Is he all that? Some have compared him to a Dominic James talent. Not sure when his team was 8-14 last year. Usually major division 1 talent can singlehandedly take a HS team to at least .500 ball.
It's hard to say how good he will be, but there is no doubt he is expected to be good at the next level. Despite being about 5'10 and 160, he can take it into the basket strong, and he is extremely quick with good ball handling skills. On top of that, he is actually a good shooter. He has good percentages inside and outside of the arc in HS.
He erupted for a 47 pt game vs Mil. North Division which shows he can potentially get some points for us at MU. I don't think he had to most talented teammates for what their team was going up against, so he had to carry the team at some points. I mean, if a HS player scores 47 and his team still loses, I can't imagine he has college level teammates playing alongside him :D
Quote from: mviale on May 21, 2008, 12:37:44 AM
Is he all that? Some have compared him to a Dominic James talent. Not sure when his team was 8-14 last year. Usually major division 1 talent can singlehandedly take a HS team to at least .500 ball.
Was Tony Smith any good? Not sure when his teams were 10-18 and 13-15. Usually an NBA talent can singlehandedly take a team to at least .500 in a mid-major conference.
Quote from: Marquette84 on May 21, 2008, 07:55:15 AM
Was Tony Smith any good? Not sure when his teams were 10-18 and 13-15. Usually an NBA talent can singlehandedly take a team to at least .500 in a mid-major conference.
Are you talking about Tony Smith at Marquette? Comparing success in college basketball to success at the high school level? If so, it's quite odd.
Quote from: mviale on May 21, 2008, 12:37:44 AM
Is he all that? Some have compared him to a Dominic James talent. Not sure when his team was 8-14 last year. Usually major division 1 talent can singlehandedly take a HS team to at least .500 ball.
Not at Bay View which I cannot recall ever having a quality team. I'm frankly just amazed that if he is that good, that is where he chose to go to school.
Quote from: jce on May 21, 2008, 09:14:14 AM
Not at Bay View which I cannot recall ever having a quality team. I'm frankly just amazed that if he is that good, that is where he chose to go to school.
Bay View has actually been good recently, or at least until Lacy became the star. They made it to the state title game in 1999, losing by 5. They've made it to sectionals for the most part since then, at least until this year, but always seemed to lose in a close one.
And they've had some good players as well. Larry House was a stud for their 1999 team and later starred at Creighton. Diante Moses was a great player on that team as well, but had academic issues that prevented him from going anywhere. Eric Fowlkes came a few years after the title team and he ended up playing for Oral Roberts. Dwight Buycks was the star before Lacy, and he will be a high major prospect when he finishes his time in JUCO next year. He was already a big time prospect before that, he was All State as a senior, Suburban Milwaukee Player of the Year etc.
The problem IMO was that they were playing under a first year coach who may not have had everything under control at all times. But they are too talented to repeat that year again.
Quote from: Marquette84 on May 21, 2008, 07:55:15 AM
Was Tony Smith any good? Not sure when his teams were 10-18 and 13-15. Usually an NBA talent can singlehandedly take a team to at least .500 in a mid-major conference.
lets put it this way - a Tony Smith or Trevor Powell led Bay View would not be 8-14.
Quote from: mviale on May 21, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
lets put it this way - a Tony Smith or Trevor Powell led Bay View would not be 8-14.
Powell went to Washington right? He was just before the little dude that went to Kansas and backed up Jacque Vaughn.
yes, those schools usually have good teams, but I still question Lacy's star power
The little guy is Calvin Rayford. He and Silas Mills were unreal in high school. Mills was talented as you could get.
Quote from: jce on May 21, 2008, 09:14:14 AM
Not at Bay View which I cannot recall ever having a quality team. I'm frankly just amazed that if he is that good, that is where he chose to go to school.
If I'm understanding this correctly, this is one of the things that disturbs me about high school ball. The fact that kids choose where to go to HIGH SCHOOL - not college where scholarships are offered - based on a sport as opposed to academics. There is a school in my sons' district that has become a "mini college program" here in Georgia (Norcross H.S.). They have had some big time D-1 players come through in the last 5 years or so and they have been a top ten team in the nation consistently in that same time span. But these kids that they are getting are leaving other schools - some 40 to 50 miles away to play here. Parents are uprooting families "hoping" there kid can get a scholarship. I read a human interest story about one of these transfers a few years ago and it pointed out how the younger sister was devastated at having to leave her friends at her school in another district as a result. And what about the parents relocating for their kid's sake. In some cases leaving a job? It's crazy - but it's reality I guess.
as Digger would say, Lacy can flat out score.
Bayview was a fairly mediocre lot this year but his AAU team the Playground Elite are pretty solid. He often puts in 20+ a game with them with Jamil Wilson as a teammate.
This on Lacy after the King James tourney where he was selected out of the 5 top performers (from roughly 200 teams):
Johnny Lacy 5'10 Jr. PG Playground Warriors Elite
We saw Lacy play in an event in Milwaukee last month and we came away highly impressed with both his quickness and shooting ability and after seeing him a second time this weekend in Akron, we are completely sold on this guy. In Playground Elite's quarterfinal-loss to tournament runner-up Rising Stars, Lacy scored more than half his team's points and finished with 36. He is high on Marquette despite the recent coaching change, but also lists Tennessee, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Cincy.
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for anyone interested here's a video of a Playground Elite game (in white jerseys). Lacy of course is the little guy and Wilson is the guy wearing the gold tshirt under his jersey. As you will see Wilson does a lot of the ballhandling, often bringing the ball upcourt. (just ignore Wilson's airball from 3 about 6:40 in)
76.74.252.140/kingwood/playing.php?game_id=679 (http://76.74.252.140/kingwood/playing.php?game_id=679)
Yes we should want this kid. along with Wilson and Maymon. Our coach wants him and so should all of us.
I run into a Milwaukee area HS BB coach regularily------I asked him about Lacy-----he says he's a 5' 10" shooting guard!
^^^ Not what this team needs^^^
I've seen Lacy play several times. He does have good point guard skills. However, he definitely looks to shoot, so he does need to be reined in when he gets to the next level. Reminds me of Aaron Hutchins.
IF he were the quality shooter Hutchins turned into his senior year, and IF he had a quality running mate, he'd be a tremendous asset.
I saw Lacy play in an AAU game today-----he was rather unimpressive-----was 1 for 5 on treys including an air ball-----and doesn't have the ballhandling skills or instincts of a PG-------my coach friend was correct-----he's a 5' 9" shoot first guy.
Quote from: augoman on May 26, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
IF he were the quality shooter Hutchins turned into his senior year, and IF he had a quality running mate, he'd be a tremendous asset.
slight difference in talent levels - Hutch was mr basketball for Ohio.
Quote from: Murffieus on May 26, 2008, 07:50:49 PM
I saw Lacy play in an AAU game today-----he was rather unimpressive-----was 1 for 5 on treys including an air ball-----and doesn't have the ballhandling skills or instincts of a PG-------my coach friend was correct-----he's a 5' 9" shoot first guy.
You're judging a kid's 4 year basketball career based on one AAU game. Seems logical.
the thing is, we already have an undersized PG on the roster for 09. give me Dixon, Darius Smith, or Bledsoe. we don't need a scoring point. Buzz is bringing in guys who can score. Give me a PG who can get them the ball and play some defense.
Quote from: TheManInGold on May 27, 2008, 08:48:25 AM
You're judging a kid's 4 year basketball career based on one AAU game. Seems logical.
No, he was judging him on an aau game where he played in a mannor that matched what a wisconsin hs coach said about the kid. Coming to a conclusion based on those two independent means of research makes perfect sense.
Not the kid the team needs at pg with the amount of scoring talent we'll have.