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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Big Papi on November 19, 2008, 08:46:26 PM
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Per Jim Ganzer on sportsbubbler.com
Aaron Bowen
6'5" guard out of Jacksonville Florida.
http://community.sportsbubbler.com/forums/t/65497.aspx
2 different game films.
http://www.watchmygamefilm.com/team/team_002.htm
More info
http://www.floridahoops.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=504%3Areebok-headliner-camp-underclassmen&Itemid=84
HoopScoop has Aaron as the 8th best player out of Florida in the class of 2010 in a report earlier this year.
http://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/area6-staudt.asp
And I know its only one game and we don't know the competition but how about this for a stat line:
"Wolfson sophomore Aaron Bowen fell one point short of the school record when he scored 41 da district semifinal victory over First Coast. Bowen made 5-of-6 shots from two-point range, drilled all six of his 3-point shots and converted 13-of-15 free throws."
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/021308/hig_246376058.shtml
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Is this the only site confirming this?
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Rivals is confirming if you have a subscription and another MU site.
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Some video http://www.watchmygamefilm.com/player/ (http://www.watchmygamefilm.com/player/)
http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/4427 (http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/4427)
http://florida.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=83318 (http://florida.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=83318)
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ESPN doesn't say he is, but his rank on there is an 86.
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ESPN doesn't say he is, but his rank on there is an 86.
Interesting .. Rivals has a no-rank, and Scout has a 1-star for Bowen.
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some more quotes/ info from Rivals...
http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=806527 (http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=806527)
Aaron Bowen and Patrick Young, both class of 2010 prospects, showed some promise, too. Bowen, a 6-foot-6 forward, said Marquette, Florida, Jacksonville, Marist and Auburn. Young, a 6-foot-8 post, said Florida State, Virginia Tech and College of Charleston have shown interest.
http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=806697 (http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=806697)
Teammate Aaron Bowen, a class of 2010, chipped in with 13 points in the semi-final loss. The 6-foot-6 forward was an eye-opener in his class here in Atlanta. He's a producing big man with a fair amount of potential to keep an eye on for the future.
http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=811149 (http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=811149)
The Jacksonville Lee Bulls won a big game over D.C. Assault thanks to 22 points from Aaron Bowen, 21 points from Anthony Nwadigo and 17 points from J.P. Kuhlman.
http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=811149 (http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=882&CID=811149)
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/AARONBOWEN5_12200.JPG)
Wednesday wasn't just about the senior class. Junior forward Aaron Bowen took himself off the 2010 recruiting board on Wednesday night. The 6-foot-5, 180-pound wing from Jacksonville (Fla.) Wolfson is headed to the Big East.
Bowen verbally committed to Marquette, according to his Jacksonville Lee Bulls AAU coach David Jones.
"They had been looking at him for a while. They saw him play in the spring and [assistant] coach [Dale Layer] saw him when he was a Liberty. They didn't get a chance to see him play in the summer because he was hurt… But Buzz [Williams] felt that he was a kid he wanted to get."
Jones said Bowen liked what he saw with Marquette after he visited the school in June unofficially.
Marquette sent coaches back to Jacksonville to see Bowen in an early season game and came away impressed, Jones said.
"They saw him play a game the other night and they liked what they saw as far as his athleticism is concerned. They understand that he needs to work on his strength and his ball-handling," Jones said.
"I always thought he had the potential to be an extremely good high-major prospect and player. He's long. He's athletic. He can hit that perimeter shot. He needs some fine-tuning on the defensive end of the court and his ball-handling some more but he's got a chance to be a good player."
Bowen also considered Jacksonville (offer), Florida State, Florida, Miami and Kansas State.
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Interesting .. Rivals has a no-rank, and Scout has a 1-star for Bowen.
Rivals still hasn't ranked roseboro, and scout is only giving him 2 stars. ESPN also has roseboro ranked at 86.
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Seems an intriguing prospect. Our last foray into Florida was for the vaunted talent of Carlton Christian. Roseboro and Bowen seem of a similar vein in that they are underhyped rising talent.
Buzz really seems to love the 6'5''-6'6'' wing. However, you gotta figure he doesn't take Bowen in 10 if he has Wilson(?), Williams, and Maymon in 09. I'd also have to figure that taking Bowen at the 3 spot would likely push us down (or even off) the list for Harris, who had already been slipping since he backed off his Madness visit.
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Aaron isn't handled by Kool Aid Perry, is he?
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http://miamitropicslive.com/recruits/index.php
This site has him ranked the 4th best player in the state of Florida for the 2010 class. There's a little blurb on him down the right side of the page as well.
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Seems an intriguing prospect. Our last foray into Florida was for the vaunted talent of Carlton Christian. Roseboro and Bowen seem of a similar vein in that they are underhyped rising talent.
Buzz really seems to love the 6'5''-6'6'' wing. However, you gotta figure he doesn't take Bowen in 10 if he has Wilson(?), Williams, and Maymon in 09. I'd also have to figure that taking Bowen at the 3 spot would likely push us down (or even off) the list for Harris, who had already been slipping since he backed off his Madness visit.
FWIW, it sounds from everything I've read (posted here) that Bowen is more of a two than a three.
And, Buzz sure seems to have a penchant for recruiting guys with injury issues:
"Bowen is somewhat an under-the-radar prospect in that he missed a large portion of summer AAU circuit after aggravating a right knee injury while participating in a summer camp at MU. He had the knee scoped, missing roughly a month, and is now back to 100 percent."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/34785229.html
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FWIW, it sounds from everything I've read (posted here) that Bowen is more of a two than a three.
And, Buzz sure seems to have a penchant for recruiting guys with injury issues:
"Bowen is somewhat an under-the-radar prospect in that he missed a large portion of summer AAU circuit after aggravating a right knee injury while participating in a summer camp at MU. He had the knee scoped, missing roughly a month, and is now back to 100 percent."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/34785229.html
That's the second time this week I've heard "under the radar" about two of our recruits. Hoping like hell Buzz is right on these. Have to assume he is.
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Is this the only site confirming this?
I guess it's pretty solid since it's on MUScoop's scholarship table ;D
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
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I'm not sure "under the radar" is appropriate for him. Being out of AAU impacted his exposure a bit, but he's still rated quite high.
Per this website, rated the #4 prospect in Florida (a kid going to Kansas State is rated #7 in the state. Florida has no shortage of high level players year in-year out). This site also lists him as the #80 ranked player in the country in the '10 class (Flavien Davis is #79).
Looks like a great pickup. I love the long, athletic players. Fill a team up with them and good things happen.
http://miamitropicslive.com/recruits/index.php
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From the press conference about the recruits Buzz said he wasn't really worried about positions and actually seemed to get upset (though I think he was kidding) when one of the reporters asked to define EW's position. From what I remember him saying he said something to the affect that ideally he wants to get a point in every class, always have two true 5s on the roster and surround them with "players". Sounds good to me and though some may still want to define a player into a position I'll take my chances in college with a 5'11, 6'5, 6'6, 6'7, 6'10 lineup all day long.
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I'm not sure "under the radar" is appropriate for him. Being out of AAU impacted his exposure a bit,
I agree ... He still has two years of HS basketball left, plus the 2009 Spring and Summer AAU tournaments. He could be a kid that blows-up as people see more of him .... Will be interesting to track his development and progress.
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God, I hope he heals well.
So far, Buzz's luck hasn't been good with his recruits!
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Scout has him listed as a Shooting Guard, so thats probably where he is slotted for. Hopefully it will not effect Jamil Wilson and his potential decision. I do like Buzz going after the 6'5 and over type wings, giving size/quickness as a premium. There are three current players under 6 ft and no other incoming recruit under. But the last two recruits have been the "under the radar" so, we'll see how Roseboro make progress this year and Bowen the next and rely upon Buzz's staff for potential evaluations. The site quotes of "shows some promise" and "potential" scare me abit, but we'll see.
BTW, there have been numerous references about the ESPN ranking of Roseboro at #86. This is not a ranking, but a "score".
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scout confirms this AM
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I think Buzz's offense requires a center, point guard and three wings.
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I think if buzz can get us a good center and a good point guard in the 2010 class then our team will be very well balanced. If we can get some depth behind cadougan and then have otule, mcmorrow, roseboro and a solid 5 from the '10 class we will be a very good team combined with all the talent we have coming in at the wings.
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Seems an intriguing prospect. Our last foray into Florida was for the vaunted talent of Carlton Christian. Roseboro and Bowen seem of a similar vein in that they are underhyped rising talent.
Buzz really seems to love the 6'5''-6'6'' wing. However, you gotta figure he doesn't take Bowen in 10 if he has Wilson(?), Williams, and Maymon in 09. I'd also have to figure that taking Bowen at the 3 spot would likely push us down (or even off) the list for Harris, who had already been slipping since he backed off his Madness visit.
Bowen's more of a 2, Harris is more of a 4. Figuring he still wants another PG in 2010, there's still an open spot for Harris.
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That's the second time this week I've heard "under the radar" about two of our recruits. Hoping like hell Buzz is right on these. Have to assume he is.
Under the radar for a 2010 kid doesn't mean a thing right now. Most services haven't even begun to seriously evaluate 2010 players. Heck most haven't seen 2010 players unless they played up a division in AAU this summer. They won't start to really look at those kids until March, and won't do serious evaluations until after the April signing period for 2009 kids.
Until then, most rankings and ratings of 2010 kids are pretty worthless, and the fact that a player may or may not be on them doesn't mean much. A lot guys currently in the top 100 are going to drop out when people take a long look at them, and some players no one has even heard of yet will become top 50 players.
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That first blurb on this kid states that he hit 6 of 6 from behind the arc...sounds like more of a shooter (2G) than anything else.
I too like the idea of suiting up a point, a true big/center, and 3 long athletes at the wing/guard/forward spots. I'd hate to run an offense against all that length and activity.
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That first blurb on this kid states that he hit 6 of 6 from behind the arc...sounds like more of a shooter (2G) than anything else.
I too like the idea of suiting up a point, a true big/center, and 3 long athletes at the wing/guard/forward spots. I'd hate to run an offense against all that length and activity.
Yes you would, just ask anyone who plays louisville, memphis, UNC, etc. Its obvious that he like tall athletes.
One thought, maybe he took a chance on this wing because he's been told by Wilson that he's coming here and knows the chance of landing a solid 2010 recruit after bringing in 6 studs ahead of them would be difficult.
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Bowen's more of a 2, Harris is more of a 4. Figuring he still wants another PG in 2010, there's still an open spot for Harris.
Bowen himself was quoted as saying he would likely be a 2/3 combo. That's the same with Williams. And would be the same with Wilson. Not to mention we have Maymon who's a 3/4 combo and Fulce who's a 3/4 combo, oh and don't forget Butler who's a 2/3, and the wing spots are pretty packed up.
I've seen Tobias Harris (and he's 6'6'') play 6-7 times. He is the ideal 3 man in college and less likely a "soft" 4 man, which is the exact issue we've had the last 4-5 years at MU. Everyone got excited after the Roseboro commit because we finally got real size at the 4 and we'd revert back to those troubles if we're looking at Harris exclusively at the 4 since we'd be sitting our size in that lineup.
2010 has four three spots at this point. Bowen's a good start. Buzz needs to sign a PG and C. leaving one scholarship open. I think everyone would prefer a deadeye shooter given our issues over the last 3 seasons but it'd be nice if he went for a lunchpail 6'9'' banger to do the dirty work.
Edited for stupidity.
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2010 has four spots at this point. Bowen's a good start. Buzz needs to sign a PG and C leaving one scholarship open. I think everyone would prefer a deadeye shooter given our issues over the last 3 seasons but it'd be nice if he went for a lunchpail 6'9'' banger to do the dirty work.
[/quote] I think we have 3 spots for 2010 ( Hayward, Acker and Cubillan being seniors next year ).
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we picked up a tall athletic 2 who can shoot. he's not ranked that high and is under the radar because those are the kind of kids you get when you are MU and can't promise PT, and he's going to be coming off the bench for a minimum of 2 years and possiby all 4. Which is ok, we do need some bench players and we are not UNC so they probably won't be all americans. Sounds like a good get for MU.
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BMA is right.
Its hard not to be "under the radar" when you are a 2010 kid who didn't play AAU ball this year. The internet guru's didn't see him play so how are they supposed to rank or evaluate him?
People need to relax with the 1 star stuff. Buzz and Layer have seen this kid multiple times and took him early.
This is not some last second flyer.
Obviously none of us know if he will be good or great. Odds say that some players(even highly ranked ones) will not pan out.
We have to trust the coaches. They think the kid can play at this level......lets hope they are right.
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That would be GREAT if this kid can shoot. We've been so concentrated on speed and quickness that we've failed to get guys that can shoot with range. I must admit that I get a little nervious when I hear "Athletic Wing" because it often means not the best shooter.
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Seems an intriguing prospect. Our last foray into Florida was for the vaunted talent of Carlton Christian.
Carlton Christian was extremely talented. Are you saying he wasn't? That guy had a high motor, was very athletic and you could see he had tremendous potential. He wasn't even as "raw" as was suggested before his arrival. Things just didn't work out for him...for whatever reason. I'm going to guess he had a hard time adjusting to a structured college environment, but he had ability there is no doubt about that.
I assume you realize that leaving Marquette's basketball program is not an indication that you have no talent.
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Carlton Christian was fundamentally unsound when it comes to the game of basketball. Yes he did have great athleticism and good motor but top that off with a bad attitude and you have a player that just isn't going to succeed at the D-1 level.
I think we should be happy of this get, florida is a new hotbed for recruiting and if this kid is anywhere near the top then Buzz did an excellent job AGAIN at recruiting.
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Carlton Christian was fundamentally unsound when it comes to the game of basketball. Yes he did have great athleticism and good motor but top that off with a bad attitude and you have a player that just isn't going to succeed at the D-1 level.
I totally agree with your point about attitude. But as far as being "fundamentally unsound...." you could also say that about our current point guard and he's going to end up as our all time leading scorer.
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I totally agree with your point about attitude. But as far as being "fundamentally unsound...." you could also say that about our current point guard and he's going to end up as our all time leading scorer.
Barring injury McNeal will be the all-time leading scorer.
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Just because Niq isn't the worlds greatest shooter does not make him "fundamentally unsound". Just FYI, unless you're over 7 feet tall, you are not a pro-prospect (which DJ was and still is) at any time if you're "fundamentally unsound".
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here is a new article about Bowen
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/112108/hig_358299074.shtml
The Florida Times-Union
November 21, 2008
Wolfson's Bowen selects Marquette
By Jeff Elliott,
The Times-Union
Wolfson basketball player Aaron Bowen became the second junior from Jacksonville in the past two weeks to give a verbal commitment to a Division I school when he announced Thursday that he would attend Marquette University beginning in the fall of 2010.
A week ago, Paxon's Patrick Young issued a similar commitment for Florida.
Bowen, a 6-foot-5, 185-pound forward, averaged a team-high 17.1 points per game as a sophomore for the Wolfpack a year ago. He made 57 percent of his field-goal attempts and shot 70 percent from the free throw line.
"Marquette talked to me about how they would work with me on academics and would help me get a good education, and that's important to me and my family," Bowen said. "Plus the basketball there is good. They play in the tough Big East Conference."
Wolfson coach Bruce Rosebrock put Bowen's commitment to Marquette on the same level as former Wolfpack players Udonis Haslem and Kenny Walker who went on to play for Florida and Alabama, respectively. Rosebrock said it was Bowen's demeanor off the court that sold the Marquette coaches on his standout player.
"The [Marquette] coaches told me it was his behavior, the way he carries himself, his attitude, his family background that really attracted Aaron to them," Rosebrock said. "They run across players that have a lot of ability like Aaron has, but Aaron is the total package of the kind of players they recruit. Not only does he have the upside of talent on the court, but he's a real class act off the court."
Bowen also was pursued by Florida, Florida State, Jacksonville and Auburn. He'll become the first player from the Jacksonville area to attend Marquette on a basketball scholarship.
jeff.elliott@jacksonville.com, 904) 359-4292
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NYWarrior,
Thanks for steering this thread back on topic.
Good info,
Sounds like a solid kid...Keep working on your outside shot!
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He is only a sophomore and could easily be 6'7" + by College. Could easily play 2 or 3 maybe 4 with growth
Good Get
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Looks like we should score this one for Al:quotes form Bowen's HS coach.
"In high school, we're working on teaching him the game. I learned the game by listening to Al McGuire. He taught me how to be a basketball coach, because I would listen to him every day he was doing those games on TV, listen to him explain things and how it was done, and that's what we're doing with Aaron"
"I'm from New Jersey, so I have no allegiance to the Florida people at all, even though I went to school at Jacksonville University. I love Marquette; I'm a closet Marquette fan. Once Marquette got involved, that was almost a done deal as far as I was concerned."
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Looks like we should score this one for Al:quotes form Bowen's HS coach.
"In high school, we're working on teaching him the game. I learned the game by listening to Al McGuire. He taught me how to be a basketball coach, because I would listen to him every day he was doing those games on TV, listen to him explain things and how it was done, and that's what we're doing with Aaron"
"I'm from New Jersey, so I have no allegiance to the Florida people at all, even though I went to school at Jacksonville University. I love Marquette; I'm a closet Marquette fan. Once Marquette got involved, that was almost a done deal as far as I was concerned."
Nice find and thanks to Al for the assist!!
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"I'm from New Jersey, so I have no allegiance to the Florida people at all, even though I went to school at Jacksonville University. I love Marquette; I'm a closet Marquette fan. Once Marquette got involved, that was almost a done deal as far as I was concerned."
Whadda know -- "It's Marquette, It's Marquette"
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Whadda know -- "It's Marquette, It's Marquette"
Nice :)