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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 17, 2008, 07:49:46 PM
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is really giving Mr. Iscariot a bad name. 8-)
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+1
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I think it's sad. Anyone who supports it reminds me of a girl who can't stop eating ice cream because of a use a guy she insits she is completely over. I know fryboy is shaped like said girl :P
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It's funny for a little bit, but after a while it's just sour grapes. Screw that guy. Let's move on. I finally have.
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Screw Crean... Screw Coach Crean... Screw Tom Crean...
I love it... it's not getting old... it's getting better!! ;D
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I don't like it.
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I think it's sad. Anyone who supports it reminds me of a girl who can't stop eating ice cream because of a use a guy she insits she is completely over. I know fryboy is shaped like said girl :P
Rawdog likes his women nasty and unable to spell. :-*
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It's funny for a little bit, but after a while it's just sour grapes. Screw that guy. Let's move on. I finally have.
Dude. What's with the avatar?
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It's hilarious. Crean is a dick.
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I think the whole Judas thing is totally lame. Seriously. The whole Crean & Treason, Tanning Cream, etc. All of it. Lame and tiresome.
Get over it already. He's gone. The way he left makes him look like an ass. We don't need to lower ourselves to that level by dwelling on it like a bunch of babies. The name calling and all of this crap does nothing but make eveyone that participates in it look like, well, a bunch of whiny little twerps. Why don't we act like adults instead of name-calling, bitchy little children and get over it?
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Actually I think it's a guy thing. It has nothing to do with snivelling or whining. It has everything to do with laughing at a gutless piece of crap.
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Actually I think it's a guy thing. It has nothing to do with snivelling or whining. It has everything to do with laughing at a gutless piece of crap.
Oh, yeah. Because i get a hearty man-laugh in every time some script automatically changes cr ean's name. It's pathetic joyless snivelling
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no, it's taking the piss out of a guy who lacks guts and courage. it's not that he left but how he left. if he handled it like a man i would be ok with it. he didn't. he is a friggin gutless coward. he treated his bosses, his fans, and worst of all his men like crap. in my world we have zero tolerance for cowards. it's all about character and integrity - if you don't have that you can forget about courage. crean's behavior is despicable. he deserves a warrior's scorn.
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no, it's taking the piss out of a guy who lacks guts and courage. it's not that he left but how he left. if he handled it like a man i would be ok with it. he didn't. he is a friggin gutless coward. he treated his bosses, his fans, and worst of all his men like crap. in my world we have zero tolerance for cowards. it's all about character and integrity - if you don't have that you can forget about courage. Judas's behavior is despicable. he deserves a warrior's scorn.
didn't realize that warrior's scorn = bunch of bitter guys on a chat room having a script replace names. you win, i'm convinced.
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didn't realize that warrior's scorn = bunch of bitter guys on a chat room having a script replace names. you win, i'm convinced.
+1
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I jsut htink as Marquette we could be much more creative about the name. Either that or we could build a bridge and get over it.
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I still am getting a chuckle out of it. It's fun.
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Some people hit a punching bag when they're mad. Others meditate. Others still play golf. Whatever gets your anger out, makes you feel fine, doesn't necessarily have to be "constructive".
P.S.- It's funny too.
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It is funny and I admire the creativity to help with the venting and healing. Personally, I am 99% over it. We aren't the first school to have this happen, we won't be the last. And we aren't the first group to find, once the bloom is off the rose, that the exact same traits that attracted us to somebody in the first place now do nothing but annoy the snot out of us. It is like a messy divorce. We are the betrayed. The time will come to man up, move on, and get out there and see what happens. It has for me. In the mean time, juvenile pranks rock!
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There's a fundamental difference between hitting a punching bag or playing golf or meditating and dwelling on something that happened two weeks ago and incessantly calling someone names.
The first two things are actual diversions that can be used to divert your attention to peripheral activities. The latter only serves to dwell on the problem and to deepen frustration and prolong feelings of misery.
It may have been creative and funny for the first couple of days. But not anymore.
Anyone here who had a personal relationship with our former coach knows what type of person he is. A man's character is demonstrated by his actions. With how he conducted himself during his final days here, he took off his used car salesman grin and showed us all what type of unsavory person he is.
Why can't you people just leave it at that?
There is no reason for anyone here to stoop to the level of inane name calling. It's classless, and we should all be above this sort of thing. It is of absolutely no benefit to anyone involved with the University in any way whatsoever to prolong this ordeal. It makes the entire community appear childish. And the worst part is, no matter how warranted it may be, NO ONE likes to hear anyone whining.
It does nothing but make everyone involved in the pissing contest look like a bunch of Cryin' Illini fans after Bill Self left.
We're better than that. I know we are. I saw it in my time at MU. Please drop it. Get over it. What's done is done, let's lick our wounds and move on amicably like adults.
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Dante puts Judas along with brutus cassius and Lucifer in the lowest level of hell. Cre*n's not that bad
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It is funny and I admire the creativity to help with the venting and healing. Personally, I am 99% over it. We aren't the first school to have this happen, we won't be the last. And we aren't the first group to find, once the bloom is off the rose, that the exact same traits that attracted us to somebody in the first place now do nothing but annoy the snot out of us. It is like a messy divorce. We are the betrayed. The time will come to man up, move on, and get out there and see what happens. It has for me. In the mean time, juvenile pranks rock!
+1
Tom Crean :)
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Dude. What's with the avatar?
Funny. I never noticed you used it too. I liked it best out of all the MU logos.
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There's a fundamental difference between hitting a punching bag or playing golf or meditating and dwelling on something that happened two weeks ago and incessantly calling someone names.
The first two things are actual diversions that can be used to divert your attention to peripheral activities. The latter only serves to dwell on the problem and to deepen frustration and prolong feelings of misery.
It may have been creative and funny for the first couple of days. But not anymore.
Anyone here who had a personal relationship with our former coach knows what type of person he is. A man's character is demonstrated by his actions. With how he conducted himself during his final days here, he took off his used car salesman grin and showed us all what type of unsavory person he is.
Why can't you people just leave it at that?
There is no reason for anyone here to stoop to the level of inane name calling. It's classless, and we should all be above this sort of thing. It is of absolutely no benefit to anyone involved with the University in any way whatsoever to prolong this ordeal. It makes the entire community appear childish. And the worst part is, no matter how warranted it may be, NO ONE likes to hear anyone whining.
It does nothing but make everyone involved in the pissing contest look like a bunch of Cryin' Illini fans after Bill Self left.
We're better than that. I know we are. I saw it in my time at MU. Please drop it. Get over it. What's done is done, let's lick our wounds and move on amicably like adults.
blah blah blah...thanks for the sermon.
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Hey MUMD04 and RawdogDX, next time you have some words of wisdom please feel free to use this...
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It may have been creative and funny for the first couple of days. But not anymore.
It's only been a day! It will be turned off in the near future. My suggestion, if it bothers you so much. Come back in a few days and you'll be able to pretend it never happened.
Oh, yeah. Because i get a hearty man-laugh in every time some script automatically changes cr ean's name.
Is it so wrong that I do *actually* get a hearty man laugh nearly every time someone speaks of Tom Crean? Hah. Count yourself as one of our more sophisticated posters - unfortunately that doesn't come with a reward. Have a few sips of that Cognac beside you as you sit in your study browsing the internet, and realize that it's done in jest. We're not hate filled fans, we just have a sense of humor.
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exactly rocky! even if that sense of humor is one of an 8th grader ;)
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Crean
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Crean h priest
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I really don't care about Judas - I despise him - but that's not to say I give a crap about him. I like taking the piss out of him because it's funny to crap down the throat of a self-centered dick. What I do care about is schwacking rat bastard terrorists while screaming along at 50 feet off the deck - that is a kick in the pants.
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I really don't care about Judas - I despise him - but that's not to say I give a crap about him. I like taking the piss out of him because it's funny to crap down the throat of an self-centered dick. What I do care about is schwacking rat bastard jihadis while screaming along at 50 feet off the deck - that is a kick in the pants.
Oh where to begin...
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Hards, maybe you don't understand but the bottom line with Judas is that he forgot about his men, including the 4 guys he made a promise to last fall. You always take care of your men. Clearly, Judas doesn't get that or he would've handled things much differently. This guy will never be a wingman because no one should ever trust him. It's Indiana...It's Indiana. Give me a friggin' break
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It's only been a day! It will be turned off in the near future. My suggestion, if it bothers you so much. Come back in a few days and you'll be able to pretend it never happened.
Is it so wrong that I do *actually* get a hearty man laugh nearly every time someone speaks of Tanning Cream? Hah. Count yourself as one of our more sophisticated posters - unfortunately that doesn't come with a reward. Have a few sips of that Cognac beside you as you sit in your study browsing the internet, and realize that it's done in jest. We're not hate filled fans, we just have a sense of humor.
I don't remember ever mentioning tanning cream (which is actually creative and funny), this thread was about the scripted judas changes. and you can say 'we' if you want but that is silly to claim that there aren't any hate filled fans. But i don't really care do if villifing is how you deal with greif then go for it.
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I was over it long before it happened. ;D
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Hards, maybe you don't understand but the bottom line with Judas is that he forgot about his men, including the 4 guys he made a promise to last fall. You always take care of your men. Clearly, Judas doesn't get that or he would've handled things much differently. This guy will never be a wingman because no one should ever trust him. It's Indiana...It's Indiana. Give me a friggin' break
::) yeah he really left them to die in a fox hole. ::)
Are you going to spend the rest of your life comparing everything to a battlefield?
"Did you see the way that gas station attendant didn't ask me if i wanted a recite? He'd never make it as a sniper!"
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It's about a guy who one-wayed his team. Oh, sorry, It's Indiana...It's Indiana
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Rawdog - what's a sniper?
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Rawdog - what's a sniper?
Rent the Tom Berrenger movie, it will explain it to you. THey made a sequal but it isn't nearly as good.
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I don't remember ever mentioning tanning cream (which is actually creative and funny), this thread was about the scripted judas changes.
The phrase Tom Cre@n gets replaced with Tanning Cream automatically too. It's "scripted" as well. Been there since Judas was around.
and you can say 'we' if you want but that is silly to claim that there aren't any hate filled fans.
Oh, I'm sure there are some hate filled fans - trust me we've banned plenty of them :) However, the "we" that put in the Judas "script" are fun loving guys - that I can guarantee you. Also I really feel silly calling it a script - it's much cooler than that. It's a database driven filter.
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You guys whining and calling Crean Judas sound like the bitter, girl-just-broke-up-with-me, sourgrapes filled fans from West Virginia after Rodriguez left.
Get over it already.
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You guys whining and calling Judas Judas sound like the bitter, girl-just-broke-up-with-me, sourgrapes filled fans from West Virginia after Rodriguez left.
Get over it already.
Hmm...lemme get this straight....
Crean Judas
Yup, still works.
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Yikes.
I actually agree with Rawdogg as well, but I also know it's just for fun for most people.
But, (not to start another argument) couldn't you also make "Golden Eagles" turn into "Warriors" whenever it is typed?
It's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?
Moving on...
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But, (not to start another argument) couldn't you also make "Golden Eagles" turn into "Warriors" whenever it is typed?
Now that's a great idea.
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...and can you make me thinner, with more hair?
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Rocky - I say you continue with the scripting changes for the forseeable future. Is it juvenile? Hell yea, but so is Animal House and I laugh at that too.
Difference though is that Belushi was incapable of leaving his men behind, unlike The Tanned One.
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Plus, Belushi knew it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. But yes, juvenile acts of defiance and retaliation can be fun.
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Yo Niv, this isn't even close to what WVU fans did Rodriguez...here are a list of just a few things those backwood, podunk, whiskey making fans did
~Physically threaten Rodriguez family members in public
~Burn effegee's (sp?) of the Rodriguez family
~Get Rodriguez's brother to quit his job
~Threaten children of the Rodriguez family
This is stupid script the mods put in for fun...lighten up
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Coach Crean
Tom Crean
Yup... still funny to me!! ;D
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tom Judas
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coach judas
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Hards, maybe you don't understand but the bottom line with Judas is that he forgot about his men, including the 4 guys he made a promise to last fall. You always take care of your men. Clearly, Judas doesn't get that or he would've handled things much differently. This guy will never be a wingman because no one should ever trust him. It's Indiana...It's Indiana. Give me a friggin' break
Look, I understand the bottom line, but this is a business. If you don't understand that this is a business, not a brotherhood, that is your journey. I don't agree with the way he handled things, but even the comparison to Judas is a bit of a stretch. Judas betrayed Jesus, TC more or less abandoned his squad... quite a difference if context means anything anymore... which in the modern world, it apparently doesn't... up is now down, left is now right, and so on and so forth.
TC did get take care of his men by training them well, coaching them (not so well in my opinion), and by getting them a great education.... He left them to advance his own career... boo hoo. It isn't like the kids are losing out on anything that special with TC gone. If anything, HE was the one holding them back... so perhaps, he did them a favor ;)
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Hards,
I understand this is a business but, unlike an accountant leaving PWC, a college basketball coach has much more personal allegiances, particularly to his players. If a guy leaves PepsiCo, he walks out the door. If a college coach leaves, he has far greater turn-over duties than in the private commercial sector. Here in the USAF, when it's my turn to hand over the reins of this squadron, I have an extensive check list that we will go through in order to ensure a smooth, comprehensive turn-over. Unlike the commercial private sector, my wife and I are actively involved in the lives and affairs of my people. She takes care of the families when we are deployed to the sand box. If a young airman screws up with a local creditor I get called. If he has a police issue, it's my phone that rings at 0300. That level of involvement does not happen at PepsiCo, for instance.
I was sent to the HBS MBA program. Classmates from Harvard have asked me to speak at their off-sites (PepsiCo, BCG, Bain.) The subject is leadership. I have shared perspective on how we are much more involved in the personal and professional lives of our people, unlike at Bain or BCG. I compare this responsibility to that of Judas's at MU - he took full respsonsibility for the growth and development of his men. He was much more involved in their lives, well-being, and growth than just being a teacher.
Let me make this clear: I have no problem that he left MU for IU. You're right - that's business. I have a huge problem with the sneaky, underhanded way in which he did it, particularly the manner in which he disengaged. It was chicken-crap and he knew it. If you make the decision to leave, handle it with dignity and class. More important, take care of the people who signed up for your program. Crean is gutless and spineless and he betrayed his men. He should be ashamed but I think he has no problem at all getting his beauty rest.
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Wait...warthog...you're in the military? I had no idea.
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Hards,
I understand this is a business but, unlike an accountant leaving PWC, a college basketball coach has much more personal allegiances, particularly to his players. If a guy leaves PepsiCo, he walks out the door. If a college coach leaves, he has far greater turn-over duties than in the private commercial sector. Here in the USAF, when it's my turn to hand over the reins of this squadron, I have an extensive check list that we will go through in order to ensure a smooth, comprehensive turn-over. Unlike the commercial private sector, my wife and I are actively involved in the lives and affairs of my people. She takes care of the families when we are deployed to the sand box. If a young airman screws up with a local creditor I get called. If he has a police issue, it's my phone that rings at 0300. That level of involvement does not happen at PepsiCo, for instance.
I was sent to the HBS MBA program. Classmates from Harvard have asked me to speak at their off-sites (PepsiCo, BCG, Bain.) The subject is leadership. I have shared perspective on how we are much more involved in the personal and professional lives of our people, unlike at Bain or BCG. I compare this responsibility to that of Judas's at MU - he took full respsonsibility for the growth and development of his men. He was much more involved in their lives, well-being, and growth than just being a teacher.
Let me make this clear: I have no problem that he left MU for IU. You're right - that's business. I have a huge problem with the sneaky, underhanded way in which he did it, particularly the manner in which he disengaged. It was chicken-crap and he knew it. If you make the decision to leave, handle it with dignity and class. More important, take care of the people who signed up for your program. Judas is gutless and spineless and he betrayed his men. He should be ashamed but I think he has no problem at all getting his beauty rest.
well, I'm sorry, but I live in reality where this sort of thing happens all the time. Contracts are rarely, if ever, lived up to in the world of sports nowadays. Yes, we all yearn for the days where there was loyalty and honor, but this just isn't the case currently... There are no more Al's there are no more Naismith's. We are left with a pool of mercenaries which we have to select from and hope they stick around.
But, I will agree, as I have in the past, I don't like the way he left either, and I agree it was sneaky. I just suppose it is in me to let things go quickly and move on and forgive (perhaps as Jesus taught us?). If everyone else wants to lower themselves to name calling, that is their perogative... but count me out, I prefer the intelligent high road. 8-)
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This is like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry liked to make fun of his girlfriend's belly button..."HELLOOO...LALALA"
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Look, I understand the bottom line, but this is a business. If you don't understand that this is a business, not a brotherhood, that is your journey. I don't agree with the way he handled things, but even the comparison to Judas is a bit of a stretch. Judas betrayed Jesus, TC more or less abandoned his squad... quite a difference if context means anything anymore... which in the modern world, it apparently doesn't... up is now down, left is now right, and so on and so forth.
TC did get take care of his men by training them well, coaching them (not so well in my opinion), and by getting them a great education.... He left them to advance his own career... boo hoo. It isn't like the kids are losing out on anything that special with TC gone. If anything, HE was the one holding them back... so perhaps, he did them a favor ;)
Sorry if you're offended, Mrs. Crean.
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Wait...warthog...you're in the military? I had no idea.
He is? I thought 'warthogdriver' was a Halo reference.
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He is? I thought 'warthogdriver' was a Halo reference.
Come to think of it, Rawdog has been known to be a "warthog driver" once or twice before. ;D
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Sorry if you're offended, Mrs. Judas.
I'm not offended, I was just pointing out that its childish, kiddo.
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Wait...warthog...you're in the military? I had no idea.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Is there any chance in hell that Tom Crean even reads this board?
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"Marquette? Are you referring to the town up in the UP?"
We are so far off his radar he could care less about Marquette. How else do you account for his behavior and how he treated his men. Tom Crean is a self-absorbed ass.
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What are you guys talking about.. who is this Judas? If you mean Crean why not just say so? ;)
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Yes! It is over! Although it is interesting to see who typed Judas and who typed Crean.