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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: RawdogDX on March 09, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/church-excommunicates-mother-of-9yearold-rape-victim-ndash-but-not-accused-rapist-14218389.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/church-excommunicates-mother-of-9yearold-rape-victim-ndash-but-not-accused-rapist-14218389.html)
Aren't religions based on the teachings of someone who preached acceptance, tolerance, love, and a spirit beyond the letter of the law grand? Throw in a Holocaust denying archbishop and it has been a real bang up month for the one, holy and apostolic.
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/church-excommunicates-mother-of-9yearold-rape-victim-ndash-but-not-accused-rapist-14218389.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/church-excommunicates-mother-of-9yearold-rape-victim-ndash-but-not-accused-rapist-14218389.html)
Aren't religions based on the teachings of someone who preached acceptance, tolerance, love, and a spirit beyond the letter of the law grand? Throw in a Holocaust denying archbishop and it has been a real bang up month for the one, holy and apostolic.
+1
Find myself more and more alienated from the Catholic Church everyday....
I miss JPII. Might have disagreed with his more conservative ideas...but he was compassionate and a much kinder human being than the guys we have in Rome now...its just one thing after another with this bunch...
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Today's USA Today had an article about how Americans have become generally less religious over the past 20 years. With stories like this, I can see why this is the case. I for one have pretty much stopped going to church...maybe only once a month or so and really only because my youngest is about to be confirmed. I still consider myself a Christian and try to pray regularly. I just don't really feel the need to associate myself with an established religion.
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I think a big part of it is that religious groups are becoming much more conservative and less tolerant than they were 20 years ago, while the USA remains a pretty moderate/centrist country. I think people are afraid that there isn't much room for personal freedom or thought in these groups.
Its clear to see that a minority of the population is becoming more zealous and religious (look at these traditionalist Catholic groups springing up..where you can hear Latin mass and stuff)..while the rest of the population is becoming alienated.
Of course there are some exceptions...not all churches are going in this direction...but I think it is a trend.
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I have to look at something like this and just be saddened.
As a Christian who takes his faith seriously, I hate seeing stories like this. More and more people who associate themselves with Christianity (although their actions clearly imply otherwise) seem to project an image that is misleading and unrepresentative of the true character of Christ. Rawdog is right on in his critique; I can't see Christ pushing away this mother and telling her to "hit the road." In fact any intelligent reading of the Bible shows Christ to be the exact opposite.
I have always done my best to try and be a reasoned Christian; that is, to think about and discuss my faith, especially with those who hold opinions contrary to mine. I feel more than a little disappointed when stuff like this happens and sheds light on the fact that some people do not do the same.
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Yeah the things that come first to mind when i think of Christian are not things that I would associate with the teachings of Jesus. I was born and raised catholic and went to 8 years of catholic school. And I feel like the thing they are closest to in the bible is the Pharisees (sp?). I'm out of that whole scene now.
But protestants can be just as bad if not worse. They conjure thoughts of hate towards homosexuals, calls for torture or assassinations, extreme views about abortion, lack of compassion towards the poor(at least the poor in our country), war mongering, fights against evolution in schools, youth brainwashing, their refusal to accept that abstinence training in schools doesn't work, attempts to religicize the airforce academy and a pride that i find disgusting. And don't even get me started on the literalists.
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If Jesus were alive today the last thing he would be is a Christian
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If this article is correct in stating that this was a "life-saving" abortion, I am very surprised there was any action by the Church. I thought the theory of double effect stated that such abortions are permissible....
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If Jesus were alive today the last thing he would be is a Christian
You sir are correct. He'd still be Jewish!
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If Jesus were alive today the last thing he would be is a Christian
I agree. Entirely.
Yeah the things that come first to mind when i think of Christian are not things that I would associate with the teachings of Jesus. I was born and raised catholic and went to 8 years of catholic school. And I feel like the thing they are closest to in the bible is the Pharisees (sp?). I'm out of that whole scene now.
But protestants can be just as bad if not worse. They conjure thoughts of hate towards homosexuals, calls for torture or assassinations, extreme views about abortion, lack of compassion towards the poor(at least the poor in our country), war mongering, fights against evolution in schools, youth brainwashing, their refusal to accept that abstinence training in schools doesn't work, attempts to religicize the airforce academy and a pride that i find disgusting. And don't even get me started on the literalists.
Again, a lot of people have made incredibly poor decisions on when to project faith into the discussion of the public sphere. Protestants should be fighting for legislation to provide shelter for the homeless and to give food to the world's poor, not wasting their time campaigning for prop. 8. I feel they do a tremendously damaging disservice to those who rationally discuss their faith and apply it in accordance with the words of Christ in the Gospel.
That being said, not all Catholics/Protestants/Literalists are this way. Certainly some of them are, and I despise this as much as you. It's unfortunate that this is the group who generally projects their opinions the loudest, but there are still people who affiliate with these groups that are not. I am a Literalist, and would welcome your right to tell me I'm wrong. Doesn't mean I will agree with you, but I'm not going to kick you in the teeth with it or jam it down your throat. I hate that as well because I wouldn't want you to do it to me, either.
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I agree. Entirely.
Again, a lot of people have made incredibly poor decisions on when to project faith into the discussion of the public sphere. Protestants should be fighting for legislation to provide shelter for the homeless and to give food to the world's poor, not wasting their time campaigning for prop. 8. I feel they do a tremendously damaging disservice to those who rationally discuss their faith and apply it in accordance with the words of Christ in the Gospel.
That being said, not all Catholics/Protestants/Literalists are this way. Certainly some of them are, and I despise this as much as you. It's unfortunate that this is the group who generally projects their opinions the loudest, but there are still people who affiliate with these groups that are not. I am a Literalist, and would welcome your right to tell me I'm wrong. Doesn't mean I will agree with you, but I'm not going to kick you in the teeth with it or jam it down your throat. I hate that as well because I wouldn't want you to do it to me, either.
It's always nice to see people like you who can rationally express their faith without attempting to, as you said, jam it down others' throats. Faith, to me, is a supremely personal issue.
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Mary Magdeline was a hooker for cryin out loud. Blessed are the poor in spirit...
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Mary Magdeline was a hooker for cryin out loud. Blessed are the poor in spirit...
Hey Stringer, did you do in her man like you did D'Angelo? ;)
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