http://www.indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=801617
REPORT: Crean Allowed 10 Days On Road To Recruit
Andy Romey
Peegs.com & Inside Indiana Staff Writer
Indiana has amended the sanctions it placed on the men's basketball program, granting Tom Crean 10 days to go on the road and recruit, the Herald Times reported this afternoon citing a source close to the program.
When IU issued the restrictions last fall, then-head coach Kelvin Sampson was limited to 10 days on the road recruiting from Oct. 5 2007 through July 31, 2008.
Sampson used the majority of those days, while Dan Dakich used the rest, the Times reported.
The university and Sampson will go in front of the NCAA in Seattle for a hearing in two months. The program could potentially face sanctions additional to the ones Indiana placed on itself after discovering Sampson's recruiting violations.
Just keep him out of Racine and Horlick HS
Did you really expect anything less to happen here?? No way Indiana was going to follow through on this voluntarily. Good luck Crean, you douchebag.
Douchebag...Douchebag? Don't you mean filthy rotten stinkin' abnormally tanned douchebag?
Tough Love, IU Style.
I would think this is rather embarrassing for IU. They impose their own sanctions and then lift them because they need recruits. This should be a mark against them when they go in front of the NCAA board.
It really is am embarrassment in light of the squeaky clean image they want to build for themselves. I know they can lift their own sanctions, but wow.
When do the official NCAA sanctions get handed out?
Well the piece above says they go in front of the board in two months. How long it takes after that no idea.
NCAA wil be looking long and hard at institutional controls in this matter. From this perch, it seems like IU really has no controls. Looking forward to a very stiff penalty for IU.
What a complete and utter sham. IU admin is a joke. They must be getting walloped by the NCAA...between the recruiting violations and the piss poor graduation rate where they fell well below the minimum--and could lose up to two more schollies, this is such a pathetic development. Not to mention their "self imposed sanctions" only allowed one assistant coach to travel to meet a recruit...when we know two went to visit NW. Will Miles Brand have the 'nads to spank his old school? Doubtful
I bet if TC takes a two hour travel time to Racine--with an hour visit with JM...he still would have 19 hours in that day to recruit that he could carry over--based on the Bloomington Accounting Board's rules. Hello Enron!
Is it really going to matter how much the slimeball recruits if the NCAA gets tough and hits them with a tournament ban and reduced schollies?
They must really love the BS Crean has been feeding them to free up some of the sanctions they imposed on themselves.
Of course Saint Tommy just became shady and slimy just a few weeks ago.
I am sure he is spending a lot of time at Indiana texting sophomores and superimposing Erik William's head in D Wades body but digitally enhanced in an IU uniform. ;)
What the heck, those things were probably legal last year so no biggie.
Usual suspects pounce in 3, 2, 1...
when your graduation rates approach MU's and your school starts recruitiing players who can actually read and write, come back and talk. Crean has to get sleazy now, he's in the filthiest conference in the country.
Quote from: ecompt on April 25, 2008, 10:35:18 PM
\Crean has to get sleazy now, he's in the filthiest conference in the country.
The SEC & Big 12 are devestated that you overlooked their hard work in cheating. No way the Big 10 is worse, maybe Ohio State, but that's about it.
I was going on probations, arrests, etc. UW (free shoes, no discipline of student-athletes), Michigan (Fab Five, etc.), Ohio State (phony classes, etc.), Indiana (phone calls), Northwestern (garnbling)...yes, sir, it's quite a league.
Quote from: ecompt on April 25, 2008, 10:45:03 PM
I was going on probations, arrests, etc. UW (free shoes, no discipline of student-athletes), Michigan (Fab Five, etc.), Ohio State (phony classes, etc.), Indiana (phone calls), Northwestern (garnbling)...yes, sir, it's quite a league.
Fair enough, but you're bringing up stuff from 1991...SEC & Big 12 teams cheat
daily hourly.
This...
Is...
Utter...
Bullshit!
hopefully the NCAA will step in and clamp down, considering Sampson's previous record as a cheater. IU knew what it was getting when it hired him, so the penalties should be severe. This "amendment" makes the school like ridiculous. Typical Big Ten crap.
Quote from: Schoolyard on April 25, 2008, 10:50:57 PM
Fair enough, but you're bringing up stuff from 1991...SEC & Big 12 teams cheat daily hourly.
You do realize that Ohio State was put on 3 years probation in 2006?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2362496
In 2003 Michigan was placed on 4 years probation
http://www.ncaa.org/releases/infractions/2003050802in.htm
Indiana will go on probation in 2008
Minnesota was put on probation for four years in 2000
http://www.ncaa.org/releases/infractions/2000/2000102402in.htm
Illinois was put on probation in 2005
http://media.www.dailyillini.com/media/storage/paper736/news/2005/10/28/Sports/Ncaa-Puts.Illinois.On.Probation-1037821.shtml
Michigan State came off probation in 2001
http://www.ncaa.org/releases/infractions/1999/1999091602in.htm
Purdue was put on 2 years probation in 2007
Wisconsin was given five years and just came off of probation only 2 years ago
http://www.ncaa.org/releases/infractions/2001/2001100202in.htm
I haven't even broached Iowa and the issues under Alford.
You make it sound like 1991 was the last time anything happened. The Big Ten has not only been cheating, but recently and routinely.
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Quote from: butchbadger on April 25, 2008, 10:30:04 PM
Of course Saint Tommy just became shady and slimy just a few weeks ago.
I am sure he is spending a lot of time at Indiana texting sophomores and superimposing Erik William's head in D Wades body but digitally enhanced in an IU uniform. ;)
What the heck, those things were probably legal last year so no biggie.
Usual suspects pounce in 3, 2, 1...
Why are you even on this board? Quit being an instigator and get a life. I hope all Badger fans aren't as insecure as you to have to go on a Marquette message board to try to qualify their feelings. We're all tired of you're crap.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 26, 2008, 12:26:10 AM
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+1,000,000
That is beautiful
TC is a real piece of work and piece of crap. 10 days to recruit .. I want to know how the university will account for this. so does this mean he has 240 hours to recruit and thats it. Is sleeping and eating part of this equation too. Otherwise 240 hours is a long time.
Chicos that's hilarious. Do you think those banners will be hanging at IU any time soon??? :D
Boy Penn State is not a team player - do they think they are too good to cheat?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 26, 2008, 12:26:10 AM
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This should be emailed to T-Cubed
I bet they're going to reinstate the removed 1 scholly when the grad rate punishment gets doled out.
The IU A.D. will state that it wasn't Crean's fault and that, "It's Sampson's. It's Sampson's."
Someone said the sanctions were really against Sampson and his tenure, not the program. I don't know one way or another - but it still smells funny to me.
More good news from the Big Ten, badgerboy: New York Daily News reports that Michigan WR Manningham scored a 6 (out of 50) on the Wonderlic. That's still better than Ron Dayne. What a conference! Academically and ethically it's an absolute travesty.
Saying that a couple athletes represent poor academics in the institution as a whole is ridiculous. Michigan is one of the top schools in the country. I know this board is very anti bigten but come on. We all know athletes are not generally representative of the quality od the academic insitution. I'm sure you can find a lot of low big east wonderlic scores too...
Quote from: spartan3186 on April 28, 2008, 03:36:36 PM
Saying that a couple athletes represent poor academics in the institution as a whole is ridiculous. Michigan is one of the top schools in the country. I know this board is very anti bigten but come on. We all know athletes are not generally representative of the quality od the academic insitution. I'm sure you can find a lot of low big east wonderlic scores too...
I preume Ecompt was referring to the academics for the student athletes. Obviously, most of the Big Ten schools are very good academically. I do agree, however, with Ecompt's point. Midwesterns (of which I am one) are usually quite sanctimonious when it comes to student athletes versus other regions/conferences. The truth of the matter is the Big Ten has had a tremendous amout of NCAA infractions/sanctions.
Hmm, sanctimonious ... sanctions. Perhaps there should be a new term: sanctionmonious! :P
I am sure someone could bring down the numbers, but you can't tell me that the ACC, PAC-10, and Big East have the number of institutions in trouble like the Big Ten has.
Quote from: ecompt on April 25, 2008, 10:45:03 PM
I was going on probations, arrests, etc. UW (free shoes, no discipline of student-athletes), Michigan (Fab Five, etc.), Ohio State (phony classes, etc.), Indiana (phone calls), Northwestern (garnbling)...yes, sir, it's quite a league.
Hey, don't forget Penn State! Here is a recent quote from Stewart Mandel:
"While there are no official NCAA statistics in this category, according to the Centre Daily Times, more than 60 Nittany Lions players have broken the law since 2002. That bears repeating. Sixty. A little more than a year ago, six players were charged with felonies following an incident in which safety Anthony Scirrotto essentially rounded up a posse to confront several men at an apartment party, where all hell broke loose (Scirrotto later pled guilty to defiant trespass). More recently, a since-dismissed player, Chris Bell, allegedly pulled a knife on a teammate."
Quote from: MUinCO on April 28, 2008, 05:03:08 PM
Hey, don't forget Penn State! Here is a recent quote from Stewart Mandel:
"While there are no official NCAA statistics in this category, according to the Centre Daily Times, more than 60 Nittany Lions players have broken the law since 2002. That bears repeating. Sixty. A little more than a year ago, six players were charged with felonies following an incident in which safety Anthony Scirrotto essentially rounded up a posse to confront several men at an apartment party, where all hell broke loose (Scirrotto later pled guilty to defiant trespass). More recently, a since-dismissed player, Chris Bell, allegedly pulled a knife on a teammate."
I'll bet Wisconsin-Madison is damn close....my buddy was going to start a website called the BadgerBlotter it was so bad. And he's a BADGER ALUM. He was so disgusted by the constant arrests, beatings, etc that he was determined to put it up. I think Barry sent someone to his house threatening to break his kneecaps if he did. ;)
I think he just sent Booker Stanley after him...anyone remember those pictures, it looks like he tried to deliver a baby in an elevator he had so much blood on him
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on April 29, 2008, 12:33:59 PM
I think he just sent Booker Stanley after him...anyone remember those pictures, it looks like he tried to deliver a baby in an elevator he had so much blood on him
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Living in the middle of Hoosier Nation, you'd be surprised how many people are upset with this new development. The majority think Greenspan should be sent packing immediately and all self imposed sanctions should remain until after the NCAA meeting. They're discussed with how poor the University's oversight was, regardless of how the coach was - the university was responsible, not just the coach.
But everyone still likes Crean.