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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChicosBailBonds on May 28, 2008, 07:35:50 PM

Title: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 28, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
MU is one of them.


Begs the question why MU didn't put conditions on the kids we released.  The conventional wisdom was that it would hurt MU in recruiting if we did.  Apparently Iowa State feels differently.

Don't know the correct answer but certainly they approached it differently then Marquette did.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/SPORTS020604/80528027
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: 79Warrior on May 28, 2008, 07:58:29 PM
MU is one of them.


Begs the question why MU didn't put conditions on the kids we released.  The conventional wisdom was that it would hurt MU in recruiting if we did.  Apparently Iowa State feels differently.

Don't know the correct answer but certainly they approached it differently then Marquette did.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/SPORTS020604/80528027

Conditions are BS. If the kid wants out, let him go. The only condition that makes sense is no in-conference xfers. Other than that, let the kids move on.
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on May 28, 2008, 08:07:26 PM
Both TT and NW ended up going to schools that we are not scheduled to play - same as the ISU clause.  Plus there is the big east rule that they had to abide by

Worked out just as well for us, and we don't look like as big of jerks/sore losers in the end.

I could see keeping IU off the list - but whatever, they are going to suck at least 75% of NWs career there.  For a kid that has probably only lost 10 games in his life, lets see how long he lasts there.
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 28, 2008, 08:20:37 PM
Conditions are BS. If the kid wants out, let him go. The only condition that makes sense is no in-conference xfers. Other than that, let the kids move on.


I agree ... show some class and if a kid doesn't want to be at your school, let him find the place that he is happy at.
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: LastWarrior on May 28, 2008, 08:31:33 PM
Are we sure that Buzz didn't put any restrictions on NW & TT?  ?-(
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: mviale on May 28, 2008, 08:34:08 PM
a program like Iowa needs conditions.  Dead end school - we are part of a tradition and a top 15 program
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 28, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
Two schools of thought, that's for sure.

Though if a school is a dead end, why would they put restrictions on it...wouldn't that make it even harder to land recruits?  Just a thought.  Again, don't know the right answer.

I've seen powerhouse schools put conditions on and others that don't
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: BuzzSucksSucks on May 28, 2008, 08:40:42 PM
The school should be able to pick the 8 schools on the list.
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 28, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Are we sure that Buzz didn't put any restrictions on NW & TT?  ?-(

Did we put any restrictions on SC?  Did he have eight schools with ISU on the list?
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: NCMUFan on May 28, 2008, 08:45:34 PM
Are we interested in Johnson, what position does he play?
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: bma725 on May 28, 2008, 08:53:48 PM
Are we interested in Johnson, what position does he play?

He's a 6'7 G/F.  Averaged over 12PPG both years, despite being injured as a sophomore. He's also a very good rebounder, or at least he was as a freshman...but the ankle injury probably hampered that last year.  Not a particularly good outside shooter.

MU is interested, but it's tough to gauge how much.  If MU takes him, that means that the 2009 class would have two scholarships left, but still have 3 needs to fill(PG, shooter and big man).
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: bilsu on May 28, 2008, 09:36:03 PM
I believe the 8 schools are the schools that asked Iowa St. for permission to talk to Johnson. Iowa st. appears to be limiting his choices to those schools that took the appropriate route.
Title: Re: Iowa State grants Johnson release with conditions...only 8 schools
Post by: nola03 on May 28, 2008, 09:36:37 PM
I don't give two craps about conditional releases but considering 3/4 of Johnson's list is Big East we better damn well put in a fight for this kid because it's clear the top coaches in the league feel he can compete at our level.

Buzz is a master recruiter. Go to work.