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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GGGG on September 23, 2009, 11:15:07 AM
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According to Yahoo News up above.
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Now what?
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Now what?
Pray that Otule is vastly, vastly, improved and Mbao can improve. With Clark out of picture, no bigs on the horizon. At least for now.
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Now what?
My guess is that we have about a 25% with Walker and Pinkston, and about a 40% chance with Blue.
I wouldn't doubt that we see at least one JUCO to balance out the Class of 2012.
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"after official visits at all three schools." ??
thought he was supposed to come to mu this weekend.
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My guess is that we have about a 25% with Walker and Pinkston, and about a 40% chance with Blue.
I wouldn't doubt that we see at least one JUCO to balance out the Class of 2012.
Pinkston is a Nova lean now according Zags. Buzz has an in home this week. Hopefully he can work some magic.
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This is a place we've been to before.
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This is a place we've been to before.
Yes it is.
What concerns me the most is that we have three openings, and we seem to be the favorites with none of the big targets to fill them. Everyone was talking about how Bowen was no big loss, but my guess is that he will be better than at least two of the three we get to fill those openings.
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For as much as you can rag on Deane's recruiting, wouldn't you just kill to have Jarrod Lovette right now?
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I wouldn't doubt that we see at least one JUCO to balance out the Class of 2012.
I agree. Class balance is still an issue, buzz will need to still find a JUCO or two to fix it.
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And the hits just keep on coming.
Seriously--we need bigs and are getting none!!!
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For as much as you can rag on Deane's recruiting, wouldn't you just kill to have Jarrod Lovette right now?
In the Big East? Not really. He would be acceptable, but I doubt he would get to double digits in scoring in the Big East.
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In the Big East? Not really. He would be acceptable, but I doubt he would get to double digits in scoring in the Big East.
Considering his performance against the Cinci's and UL's, I think he'd hold his own. It wasn't like he made his bones against UWM and shrunk in big games.
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Can we get any positive news on MU Bball and recruiting?
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ASU visit must have been so bad that it convinced him to commit to Wake without taking his visit to MU.
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Considering his performance against the Cinci's and UL's, I think he'd hold his own. It wasn't like he made his bones against UWM and shrunk in big games.
Perhaps, but from a consistency stand point he barely got double digits for full seasons which included the dregs
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/marquette/jarrod-lovette/team_impact
It all depends what Cincy games you look at. His point totals against Cincinnati are 5, 11, 6, 8 and 5. Against UWM, by the way, he had 2 points. Against Louisville he had 8 points, 19 and 19. He played well against UL. I look at what he did against Memphis...3, 4, 4
Against Wisconsin 0, 10
5 against Oklahoma State
I like Lovette, but I think as the years have gone by, he's become better in myth than reality. The numbers aren't there.
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Maybe Desrosiers was afraid of the injury gremlin that seems to stalk The Al. If a couple of the guys we signed would be able to play this wouldn't be such bad news. If you have Laim and Otule (+ one full year of play) on the roster we've got time to fix this problem.
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Can we get any positive news on MU Bball and recruiting?
Yep, Crean's ugly ass has been gone for 541 days.
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was afraid of the injury gremlin that seems to stalk The Al.
C'mon, the gremlins can't be any worse than having the entire football team waiting to jump your as soon as you leave your practice facility ;D
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Yep, Crean's ugly ass has been gone for 541 days.
Ahhh, your man-love for TC is showing again.... ::)
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Hmmmm, a recruit that we were in a high profile battle for goes somewhere else. If Buzz MO follows, we should have an announcement shortly of a recruit we did not even know we were in on.
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Hmmmm, a recruit that we were in a high profile battle for goes somewhere else. If Buzz MO follows, we should have an announcement shortly of a recruit we did not even know we were in on.
...and never heard of.
I thought Buzz was supposed to be this super-recruiter. All I keep seeing is close, but no cigar. Can't put a team of "almosts" on the court. C'mon, Buzz!
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He closed the deal on Junior, jeronne maymon, and Erik Williams not to mention the coup he committed by getting DJO out from under some pretty serious contenders.
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He closed the deal on Junior, jeronne maymon, and Erik Williams not to mention the coup he committed by getting DJO out from under some pretty serious contenders.
ok, how about someone over 6'7"? crean could get the little guys, too. maybe the ceilings are too low at mu and it scares the big guys away.
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He closed the deal on Junior, jeronne maymon, and Erik Williams not to mention the coup he committed by getting DJO out from under some pretty serious contenders.
With tons of playing time available to provide....Crean landed classes like that too. We'll have to see if Buzz can do this with multiple playing classes
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ok, how about someone over 6'7"? crean could get the little guys, too. maybe the ceilings are too low at mu and it scares the big guys away.
mmmmmmmm Bao? Another one out of nowhere. 7'2" at last check.
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mmmmmmmm Bao? Another one out of nowhere. 7'2" at last check.
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ok, over 6'7 and can ball.
reading this, why don't i feel optimistic?:
"Standing a tall 7’2 with intriguing athleticism to boot, Mbao (Unranked by Rivals, Scout, and ESPN) definitely passes the initial look test for a basketball prospect, even with his skinny frame that could use quite a few more pounds. He’s very long and fairly mobile, though he doesn’t seem to be at his physical peak just yet, lacking in coordination, conditioning, and quickness, all of which could improve over time, though.
Looking at his actual game, Mbao is clearly still a work in progress, not being able to consistently contribute much on the offensive end. He relies heavily on an awkward turnaround jumper in the post, which he actually hit a handful of times this weekend, but he struggles to get post positioning, he’s not especially quick with his moves, and he doesn’t show great awareness in choosing his moves. When trying to go to counter-moves, you see the game slow down dramatically for him, and it’s easy to see his effectiveness dropping when guarded by more formidable opponents.
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mmmmmmmm Bao? Another one out of nowhere. 7'2" at last check.
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ok, over 6'7 and can ball.
reading this, why don't i feel optimistic?:
"Standing a tall 7’2 with intriguing athleticism to boot, Mbao (Unranked by Rivals, Scout, and ESPN) definitely passes the initial look test for a basketball prospect, even with his skinny frame that could use quite a few more pounds. He’s very long and fairly mobile, though he doesn’t seem to be at his physical peak just yet, lacking in coordination, conditioning, and quickness, all of which could improve over time, though.
Looking at his actual game, Mbao is clearly still a work in progress, not being able to consistently contribute much on the offensive end. He relies heavily on an awkward turnaround jumper in the post, which he actually hit a handful of times this weekend, but he struggles to get post positioning, he’s not especially quick with his moves, and he doesn’t show great awareness in choosing his moves. When trying to go to counter-moves, you see the game slow down dramatically for him, and it’s easy to see his effectiveness dropping when guarded by more formidable opponents.
Big men don't just fall out of the sky. They don't even just fall out of the sky for the big schools. They are developed over time.
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Big men don't just fall out of the sky. They don't even just fall out of the sky for the big schools. They are developed over time.
Sure, but I don't recall reading similar reports on the guys we just missed on.
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In the Big East? Not really. He would be acceptable, but I doubt he would get to double digits in scoring in the Big East.
I'd take my chances with Jarrod than Trend.
And I just pray that Otule can hold the fort down for Mbao to develop a bit...just a year or two...
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But what do the co-ed's look like at Wake????
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I'd take my chances with Jarrod than Trend.
And I'd take him over Otoule, Ooze, Grimm, Burke and nearly every big man of the past 14 years except Robert Jackson. Sure that more of an indictment of our big man talent but you're kidding yourself if you think Lovette wouldn't have helped recently or would help this season.
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With tons of playing time available to provide....Crean landed classes like that too. We'll have to see if Buzz can do this with multiple playing classes
Fair point but I would argue Crean only landed 1 class like that (3 or more highly ranked recruits) and that was the 3 amigos. Buzz has landed 1 class like that now as well...agreed, let's see if he can follow up another class like this in the next 3-8 years.
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ok, how about someone over 6'7"? crean could get the little guys, too. maybe the ceilings are too low at mu and it scares the big guys away.
Over 6'7"? Ok that has yet to happen but while Crean landed some great guards I think you can check the upcoming program and see that EWilliams and JMaymon are both listed as forwards.
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We will never know, but I cannot help but thinking we can blame this loss on Monterle Clark. We were in Desrosiers final three and ended up not getting his schedule official visit. With Clark on the inside it was more likely Desrosiers could play on the outside. I think Wake won out in part because Desrosiers felt he would play on the outside for sure. MU has two project centers and ASU has a 7'2" nobody.
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We will never know, but I cannot help but thinking we can blame this loss on Monterle Clark. We were in Desrosiers final three and ended up not getting his schedule official visit. With Clark on the inside it was more likely Desrosiers could play on the outside. I think Wake won out in part because Desrosiers felt he would play on the outside for sure. MU has two project centers and ASU has a 7'2" nobody.
No.
CD and Clark are pretty much the same player. Both are looking to play on the wing, and not bang down low. Neither are "inside players."
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We will never know, but I cannot help but thinking we can blame this loss on Monterle Clark. We were in Desrosiers final three and ended up not getting his schedule official visit. With Clark on the inside it was more likely Desrosiers could play on the outside. I think Wake won out in part because Desrosiers felt he would play on the outside for sure. MU has two project centers and ASU has a 7'2" nobody.
You'd be wrong in that thinking. Clark would have been the one to play outside among those two, he is not an inside player by any stretch of the imagination.
Desrosiers possible position at MU was not effected one way or the other by Monterale Clark.
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Fair point but I would argue Crean only landed 1 class like that (3 or more highly ranked recruits) and that was the 3 amigos. Buzz has landed 1 class like that now as well...agreed, let's see if he can follow up another class like this in the next 3-8 years.
I agree
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Over 6'7"? Ok that has yet to happen but while Crean landed some great guards I think you can check the upcoming program and see that EWilliams and JMaymon are both listed as forwards.
I think that Buzz is focused on trying to fix that problem. Not all of this has worked out but there have been 4 or 5 in the last year. McMorrow, who I really looked forward to seeing develop. Otule, who seems to be improving. Mbao, raw but big. Clark, well. Roseboro, probably not a center but still somewhat of a big. So maybe there is more in store. I know that none of this has produced results yet but I think that there is reason for hope.
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From the article above, here are the reasons he says he chose Wake:
5. "From the very first contact, the coaching staff seemed like a great group of guys."
4. "I love their running style. I have an opportunity to play the four (power forward), playing both inside and out."
3. "I loved the location. I can't think of a prettier campus."
2. "I'm part of a recruiting class rated in the top 5 nationally (No. 7 by Rivals.com before Desrosiers signed)."
1. "First and most important, it's a top 25 academic school with opportunities I couldn't afford to pass up."
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From the article above, here are the reasons he says he chose Wake:
5. ...4. ...3. ...2. ...1. ...
It's refreshing to see players take a well rounded view of a school before they make a decision. I get sick of hearing the "I wanted to play in a big market & former NBA coach" reasons. Best of luck CD.
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From the article above, here are the reasons he says he chose Wake:
5. "From the very first contact, the coaching staff seemed like a great group of guys."
4. "I love their running style. I have an opportunity to play the four (power forward), playing both inside and out."
3. "I loved the location. I can't think of a prettier campus."
2. "I'm part of a recruiting class rated in the top 5 nationally (No. 7 by Rivals.com before Desrosiers signed)."
1. "First and most important, it's a top 25 academic school with opportunities I couldn't afford to pass up."
All valid points especially the campus and its academics. From what I read, Gaudio is a down to earth coach who stepped into a tough situation following the death of Skip Prosser. Can't root against the kid.
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And it doesn't really surprise me that he didn't come here. When I was that age, Marquette was the first visit I went on, and I was hooked immediately. My parents tried to push me to make more, but I had my mind made up. I'm sure after he looked at Wake, and then at ASU, he simply thought "Why bother?"