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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 02, 2012, 09:12:30 PM
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Imagine being down 30 at halftime. 30 for chrissakes!! At halftime!
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Finally figured out why his tie hangs so low. He needs it to tidy up the mess when soiling his trousers.
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Imagine being down 30 at halftime. 30 for chrissakes!! At halftime!
Imagine, not going at all and it would now be 35 years tonight since MU last made it. Imagine. Imagine. 35 years. Imagine.
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Imagine being down 30 at halftime. 30 for chrissakes!! At halftime!
Except it was 29. No need to imagine.
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Imagine, not going at all and it would now be 35 years tonight since MU last made it. Imagine. Imagine. 35 years. Imagine.
Mods, isn't this silly? Why not just un-ban Chicos?
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Except it was 29. No need to imagine.
I'll bet if AnotherMU84 had one of his famous polls, some would answer the second part of the answer and choose not to go to the Final Four at all.
WOULD YOU RATHER MU MADE THE FINAL FOUR AND GOT BLOWN OUT OR NOT MADE THE FINAL FOUR AT ALL?
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Mods, isn't this silly? Why not just un-ban Chicos?
He's in Arizona for Spring Training according to his Facebook page.
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He's in Arizona for Spring Training according to his Facebook page.
And they don't have the internets in Arizona?
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I'll bet if AnotherMU84 had one of his famous polls, some would answer the second part of the answer and choose not to go to the Final Four at all.
WOULD YOU RATHER MU MADE THE FINAL FOUR AND GOT BLOWN OUT OR NOT MADE THE FINAL FOUR AT ALL?
Does it have to be one or the other? Marquette was down FORTY points several times in the second half of that game. I'm sorry but 4ever is correct. He crapped his pantaloons.
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And they don't have the internets in Arizona?
How can he be in Arizona when I'm sitting in his living room "having a beer" with his wife?
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The non-stop Crean bashing by 4ever and PRN and others is so old and stale its getting pathetic. So you don't like Crean - who the heck cares anymore. Please stop with the inane posts that take swipe after swipe at Crean. I could care less if he was rude to you guys or didn't kiss your butt or he didn't do whatever it was you wanted him to do. He's at Indiana now, he had a good run at Marquette, got us to a Final Four, graduated his players, helped fundraise for the Al, and we got into the Big East largely because of the success his teams had in C-USA.
I shudder to think what you and the rest of the Crean bashers are going to be like when he starts winning a ton at Indiana. He has one heck of a recruiting class coming in and if Zeller and Wafford stay, they will be loaded next year.
And, no, I'm not Chicos and I rarely post about Crean one way or the other. I just get so sick of the constant needling of a guy who isn't even at Marquette any longer.
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He's in Arizona for Spring Training according to his Facebook page.
who's he hanging out with?
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I'll bet if AnotherMU84 had one of his famous polls, some would answer the second part of the answer and choose not to go to the Final Four at all.
WOULD YOU RATHER MU MADE THE FINAL FOUR AND GOT BLOWN OUT OR NOT MADE THE FINAL FOUR AT ALL?
Not a bad idea!!!
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The non-stop Crean bashing by 4ever and PRN and others is so old and stale its getting pathetic. So you don't like Crean - who the heck cares anymore. Please stop with the inane posts that take swipe after swipe at Crean. I could care less if he was rude to you guys or didn't kiss your butt or he didn't do whatever it was you wanted him to do. He's at Indiana now, he had a good run at Marquette, got us to a Final Four, graduated his players, helped fundraise for the Al, and we got into the Big East largely because of the success his teams had in C-USA.
I shudder to think what you and the rest of the Crean bashers are going to be like when he starts winning a ton at Indiana. He has one heck of a recruiting class coming in and if Zeller and Wafford stay, they will be loaded next year.
And, no, I'm not Chicos and I rarely post about
Crean one way or the other. I just get so sick of the
constant needling of a guy who isn't even at Marquette
any longer.
Joanie - you look just like your brother Jim.
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Joanie - you look just like your brother Jim.
Oh, what a witty comeback!
I am not Joanie, Jim, Jack or any other Harbaugh or Crean. I'm just sick of the non-stop Crean bashing.
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Oh, what a witty comeback!
I am not Joanie, Jim, Jack or any other Harbaugh or Crean. I'm just sick of the non-stop Crean bashing.
Is that you, Tony LaRussa?
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Is that you, Tony LaRussa?
nah, Mike Maddux. Tony's in the bag bout now.
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Norm - Have you ever been in a $41,000 hyperbaric chamber? How did it affect your performance?
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Is that you, Tony LaRussa?
No. I'm not a friend, associate, acquaintance or have any relationship of any kind with Crean. Only time I ever met/talked with Crean was at the party in the hotel with a thousand other MU fans after MU beat Missouri to get to the Sweet 16.
Just an MU grad who loves coming on MUScoop but is sick to death of the constant Crean bashing 4 years after he left.
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Norman, I'll give you this. He was a legendary snake oil salesman who fooled a lot of folks. Shoulda left right after the New Orleans debacle. As it was, he overstayed his welcome. Celebrate FFC Day yearly.
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Norman, I'll give you this. He was a legendary snake oil salesman who fooled a lot of folks. Shoulda left right after the New Orleans debacle. As it was, he overstayed his welcome. Celebrate FFC Day yearly.
Whatever your problem is, the fact is TC built a real base for MU to build upon ( including hiring Buzz ). You need to get a life. DWade...Diener...Novak.. 3 Amigos,Zar. Buzz..BE... The Al...numerous sellouts. How did he fool anyone? You may not like him, but that's a personal problem.... :(
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Oh, what a witty comeback!
I am not Joanie, Jim, Jack or any other Harbaugh or Crean. I'm just sick of the non-stop Crean bashing.
Don't worry, he'll soon be telling you that you need psychological help when here he is 4 years later still having issues. It is something to behold.
How can he be in Arizona when I'm sitting in his living room "having a beer" with his wife?
Go back and read what I said. I met him one time, in Orange County at his home with his family and mine. One time as were at the Disney Parks. Disneyland and the California Adventure park. We stayed a few hours, had some beers. This really bothers you doesn't it.
who's he hanging out with?
From the looks of his photos. His wife, daughter, son and some friends.
No. I'm not a friend, associate, acquaintance or have any relationship of any kind with Crean. Only time I ever met/talked with Crean was at the party in the hotel with a thousand other MU fans after MU beat Missouri to get to the Sweet 16.
Just an MU grad who loves coming on MUScoop but is sick to death of the constant Crean bashing 4 years after he left.
Well said. It is so old, but it's your fault, my fault, and others for speaking up against it. Crazy, but they actually blame us MU fans that find this stuff nauseating as the problem. Not the guys that bring him up every single day, but instead it is those of us that speak up and say stop that are the problem. ::)
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I think it's absolutely hilarious. Crean deserves whatever he gets, and that includes the Indiana job. He worked his way up the ladder to a job that he wanted to be at. Good for him. He did some very good things for Marquette. But he is also a douche who didn't even have the decency to tell the players he had built a relationship with that he was taking a new job and leaving them. And he is as fake as they come. I appreciate what Crean did for Marquette, but think the jabs at him are hilarious.
If people don't want to read them, an easy solution would be to avoid a thread titled "As bad as this is..." while Kansas is putting on an ugly performance in the National Championship game. If you can't figure out what's coming in that thread, I feel bad for you. If you can figure it out and you know you don't like it, then why read it?
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Mods, isn't this silly? Why not just un-ban Chicos?
+1 - Though it even funnier to read the comical rationalizations Hoop invents to justify that he is in fact not Chicos. Silly, however, is a great word to describe the current saga. What's the saying? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..it probably is a duck? But in this case - If it posts like a Chicos, reacts like a Chicos, it probably is a Chicos?
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I think it's absolutely hilarious. Crean deserves whatever he gets, and that includes the Indiana job. He worked his way up the ladder to a job that he wanted to be at. Good for him. He did some very good things for Marquette. But he is also a douche who didn't even have the decency to tell the players he had built a relationship with that he was taking a new job and leaving them. And he is as fake as they come. I appreciate what Crean did for Marquette, but think the jabs at him are hilarious.
If people don't want to read them, an easy solution would be to avoid a thread titled "As bad as this is..." while Kansas is putting on an ugly performance in the National Championship game. If you can't figure out what's coming in that thread, I feel bad for you. If you can figure it out and you know you don't like it, then why read it?
+ 1,000,000,000. The main difference between 4ever, PRN, ZFB, Warthog et al and Hoop and his minions is a sense of humor. Team A has it in abundance. Team B, not at all.
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Four years later it is time to start a Crean bashing forum. ZFB's April Fool's post belongs on Hangin' at the Al before this perpetually served nonsense. Saga could only reserve the same food a few times. Any body else wish someone else was still on their own self imposed sabbatical. It might be time to start the Tom Crean Haters and chico's circle jerk forum. We might see a death by self flagellation.
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SAGA - Soviet Attempt to Gas America
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Imagine being down 30 at halftime. 30 for chrissakes!! At halftime!
Certainly one of the most shameful moments in MU history. To have D Wade, Novak, Diener, Jackson, Merritt al and choke so badly on the game's biggest stage was beyond embarrassing.
Worse, though, was not even making the dance the next few years. The nadir was getting humbled by Western Michigan. Hideous.
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Certainly one of the most shameful moments in MU history. To have D Wade, Novak, Diener, Jackson, Merritt al and choke so badly on the game's biggest stage was beyond embarrassing.
Worse, though, was not even making the dance the next few years. The nadir was getting humbled by Western Michigan. Hideous.
Reminds me of a team last year that had Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, DJO, Vander Blue, Dwight Buycks, etc, but also shot terribly and also was beaten badly by another blue blood program. Difference is, last year’s team didn’t win 4 games first including a trouncing of #1 Kentucky.
Some people get embarrassed by things in one year and are not embarrassed by a similar performance in another year. The primary difference being the coach.
Me, I was proud we made it to the Sweet 16 last year and proud we made our first Final Four in 25 years in 2003. Both ended in spectacular thrashings at the hands of a blue blood program, but in 2003 the guys got Final Four rings and last year they didn't. In the end, be proud of the team's accomplishments.
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Reminds me of a team last year that had Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, DJO, Vander Blue, Dwight Buycks, etc, but also shot terribly and also was beaten badly by another blue blood program. Difference is, last year’s team didn’t win 4 games first including a trouncing of #1 Kentucky.
Some people get embarrassed by things in one year and are not embarrassed by a similar performance in another year. The primary difference being the coach.
Me, I was proud we made it to the Sweet 16 last year and proud we made our first Final Four in 25 years in 2003. Both ended in spectacular thrashings at the hands of a blue blood program, but in 2003 the guys got Final Four rings and last year they didn't. In the end, be proud of the team's accomplishments.
::) Chicos defending Crean's team? Shocking.
Seriously, though, you're comparing last year's team to the 2003 team? Wow.
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Reminds me of a team last year that had Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder, DJO, Vander Blue, Dwight Buycks, etc, but also shot terribly and also was beaten badly by another blue blood program. Difference is, last year’s team didn’t win 4 games first including a trouncing of #1 Kentucky.
Some people get embarrassed by things in one year and are not embarrassed by a similar performance in another year. The primary difference being the coach.
Not for nothing, but last year's far less talented team battled UNC (who was just as good as the 2003 Kansas team) for 40 minutes and actually cut the deficit to 14 with about 4 1/2 minutes to go in the second half while the 2003 team curled up into the fetal position and turned a 29 point half-time deficit to a 39 point deficit in the first two(!) minutes of the second half and never got within 30 again.
I hate the way Crean left but I appreciate what he accomplished here. But to characterize that FF loss to Kansas as anything other than an unparalleled epic debacle is just plain wrong. I know Penn got hammered by Michigan State in 1979, but considering everything, that loss was easily the worst loss in the history of the Final Four. And to do that with a roster that included 3 NBA players including an all-time great against an opponent that, while good, was nothing historically special in terms of Final Four quality is particularly awful.
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Here is the recap of that game:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney03/story?id=1534397
Money quote:
Kansas leads 79-39, 13:15 left, second half
How bad is it for Marquette? The Golden Eagles are out of timeouts with 13 minutes left.
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Oh, what a witty comeback!
I am not Joanie, Jim, Jack or any other Harbaugh or Crean. I'm just sick of the non-stop Crean bashing.
Is hoopaloop holding a gun to your head to read the thread. If you don't like it, look at something else.
Me, I love a good Crean bashing thread, especially coming off the glow of another FFC day.
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Not for nothing, but last year's far less talented team battled UNC (who was just as good as the 2003 Kansas team) for 40 minutes and actually cut the deficit to 14 with about 4 1/2 minutes to go in the second half while the 2003 team curled up into the fetal position and turned a 29 point half-time deficit to a 39 point deficit in the first two(!) minutes of the second half and never got within 30 again.
I hate the way Crean left but I appreciate what he accomplished here. But to characterize that FF loss to Kansas as anything other than an unparalleled epic debacle is just plain wrong. I know Penn got hammered by Michigan State in 1979, but considering everything, that loss was easily the worst loss in the history of the Final Four. And to do that with a roster that included 3 NBA players including an all-time great against an opponent that, while good, was nothing historically special in terms of Final Four quality is particularly awful.
Who here is not saying it wasn't a terrible loss? Of course it was. We shot under 30%. Diener was like 15% or something. If I recall, only 1 or 2 guys shot 50% for the game. We were terrible in all facets.
Here's the issue I have with it. We beat #1 Kentucky the same week and went to the Final Four for the first time in 25 years. We haven't been back since and we hadn't gone since 1977. Please tell me if someone other than Tom Crean had his name assigned to that team that people would focus more on the great run we had than the poor finish against the national runner-up. We all know that is a true statement. Substitute Crean's name with somebody else and this constant silliness that pops up by the same posters here ends.
You believe UNC from 2011 was as good as that KU team in 2003? I don't, but I respect your opinion. KU went to the national title game and lost to Syracuse by 3. UNC didn't even get to the Final Four and lost to a team that didn't even get to the title game. I am not comparing MU's 2011 team to MU's 2003 team, but I do find the reactions people have to blowout embarrassing losses in the tournament based on who the coach was to be more than eye opening.
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Who here is not saying it wasn't a terrible loss? Of course it was. We shot under 30%. Diener was like 15% or something. If I recall, only 1 or 2 guys shot 50% for the game. We were terrible in all facets.
You were comparing it to last year's loss to UNC by saying it reminded you of that game, and I disagree 100%that the games were similar. One was a bubble team losing to a 2 seed by 18 and the other was a top 10 team losing to another top 10 in perhaps the most one-sided game in Final Four history in what should have been an evenly matched game. We were a very talented team that played like Prairie View A & M against Kansas. They probably didn't have an easier win all season.
I rarely get involved in the Crean discussions because they are pointless and nobody ever convinces anybody of anything. Of course he was good for the school/basketball program and of course he was and still is a self-aggrandizing so-and-so. He had made his contribution and it was time for him to move on. I'm glad we have Buzz and I'm glad Crean got him here.
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You were comparing it to last year's loss to UNC by saying it reminded you of that game, and I disagree 100%that the games were similar. One was a bubble team losing to a 2 seed by 18 and the other was a top 10 team losing to another top 10 in perhaps the most one-sided game in Final Four history in what should have been an evenly matched game. We were a very talented team that played like Prairie View A & M against Kansas. They probably didn't have an easier win all season.
I rarely get involved in the Crean discussions because they are pointless and nobody ever convinces anybody of anything. Of course he was good for the school/basketball program and of course he was and still is a self-aggrandizing so-and-so. He had made his contribution and it was time for him to move on. I'm glad we have Buzz and I'm glad Crean got him here.
I was trying to compare the severity of losses. You are correct, the two teams were not equal. If people were honest with themselves they would acknowledge we weren't better Kentucky but we beat them on that day to advance to the Final Four. I contend some people here would rather we lost that KY game then go to the Final Four and lose badly to KU. I know if it was a different coach some of these same guys would respond differently. I do not understand that line of thinking. A team that is blown out in the Super Bowl is still the conference champion and their season is not summed up in one game. Of course it was lousy how the players found out. That is more and more the norm with 24/7 news cycles, especially at major programs like IU, KU, UK because there is so much scrutiny to release to the world who the new coach is.
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Here's the issue I have with it. We beat #1 Kentucky the same week and went to the Final Four for the first time in 25 years. We haven't been back since and we hadn't gone since 1977. Please tell me if someone other than Tom Crean had his name assigned to that team that people would focus more on the great run we had than the poor finish against the national runner-up. We all know that is a true statement. Substitute Crean's name with somebody else and this constant silliness that pops up by the same posters here ends.
Hoop...have you ever been on this site after a loss? Okay, granted, that FF loss was awful, painful, wretched, but is that reaction much different to other losses? Did you pay any attention to this board last year? All we heard about was how Buzz couldn't coach defense. How Buzz clearly lost the team in the St. John's game. You would have thought Buzz was the most inept coach in the Big East based on what was written on here last year, and that includes some stuff from people that are pretty blatant Buzz fans.
Ugly losses stir the emotions. No matter who was in charge of that 2003 loss, it would be remembered in a disappointing fashion. Not because of the coach, but because LOSING BY 33 IN THE FINAL FOUR IS DISAPPOINTING!!! Every season, the coach comes under scrutiny. Buzz did repeatedly last year. This year it was less frequent because of our generally successful results, but if we are 19-12 going into the Big East tourney next year, I guarantee you there will be a lot of people that spent a lot of time complaining about the job he did. It's the nature of coaching.
I think even the most ardent Crean-bashers would be hard-pressed to deny that he did positive things for Marquette. He brought us back into the national spotlight, he unearthed Dwyane Wade (even if they contend he got lucky, it still happened), he helped get us to the Big East, and he brought in Buzz Williams. But that doesn't change that he was at the controls when we suffered the most embarrassing loss in school history, that from a recruiting perspective he essentially squandered that Final Four, and that he left in a rather asinine fashion.
There's good, there's bad. That's life. And since he's gone now, some tend to focus on the bad because the last memory they have is of a tanned visage standing behind them in the mirror as they feel the twisting of the knife between their shoulder blades. Just because you don't tend to focus on the end of the relationship doesn't mean there wasn't some bad to go along with quite a few good memories.
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I think even the most ardent Crean-bashers would be hard-pressed to deny that he did positive things for Marquette. He brought us back into the national spotlight, he unearthed Dwyane Wade (even if they contend he got lucky, it still happened), he helped get us to the Big East, and he brought in Buzz Williams. But that doesn't change that he was at the controls when we suffered the most embarrassing loss in school history, that from a recruiting perspective he essentially squandered that Final Four, and that he left in a rather asinine fashion.
There's good, there's bad. That's life. And since he's gone now, some tend to focus on the bad because the last memory they have is of a tanned visage standing behind them in the mirror as they feel the twisting of the knife between their shoulder blades. Just because you don't tend to focus on the end of the relationship doesn't mean there wasn't some bad to go along with quite a few good memories.
I think you give these people entirely too much credit. 4 years later and the maturity level actually gets worse with a number of them. Tower or someone said it best the other day. It is so petty and makes our fans look sillier and sillier with each passing year.
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But that doesn't change that he was at the controls when we suffered the most embarrassing loss in school history...
We also lost on national TV...by 47 points...to Louisville. Forty. Seven. Points.
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Who here is not saying it wasn't a terrible loss? Of course it was. We shot under 30%. Diener was like 15% or something. If I recall, only 1 or 2 guys shot 50% for the game. We were terrible in all facets.
Here's the issue I have with it. We beat #1 Kentucky the same week and went to the Final Four for the first time in 25 years. We haven't been back since and we hadn't gone since 1977. Please tell me if someone other than Tom Crean had his name assigned to that team that people would focus more on the great run we had than the poor finish against the national runner-up. We all know that is a true statement. Substitute Crean's name with somebody else and this constant silliness that pops up by the same posters here ends.
You believe UNC from 2011 was as good as that KU team in 2003? I don't, but I respect your opinion. KU went to the national title game and lost to Syracuse by 3. UNC didn't even get to the Final Four and lost to a team that didn't even get to the title game. I am not comparing MU's 2011 team to MU's 2003 team, but I do find the reactions people have to blowout embarrassing losses in the tournament based on who the coach was to be more than eye opening.
Actually i beleive the point was the reason we got beat so badly was our coach choked. Nothing else. The only comparison to last yrs unc game is that there is no comparing the two teams talent level and the fact that our current coach got our team to nut up last year and fight while Crean never knew what hit him .
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I think you give these people entirely too much credit. 4 years later and the maturity level actually gets worse with a number of them. Tower or someone said it best the other day. It is so petty and makes our fans look sillier and sillier with each passing year.
To me the bigger issue has always been, why try to belittle our current coaches accomplishments to defend the previous coach who chose to depart MU? Its as though you've been hell bent on doing everything you can to diminish/belittle Buzz Williams performance in order to champion Tom Crean's. I never had an issue with Crean at all..until reading all the posts of yours that took pot shots at our current coach (the past 4 years) and championed Crean. It was at that point that I then began to argue against your Crean positions, due to being very pleased with Buzz..and wanting to support Buzz (our current coach)!!
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Actually i beleive the point was the reason we got beat so badly was our coach choked. Nothing else. The only comparison to last yrs unc game is that there is no comparing the two teams talent level and the fact that our current coach got our team to nut up last year and fight while Crean never knew what hit him .
So then that same coach didn't choke the week before as we beat #1 Kentucky. Right? Or only when we lost did the coach choke and when we won it was the players. ::)
I'm sure our losing had nothing to do with Novak going 1-7, Diener 1-11, Merritt 5-14, Bradley 1-7, Townsend 0-3, Chapman 0-3, etc, etc. Coaches can't shoot for players.
We nutted up plenty of times during the TC regime and beat teams with better talent or hung in there with those that didn't. Some games we didn't. There were some bad games in the TC era and some really good ones, too.
He doesn't come to MU, no Buzz, no Big East, no Wade, no Novak, no Diener, no Lazar, no Wes, etc.
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So then that same coach didn't choke the week before as we beat #1 Kentucky. Right? Or only when we lost did the coach choke and when we won it was the players. ::)
He doesn't come to MU, no Buzz, no Big East, no Wade, no Novak, no Diener, no Lazar, no Wes, etc.
Good Lord...welcome back Bail Bondsman
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So then that same coach didn't choke the week before as we beat #1 Kentucky. Right? Or only when we lost did the coach choke and when we won it was the players. ::)
I'm sure our losing had nothing to do with Novak going 1-7, Diener 1-11, Merritt 5-14, Bradley 1-7, Townsend 0-3, Chapman 0-3, etc, etc. Coaches can't shoot for players.
We nutted up plenty of times during the TC regime and beat teams with better talent or hung in there with those that didn't. Some games we didn't. There were some bad games in the TC era and some really good ones, too.
He doesn't come to MU, no Buzz, no Big East, no Wade, no Novak, no Diener, no Lazar, no Wes, etc.
No big east... I still love that one
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I think you give these people entirely too much credit. 4 years later and the maturity level actually gets worse with a number of them. Tower or someone said it best the other day. It is so petty and makes our fans look sillier and sillier with each passing year.
Probably true. But what does this say about a person who pathologically must respond to every post on MUScoop that could possibly be related to Crean or Crean's tenure in order to defend Crean?
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I think you give these people entirely too much credit. 4 years later and the maturity level actually gets worse with a number of them. Tower or someone said it best the other day. It is so petty and makes our fans look sillier and sillier with each passing year.
Also, what does it say about someone who would create an alternative internet personality to continue his campaign of reviving the reputation of that former coach? Who is crazier -- the fan who deplores the way that Crean left Marquette or the fan who will invent a fake nom de cyber in order to excuse the way Crean left?
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not only that but make up a wholly different charcter? Never any doubt the guy had issues but he is taking it to a whole new level. really pathetic life
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Probably true. But what does this say about a person who pathologically must respond to every post on MUScoop that could possibly be related to Crean or Crean's tenure in order to defend Crean?
I agree there warrior07. I honestly don't think every Crean post here is meant to spark a debate. One of the reasons I like this board so much is the sense of humor of some of the posters. Honestly, I enjoy most of the Crean posts just because they seem funny to me. The endless debate after them are painful to read and just people taking a joke far too seriously.
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This forum will be downright insufferable next season when Indiana enters the season ranked in the top five.
Give it up.
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I agree there warrior07. I honestly don't think every Crean post here is meant to spark a debate. One of the reasons I like this board so much is the sense of humor of some of the posters. Honestly, I enjoy most of the Crean posts just because they seem funny to me. The endless debate after them are painful to read and just people taking a joke far too seriously.
Ding, Ding, Ding. Cheebs, you hit the nail on the head.
To be funny (see 4ever, ZFB, PRN, Warthog, etc) requires insight and insight allows one to see what a phony, self serving tool TC is. The result? Mostly spot on, often hilarious comments about the departed.
The notoriously unfunny (Hoop, his BFF. etc) don't get the joke. This results in long winded, tedious and repetitive defenses of all things Crean/Harbaugh in which anger and namecalling substitute for humor.
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Ding, Ding, Ding. Cheebs, you hit the nail on the head.
To be funny (see 4ever, ZFB, PRN, Warthog, etc) requires insight and insight allows one to see what a phony, self serving tool TC is. The result? Mostly spot on, often hilarious comments about the departed.
The notoriously unfunny (Hoop, his BFF. etc) don't get the joke. This results in long winded, tedious and repetitive defenses of all things Crean/Harbaugh in which anger and namecalling substitute for humor.
Lenny, you are the 5th head on the mt Rushmore of the FFC society.
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This forum will be downright insufferable next season when Indiana enters the season ranked in the top five.
Give it up.
It's not where you start that counts.....
He'll find a way to soil the linens.
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Also, what does it say about someone who would create an alternative internet personality to continue his campaign of reviving the reputation of that former coach? Who is crazier -- the fan who deplores the way that Crean left Marquette or the fan who will invent a fake nom de cyber in order to excuse the way Crean left?
I haven't created anything of the kind. I have one username and one username only. I have been accused of being other people but you are wrong. You can keep saying it over and over and over again and lure posters to your way of thinking if you wish. Nothing I can do about that.
Rather paradoxical that you say I defend Crean on every post when most of your posts are focused about me and accusing me of being someone else.
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No big east... I still love that one
MU was invited to the Big East after our Final Four run. Some will believe we would have received an invite no matter what. You are entitled to your opinion.
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MU was invited to the Big East after our Final Four run. Some will believe we would have received an invite no matter what. You are entitled to your opinion.
Did I4 get an invite for depaul too? Or was that due to pat Kennedy's connections?
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Did I4 get an invite for depaul too? Or was that due to pat Kennedy's connections?
I am pretty sure that I4 tweeted something to the effect that "I always knew that Depaul had a Big East quality basketball program, and I'm pleased that I was right" - - or something like that
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I4 is a happy man today. Zeller and Watford returning. With their recruiting class, especially that Yogi Ferrell PG, they will be very good. Oh well......
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IU is oversigned by one player for next year.
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IU is oversigned by one player for next year.
makes me squirm
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I haven't created anything of the kind. I have one username and one username only. I have been accused of being other people but you are wrong. You can keep saying it over and over and over again and lure posters to your way of thinking if you wish. Nothing I can do about that.
Rather paradoxical that you say I defend Crean on every post when most of your posts are focused about me and accusing me of being someone else.
This ... really doesn't answer the question.
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Lenny, you are the 5th head on the mt Rushmore of the FFC society.
Ziggy, I'm honored and humbled. Maybe Chicos will come east for the dedication.
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not only that but make up a wholly different charcter? Never any doubt the guy had issues but he is taking it to a whole new level. really pathetic life
My personal favorite was the BS about how Hoop and The Bail Bondsman grabbed a beer together
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I decided to give hoopaloop a break after multiple PM's where he swore he wasn't chicos. Some of his takes in the Trayvon Martin thread, however, are written with nearly identical tone, syntax, and use of random links and emoticons as the bailbondsman. Just like the threads that caused him to be banned, this one seems to have robbed him of his ability to try to be someone else. So, hoopy, er, chicos, er anonymous poster coming from multiple anonymous addresses, welcome to 'ignore.'
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My personal favorite was the BS about how Hoop and The Bail Bondsman grabbed a beer together
you don't want to drink alone.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink with ChicosBailBonds."
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My personal favorite was the BS about how Hoop and The Bail Bondsman grabbed a beer together
BS? It was in his backyard with his wife and my wife. No BS at all. I'm tiring of your accusations. We were at their house for several hours then on to the Disney parks.
I joined Scoop months before the Bail Bondsmen was kicked out, but you guys ignore this. I was accused of using an improper email address, Rocky helped me correct that and my email is right there for all to see. Please feel free to send me one if you wish. Yes, we use VPN at work, it's required whenever we go on the internet or communicate via email. This is rather common these days for corporations. It was at my last company and no different with this one.
I'm sure he is chuckling that a year later you guys still can't get over him, much like the same guys can't get over Crean 4 years over. Pattern? Absolutely.
To be funny (see 4ever, ZFB, PRN, Warthog, etc) requires insight and insight allows one to see what a phony, self serving tool TC is. The result? Mostly spot on, often hilarious comments about the departed.
Well, you got one part right. 4ever is funny. The rest of you aren't. Nothing worse then someone who thinks they are funny and then practicing their humor consistently to the applause of their own hands only. You only hope someone can whisper in their ear to tell them the truth, they aren't funny and only entertain themselves and their small circus of unfunny compadres.
4ever is funny. ;D
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Did I4 get an invite for depaul too? Or was that due to pat Kennedy's connections?
Timeline
March 2003, Marquette goes to the Final Four
April 2003, "Mike Tranghese, commissioner of the Big East, dropped a bombshell — that the ACC was secretly trying to lure away Big East members.[13] Over the next several months, the ACC held meetings and discussions. Ultimately, Virginia Tech was invited to join the conference, along with Miami. Boston College was added the following year. Virginia Tech finally had achieved what Frank Moseley had sought so long ago — membership in the ACC."
Summer 2003, Big East begins to look at adding teams to replace Va Tech and Miami.
September 2003, MU's name mentioned for Big East
November 4, 2003, Marquette invited to join the Big East
The Big East was not expanding until they lost members, which was one month after we went to the Final Four. With MU coming off a Final Four, we were a hot property which made perfect sense. DePaul was not bad back then and they could deliver Chicago and made for an ideal travel partner.
Let us put this another way, if Va Tech and BC and Miami had left in 2001 instead of April 2003, would Marquette have been invited? The selection would have been considerably more up in the air.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BS8jAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M0UEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6590,3717250&dq=marquette+big+east&hl=en
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BS? It was in his backyard with his wife and my wife. No BS at all. I'm tiring of your accusations. We were at their house for several hours then on to the Disney parks.
I joined Scoop months before the Bail Bondsmen was kicked out, but you guys ignore this. I was accused of using an improper email address, Rocky helped me correct that and my email is right there for all to see. Please feel free to send me one if you wish. Yes, we use VPN at work, it's required whenever we go on the internet or communicate via email. This is rather common these days for corporations. It was at my last company and no different with this one.
I'm sure he is chuckling that a year later you guys still can't get over him, much like the same guys can't get over Crean 4 years over. Pattern? Absolutely.
If you aren't CBB, it seems a little strange to seek out an anonymous poster on the internet and meet up, maybe that's just me.
Well, you got one part right. 4ever is funny. The rest of you aren't. Nothing worse then someone who thinks they are funny and then practicing their humor consistently to the applause of their own hands only. You only hope someone can whisper in their ear to tell them the truth, they aren't funny and only entertain themselves and their small circus of unfunny compadres.
4ever is funny. ;D
Might I direct you to the following thread, perhaps you should take a look in the mirror.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32016.msg381247#msg381247 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32016.msg381247#msg381247)
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I4 is a happy man today. Zeller and Watford returning. With their recruiting class, especially that Yogi Ferrell PG, they will be very good. Oh well......
Yes, they have a point guard now for next year which is troubling. They played this year basically without one and if you pressed them you could turn them over. They will be really good next year with extremely high expectations. The Packers will be really good next year also, but as a Bears fan apparently I am not allowed to make that obvious statement (Purdue fans can't say IU will be good, Bears fans can't say Packers will be good. To be a fan you must ignore reality. ::) )
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Yes, they have a point guard now for next year which is troubling. They played this year basically without one and if you pressed them you could turn them over. They will be really good next year with extremely high expectations. The Packers will be really good next year also, but as a Bears fan apparently I am not allowed to make that obvious statement (Purdue fans can't say IU will be good, Bears fans can't say Packers will be good. To be a fan you must ignore reality. ::) )
Lent is over. Your penchant for self flagellation is ill-timed.
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Hoopaloop: "Honey? When we get to California, would you mind if you, me and the kids spend a few hours with a guy I never met, but have conversed with online?"
Mrs. Hoopaloop: "Considering that's how we met, that sounds like a great idea. I can't wait."
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PRN
Nicely done!
Hoop
4ever is frickin clever, best of the bunch.
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"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink with ChicosBailBonds."
Absolutely hilarious. It would be interesting to drink with The Bail Bondsman but within the hour he would piss me off and force me to kick his ass
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PRN
Nicely done!
Hoop
4ever is frickin clever, best of the bunch.
Nah 4never is overrated. ;D
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Hoopaloop: "Honey? When we get to California, would you mind if you, me and the kids spend a few hours with a guy I never met, but have conversed with online?"
Mrs. Hoopaloop: "Considering that's how we met, that sounds like a great idea. I can't wait."
Why, yes and no. Not exactly like that but can fill in the details for you. He had some tickets for us to the theme parks (Disney) that I asked him for several weeks prior to heading out there. I'm pretty confident that he has hooked up a number of people on this board with tickets, Direct tv stuff, auction items, you name it. Through his job he got us some tickets for the two parks so we picked them up and stayed awhile.
Why does trouble you? Our intent was to come over for an hour and have a beer before going back to the hotel. We stayed more like 2 hours and had a good time.
From what I understand, other MU fans have been to his place over the years. I do not remember the names but he mentioned probably a half dozen or so. I recall him saying he has also met up with a bunch of guys at NCAA games in San Diego, Anahaim, San Jose and Boise, even took one of the mods here to a Packers game in Dallas a number of years ago. Do not know the name, sorry.
Maybe instead of chastizing him, Norm and the others here like you did last week, you could be a bit less hostile (or were you attempting humor and not very good at it). You can be really disrespectful at times. Only my opinion, but we are all Marquette fans here and there is no need for it. Opinions are a good thing.
My wife and I did not meet that way and it is really of no concern of yours how we met, though I find it to be a cute story. Maybe one day you will have that beer with me as I offered months ago but you declined and called it creepy.
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I still genuinely believe that it is 2 people, but that Chicos got a friend to sign up and they both post under the same name. That last post does not sound like Chicos. Now, everything on the Trayvon Martin thread? I agree with tower here -- it screams Chicos.
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Would be an interesting poll topic for the board: Is Hoopaloop Chicos? Yes, No or Who Cares being the 3 options.
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I put him/them on "Ignore" a while back. Try it, you'll like it.
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Chicos, congrats on your soon to be 800th post since banishment. You'll be back to 11,839 in no time.
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We were at their house for several hours then on to the Disney parks.
Several hours, beers included and THEN to Disney? Hmmmm. Was this a breakfast meeting? Seems odd!
Speaking of which, your story about asking me to meet for a beer is a complete fabrication. It never happened. Maybe if you plan to take your kids to Great America some day, you can stop for a few hours and a few beers first. Bring your wife, too.
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Several hours, beers included and THEN to Disney? Hmmmm. Was this a breakfast meeting? Seems odd!
Seems odd? Smells like BS to me
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Several hours, beers included and THEN to Disney? Hmmmm. Was this a breakfast meeting? Seems odd!
Speaking of which, your story about asking me to meet for a beer is a complete fabrication. It never happened. Maybe if you plan to take your kids to Great America some day, you can stop for a few hours and a few beers first. Bring your wife, too.
Can't drink all day if you don't start early
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Seriously, this whole "did they/didn't they meet" crap is ridiculous. What is this, the 1980s? People who meet on the Internet meet in real life all the time. 30% of relationships start online, so why should friendships be different? I have met people from this website for halftime beers at Marquette games...is that weird too?
And if they were in California, presumably Hoop was on vacation. So am I to assume no one here has ever had a beer before noon while on vacation? I swear, people on this website sometimes seem more obsessed with the personal lives of Hoopaloop and Chicos than they are Marquette basketball.
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Several hours, beers included and THEN to Disney? Hmmmm. Was this a breakfast meeting? Seems odd!
No, it was around lunch to mid afternoon. He hooked us up with hopper passes that allows us to jump back and forth between Disneyland and California Adventure theme parks. He provided passes for three days. We met with them, had a good time and stayed an extra hour or so. Went to the hotel, then spent about 5 or 6 hours at Disneyland. Next day returned all day at both parks. The day after that we spent about a half day. We were tired.
Are there any other questions? Would Warthog like to make another BS challenge, you two seem in tandem.
Speaking of which, your story about asking me to meet for a beer is a complete fabrication. It never happened. Maybe if you plan to take your kids to Great America some day, you can stop for a few hours and a few beers first. Bring your wife, too.
To start with, I've been to Great America more times than I care to remember. Going back to the days when it was Marriott's Great America in the late 1970's. The old Sky Whirl ride, which is now gone. The Demon (which had another name back then which escapes me).
I do not recall if it was you that I asked for a beer with, but I certainly said I was happy to meet with you and others but on the condition that I get to bring my camera so you guys can do a huge apology to everyone. If you weren't one of the ones I offered the beer to, then I am wrong and I apologize. Maybe it was a different Scooper.
Here's what I ultimately don't get with you and Warthog, Dimes and others that are somehow stunned by the idea that people can meet. We're all Marquette fans. We do things for Marquette fans. On a whim, I asked if he knew good places to stay in Anahaim for Disney and what tickets would cost. He said don't buy anything, let me see what I can do. Later he donated some sports autographed merchandise for an auction. I know he donated stuff for that poor young kid with Cancer here. Has he ever met that kid with cancer? He's had other people here at Scoop go to his house, had he met any of them prior? We're all MU fans. Weren't you the one that sent him patches or stickers or something of Willie Wampum? Have you ever met Chicos, yet you sent them to him anyway? I think it was you, because he has a really cool display of MU stuff at his home and pointed out a bunch of things he has received from various posters over the years.
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And if they were in California, presumably Hoop was on vacation. So am I to assume no one here has ever had a beer before noon while on vacation? I swear, people on this website sometimes seem more obsessed with the personal lives of Hoopaloop and Chicos than they are Marquette basketball.
Highly unlikely any wife on vacation agrees to such a stupid meet. At least none of the women I know/
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Highly unlikely any wife on vacation agrees to such a stupid meet. At least none of the women I know/
For free stuff? Certainly they would. Women are frugal at their core.
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For free stuff? Certainly they would. Women are frugal at their core.
The Puerto Rican put it best:
Hoopaloop: "Honey? When we get to California, would you mind if you, me and the kids spend a few hours with a guy I never met, but have conversed with online?" No self respecting woman sits in a strangers backyard and watches her husband shoot the sh1t on MU basketball for 10 minutes, much less a couple hours. Hell, my wife was a Marquette cheerleader and she would sh1tcan this idea in a NY second.
The point is that Hoop and The Bail Bondsman are one and the same. All of this is mental masturbation on Chicos part.
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This thread has made me realize there is a glaring need for "missed connections" or "let's meet up" section for MUScoop. Move over eHarmony, MUScoop is the new place to meet bros to talk about mubb and maybe have a beer while doing so! (scandalous!)
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This thread has made me realize there is a glaring need for "missed connections" or "let's meet up" section for MUScoop. Move over eHarmony, MUScoop is the new place to meet bros to talk about mubb and maybe have a beer while doing so! (scandalous!)
a beer or a Madison handshake.
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This thread has made me realize there is a glaring need for "missed connections" or "let's meet up" section for MUScoop. Move over eHarmony, MUScoop is the new place to meet bros to talk about mubb and maybe have a beer while doing so! (scandalous!)
Only if JayBee approves everyone beforehand based on attractiveness.
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It is beyond comical that Hoop continues to deny the truth. Warthog description of how he sold the LA meet and greet to his wife is priceless. If I asked my old lady to meet someone off the Scoop it would be three minutes of laughter followed by "are you fxxkin nuts?" I love Hoop has been outed by everyone and still clings to the fact he is not Chico's.
Do liked the missed connection idea for the Scoop. This actually has been the best collection of work by warthog and PRN on the site in long time. Give Hoop credit for never backing down, sounds like another guy that posted 11000 times on here. If by a miracle it is two different people the odds of them hooking up on here and in LA is off the charts.
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Chicos, congrats on your soon to be 800th post since banishment. You'll be back to 11,839 in no time.
Congratulations Redforeskin on your first ever post here.
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The Puerto Rican put it best:
Hoopaloop: "Honey? When we get to California, would you mind if you, me and the kids spend a few hours with a guy I never met, but have conversed with online?" No self respecting woman sits in a strangers backyard and watches her husband shoot the sh1t on MU basketball for 10 minutes, much less a couple hours. Hell, my wife was a Marquette cheerleader and she would sh1tcan this idea in a NY second.
The point is that Hoop and The Bail Bondsman are one and the same. All of this is mental masturbation on Chicos part.
I don't put people on ignore, but when you start calling out my wife, who is a wonderful woman, I have some problems with that. I'm sure you've never been roped into going somewhere with your wife to meet people you didn't know. I have. In this particular case, the reverse happened. He hooked us up, my wife had no issues meeting new people. He was very generous. Made the Christmas card list.
I welcome all ideas and all inputs from people, but calling out someone's wife when you have never met her is wrong. I expect more from our American servicemen.
IGNORE
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Nicely done Hoop!
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Congratulations Redforeskin on your first ever post here.
C'mon Bail Bondsman. Admit the truth. You will feel better. Much better. Only the truth can set you free.
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I swear, people on this website sometimes seem more obsessed with the personal lives of Hoopaloop and Chicos than they are Marquette basketball.
Sorry Brew, nobody here is obsessed with Chicos or Hoop's personal life, but when you talk about your personal life regularly on a message board and include some downright odd stories about yourself in the accounts, you're gonna catch some shyte over it.
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Seriously, this whole "did they/didn't they meet" crap is ridiculous. What is this, the 1980s? People who meet on the Internet meet in real life all the time. 30% of relationships start online, so why should friendships be different? I have met people from this website for halftime beers at Marquette games...is that weird too?
And if they were in California, presumably Hoop was on vacation. So am I to assume no one here has ever had a beer before noon while on vacation? I swear, people on this website sometimes seem more obsessed with the personal lives of Hoopaloop and Chicos than they are Marquette basketball.
Brew, what is ridiculous is Chicos creating this whole alter ego and inventing mythology of how Hoop knows Chicos. It is beyond weird, actually. His account of the Backyard Summit is rubbish. I really don't think any of us care about Jamie's personal life. We are really responding to the fictitious relationship he threw out for our consumption.
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Lenny
I disagree I am very interested in Hoop and Chico's personal life. Not often do you hear about such a perfect relationship formed in a basketball forum. I wish I hadn't pissed everyone off over the Buzz issue because I have a bottle of red waiting to be opened. Just wish I could get a fellow poster to join me and discuss the woes of the world with me. I would even add State Fair tickets...sorry closet amusement venue to my location.
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FYI I saw that Hoop and Chico's are exchanging Christmas cards and think that is great. Just want to let anyone that wants my address for their list that Mrs. Goose stopped sending cards a few years ago so don't get your feelings hurt. Do you think Hoop and Chico's exchange Sweetest Day cards as well?
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FYI I saw that Hoop and Chico's are exchanging Christmas cards and think that is great.
I noted that and thought it was a very nice touch. I can only hope they make it Hallmark...when you care enough to send the very best.
The Backyard Summit must have been one helluva time!
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The Backyard Summit had to include a tanning booth for the adults and Tommy balloons for the kids. To be a fly on the wall hearing two grown men blowing TC over beers and war stories.
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The Chicks Hoop Backyard Summit. Kinda like Yalta, Potsdam, and Reykivik all rolled into one.
And how many divisions has The Pope?
None but could I get some passes for Disneyland?
Only if you stay out of Poland.
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The Chicks Hoop Backyard Summit. Kinda like Yalta, Potsdam, and Reykivik all rolled into one.
And how many divisions has The Pope?
None but could I get some passes for Disneyland?
Only if you stay out of Poland.
Amen. Well done colonel.