until the last minute, but I'll finally admit that it's looking like like I was wrong.
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I think everyone knows he is a huge MU hoops fan, and was a valuable member here
Dang it. Chicos has gotten into rocky's account now.
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Seriously, how narcissistic do you have to be to open a new account, and then use the new account to say things like "If his Facebook is any indication, he looks like he has an overload of friends."
I mean...my goodness.
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This'll teach me to ignore threads. WOW.
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I have theorized many times that you do know the guy that owns the 'hoop' account, and he lets you use it. At the very least, I do have proof that on at least 3 occasions you two (one of your aliases + hoop) have accessed scoop from the same IP address within minutes of each other.
This has been my theory from the beginning. (Not that I'm claiming it, it just seems obvious.)
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99% of the time, the simplest answer is the correct one. The only question here is which is the simpler scenario, Chicos creating an active backup account in case he was banned, or Hoop sharing his account info with Chicos. I guess it would depend on when CBB accessed Hoop's account. If the first time was the December after the beer summit, assuming CBB had already been banned, I'd guess the shared account. If it was before the November summit, it would seem to be one user with two accounts.
Either way, definitive evidence that at least at times, Hoop and Chicos were one in the same.
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"Does Hoopaloop even exist?"
Too old to recall from Phil 050 how to address this.
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IP address Display name Message Date
X.31.29.206 Guest Sorry ChicosBailBonds, you are banned from using this forum!
Feel free to argue with people elsewhere
I was unable to suppress a smile. I might have to make this my signature.
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"Does Hoopaloop even exist?"
Too old to recall from Phil 050 how to address this.
If Hoopaloop is banned in a forest, does it make a sound?
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If Hoopaloop is banned in a forest, does it make a sound?
Since we haven't heard a sound since this great detective work, does that mean that he, I mean, all of them, no just he has been banned? Or are they just assembling for a beer summit to discuss an appropriate response?
Seriously, just wondering if all of Chico's posting tree has been banned or he / they is / are just taking a break?
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No one has been banned recently.
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No one has been banned recently.
Thanks! The silence is deafening, isn't it?
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So help out a guy who's computer illiterate. On a number of occasions over the past year Chicos and Hoopaloop have posted from the same IP address within minutes of one another. Does this mean they're posting from the same computer? Different computers that are physically close by? Or something else? Thanks.
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Speaking of banning questions - Was Warthog banned or did he just go into hibernation?
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Same IP address = same computer, logging in under different usernames.
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Speaking of banning questions - Was Warthog banned or did he just go into hibernation?
read thread. he just went away like he tends to do.
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Same IP address = same computer, logging in under different usernames.
Thanks. So at a minimum, Chicos has posted as Hoopaloop. More likely, they're the same person.
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Maybe Hoop was just shadowing Chicos at work. As a Marquette fan, would you need to meet a person beforehand to let him shadow you at work? Some of you can be so closeminded sometimes. Why would his boss have any problem with some person from a message board showing up in the office? We are all MU fans.
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So help out a guy who's computer illiterate. On a number of occasions over the past year Chicos and Hoopaloop have posted from the same IP address within minutes of one another. Does this mean they're posting from the same computer? Different computers that are physically close by? Or something else? Thanks.
IP addresses are typically assigned by your ISP, and IP addresses are typically "leased" to a computer for a definite period of time. When the lease expires (or is near expiration), the lease can be renewed or a new IP may be assigned. So most computers have what's called a "dynamic IP," which means it's subject to change from time to time... some subscribers may have a "static IP" address that never changes, however those are typically limited to business-plan subscribers, those hosting servers, etc.
Further, ISP's are given a range of IP addresses to assign... that's why you can track someone's general location (i.e. city/state) with an IP address. For instance, Comcast in Lake County, Illinois may assign IPs ranging from 173.165.0.1 to 173.165.255.255. So if you run across someone with a 173.165.X.X IP address, you know they're in Lake County; however, the computer using 173.165.213.12 (as an example) on Monday may not be using that IP address on Friday. However, if a website is accessed twice by the same IP address, the shorter the period of time is between the two page calls, the better the chance the calls originated from the same computer. ISP's can further tune the assignable ranges according to neighborhood, plan subscription, cell tower, etc. to the point where you might "share" a range of 50 possible IP addresses with only two or three neighbors (giving rise to the "possibly" line in Rocky's tracking software).
In essence, the IP address your computer is assigned at a given location (home, work, phone) may not always be the same, but they'll be in the same range.
So in this case, you have a couple of smoking guns:
1) The most damning case is where two separate usernames being used from the same IP address within minutes of each other indicates that Chico and Hoop were logging in from the same computer.
2) A pattern of four usernames (CBB, Chicos, Chicoz, Hoop) coming from the same IP range - and being the only Scoop usernames originating from that range - indicates that all four are using the same ISP from the same locale. In this case, it's nearly impossible to have two (or more) computers that are supposedly 1,000 miles apart accessing the same range.
3) Rocky was able to trace a set of IP ranges being used by Hoop which are assigned to DirecTV. (Chicos having mentioned on multiple occasions that he's an employee of DirecTV is pretty much all you need to know there).
With all this said, this doesn't necessarily mean that Hoop and Chicos are the same person. However, if this is not true, it does mean that -- as Rocky mentioned -- two (or more) people are sharing the Hoop username.
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1) The most damning case is where two separate usernames being used from the same IP address within minutes of each other indicates that Chico and Hoop were logging in from the same computer.
This isn't entirely true. We can't prove that they're on the same computer because they have the same IP. They are definitely browsing from the same physical location and are subnetted, but unless we have their MAC address we can't say that they're definitely on the same computer.
It's a lot like on your home network. You have one external IP address assigned to you. If you have 3 computers at home all on the same modem/router they will all look like they're coming from the same IP address.
Using the same IP is very damning, but not quite as specifically damning as you say. It would be highly unlikely that Chicos had another ardent MU fan working at the same DirecTV location in CA that happened to be on the same subnet as himself at work. Highly unlikely.
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So, they are either the same person, or they are different people connected in such a way that is entirely too strange for me to comprehend.
BTW, is now a good time to admit that I once poured a beer over Chicos head when we were in college? (This was told to me by a classmate, and verified by another...I have no recollection of the incident in question.)
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Thanks for the explanation, Benny.
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I knew Chicos at Marquette also. He was on my dorm floor Freshman & Sophmore years. He was the only person I knew from California while at Marquette. I just don't remember him having multiple personalities like he has on the boards here. Maybe I just don't remember period or I just wasn't paying attention?
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This isn't entirely true. We can't prove that they're on the same computer because they have the same IP. They are definitely browsing from the same physical location and are subnetted, but unless we have their MAC address we can't say that they're definitely on the same computer.
It's a lot like on your home network. You have one external IP address assigned to you. If you have 3 computers at home all on the same modem/router they will all look like they're coming from the same IP address.
Using the same IP is very damning, but not quite as specifically damning as you say. It would be highly unlikely that Chicos had another ardent MU fan working at the same DirecTV location in CA that happened to be on the same subnet as himself at work. Highly unlikely.
You're right.... I didn't go into subnets and local IP's which is possible, but again, if they're supposedly 1,000 miles apart...
In any event, I agree that it's not damning in and of itself that two usernames originated from the same IP, but given the pattern here, it's the most damning part.
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You're right.... I didn't go into subnets and local IP's which is possible, but again, if they're supposedly 1,000 miles apart...
In any event, I agree that it's not damning in and of itself that two usernames originated from the same IP, but given the pattern here, it's the most damning part.
Totally agree.
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I'm Spartacus.
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I almost banned the new CBB and Hoop on the spot after seeing that, but I figured I'd give "them" a chance to explain how an unbiased computer is linking them together despite living over 1000 miles apart. This ought to be good...
Interesting that since posting this, CBB has posted multiple times, but Hoop hasn't even logged on to the site. Hoop has been so much more active lately, and suddenly, just as this post drops, he is gone for 4 days? I'm sure it's just coincidence... ::)
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It's too bad.
I actually used to agree with Chico's on a lot of stuff, and I thought he had some good insight.
However, his style of posting, frequency on posts, and stubbornness led to people automatically disagreeing or discarding anything he said. This created a vacuum where everything turned into a debate rather than a discussion. It became a troll war amongst ourselves.
Oh well. Maybe that's the destiny we are all headed for. Once you get above 12,000 posts, nobody wants to know what you think anyways.
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Back in like 2000 at Rivals he was one of my favorite posters. Think he went on a little "look at me" trip and has been trying to be Murf-esque since in my opinion.
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It's too bad.
Oh well. Maybe that's the destiny we are all headed for. Once you get above 12,000 posts, nobody wants to know what you think anyways.
Once you get to 12,000 posts everyone already knows what you think.
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You guys all fight with each other non stop for no other reason than being bored at work and taking the internet too seriously. If you'd all just stop attacking each other we could all be much happier.
RIP to the late, great Rodney King.
http://www.youtube.com/v/1sONfxPCTU0
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Once you get to 12,000 posts everyone already knows what you think.
Maybe that's why he felt he needed a new username. No one was listening anymore.
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Wow this is pathetically hilarious
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soooo, can we change the topic title to "nothing to do with Nunn"..., ?
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Everybody happy now? Chicos' been outed, BFD. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, aina? Where's the crime? Aren't we all Warriors and Marquette family? Man, live and let live instead of stickin' your dick out. Life's too short, enjoy the journey.
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You guys all fight with each other non stop for no other reason than being bored at work and taking the internet too seriously. If you'd all just stop attacking each other we could all be much happier.
F*ck you! Don't tell me what to do, Nazi!
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soooo, can we change the topic title to "nothing to do with Nunn"..., ?
Or "Nothing About Nunn."? Oh wait...
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Everybody happy now? Chicos' been outed, BFD. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, aina? Where's the crime? Aren't we all Warriors and Marquette family? Man, live and let live instead of stickin' your dick out. Life's too short, enjoy the journey.
Some people would say the same thing about Tom Crean. Hasn't stopped you from posting about him.
You've been Chico's'd. ;)
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You're right.... I didn't go into subnets and local IP's which is possible, but again, if they're supposedly 1,000 miles apart...
In any event, I agree that it's not damning in and of itself that two usernames originated from the same IP, but given the pattern here, it's the most damning part.
Spot on but you guys are missing one minor point. They could both be filtered through a company's VPN or WAN and thus appear to be in the same physical region while being 1,000s of miles apart.
The company I work for has offices in Illinois and Texas (and elsewhere) but all internet traffic goes through one point in Illinois. Heck I could be on the moon going through a VPN and it'd look like I'm in Illinois.
There's also the outlandish possibility both are using the same botnet-anonymizer that routes through an infected system at DirectTV.
/totally unnecessary over-analysis
//they could be co-workers
///ducks
////CBB/Hoop would have played up that angle awhile ago
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Spot on but you guys are missing one minor point. They could both be filtered through a company's VPN or WAN and thus appear to be in the same physical region while being 1,000s of miles apart.
The company I work for has offices in Illinois and Texas (and elsewhere) but all internet traffic goes through one point in Illinois. Heck I could be on the moon going through a VPN and it'd look like I'm in Illinois.
There's also the outlandish possibility both are using the same botnet-anonymizer that routes through an infected system at DirectTV.
/totally unnecessary over-analysis
//they could be co-workers
///ducks
////CBB/Hoop would have played up that angle awhile ago
Good thing 1 works for DirecTV and the (alter-ego) other engineers airplane parts. That rules that possibility out.
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Some people would say the same thing about Tom Crean. Hasn't stopped you from posting about him.
You've been Chico's'd. ;)
Equating Chicos to Tommy Boy, really? Besides I don't like Crean. ;D
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Let's make this simple. You banned this guy once for....whatever. In his next "life", he lied to you about his "identity". He's still the same guy. What's changed?
Rocky, pull the trigger.
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Let's make this simple. You banned this guy once for....whatever. In his next "life", he lied to you about his "identity". He's still the same guy. What's changed?
Rocky, pull the trigger.
Didn't Chico's pretty much dare the mods to ban him and isn't he doing the same thing now?
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Didn't Chico's pretty much dare the mods to ban him and isn't he doing the same thing now?
Agreed.
Rocky=Chicos=hoops? ;)
Seriously, pull the trigger. Bam. Bam. (sound of ban hammer coming down)
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F*ck you! Don't tell me what to do, Nazi!
The Henry Sugar+Chicos People's Front will fall!
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Anyone else think that creating the CBB username is all part of a much bigger plan by Chicos? It's like John Doe turning himself to Mills and Somerset. Be warned...
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The Henry Sugar+Chicos People's Front will fall!
I'm only posting this because I'm bored at work.
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In the land of law enforcement this is known as Computer Forensic Analysis. Good work CSI Rocky.....
Not really. You are missing the clearest one. As I said, I am not Hoopaloop and he is not me. This is a universal truth. He is taller than me, lives in another state, etc, etc. We are different people, went to MU at different times. I went to grad school at Kansas and IU, he want to PU. He's an engineer, I'm in business dev, marketing, product management.
As I stated last week, I'd be happy to have that beer with Rocky and we can get Rob on board at the same time. Should be a lot of fun. I'd like to go far and propose another wager, especially since I win so many of them here. :D We put some dollars on this and whomever wins donates it to the American Juvenile Diabetes Association, that way kids like my daughter can benefit in the fight for a cure. Let's put a little spark into it.
But rest assured, I am not him and he is not me. Two different people, two different mothers, two different locations. There's a reason why in the 1000+ posts he has there has only been crossover of 4 or 5 times which shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
Peace. Out.
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Spot on but you guys are missing one minor point. They could both be filtered through a company's VPN or WAN and thus appear to be in the same physical region while being 1,000s of miles apart.
The company I work for has offices in Illinois and Texas (and elsewhere) but all internet traffic goes through one point in Illinois. Heck I could be on the moon going through a VPN and it'd look like I'm in Illinois.
I'm going with the opposite, the RDP into a Chicago computer was probably down a few times when a joke about Crean was posted and someone just couldn't let it go. A coincidence that these two usernames link to the same IP address multiple times and none of the 6,000+ others do even once. Our company's traffic doesn't route to one location; if I wanted I could RDP into a computer and show an IP in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, or Silicon Valley.
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Not really. You are missing the clearest one. As I said, I am not Hoopaloop and he is not me. This is a universal truth. He is taller than me, lives in another state, etc, etc. We are different people, went to MU at different times. I went to grad school at Kansas and IU, he want to PU. He's an engineer, I'm in business dev, marketing, product management.
As I stated last week, I'd be happy to have that beer with Rocky and we can get Rob on board at the same time. Should be a lot of fun. I'd like to go far and propose another wager, especially since I win so many of them here. :D We put some dollars on this and whomever wins donates it to the American Juvenile Diabetes Association, that way kids like my daughter can benefit in the fight for a cure. Let's put a little spark into it.
But rest assured, I am not him and he is not me. Two different people, two different mothers, two different locations. There's a reason why in the 1000+ posts he has there has only been crossover of 4 or 5 times which shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
Peace. Out.
You and Rob may be 2 different people, but you have posted under the Chicosbailbonds, CBB, and Hoopaloop aliases. This is an indisputable fact, especially considering you work at two separate companies.
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You and Rob may be 2 different people, but you have posted under the Chicosbailbonds, CBB, and Hoopaloop aliases. This is an indisputable fact, especially considering you work at two separate companies.
Yep....notice how he didn't refute that?
For that reason alone I would shut all of the accounts down.
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Yep....notice how he didn't refute that?
For that reason alone I would shut all of the accounts down.
+1
Gonna need to apply a little Kentucky windage to get the three of them.
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+1
Gonna need to apply a little Kentucky windage to get the three of them.
Shotgun, not rifle.
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Yep....notice how he didn't refute that?
Yup, that combined with the Hoop silence told me all I needed to know. They're both in read only mode now.
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Yup, that combined with the Hoop silence told me all I needed to know. They're both in read only mode now.
So what's his next name gonna be?
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Yup, that combined with the Hoop silence told me all I needed to know. They're both in read only mode now.
You are very tolerant.
Neil Young lyric...."raised my rifle to my eye, never thought to wonder why...". Good metaphor
Rocky, we appreciate all that you and the other mods do to allow of us MU bball nerds share our passion. Too bad a few like Chicos, et al, make harder than it needs to be.
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Yup, that combined with the Hoop silence told me all I needed to know. They're both in read only mode now.
Great news. I really only read this and the scout forum (very rarely) but Chicohoop comes across as one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen.
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There's a reason why in the 1000+ posts he has there has only been crossover of 4 or 5 times which shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
Yes, because that's the number of times you've posted back to back from the two accounts. In the world of the Internet, for one guy living in Cali and one guy living in Chicago, that's a TON of crossover. So by your explanation, he must be flying out every other month and visiting you at work? Does your job have a "take your alter-ego to work day?"
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When you have an agenda on mu scoop you get banned.
When you get banned you create an alter ego.
When you create an alter ego people quickly figure it out.
When people figure it out you make up a creepy story about a beer summit.
When you make up a creepy story about a beer summit people realize that you have
psychological problems.
Don’t have psychological problems, Use DirecTV computers for work instead of having an agenda on MUScoop.
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LOL. Well played.
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Yep....notice how he didn't refute that?
For that reason alone I would shut all of the accounts down.
2 different mothers, said nothing about the same father. chicohoop is shawn kemp's kid.
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2 different mothers, said nothing about the same father. chicohoop is shawn kemp's kid.
Even Kemp may deny that one ....
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If what I have heard about his height is true, no way he is Kemp's kid. He would have to be the Tyrion Lannister of Kemp's kids.
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When you have an agenda on mu scoop you get banned.
When you get banned you create an alter ego.
When you create an alter ego people quickly figure it out.
When people figure it out you make up a creepy story about a beer summit.
When you make up a creepy story about a beer summit people realize that you have
psychological problems.
Don’t have psychological problems, Use DirecTV computers for work instead of having an agenda on MUScoop.
OMG, remarkably funny on so many levels! +1000
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When you have an agenda on mu scoop you get banned.
When you get banned you create an alter ego.
When you create an alter ego people quickly figure it out.
When people figure it out you make up a creepy story about a beer summit.
When you make up a creepy story about a beer summit people realize that you have
psychological problems.
Don’t have psychological problems, Use DirecTV computers for work instead of having an agenda on MUScoop.
I swear I've seen a lot of stuff in my life, but that.... was.... AWESOME
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Just curious, does anyone think Chicos was Abe too? Abe was a real head case on the JS board.
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Just curious, does anyone think Chicos was Abe too? Abe was a real head case on the JS board.
Abe was a royal pain, wasn't he? I don't think I ever saw him on this board.
Oh, and in case Rocky wants to check my IP, he'll note one other scooper that might use the same computer. She's better looking than me. (Check, I get dinner tonight now.)
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Abe sure seemed like another manifestation of Chicos/ hoops/cbb.....
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No. Abe and Chicos went at it tooth and nail on the JS board. Abe hated Crean and passive-aggressively hated MU, claiming to be neutral and a fan of both UW and MU as he was an MSOE alum. Chicos aggressively defended Crean even then, even when MU was going to NIT's, even when Crean was landing Ooze and Burke as his only big men his last 5 years. Chicos was consistent in his energetic defense of Crean and his criticism of UW.
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Just curious, does anyone think Chicos was Abe too? Abe was a real head case on the JS board.
LOL. No, hell no. Abe is still around on the Badgernation board along with some of the other badger tools. Tower has it right. I hate UW-madison and many of their hypocritical posters. I do like Crean, he's got my other alma mater at #1 probably this year and doing a great job, he led my other alma mater to the Final Four. Should be a fun year for the IU faithful...watching this board react will be equally fun. Love what Buzz is doing.
To clear something up, as I tried to state the other day I've only registered here under the Chicos names. Hoopaloop isn't me, sorry to disappoint you fellows. He let me use his account a few times to login, that was the crime. Of the 1000+ posts, I'll bet I'm involved in probably less than 10. I didn't want to create a username so he offered to let me use his which I rarely did. His writing style is totally different, we don't agree on many things, on and on. Looking forward to attending a MU game with him this year as we are going to have a little fun with all the nonsense that has been stated. Maybe a birth certficate from each of us along with our diplomas...something, but we'll get a good laugh out of it. It's too bad he was banned too, he was trying to be helpful.
I have to say I loved the Roadside Ditch tribute/attack earlier this week....that was awesome and I'm flattered. Our group created that along with Gray Advertising. It's always cool to be part of something that becomes a part of American culture, just like miniature giraffes. I got a huge kick out of Bill Clinton's comments about it last week.
“My favorite ads in the United States are those ads encouraging people to switch from cable to DirecTV,” he said, as the crowd laughed. “You have a problem. Something disastrous happens. You don’t get along with your daughter. She winds up having an alternative lifestyle, marries a guy with too many tattoos. She ends up having a child who wears a dog collar. Now, you have a granddaughter with a dog collar. Switch to DirecTV. … They‘re the most hilarious ads I’ve ever seen.”
I can die and go to heaven now...Bill Clinton giving a thumbs up on the creativity. LOL.
Have a safe 4th of July
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Jesus...are you really this narcissistic? You have to create a *fourth* account???
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Jesus...are you really this narcissistic? You have to create a *fourth* account???
Help me mister wizard (mods). This is getting painful.
Hey sultan, let's meet in Mishawaka for a "beer summit".
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*sigh*
Chicos/hoop... I'm trying to be nice and let you read by not applying an ip ban.
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Jesus...are you really this narcissistic? You have to create a *fourth* account???
If you have to ask........
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LOL. No, hell no. Abe is still around on the Badgernation board along with some of the other badger tools. Tower has it right. I hate UW-madison and many of their hypocritical posters. I do like Crean, he's got my other alma mater at #1 probably this year and doing a great job, he led my other alma mater to the Final Four. Should be a fun year for the IU faithful...watching this board react will be equally fun. Love what Buzz is doing.
To clear something up, as I tried to state the other day I've only registered here under the Chicos names. Hoopaloop isn't me, sorry to disappoint you fellows. He let me use his account a few times to login, that was the crime. Of the 1000+ posts, I'll bet I'm involved in probably less than 10. I didn't want to create a username so he offered to let me use his which I rarely did. His writing style is totally different, we don't agree on many things, on and on. Looking forward to attending a MU game with him this year as we are going to have a little fun with all the nonsense that has been stated. Maybe a birth certficate from each of us along with our diplomas...something, but we'll get a good laugh out of it. It's too bad he was banned too, he was trying to be helpful.
I have to say I loved the Roadside Ditch tribute/attack earlier this week....that was awesome and I'm flattered. Our group created that along with Gray Advertising. It's always cool to be part of something that becomes a part of American culture, just like miniature giraffes. I got a huge kick out of Bill Clinton's comments about it last week.
“My favorite ads in the United States are those ads encouraging people to switch from cable to DirecTV,” he said, as the crowd laughed. “You have a problem. Something disastrous happens. You don’t get along with your daughter. She winds up having an alternative lifestyle, marries a guy with too many tattoos. She ends up having a child who wears a dog collar. Now, you have a granddaughter with a dog collar. Switch to DirecTV. … They‘re the most hilarious ads I’ve ever seen.”
I can die and go to heaven now...Bill Clinton giving a thumbs up on the creativity. LOL.
Have a safe 4th of July
So some dude that you barely know gives you his login and password out of the kindness of his heart.
I think the "BB" stands for Baghdad bob.
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I have to say I loved the Roadside Ditch tribute/attack earlier this week....that was awesome and I'm flattered. Our group created that along with Gray Advertising. It's always cool to be part of something that becomes a part of American culture, just like miniature giraffes. I got a huge kick out of Bill Clinton's comments about it last week.
I don't know what your role is at DirectTV but I sincerely hope you don't work with the ad agency. If you are going to claim to be involved in creating "a part of American culture" at least have the decency to correctly identify your ad agency partners. Hint: There is no such thing as "Gray Advertising".
But, I guess I shouldn't be surprised...pretty much par for the course for someone as self-involved/self-loving as you.
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To clear something up, as I tried to state the other day I've only registered here under the Chicos names. I didn't want to create a username so he offered to let me use his which I rarely did.
Yes, it is clear that you hate creating new usernames. "Oooh, my dear hoopaloop.. I have such a dilemma... I'd really like to go back on one of the boards I've been banned from posting on.. and post. The only issue I see is that I really don't want to create a username!"
July 4th... I can imagine you're yapping it up with the neighbors, telling them how you are a war hero.
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Raised my rifle to my eye....(metaphor)
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I don't know what your role is at DirectTV but I sincerely hope you don't work with the ad agency. If you are going to claim to be involved in creating "a part of American culture" at least have the decency to correctly identify your ad agency partners. Hint: There is no such thing as "Gray Advertising".
But, I guess I shouldn't be surprised...pretty much par for the course for someone as self-involved/self-loving as you.
Translation, Grey Advertising presented a few ad ideas to his team. His team said they like that one. The ads aired and now months later, his creative genius is responsible for the creation of the ad series.
In all honesty I hate those ads.
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1. Chicos/CBB/CBB2 are not Hoopaloop. Or so they claim.
2. Chicos is responsible for DirecTV's ads. Don't switch to DirecTV - It's better to attend your own funeral as Phil Shifley.
3. Chicos is a war hero. A MUScoop Civil War Hero who tells war stories posing as Hoopaloop ::)
4. We need more Beer Summits!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OclttfJrUI8/TadZ5DOfzLI/AAAAAAAABSg/T2ZWxEMF72Q/s1600/the_more_you_know.jpg)
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So pathetic.... Yet soooooo entertaining.
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sometimes I regret having DirecTV
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I don't know what your role is at DirectTV but I sincerely hope you don't work with the ad agency. If you are going to claim to be involved in creating "a part of American culture" at least have the decency to correctly identify your ad agency partners. Hint: There is no such thing as "Gray Advertising".
But, I guess I shouldn't be surprised...pretty much par for the course for someone as self-involved/self-loving as you.
Hoopaloop is the CEO of Gray Advertising.
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(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/36/365964.jpg)
Gray Advertising
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Hey Chicos -
For a nominal fee I will send you my email address. I will then post any comments you'd like under my own username here on MUScoop.
To hell with the Mods!
(http://i.imgur.com/fzCHB.gif)
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Hey Chicos -
For a nominal fee I will send you my email address.
He already has your email address. And home address, work address, etc. Bro is a big time stalker.
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I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Chicos knew the banstick was coming and he wanted to assume a new identity. He read in the paper about the death of a drifter by the name of Rob Hoopaloop and assumed his identity for Scoop purposes. As Hoopaloop, he took the board hostage, might have even kidnapped warthog driver in the process. Thanks to the detective work of Rocky we determined that Chicos is Hoopaloop.
Here is the video report.
http://youtube.com/v/_2LjwM3B688
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I didn't need software to know this is the same person.
Weirdo.
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I didn't need software to know this is the same person.
Weirdo.
You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Please continue with your homophobic rants, they reflect well on you. As they say, people with the greatest anxiety about gays tend to be gay themselves. Something you want to tell us PRN?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/09/study-homophobic-people-likely-repressing-homosexual-attraction/
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You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Please continue with your homophobic rants, they reflect well on you. As they say, people with the greatest anxiety about gays tend to be gay themselves. Something you want to tell us PRN?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/09/study-homophobic-people-likely-repressing-homosexual-attraction/
Is this seriously happening again?
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You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Then you should be banned from the board for knowingly allowing a banned member to use your account.
But I'm a much bigger assh*le than the mods are.
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You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Please continue with your homophobic rants, they reflect well on you. As they say, people with the greatest anxiety about gays tend to be gay themselves. Something you want to tell us PRN?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/09/study-homophobic-people-likely-repressing-homosexual-attraction/
Welcome back, Chicos/Hoop/"Rob"
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This is comical. Very, very said, but also comical.
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Is this seriously happening again?
http://www.youtube.com/v/HNTxr2NJHa0
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http://www.youtube.com/v/HNTxr2NJHa0
Respect, yo. RIP Sheri Lewis.
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You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Please continue with your homophobic rants, they reflect well on you. As they say, people with the greatest anxiety about gays tend to be gay themselves. Something you want to tell us PRN?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/09/study-homophobic-people-likely-repressing-homosexual-attraction/
JUST. LET. IT. GO.
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He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person.
That would MAYBE make sense if you needed to log in to read the website. But you don't need to log in to read anything, so it doesn't make sense at all.
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Just want to say that I think I was the first person to call this. I knew it was Chicos and another guy using the same account.
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Just want to say that I think I was the first person to call this. I knew it was Chicos and another guy using the same account.
Congratulations.
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(http://www.lambawards.com/trophies-trophy.jpg?First+Person+To+Call+This%3A+WARRIOR07)
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Just want to say that I think I was the first person to call this. I knew it was Chicos and another guy using the same account.
Without evidence, this claim means nothing. Time to go through every post from every user referencing the possibility of Chicos and Hoop being the same or sharing an account and see which is timestamped first.
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HAHA. I know it means nothing, but I think I picked up on it pretty early and I'm surprised I didn't see other people saying it.
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Without evidence, this claim means nothing. Time to go through every post from every user referencing the possibility of Chicos and Hoop being the same or sharing an account and see which is timestamped first.
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(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344313548856_9754404.png) (http://www.someecards.com/usercards/nsviewcard/MjAxMi03OTg2ODY3NzRlMzgxNGM3)
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Well.... there you have it. Not only do we now know that Chicos and Hoopaloop are indeed two separate people, we also know that neither one is Jimmy Butler.
(http://p.twimg.com/A0XSGsTCEAASFj_.jpg)
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Well.... there you have it. Not only do we now know that Chicos and Hoopaloop are indeed two separate people, we also know that neither one is Jimmy Butler.
(http://p.twimg.com/A0XSGsTCEAASFj_.jpg)
And that one of them drinks mai tais at the ball game.
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And that one of them drinks mai tais at the ball game.
What do you expect....he's at a Cubs game.
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What do you expect....he's at a Cubs game.
Just gotta remember to keep that pinky out.
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What do you expect....he's at a Cubs game.
All I see are dudes in the picture. Shocker...
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Who's who here? Is Butler the tall one?
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All I see are dudes in the picture. Shocker...
It's hilarious because it's so original.
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You remain a colossal idiot. We aren't the same people. Even Rocky says so. Here was Rocky's email to me.
"Rob: Absolutely untrue. I believe you <Chico and Hoopaloop> are different people. I also believe you have both used the Hoopaloop account in part to help circumvent JD's previous ban."
That's exactly what happened. He (Chico) couldn't read the boards for months and I offered him access via my account so he could get in and read, but you continue to be an epic moron (along with Cheebs and others) that think we are the same person. We aren't and even the moderator\owner of this board knows that to be the case.
Please continue with your homophobic rants, they reflect well on you. As they say, people with the greatest anxiety about gays tend to be gay themselves. Something you want to tell us PRN?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/09/study-homophobic-people-likely-repressing-homosexual-attraction/
Rocky is wrong. All the same person. How many boards, and under how many names, have you been banned from?
If I were gay, could I come over for beers before heading over to leer at you and the other furries at Disneyland?
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We have AtWiz saying LW was promoted beyond his capabilities and is hoping his on the job training doesn't drive Buzz out of the program. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.2750
Looks like Wiz nailed this one! Well done Tom!
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Wonder how many times chicos has been banned.
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Let's make this simple. You banned this guy once for....whatever. In his next "life", he lied to you about his "identity". He's still the same guy. What's changed?
Rocky, pull the trigger.
This is rich.
All I could hear back then and again in 2020 was the ICE-T refrain “I’m bout to unload the ammo...E squeeze the trigger.”
Cheeks does have a tendency to hijack threads, but I think he makes some very salient points when he wants to. So, on second thought, Rocky, please always let him run his race, without going all General Aladeen on him. That’s either Brew or willie warrior’s job.
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This is rich.
All I could hear back then and again in 2020 was the ICE-T refrain “I’m bout to unload the ammo...E squeeze the trigger.”
Cheeks does have a tendency to hijack threads, but I think he makes some very salient points when he wants to. So, on second thought, Rocky, please always let him run his race, without going all General Aladeen on him. That’s either Brew or willie warrior’s job.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59838.msg1199547#msg1199547
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This is rich.
All I could hear back then and again in 2020 was the ICE-T refrain “I’m bout to unload the ammo...E squeeze the trigger.”
Cheeks does have a tendency to hijack threads, but I think he makes some very salient points when he wants to. So, on second thought, Rocky, please always let him run his race, without going all General Aladeen on him. That’s either Brew or willie warrior’s job.
My first thought was "why you hoopin?" But then i got to reread this insanity and had a good laugh.