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Title: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: #MUBB on January 04, 2012, 08:32:15 PM
You'd think we would all be numb to this by now...
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: muguru on January 04, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
It hurts because of the talent level on this team. A team as talented as this one should NOT lose 17 point leads. Period. Just an absolutely disgusting loss. And Buzz wants to sit Chris down for the rest of the year, when he's physically able to play?? Good call, Buzz.  ?-(
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Warriors10 on January 04, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
Because we are about to get killed by the #1 team in the country.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: denverMU on January 04, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
Because we stopped playing defense.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Blackhat on January 04, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
That's not poop hurting your butt.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 04, 2012, 08:44:40 PM
It took me record time to get over this loss.    

Just another plaque on the Choke Hall of Fame.  Just gotta find some room on the wall to mount it.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Jacks DC on January 04, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
Allowing a team to shoot 63% at this level is inexcusable for both the players and coaches.

We looked awesome in the first half and I still expected us to lose when we were up 15.  It hurts that I've seen this movie so many times that I expect it. 
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Blackhat on January 04, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
Your point on fg % sums up my continuous frustrations with Buzz after 3 years.   It's the same each year.   He needs to find a way to add length to this team or it will be this same crap.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 04, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
It hurts because you are a little bitch.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: #MUBB on January 04, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
It hurts because you are a little bitch.

Thanks bud.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: groove on January 04, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
Allowing a team to shoot 63% at this level is inexcusable for both the players and coaches.

We looked awesome in the first half and I still expected us to lose when we were up 15.  It hurts that I've seen this movie so many times that I expect it. 

And if I'm not mistaken, as well as we played in the first half, Georgetown still shot 50% in the first half.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Jacks DC on January 04, 2012, 09:11:29 PM
The defense was never there, but the offense was dominant early on.

The thing is, I expected us to lose by 5-8 points.  So losing by 3 to a very good team on the road doesn't seem too bad.  Just losing in that fashion, again, is crushing.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Les Nessman on January 04, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
It hurts because you are a little bitch.

Hahaha
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Desert_warrior on January 04, 2012, 09:26:45 PM
Could be the third ranked team and lose to Temple.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Markusquette on January 04, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
Could be the third ranked team and lose to Temple.

It doesn't hurt nearly as bad when you're trailing almost all game.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: 🏀 on January 04, 2012, 10:52:57 PM
Could be the third ranked team and lose to Temple.

And wildy overranked.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: wojosdojo on January 04, 2012, 11:10:14 PM
...because as soon as the lead got down to about 12 and trickled down you knew everything was going to go gtowns way. When the lead was cutting down all I asked is that we gave them contested shots but it was just layup after open shot after layup. I'm at the point where I'm asking myself if I can watch these games anymore. Yikes.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2012, 04:21:08 AM
It took me record time to get over this loss.    

Just another plaque on the Choke Hall of Fame.  Just gotta find some room on the wall to mount it.

+1

I didn't think this one hurt nearly as much. I guess because I never felt like the game was won. I remember saying in the chat that GTown still had a run, the only problem was that we didn't respond until they had the lead. This didn't feel anything like Louisville to me. That one was gut-wrenching.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 05, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
It's pretty sad when we have to take solace in the fact that a particular bad loss was not as wrenching as another.
The fact of the matter is, they spit the bit. I wasn't able to watch it, but it sounds like a LVille replay. My feeling then was that this team is LOUSY when they start to milk the clock, and the offense disappears. Is this a defect that coaching can correct?
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: bilsu on January 05, 2012, 07:37:48 AM
It hurts, because most of hoped rpior to the start of the game that we would win, but knew we probably lose. Get up 17 and hope turns into no way we lose this game and then get it ripped away from us. If this game was played in +4-4 range it would not of hurt.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: ATWizJr on January 05, 2012, 07:47:33 AM
It hurts, because most of hoped rpior to the start of the game that we would win, but knew we probably lose. Get up 17 and hope turns into no way we lose this game and then get it ripped away from us. If this game was played in +4-4 range it would not of hurt.
Bilsu nailed it here.  Does anyone have the clip from Glengary Glen Ross when Alec Baldwin is berating them about leads and closing?  If so, please post.  This team needs that lecture.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 05, 2012, 08:20:39 AM
It hurts, because most of hoped rpior to the start of the game that we would win, but knew we probably lose. Get up 17 and hope turns into no way we lose this game and then get it ripped away from us. If this game was played in +4-4 range it would not of hurt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion

"loss aversion refers to people's tendency to strongly prefer avoiding losses to acquiring gains. Some studies suggest that losses are twice as powerful, psychologically, as gains."

science'd
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 05, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
I'm starting to believe MU may not be a basketball team at all, but rather, a laboratory conducting experiments each season  to determine which leads (if any) are ever safe.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 05, 2012, 09:02:51 AM
I am with Hilltopper. I got overit quickly. I was wondering why and I think, in addition to kind of expecting it with the big lead...I actually thought we played really well most of the game. Let's not lose sight of that.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: MileHigh on January 05, 2012, 09:14:57 AM
I think it has been said over and over again that we have seen this story before.  But going into last night's game, with losses at LSU and getting ran off our own court by Vandy, that we really needed a bounce back.  The win against Nova was a bounce back after a loss, but it wasn't a decisive win.  We almost blew that game too.

Going into this week, we are facing two top 10 teams.  I was hoping we would go 1-1, even though 2-0 would be better :)  A win at Georgetown and a lose at the Carrier Dome.  This loss last night hurt so much, because blowing a 17 pt lead is demoralizing.  Going into this week, I thought we could play even with Syracuse.  But after last night's choke, what is the confidence of the team going into Syracuse?

That's why it hurts, b/c I'm afraid to see what happens at Syracuse.  Oh well, at the end of the day it's just a game.  You go through some tough patches, let's see where we are come March!
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2012, 09:16:50 AM
It's pretty sad when we have to take solace in the fact that a particular bad loss was not as wrenching as another.
The fact of the matter is, they spit the bit. I wasn't able to watch it, but it sounds like a LVille replay. My feeling then was that this team is LOUSY when they start to milk the clock, and the offense disappears. Is this a defect that coaching can correct?

Last night, to me, didn't feel like UL at all aside from the deficit overcame. GTown stopped making stupid turnovers and their shots started falling. Their defense tightened up, but it didn't feel like the pissing on our shoes. This felt a lot more like them taking it than us giving it away. I always knew the run was coming. We closed the half on a 20-5, it's no surprise they could go on a 34-14 run of their own.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: Bocephys on January 05, 2012, 10:21:38 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion

"loss aversion refers to people's tendency to strongly prefer avoiding losses to acquiring gains. Some studies suggest that losses are twice as powerful, psychologically, as gains."

science'd

Exactly, every time we get a lead it seems like we're playing to avoid mistakes instead of going for the jugular.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: UticaBusBarn on January 05, 2012, 12:42:19 PM
It hurts so much, because losing is painful. It is particularly painful when the team is the best team since Coach Williams arrived. It double particularly painful because a CYO team probably could have protected a 17 point lead. It is triple painful because Coach Williams hurt his team, etc., etc. Frankly, this was worse than the Louisville loss last year. It should not have happened. And, sadly, it will take a while for the team to over-come what can only be called an ignorant loss.
Title: Re: Why does it hurt so much?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2012, 02:07:11 PM
Worse than Louisville? You mus' be out yo damn mind! Reasons UL was worse:

1) At that point, we seemed to finally be getting a quality win away from home, something we already have this year with wins over Ole Miss, UW, the other UW, and to a lesser extent, Norfolk State.
2) This happened in 13 minutes and change, that was under 6 minutes.
3) This year we look like a NCAA lock, last year that was in doubt until March.
4) IT WAS GODDAMN LOSERVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!

When Louisville got close, I grabbed a bucket because I honestly thought I was going to puke because NO TEAM has been as responsible for our heartbreak as they have been. I absolutely hate that team, their coach, and pretty much everything about them (except for being in a conference with them). Us choking to UL is like the Packers losing to the Bears, the Yankees choking away the ALCS to the Red Sox, or Manchester United getting destroyed by Manchester City. Georgetown, aside from when we play them, I generally like and respect.

Not at all the same. That was 10,000,000,000,000 times worse.