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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mugrad99 on September 03, 2009, 01:20:38 PM
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Aeron Bowen has allegedly opened up his recruitment? Maybe he wasn't too happy that MU recruited over him already with Jones?
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Good luck, Aaron. Find the right fit for you. MU fans, let us NOT behave like the trolls to the west. ......and one other thing. This is why Buzz can never stop recruiting and can't be afraid of oversigning.
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This has been rumored ever since Layer left and Bowen said he wasn't sure where he stood with MU. He ended up staying then, but it may have been only a matter of time.
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Too bad if true. Outside of the Jones commitment maybe it was some of the Blue stuff and it sounds like we are in on a lot of guards. Although that might be due to hearing he might decommit. Either way hopefully we are still in the running and he ends up choosing MU since he sounded like he would be a great addition. One of the dangers of an early commitment.
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I don't begrudge him for wanting to do his due diligence. This is a big life choice with an overwhelming number of options. Hopefully, at the end of his process, he decides that MU is still the right place for him :)
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kid needs to do what is best for him...hopefully he does choose to come to back to us.
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When Bowen committed he was not that highly ranked. Just as Collins whiffed on Roseboro evidently Layer "scooped" the major players on Bowen. Dale's departure, Bowen's stock rising and geography are conspiring against MU. Hope Buzz can step in and save the day. If not, he appears to be a man who has a plan B (and a C and D) at the ready.
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Where is this coming from? Speculation? Or is this documented somewhere that he is, in fact, de-committing?
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Where is this coming from? Speculation? Or is this documented somewhere that he is, in fact, de-committing?
IWB confirmed it
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Premium Scout board, graciously moved to the free board, quoting Aaron's AAU coach
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Bowen opens it up
Jerry Meyer
Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting
Since the beginning of the travel circuit this spring, there have been rumors of Rivals150 prospect Aaron Bowen decommitting from Marquette. On Thursday those rumors became a reality.
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Sixteen months in, the way I describe Buzz' tenure to present is scattered -- we are all over the fracking place.
I wrote this last week in reference to the Mo Acker reinstatement and I'd like to double down on that today. Good luck to Bowen in his future which I think lies in the SEC.
With the last guy we expected roster shuffle -- but only in April/May. With Buzz, it seems we will get roster movement in any of the 12 months. At least there are no dead periods :).
It connects the dots with Vander Blue at the camp and listing MU in his final five options. He's the prospect that needs to take Bowen's place if only for my sanity and to quell my questions.
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Sixteen months in, the way I describe Buzz' tenure to present is scattered -- we are all over the fracking place.
I wrote this last week in reference to the Mo Acker reinstatement and I'd like to double down on that today. Good luck to Bowen in his future which I think lies in the SEC.
With the last guy we expected roster shuffle -- but only in April/May. With Buzz, it seems we will get roster movement in any of the 12 months. At least there are no dead periods :).
It connects the dots with Vander Blue at the camp and listing MU in his final five options. He's the prospect that needs to take Bowen's place if only for my sanity and to quell my questions.
+1, perfectly said.
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Not only did Bowen decomit, but 2 other guard prospects recently said that MU is no longer interested/they are no longer interested in MU.
I don't want to get to ahead of myself, but I think things are pointing to MU signing a very good guard in the 2010 class.
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Goodbye Aaron, hello Vander Blue or Doron Lamb. Please.
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How highly rated is Jamail Jones? Is he a similar play to Bowen?
Aaron Bowen was a top 75 player. (I think according to Scout but don't quote me)
I don't know what to make of this - I rather have players that want to be here but if he wants to rethink things then its not a big deal since I don't think we are hedging the recruiting class on this kid.
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How highly rated is Jamail Jones? Is he a similar play to Bowen?
Aaron Bowen was a top 75 player. (I think according to Scout but don't quote me)
New Scout 2010 Rankings come out tomorrow. I expect Jones to be rated higher.
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How highly rated is Jamail Jones? Is he a similar play to Bowen?
Aaron Bowen was a top 75 player. (I think according to Scout but don't quote me)
I don't know what to make of this - I rather have players that want to be here but if he wants to rethink things then its not a big deal since I don't think we are hedging the recruiting class on this kid.
I remeber early in the summer that Jones was ranked 64 by ESPN.
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Buzz cooled on him.
He isn't tough enough for the Big East.
His parents are a problem.
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Bowen decommits from MU
Aaron Bowen, the first player to orally commit to MU's 2010-'11 recruiting class, has decided to re-open his recruiting. Bowen's father, Tony, informed coach Buzz Williams of his son's decision in a phone call Thursday morning.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/57016062.html
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How highly rated is Jamail Jones? Is he a similar play to Bowen?
Aaron Bowen was a top 75 player. (I think according to Scout but don't quote me)
I don't know what to make of this - I rather have players that want to be here but if he wants to rethink things then its not a big deal since I don't think we are hedging the recruiting class on this kid.
Bowen is only ranked by Bob Gibbons right now. Rivals moved him out of the Top 100, ESPN, HoopScoop and HoopMasters never ranked him...of course I'm not counting Scout since they update tomorrow.
Jones is #61 on ESPN and #65 on Rivals.
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Well it really sucks that he decommitted but it just means we need to try hard to get Vander Blue and either Maurice Walker or Carson Desrosiers. If we could get some sort of a combination of those 3 then our 2010 class could be as good if not better than this year's class.
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Good luck and goodbye, Aaron.
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Sixteen months in, the way I describe Buzz' tenure to present is scattered -- we are all over the fracking place.
I wrote this last week in reference to the Mo Acker reinstatement and I'd like to double down on that today. Good luck to Bowen in his future which I think lies in the SEC.
With the last guy we expected roster shuffle -- but only in April/May. With Buzz, it seems we will get roster movement in any of the 12 months. At least there are no dead periods :).
It connects the dots with Vander Blue at the camp and listing MU in his final five options. He's the prospect that needs to take Bowen's place if only for my sanity and to quell my questions.
You are obviously a Marquette hater and especially a Buzz hater. You should be terminated from this board.
--Sincerely, Mr. Hayward
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All the best to Aaron Bowen if he decides to not stay with us.
On another note, was it already made aware that the No. 3 PG (2010) Cory Joseph has set up an in-house visit with Marquette according to his mom. We are definitely a long-long shot but still nice to see he is considering us. The list already has Texas and Florida on it and is probably going to add Kansas, UCONN, Villanova, UNLV, and Arizona.
Fingers crossed.
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Kind of figured this may happen, we've got a lot of guards...although if this opens up spots for either Blue, Lamb, or Joseph, egads!! Long shots, all, but a guy can dream, right?
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All the best to Aaron Bowen if he decides to not stay with us.
We can take "if" out of the equation. He's gone. My guess is that he could change his mind next week and Buzz might not even take him. I think he's shooting higher.
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this does not really surprise me. just seemd like we were recruiting right over the top of him. At guard we have Junior for the next 4 years DJO for the next 3. Jones by all intents is more highly rated than Bowen and apparently abetter prospect. then we have guys like Blue, Joseph, scott, clark, coleman, and others more highly rated than Bowen at our camps and being heavily recruited just to me made Bowen seem like the forgotten man. Not that i felt Buzz "cooled on him" by any means but i think kids can become uncomfortable seeing acoach sign 4-5 guys that a player is going to have to beat out. It is clear Buzz is not going to sign 5 stars and 7 bench warmers. nothing will be handed to anyone, bring it ever day or ride the pine
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Scott isn't an option.
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Scott has also eliminated MU, and while Coleman is still a possibility, he's a long shot academically for any school next year.
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Just a thought . . . Do you think the Roseboro situation had anything to do with this? Bowen sees some guards potentially jumping in the mix, wasn't 100% sure anyway, then he/friends/family reads some random quotes about how Buzz promised Roseboro the world and pushed him out aggressively before practices even started. From the outside and not knowing the situation, the Roseboro situation probably doesn't sit well with a family sending their kid off 1,500 miles to a guy who seems real genuine in person (good 'ol boy accent and all), but then seems pretty cut-throat and cold when he gets back to Milwaukee and out of their living room.??
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Just a thought . . . Do you think the Roseboro situation had anything to do with this? Bowen sees some guards potentially jumping in the mix, wasn't 100% sure anyway, then he/friends/family reads some random quotes about how Buzz promised Roseboro the world and pushed him out aggressively before practices even started. From the outside and not knowing the situation, the Roseboro situation probably doesn't sit well with a family sending their kid off 1,500 miles to a guy who seems real genuine in person (good 'ol boy accent and all), but then seems pretty cut-throat and cold when he gets back to Milwaukee and out of their living room.??
Come on, promising Roseboro the world? I guess that was the only way we got Roseboro to come to MU over UCLA. :P
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Come on, promising Roseboro the world? I guess that was the only way we got Roseboro to come to MU over UCLA. :P
All that really matters is whether the recruit felt that way. According to his high school coaches, that's how he felt. Guess we'll never know.
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I think a lot of you are over analyzing this (surprise!). Bowen had developed a relationship with Layer and now he is gone.
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All that really matters is whether the recruit felt that way. According to his high school coaches, that's how he felt. Guess we'll never know.
You're right. All that matters is how he "felt". At least that seems to be the common mantra these days. I'm certainly not immune to Roseboro's or anyone else's "feelings". I'm just more interested in what happened than how it made anyone "feel". I think what happened is pretty obvious. MU made a mistake in offering a schlolarship. That became apparent to both sides very quickly. Rather than continue in a relationship that would make him unhappy Brett opted out. Good for him and good luck to him. End of story.
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You're right. All that matters is how he "felt". At least that seems to be the common mantra these days. I'm certainly not immune to Roseboro's or anyone else's "feelings". I'm just more interested in what happened than how it made anyone "feel". I think what happened is pretty obvious. MU made a mistake in offering a schlolarship. That became apparent to both sides very quickly. Rather than continue in a relationship that would make him unhappy Brett opted out. Good for him and good luck to him. End of story.
Agree completely
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Given all the player/recruit action the past couple weeks (-Roseboro, +Acker, -Bowen), I finally got the scholarship table updated. At this point, we have 1 free (likely unused) scholarship for this year, and 2 open for next year. Note, this does NOT mean that we have 3 open for next year if this one is "banked" - It's open because Roseboro left, and he still would have been using it next year. So, if somehow Buzz gets another player for this year (a mid-year transfer?) we'd only have 1 left for next year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Like I said...all "at this point" though...
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I think a lot of you are over analyzing this (surprise!). Bowen had developed a relationship with Layer and now he is gone.
BINGO...I just hope that Buzz or one of the other assistants can pick up and mend the relationship that Bowen had with Layer.
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Here's the translation for "decommiting" a verbal commitment.
I ain't goin' to your school no more.
Please apply this to all current and future decommitments.
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Here's the translation for "decommiting" a verbal commitment.
I ain't goin' to your school no more.
Please apply this to all current and future decommitments.
+1. He's no longer coming here.
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So Vander Blue is then definitely not going to Wisconsin?
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So Vander Blue is then definitely not going to Wisconsin?
As of the last MUScoop has heard Blue has it narrowed down to 5 teams including MU and UW@Madison.
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I just want to wish the kid good luck wherever he lands.
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So Vander Blue is then definitely not going to Wisconsin?
That's exactly correct. Once you fall out of love, that chick is history.
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New 2010 Scout Top 100...neither Jones or Bowen in the Top 100
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Per Scouts:
Its a tie: Bowen # 29 SG, Jones # 29 SF, both Three Star ranked.
Other MU targets/hopefulls:
Vander Blue #4 SG, 27th overall
Doron Lamb #3 SG, 26th overall
Cory Joseph #6 PG, 22nd overall
Carson Desrosiers # 7 C, 38th overall
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That's exactly correct. Once you fall out of love, that chick is history.
Unless she pays you big $$$ to get in the sack with her again. ;)
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It doesn't really apply, but never underestimate the 'for-old-times-sake' bop.
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Per Scouts:
Its a tie: Bowen # 29 SG, Jones # 29 SF, both Three Star ranked.
Other MU targets/hopefulls:
Vander Blue #4 SG, 27th overall
Doron Lamb #3 SG, 26th overall
Cory Joseph #6 PG, 22nd overall
Carson Desrosiers # 7 C, 38th overall
Fingers crossed. rabbit's foot rubbed.
"In the Name of the Father, the son. . ."