For the past two weeks many on here were saying that Maymon was not coming here or we did not want him. In looks like everyone is very happy with the announcement. What happened to change everyone's mind?
My guess is his Dad is still Tim and he still wants to start and he still needs to work in the classroom. For the naysayers---why are you happy with the news?
My guess is that you are more interested in making the hire have credibility. You would have better served by backing Maymon being recruiting on here and supporting Buzz's offer.
We need to get Wilson and Lacy, believe it or not it is for the best interest of Buzz and MU.
Quote from: THEGYMBAR on May 27, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
We need to get Wilson and Lacy, believe it or not it is for the best interest of Buzz and MU.
We don't need Lacy. He's a 5'11 SG who jacks up shots unnecessarily, not a true PG.
Further, now that Maymon has committed, MU needs to stay away from any other academic risks in that class, because you can't take the risk of two guys not qualifying. Maymon you could take a risk because of his position on the court and the fact that MU has other guys there. With Lacy you can't do that. If he doesn't qualify MU would be left with Acker as the starting PG. That's just a risk you can't take.
So GYMBAR, still giving up your season tickets???
Quote from: bma725 on May 27, 2008, 10:56:45 AM
We don't need Lacy. He's a 5'11 SG who jacks up shots unnecessarily, not a true PG.
Further, now that Maymon has committed, MU needs to stay away from any other academic risks in that class, because you can't take the risk of two guys not qualifying. Maymon you could take a risk because of his position on the court and the fact that MU has other guys there. With Lacy you can't do that. If he doesn't qualify MU would be left with Acker as the starting PG. That's just a risk you can't take.
I tend to agree. If Lacy gets his books straight and really wants to come to Marquette, I'd still take him, but he's far from a must-get player. It seems like with E. Williams, Maymon and Butler in the fold, MU will have plenty of young players who can score over the next few years. A pure point guard with some size, i.e. Chris Colvin, would be outstanding.
Reinko--Yes I am giving up season tickets. I stated a million times I do not support the adminstration and the their lack of professionalism. Doesn't mean that I do not want to see a top 10 recruiting program.
Again, everyone bashing Maymon and his Dad last week where are you?
Quote from: Pakuni on May 27, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
If Lacy gets his books straight and really wants to come to Marquette, I'd still take him, but he's far from a must-get player.
Raise your hand if you've seen Lacy's transcripts?
;)
Quote from: THEGYMBAR on May 27, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
For the past two weeks many on here were saying that Maymon was not coming here or we did not want him. In looks like everyone is very happy with the announcement. What happened to change everyone's mind?
For the naysayers---why are you happy with the news?
this article happend: http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/article.asp?nid=14845
people like to be positive about things, what are you trying to achieve by making comments like these? Get people who disagreed with you a week ago to argue about something that already happend?
Rawdog---Not sure what your post means? I was simply curious on complete turnaround of some posters. If you did not want him last week why are you happy today?
I think many naysayers were that because it would lessen the blow if he did not come here. I would rather see the bar raised and expect getting signings like one.
Gymbar,
Interesting tactic...You didin't like Buzz as our hired head coach so you attack those who thought JM shouldn't come to MU. Good idea, deflect your initial thoughts about the coach or "process" and attack those that thought we wouldn't land JM.
Don't worry, if Buzz succeeds as the HC at MU I won't remember all the 'nay sayers' like yourself who thought we just damned the entire program because we didn't hire Tony Bennett or Sean Miller. ;)
Just Because Buzz kept EW and landed JM doesn't mean he's a success but it does show that we shouldn't judge the result of this "flawed process" before we recruit a kid or coach a game...
Quote from: muarmy81 on May 27, 2008, 12:57:10 PM
Gymbar,
Interesting tactic...You didin't like Buzz as our hired head coach so you attack those who thought JM shouldn't come to MU. Good idea, deflect your initial thoughts about the coach or "process" and attack those that thought we wouldn't land JM.
Don't worry, if Buzz succeeds as the HC at MU I won't remember all the 'nay sayers' like yourself who thought we just damned the entire program because we didn't hire Tony Bennett or Sean Miller. ;)
Just Because Buzz kept EW and landed JM doesn't mean he's a success but it does show that we shouldn't judge the result of this "flawed process" before we recruit a kid or coach a game...
+1
Let's give Buzz a chance to fail/succeed before we call him a success/failure.
JM is a step in the right direction.
Muarmy---interesting tactic? Not attacking anyone...simple question, for those who did not like Maymon last week why do you like him today?
Your post is a rant that really makes no sense. Have supported the Buzz hire since ten days after he took over. Have not supported the admin for their process in hire from day one. Supported Buzz recruiting Maymon, Wilson and Lacy non-stop on here. I have pushed for everyone to support recruiting these kids and trusted Buzz's decision to offer scholarship to them.
Not really sure what not wanting Maymon has to do with the Buzz hire.
Quote from: bma725 on May 27, 2008, 10:56:45 AM
We don't need Lacy. He's a 5'11 SG who jacks up shots unnecessarily, not a true PG.
Further, now that Maymon has committed, MU needs to stay away from any other academic risks in that class, because you can't take the risk of two guys not qualifying. Maymon you could take a risk because of his position on the court and the fact that MU has other guys there. With Lacy you can't do that. If he doesn't qualify MU would be left with Acker as the starting PG. That's just a risk you can't take.
from most reports the man can beat guys off the dribble and shoot fairly well- he can score the basketball. anything you have someone who can do that and is top 100 you cannot pass up on him thinking he will jack up shots. you take the kid and mold him to your system, if he doesnt listen you go with someone else...acker is not a bad true point guard, especially with the experience he will have
bma is correct-----I saw Lacy play and he's overrated------IMO a lower level Div 1 prospect.
Has weak PG skills-----is a streak shooter (yesterday 1 for 5 on treys)----is a SG, but only 5' 9".
I am glad Maymon committed but he still needs to qualify academically and then hack it as a Marquette student and as a basketball team member. Today is a great first step, but I still say we are not out of the woods in regards to seeing him score a basket for Marquette.
A couple things.
It's a great signing
A step in the right direction for sure
A great job by Buzz getting a guy who - it sounds like - Crean wasn't big on getting
Still does not change the fact that the process hiring Buzz was terrible. AGAIN...that doesn't mean we want him to fail. I hated his hiring but am very happy with the staff he's assembled and the players he's gotten to date. A step in the right direction in shoring up this team past 2009.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on May 27, 2008, 08:49:38 PM
A couple things.
It's a great signing
A step in the right direction for sure
A great job by Buzz getting a guy who - it sounds like - Crean wasn't big on getting
Still does not change the fact that the process hiring Buzz was terrible. AGAIN...that doesn't mean we want him to fail. I hated his hiring but am very happy with the staff he's assembled and the players he's gotten to date. A step in the right direction in shoring up this team past 2009.
MU Scoop, March 24, 2011:
"A great job by Buzz getting Marquette in the Final Four after a perfect 18-0 conference season. But it still doesn't change the fact that he was a terrible hire produced by a terrible process. Steve Cottingham is clueless."
Quote from: Pakuni on May 27, 2008, 08:55:25 PM
MU Scoop, March 24, 2011:
"A great job by Buzz getting Marquette in the Final Four after a perfect 18-0 conference season. But it still doesn't change the fact that he was a terrible hire produced by a terrible process. Steve Cottingham is clueless."
I am sure that when that happens, Niv will be happy to issue an apology
Quote from: Pakuni on May 27, 2008, 08:55:25 PM
MU Scoop, March 24, 2011:
"A great job by Buzz getting Marquette in the Final Four after a perfect 18-0 conference season. But it still doesn't change the fact that he was a terrible hire produced by a terrible process. Steve Cottingham is clueless."
Well said.
C'mon guys... can we get over the "Looks like a good move by Buzz... but the process sucked" ?
At least say something like... "This is a positive move by buzz, but let's see how he's doing after a couple of years."