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Title: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2008, 10:47:04 PM
Tory, Heather, Kara, and Donna went to see a movie.  Heather took the first seat.  Kara and Tory did not sit next to each other.  Donna only sat next to Tory.  In what order did the girls sit?



Any ideas...I've had 4 adults take a crack at this....one is an engineer. 
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ATWizJr on May 20, 2008, 11:09:03 PM
wouldn't the order have to be  Heather-Kara-Donna-Tory?
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ATWizJr on May 20, 2008, 11:15:26 PM
oops, my solution can't be correct unless there is an open seat between Donna and Kara.  I think......
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2008, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on May 20, 2008, 11:15:26 PM
oops, my solution can't be correct unless there is an open seat between Donna and Kara.  I think......

Yeah, we're stumped....the adults I've sent this to all have different answers from an open seat to two rows to three rows.  No slam dunk answer yet
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on May 20, 2008, 11:41:15 PM
It's gotta be multiple rows....no way they're sitting consecutively all next to each other.

It's probably

Heather
Donna/Tory or Tory/Donna
Kara

That or the open seat solution...

Heather-Kara _______  Donna -Tory

Unless this is one of those..."There is not enough info needed to solve the problem" kind of deals...
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ATWizJr on May 21, 2008, 01:51:38 AM
did they see the same movie?
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 21, 2008, 08:23:14 AM
Kara sat on Heather's lap.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: MU Chi_IL on May 21, 2008, 08:44:17 AM
Is Tory a boy?
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 21, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Fun question - my take is that the answer depends on what we assume by Heather taking the first seat.

If it means that she sits down first anywhere she pleases, then the answer is easy (K, H, T, D)

If it means that she sits at the first seat in the row, then there either is no answer or we're looking at something goofy like an open seat or multiple rows. 

Granted, I know nothing about third grade teaching levels, but to assume open seats or multiple rows seems a bit tricky for a third grade problem.  Maybe it's just poor word choice in the problem?
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: rocky_warrior on May 21, 2008, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on May 21, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Fun question - my take is that the answer depends on what we assume by Heather taking the first seat.

If it means that she sits down first anywhere she pleases, then the answer is easy (K, H, T, D)

I'd have to agree.  When I first read it, that's what I thought.  When you say  "Heather took the first seat." it could just mean she sat down first.  Which is what I would expect a 3rd grader to think**

** - seeing as how I'm only about as mature as a 3rd grader :)
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 21, 2008, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on May 21, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Fun question - my take is that the answer depends on what we assume by Heather taking the first seat.

If it means that she sits down first anywhere she pleases, then the answer is easy (K, H, T, D)

If it means that she sits at the first seat in the row, then there either is no answer or we're looking at something goofy like an open seat or multiple rows. 

Granted, I know nothing about third grade teaching levels, but to assume open seats or multiple rows seems a bit tricky for a third grade problem.  Maybe it's just poor word choice in the problem?

Henry....you might have the answer.  Though I must say the option of sitting on the lap is rather funny from the other poster
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Coach Norman Dale on May 21, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
Please update us when you get your child's homework back!   ;D
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 21, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
Quote from: Coach Norman Dale on May 21, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
Please update us when you get your child's homework back!   ;D

I will   ;D   I had one of our space engineers here look at it and he was bamboozled.  "THERE IS NO ANSWER" he kept saying.  Have to agree with him, the question is worded too vaguely.

Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: MUPig on May 21, 2008, 06:24:29 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2008, 10:47:04 PM
Tory, Heather, Kara, and Donna went to see a movie.  Heather took the first seat.  Kara and Tory did not sit next to each other.  Donna only sat next to Tory.  In what order did the girls sit?



Any ideas...I've had 4 adults take a crack at this....one is an engineer. 


It has to be a misprint.......

Heather --> Kara --> Donna --> Tory

Would it make more sense if it said "Only Donna sat next to Tory?".  Otherwise, it is impossible without an empty seat. 
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 22, 2008, 04:27:31 PM
I think Henry had it right...

Kara-Heather-Tory-Donna

If you can interpret "Heather took the first seat" to mean "Heather sat down first" in a seat somewhere not on the aisle, then this is the answer.

Otherwise, Kara sat on Heather's lap.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Coach Norman Dale on May 22, 2008, 11:20:46 PM
I think MUPig has it right with the misprint explanation -- two words transposed.  Remember this was 3rd grade homework not a Mensa exam.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 22, 2008, 11:42:35 PM
those girls is sluts, sittin on each other's laps and all.   ;D
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ATWizJr on May 26, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
so, has the teacher given and explained the answer yet?

Share.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: augoman on May 26, 2008, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: BrewCity on May 22, 2008, 04:27:31 PM
I think Henry had it right...

Kara-Heather-Tory-Donna

If you can interpret "Heather took the first seat" to mean "Heather sat down first" in a seat somewhere not on the aisle, then this is the answer.

Otherwise, Kara sat on Heather's lap.


Brewcity has to have it..., "took the first seat" doesn't mean she sat on the aisle.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on May 28, 2008, 01:13:32 PM
Brewcity was correct according to the answers provided in the text book by the teacher.  It's all how you interpret the wording.
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: ATWizJr on May 28, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
and 3rd graders can make that distinction?  Wow!
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 28, 2008, 01:31:49 PM
Woo Hoo!!  On to Fourth Grade I Go!!
Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 28, 2008, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 28, 2008, 01:13:32 PM
Brewcity was correct according to the answers provided in the text book by the teacher.  It's all how you interpret the wording.

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Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: spiral97 on May 28, 2008, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on May 28, 2008, 02:16:22 PM
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Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 28, 2008, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: spiral97 on May 28, 2008, 02:20:41 PM
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That's a good suggestion.  Thanks.

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Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: spiral97 on May 28, 2008, 02:32:41 PM
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Title: Re: 3rd grade math problem....I'm not kidding...you know you're old
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 28, 2008, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: BrewCity on May 22, 2008, 04:27:31 PM
I think Henry had it right...

Kara-Heather-Tory-Donna

If you can interpret "Heather took the first seat" to mean "Heather sat down first" in a seat somewhere not on the aisle, then this is the answer.

Otherwise, Kara sat on Heather's lap.

Henry...see my original quote above...I gave you due credit.  Just clarified it so the other third graders could follow.
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