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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: duanewade on March 18, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
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Saw it coming the whole time and it still happened just like a nightmare in spite of multiple opportunities to pull ourselves out of it....officiating also was a difference in this game.
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in all honesty i think everyone saw this coming..no one could have scripted this better
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We freaking suck. I hate how we do this every damn year.
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Officiating was def a difference. I hate to blame the refs but common, ticky tack garbage and phantom fouls
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Whatever Jimmy Butler Is SOFT as jello! He should be embarrassed after tonight.
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again i really beleive we deserved to lose that game, thats why im not to crazy about this. The way we played defense those last ten minutes and how we got scared to score the ball we should have lost. So its all good. Next year will be fun to watch
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Seriously, is there any way Marquette could actually be the team to hit a last second shot in the tourney?
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I love Buzz as much as anyone but he got outcoached on this one also.....sent the team into a shell with a 15 point lead and once this team starts playing timid and the other team gets momentum they revert back to the FSU and NC State losses and start to see it slip away.
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Whatever Jimmy Butler Is SOFT as jello! He should be embarrassed after tonight
He had a terrible game
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Whatever Jimmy Butler Is SOFT as jello! He should be embarrassed after tonight.
Unfortunately, Jimmy is not Zar.
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Seriously, is there any way Marquette could actually be the team to hit a last second shot in the tourney?
Hell no. We have every single basketball god against us!
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After hitting that shot at St. Johns, Jimmy kind of disappeared down the stretch. Believe me, I'm not blaming him, but he seemed real uncomfortable on the court the last few minutes.
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Live and learn boys....
Great year, let's make it six in a row next year, keep it building!
Only one team ends the season happy. Pass the RWB's
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Couldn't agree more Jimmy Butler played way too soft tonight. Nice help side defense there on the last possession by Lazar. Oh nevermind....
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What a fitting way to end the season. Blowing a 15 point lead and loosing the game in the final seconds. However, this was still a succesful season considering how much we lost and our preseason expectations.
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As soon as we got up by 15, I knew we were going to blow it. That was the worst thing that could have happened, having such a big lead. Not surprised to lose another heartbreaker, just pissed at myself for actually thinking we had a chance
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Honestly, when then were pulling away early in the second half, I kept feeling worse because I knew UW would come back and the bigger the comeback the bigger the momentum wave that carries them.
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where was Zar with the help defense. It was like he boxed everyone out to clear the lane for pondexter after he beat jimmy
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I love Buzz as much as anyone but he got outcoached on this one also.....sent the team into a shell with a 15 point lead and once this team starts playing timid and the other team gets momentum they revert back to the FSU and NC State losses and start to see it slip away.
No..he didn't get outcoached - he got hosebagged by the refs. When we went up 15..UW resorted to overdenying everything, hounding the hell out of Acker..while hacking him, bumping him...not one call. Refs let UW get away with extremely agressive D. When you defend that hard, there are fouls that can be called. Refs decided to swallow the whistle. Unless of course it meant giving Pondexter a call...after the refs saw the ball didn't go in..with a terrible late whistle.
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I am as frustrated as everyone else but can we really blame the loss on the referees when we blew a 15 point lead in the second half and gave up 5+ offensive rebounds in the last two minutes?
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Whatever Jimmy Butler Is SOFT as jello! He should be embarrassed after tonight.
i can't blame him too much for that D on the winning shot, acker or cubillan should have dropped on the drive to help on the low block. but i've never seen a forward pass up so many shots inside 8ft. even the commentators said he didnt want to shoot.
edit: just replayed it, the color guy (forgot his name) said as Jimmy passed it off to DJO, "Butler was hesitant, didn't want the shot..."
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where was Zar with the help defense. It was like he boxed everyone out to clear the lane for pondexter after he beat jimmy
The crazy thing was we got burned a lot by helping that lead to a kick out for three, but the one time they had to help, nobody did.
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I love Buzz as much as anyone but he got outcoached on this one also.....sent the team into a shell with a 15 point lead and once this team starts playing timid and the other team gets momentum they revert back to the FSU and NC State losses and start to see it slip away.
What was with Cubillan running the point. He was just sitting out in no-mans-land dribbling away until he realized there was a shot clock. I was seriously questioning Buzz's decision not to have Acker handling the ball. Our offense stagnated and we stopped playing defense and they shot themselves back into the game.
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Couldn't agree more Jimmy Butler played way too soft tonight. Nice help side defense there on the last possession by Lazar. Oh nevermind....
We had to lead the country in blown, double digit second half leads this season (even if we hung on to win).....FSU, NC State, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Washington....I'm probably forgetting a couple.
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Good Game MU, your team is tough, I give you serious props and respect, but no one gave UW any, and now we can show why we were a top 15 team starting the season. This was good for us since we came in under the radar. Jay Bilas can suck it, so can Matt Jones, who said this on cbssports.com
20. You Will Not Watch Marquette vs Washington: Its totally unwatchable basketball. Grind it out, punch each other in the face, game in the 50s. If this game were a movie, it would be anything starring Sandra Bullock, pre-"Blind Side." Avoid at all costs.
WRONG WRONG WRONG, MU played a great game hit 3's like I've never seen, Hayward is for real and they rebound like champs despite their size. UW can run with ANYONE, we are built for speed and offense and thrive on pushing the rock, good call Matt, a game in the 50's, apparently he's never seen Marquette play either cause they both lit it up
21. Having Said That, Marquette is the Lock of the Year: Washington has literally no chance of winning this game...NO CHANCE. Right now the line is a pick 'em...Vegas didnt watch Washington play and neither did you. They won the Pac 10 Tournament, but you, me, Spero Dedes, Dan Werner and Ali from Northern Iowa could have won the Pac 10 Tournament this year. Put it all on Marquette.
No chance? Pac-10 might be down but I hope this will prove we can play. Marquette your team is tough, good luck next year.
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Live and learn boys....
Great year, let's make it six in a row next year, keep it building!
Only one team ends the season happy. Pass the RWB's
It's going to take a lot longer than 10 minutes to get over this loss.
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No..he didn't get outcoached - he got hosebagged by the refs. When we went up 15..UW resorted to overdenying everything, hounding the hell out of Acker..while hacking him, bumping him...not one call. Refs let UW get away with extremely agressive D. When you defend that hard, there are fouls that can be called. Refs decided to swallow the whistle. Unless of course it meant giving Pondexter a call...after the refs saw the ball didn't go in..with a terrible late whistle.
^This. There's NO WAY we had more team fouls than they did in the second half. It's simply impossible. Mo was getting abused.
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No..he didn't get outcoached - he got hosebagged by the refs. When we went up 15..UW resorted to overdenying everything, hounding the hell out of Acker..while hacking him, bumping him...not one call. Refs let UW get away with extremely agressive D. When you defend that hard, there are fouls that can be called. Refs decided to swallow the whistle. Unless of course it meant giving Pondexter a call...after the refs saw the ball didn't go in..with a terrible late whistle.
that was so bad I couldn't do anything but laugh. "Oh, he missed the shot with an airball? I guess there must have been a foul!"
How about the jump stop by them before Zar's third foul. jump stop from the left box into the lane, no shot there, he then steps back to his left where he started from (after a complete stop) and that's NOT a travel?
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They made their layups, we didn't. they were able to drive to the basket without penalty and were aided by no calls on their very agressive defense. Our defense didn't hold up and our offense flailed. sad ending to a very exciting year
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What horrible offense.. Every time they get a big lead they go to a slow it down offense and give it all right back. Fooking stomp on their throats and keep the momentum going. Not settle for a last second shot or turn the ball over... That does nothing for our rebounding disadvantage and doesn't play into their style of D.
We got buzzed no doubt about. Yeah the refs pissed me off to but thats no excuse for the offensive clusterfook
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Please don't blame the refs.
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UW pretty much erased DJO in the second half, and Butler was awful all night (in part thanks to the refs ). End of story. A 6-5 Center and a 5-8 PG cannot beat a team like that by themselves, even though they came pretty close.
I know now why we got a 6 seed...UW was no 11 seed. Probably a fair amount of proceedure in that match-up. That was an 8-9 game if I've ever seen one.
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No..he didn't get outcoached - he got hosebagged by the refs. When we went up 15..UW resorted to overdenying everything, hounding the hell out of Acker..while hacking him, bumping him...not one call. Refs let UW get away with extremely agressive D. When you defend that hard, there are fouls that can be called. Refs decided to swallow the whistle. Unless of course it meant giving Pondexter a call...after the refs saw the ball didn't go in..with a terrible late whistle.
I kind of felt the same way... there was a lot of bumping, handchecking, and swiping that wasn't called. I don't usually blame refs but that was evident to me. Also, I understand Lazar didn't want to pick up any fouls on D, but when he decided to part ways like the Red Sea and let Washington drive by, he would never even put a hand up; same thing happened when he was the 2nd help defender. Horrible defense throughout the game, we let them dictate the pace from the outset, and there was a lot of handchecking/bumping that just wasn't called.
In the end, great season. We'll all feel better tomorrow.
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Please don't blame the refs.
go away. you are not wanted here.
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UW was ranked #9 preseason they are very talented. We lost the game becuase we could not rebound.
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I am as frustrated as everyone else but can we really blame the loss on the referees when we blew a 15 point lead in the second half and gave up 5+ offensive rebounds in the last two minutes?
yes did you watch the game.
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go away. you are not wanted here.
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oh +++++++++++++1 wow, okay, you guys were up 15 and you blew it. 15! Nice work choke artists.
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You know how pathetic it sounds when people on this board consistently blame the refs after every loss? The refs were consistently calling it close. People always remember the close calls that go against them, but they never remember the calls that go for them.
Did they miss some? Sure. But Romar changed up his defense and we blew a 15 point lead.
Jesus, you people sound like a bunch of whiney losers.
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I kind of felt the same way... there was a lot of bumping, handchecking, and swiping that wasn't called. I don't usually blame refs but that was evident to me. Also, I understand Lazar didn't want to pick up any fouls on D, but when he decided to part ways like the Red Sea and let Washington drive by, he would never even put a hand up; same thing happened when he was the 2nd help defender. Horrible defense throughout the game, we let them dictate the pace from the outset, and there was a lot of handchecking/bumping that just wasn't called.
In the end, great season. We'll all feel better tomorrow.
Yea, Zar did that a few times that lead to gravy baskets. It's not like he had 4 fouls either.
I thought the huge key for Washington was Turner. Those four threes were huge from a guy averaging 5 points on the year.
We were great offensively overall except for Butler, we just couldn't get stops or get defensive rebounds late.
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oh +++++++++++++1 wow, okay, you guys were up 15 and you blew it. 15! Nice work choke artists.
Yeesh, trash talking IN a Marquette forum? Good luck hacking your way to the sweet 16.
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this MU team always reminded me of that team that lost to Tulsa in the first round---forget what year that was. We are back on the way up
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You know how pathetic it sounds when people on this board consistently blame the refs after every loss? The refs were consistently calling it close. People always remember the close calls that go against them, but they never remember the calls that go for them.
Did they miss some? Sure. But Romar changed up his defense and we blew a 15 point lead.
Jesus, you people sound like a bunch of whiney losers.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you!!!! ++++++++++++++++++1
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Yeesh, trash talking IN a Marquette forum? Good luck hacking your way to the sweet 16.
Thanks, enjoy the rest of the tourney without a rooting interest. Hacking? How about blowing a 15 point lead? Good luck choking your way through the rest of the off season.d
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No..he didn't get outcoached - he got hosebagged by the refs. When we went up 15..UW resorted to overdenying everything, hounding the hell out of Acker..while hacking him, bumping him...not one call. Refs let UW get away with extremely agressive D. When you defend that hard, there are fouls that can be called. Refs decided to swallow the whistle. Unless of course it meant giving Pondexter a call...after the refs saw the ball didn't go in..with a terrible late whistle.
sorry, he got outcoached, again, by simply trying to slow the play, again, after getting a double digit lead, again. there's way too much time left to turn to milk the clock type offense, especially against a team that won the Pac-10*. did the refs seemingly let UW get away with more physical play in the 2nd half, sure did. but that's what happens when one team appears to be playing on their heals and one is being the aggressor. roles were reversed when MU was taking it to UW. you look weak/timid in the face of aggressive play refs/announcers/fans aren't going to see you being fouled, just being out played by the better team.
* i know it's a down year for the Pac-10, but it's still a bcs league, and their best teams in a down year are as good or better than most mid major teams in a good year and in the same ballpark as Big East #5- 12 teams.
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You know how pathetic it sounds when people on this board consistently blame the refs after every loss? The refs were consistently calling it close. People always remember the close calls that go against them, but they never remember the calls that go for them.
Did they miss some? Sure. But Romar changed up his defense and we blew a 15 point lead.
Jesus, you people sound like a bunch of whiney losers.
It's not whining if it is justifiable. It was obvious Romar told his guys your season is on the line..you have to go all out on D..and they did..but..they also fouled the hell out of Acker..one guy asked why Cooby was handling the ball so much down the stretch..the reason..because they were bodying the hell out of Acker..and we couldn't get a call. When you can't initiate offense, due to the other team being able to body the hell out of your point guard as soon as he crosses half court..its hard to score. In fact they called an offensive fould against MO..in the 2nd half when the UW player was riding his body..hard..for about the 5 possession in a row..when Mo dropped his shouler on him a bit..just to get him off of him..as he'd been riding his body for 25 feet. The officiating was a JOKE..and I hope Buzz rips it in the press conference. BS call on Jimmy on a rebound attempt against Pondexter..where they both jump simultaneously and Jimmy is in better rebounding position..and Pondexter goes to the ground..foul..Jimmy
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Thanks, enjoy the rest of the tourney without a rooting interest. Hacking? How about blowing a 15 point lead? Good luck choking your way through the rest of the off season.d
with dentist in your screen name I am picturing someone in their 30's or 40's. I would hope an actual adult would have a little more class.
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Thanks, enjoy the rest of the tourney without a rooting interest. Hacking? How about blowing a 15 point lead? Good luck choking your way through the rest of the off season.d
Oh, I'll have a rooting interest. At this point, it begins with New Mexico/Montana.
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with dentist in your screen name I am picturing someone in their 30's or 40's. I would hope an actual adult would have a little more class.
29, thanks though, quit whining about the refs.
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Oh, I'll have a rooting interest. At this point, it begins with New Mexico/Montana.
:'(
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After hitting that shot at St. Johns, Jimmy kind of disappeared down the stretch. Believe me, I'm not blaming him, but he seemed real uncomfortable on the court the last few minutes.
Didn't he hit two game winners this season????
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sorry, he got outcoached, again, by simply trying to slow the play, again, after getting a double digit lead, again. there's way too much time left to turn to milk the clock type offense, especially against a team that won the Pac-10*. did the refs seemingly let UW get away with more physical play in the 2nd half, sure did. but that's what happens when one team appears to be playing on their heals and one is being the aggressor. roles were reversed when MU was taking it to UW. you look weak/timid in the face of aggressive play refs/announcers/fans aren't going to see you being fouled, just being out played by the better team.
* i know it's a down year for the Pac-10, but it's still a bcs league, and their best teams in a down year are as good or better than most mid major teams in a good year and in the same ballpark as Big East #5- 12 teams.
I can't argue with this. UW extended their defense and we had no response for about five minutes. Once we started to figure it out and break it down, it was a toss up game that we lost.
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29, thanks though, quit whining about the refs.
Really? And the best thing you can do with your life at the moment is to come on another team's board and rub salt in an open wound? I feel worse for you than I do for myself. So, in a way, thanks. I feel a little better.
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It's not whining if it is justifiable. It was obvious Romar told his guys your season is on the line..you have to go all out on D..and they did..but..they also fouled the hell out of Acker..one guy asked why Cooby was handling the ball so much down the stretch..the reason..because they were bodying the hell out of Acker..and we couldn't get a call. When you can't initiate offense, due to the other team being able to body the hell out of your point guard as soon as he crosses half court..its hard to score. In fact they called an offensive fould against MO..in the 2nd half when the UW player was riding his body..hard..for about the 5 possession in a row..when Mo dropped his shouler on him a bit..just to get him off of him..as he'd been riding his body for 25 feet. The officiating was a JOKE..and I hope Buzz rips it in the press conference. BS call on Jimmy on a rebound attempt against Pondexter..where they both jump simultaneously and Jimmy is in better rebounding position..and Pondexter goes to the ground..foul..Jimmy
UW extended their defense. We didn't respond.
Yeah, the call against Jimmy seemed odd. But those calls happen all of the time.
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Really? And the best thing you can do with your life at the moment is to come on another team's board and rub salt in an open wound? I feel worse for you than I do for myself. So, in a way, thanks. I feel a little better.
Glad I could help you need anything you can get after choking that hard.
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Really? And the best thing you can do with your life at the moment is to come on another team's board and rub salt in an open wound? I feel worse for you than I do for myself. So, in a way, thanks. I feel a little better.
I was thinking the same thing. I don't think I wasted 30 seconds on a Utah State forum after our first round win last year. I guess he's well aware that their demise comes next round (unless, of course, they're allowed to molest the opposing PG again, then they might win by 2...)
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UW was ranked #9 preseason they are very talented. We lost the game becuase we could not rebound.
We?????? Really, are you that desparate for attention. Try the peanut butter again with your husky.
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actaully MU did respond to UW's over play unfortunately we turned the ball over 3-4 times before we did. After that we spread the floor pretty well and drove the ball, unfortunately Acker and Cubillan both missed relatively uncontested layups off those drives.
As much as I loved Acker and Cooby's effort this year they were so severly undertalented compared to the guards of the other top BE teams. hat coupled with the lack of a defending rebounding big man and we really struggled to defend talented teams and Washington is a s talented as any team we played all year.
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actaully MU did respond to UW's over play unfortunately we turned the ball over 3-4 times before we did. After that we spread the floor pretty well and drove the ball, unfortunately Acker and Cubillan both missed relatively uncontested layups off those drives.
Fair point. But the basic point is that UW made a defensive change that we didn't figure out, and take advantage of, until we blew the entire lead.
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Glad I could help you need anything you can get after choking that hard.
That's a lot of smack talk from a fan of a team that barely won it's conference tournament which is the only reason they are not in the NIT.
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lets stop whining about the refs' and just accept the fact that buzz failed to coach at the ncaa tournament level needed to win, total defensive collapse , and jimmy butler was as soft as butttttahhhhhhhh!!!! matador defense and not going strong to the hoop because he is afraid of contact!
choke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at least those of you worried about losing buzz can now rest easy.
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Wow someone actually makes the guy who called the loss with 4 minutes left look like a great MU fan.