he's a highly regarded young assistant coach from UA........Texas heritage. An extraordinary recruiter. Here is a link to a blog with an update
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/marquette-and-texas-high-school-basketball
Wow...
More info...
AZ Profile:
http://www.arizonaathletics.com/sport/page.aspx?id=1494 (http://www.arizonaathletics.com/sport/page.aspx?id=1494)
Rivals Story:
http://arizona.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=974&CID=528337 (http://arizona.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=974&CID=528337)
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 17, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
Wow...
agreed........Pastner has a sterling reputation -- if Buzz can steal him from Lute, holy cow
If he can get Pastner, that would be a bigger coup than any player he could have gotten as a recruit. The guy is a stud, one of the best assistants in the country both recruiting and coaching.
Folks here may like this line...
"His dedication to the program can be seen in the outstanding play of Arizona's front line. Former Wildcat All-Americans Luke Walton and Channing Frye each flourished under Pastner's tutelage. Both showed marked improvement each season under Pastner, eventually turning themselves into NBA draft picks – Walton a second-round pick by the Los Angeles Lakers in 2003 and Frye a first-round pick of the New York Knicks in 2005."
http://www.arizonaathletics.com/sport/page.aspx?id=1494 (http://www.arizonaathletics.com/sport/page.aspx?id=1494)
I likey!!
Quote from: NYWarrior on April 17, 2008, 07:17:04 PM
agreed........Pastner has a sterling reputation -- if Buzz can steal him from Lute, holy cow
When Buzz said he was only going to higher the best, he meant it. I think I just might adopt Texas as my new home state!
I said I was happy to give Buzz a shot, but I wasn't as confident as I'd like to be on the hire. He still hasn't won a game, but he's putting himself in a good position to win more than a few.
Have to try it as well.... Tome Crean Who ?-(
I saw Coach and another guy in the union yesterday. All I saw of the other guy was that he was wearing a blue jacket with a red and white "A" on it. Hopefully this isn't just a coincidence.
Quote from: NYWarrior on April 17, 2008, 07:07:38 PM
he's a highly regarded young assistant coach from UA........Texas heritage. An extraordinary recruiter
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/marquette-and-texas-high-school-basketball
I'd be thrilled with this hire!!
Can't disagree with anything that's being said here about Pastner. Frankly surprised U of A wouldn't do everything in their power to keep him, as there has been talk for 10 years about him eventually being the head man there, but if not, this would be an absolutely fantastic hire for MU.
This sounds almost too good to be true.
I think just about anyone can recruit for U of A------what Buzz needs to succeed is a guy next to him who can coach!
Quote from: Murffieus on April 17, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
I think just about anyone can recruit for U of A------what Buzz needs to succeed is a guy next to him who can coach!
Murff......send in your resume ::)
Quote from: Murffieus on April 17, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
I think just about anyone can recruit for U of A------what Buzz needs to succeed is a guy next to him who can coach!
Murff, we will have to disagree on this one to an extent....yes UA has some great things going for it. But Pastner, if we hired him, was on the cutting edge of internet recruiting when it first started. He played as a walk on at UA if I recall and then really went to town on recruiting in a different way. Very creative guy and he's young and hungry.
He also started his own AAU team for awhile so he knows how all that "fun" stuff works, too. Out here in the west, he has a very strong reputation. I could see him making this move because it's hard for him to move up at UA.
If Buzz gets this guy, that would be a terrific hire in my opinion.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 17, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
Murff, we will have to disagree on this one to an extent....yes UA has some great things going for it. But Pastner, if we hired him, was on the cutting edge of internet recruiting when it first started. He played as a walk on at UA if I recall and then really went to town on recruiting in a different way. Very creative guy and he's young and hungry.
Yeah? What did he do, hit up their MySpaces?
Quote from: Murffieus on April 17, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
I think just about anyone can recruit for U of A------what Buzz needs to succeed is a guy next to him who can coach!
Agreed and I'm sure Buzz also agrees. That said, this would be a coup for MU. We've got plenty of room for assistants. I am sure Buzz will hire a x's and o's guy.
While Josh has obviously recruiting inroads in his native Texas, his many years at U of A resulted in a valued presence both in AZ and CA. Should Josh become a Warrior's assistant, MU would have instant credibility with any recruit nationwide.
This would be a terrific hire for Buzz and the University.
my sister is good buddies w him and they went to college together, ill dig up some dirt and dish it back, i know he's a good guy, scored her some awesome tickets many a times to some AZ games in the area. im sure he has good credentials too
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 17, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
Yeah? What did he do, hit up their MySpaces?
I probably should have said electronic recruiting. Pastner was very big into text and electronic recruiting and utilizing those loopholes that existed. He's a young guy, he gets technology and how kids use it today...he's new school if you know what I mean.
Quote from: cheesey on April 17, 2008, 07:48:55 PM
I saw Coach and another guy in the union yesterday. All I saw of the other guy was that he was wearing a blue jacket with a red and white "A" on it. Hopefully this isn't just a coincidence.
No offense, but if the guy was in for an interview, do you really think he wears an Arizona jacket to the interview?
I know what I saw. I just wasn't sure if it was Arizona's A logo.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 17, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Should Josh become a Warrior's assistant, MU would have instant credibility with any recruit nationwide.
Bingo
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on April 17, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
No offense, but if the guy was in for an interview, do you really think he wears an Arizona jacket to the interview?
If he's from Arizona, it's probably the only warm jacket he owns.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on April 17, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
No offense, but if the guy was in for an interview, do you really think he wears an Arizona jacket to the interview?
Yup...from what I've seen that's not at all disrespectful or inappropriate.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 17, 2008, 08:33:26 PM
I probably should have said electronic recruiting. Pastner was very big into text and electronic recruiting and utilizing those loopholes that existed. He's a young guy, he gets technology and how kids use it today...he's new school if you know what I mean.
Ahh, gotcha. Thanks Chicos.
So I mean...if that meant text messaging guys on their Sidekicks and e-mailing/Facebooking/MySpacing...dude...a middle school kid could do that!
But naw, this guy sounds like a real go getter. It'd be a nice pick-up...guess Buzz doesn't just recruit players!
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 17, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
Ahh, gotcha. Thanks Chicos.
So I mean...if that meant text messaging guys on their Sidekicks and e-mailing/Facebooking/MySpacing...dude...a middle school kid could do that!
But naw, this guy sounds like a real go getter. It'd be a nice pick-up...guess Buzz doesn't just recruit players!
They were one of the first schools to really take advantage of that type of recruiting where many schools were in the dark ages. Bo Ryan, Boeheim, etc even last year never used text messaging and lobbied to kill it in the NCAA. Kids use text messaging and Pastner and others were at the forefront of that type of recruiting right from the start.
Josh is part of hoops royalty in Houston and Texas. He is a rising star in the basketball world. I couldn't stand the kid when I went to college with him, but he would be a hell of an addition to the staff.
I say, Hire Pastner, and we've got our next assistant to head coach move if Buzz doesn't work out:
"It became evident to me when he was 16 that he would succeed as a college coach as I turned over our Houston Hoops AAU program to him. He had the respect of every player - many who ended up in the NBA and most of them were the same age or older than him. He handled travel arrangements, hotels, practices, the problems with players, etc. All that was necessary in running a successful program, he did it. His years of being a head coach for the Houston Hoops at the level we played were a valuable experience. When he was very young we would travel into the remote communities in Texas hearing about a player and meeting their Moms and Dads in their homes to recruit them talking about the positives of playing with the Houston Hoops. In 1999, he coached a team comprised of Emeka Okafor, TJ Ford, Lawrence Roberts, Marcus Spears (1st round pick of the Cowboys who could have been an NBA player too) and Carlos Hurt (who I still believe was one of the greatest high school players I've seen). Josh won the Global Championships in Oregon with this squad on a buzzer shot and I was so happy for him and the kids since I knew how much they wanted to win."
http://arizona.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=974&CID=528337
Pastner sounds great for his switched on perspective on the generation playing the game. Uh...of course JG disagrees so we must be missing something.
As for the alleged "jacket with a red A" thing that's a bit of a stretch.
Quote from: Eye on April 17, 2008, 07:59:37 PM
Can't disagree with anything that's being said here about Pastner. Frankly surprised U of A wouldn't do everything in their power to keep him, as there has been talk for 10 years about him eventually being the head man there, but if not, this would be an absolutely fantastic hire for MU.
I wonder if the, "Kevin O'Neill next head coach at U of A," announcement left a sour taste in Pastner's mouth.
77ncaachamps wrote: I say, Hire Pastner, and we've got our next assistant to head coach move if Buzz doesn't work out
You are way off base with this! Don't you know your Andy Katz? Hiring assistants is a huge gamble!
Quote from: cheesey on April 17, 2008, 07:48:55 PM
I saw Coach and another guy in the union yesterday. All I saw of the other guy was that he was wearing a blue jacket with a red and white "A" on it. Hopefully this isn't just a coincidence.
just checked out the u of a bookstore online - the do have blue jackets with red and white a's on them. hmmmmmmmmmmm...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 17, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
Murff, we will have to disagree on this one to an extent....yes UA has some great things going for it. But Pastner, if we hired him, was on the cutting edge of internet recruiting when it first started. He played as a walk on at UA if I recall and then really went to town on recruiting in a different way. Very creative guy and he's young and hungry.
He also started his own AAU team for awhile so he knows how all that "fun" stuff works, too. Out here in the west, he has a very strong reputation. I could see him making this move because it's hard for him to move up at UA.
If Buzz gets this guy, that would be a terrific hire in my opinion.
You're correct Chicos, JP was a walk-on at U of A, including on the championship team. Has been involved in the program in some fashion, as a player, behind-the-scenes guy or coach for about a dozen years now. I'd guess he's about 30 years old. He was U of A's top assistant this year after Lute stepped aside and KO moved up. Miles Simon was their other assistant. Give him another five years, and I think he'll make a pretty darned good D1 coach. As I said earlier, surprised U of A would let him go, but he'd be a fantastic hire for MU.
Pastner's father runs a Houston aau team and tourney. Josh started out coaching aau.
Quote from: warthogdriver on April 18, 2008, 12:03:18 AM
77ncaachamps wrote: I say, Hire Pastner, and we've got our next assistant to head coach move if Buzz doesn't work out
You are way off base with this! Don't you know your Andy Katz? Hiring assistants is a huge gamble!
Did you forget your teal?
No worries, I fixed ^^^that! ;)
Quote from: MUSF on April 17, 2008, 11:57:45 PM
I wonder if the, "Kevin O'Neill next head coach at U of A," announcement left a sour taste in Pastner's mouth.
O'Neill is now out, but I do wonder if that entire episode, but Olson coming back the way he did, is now put the entire program in chaos.
Quote from: warthogdriver on April 18, 2008, 12:03:18 AM
77ncaachamps wrote: I say, Hire Pastner, and we've got our next assistant to head coach move if Buzz doesn't work out
You are way off base with this! Don't you know your Andy Katz? Hiring assistants is a huge gamble!
Hiring assistants who have been with the program for 9 months is a huge gamble.
Pastner's hiring would result in a whole new list of 2009 recruits. I'm certain he has established very solid relationships with these athletes that Marquette would be the beneficiary of.
See below from a friend who closely follows the AZ program on Pastner:
Pastner "played" on the 97 championship team. He was the human victory cigar. His father Hal Pastner is the Dean of AAU hoops and started the Houston Hoops program. He also runs the Kingwood Classic which is the biggest AAU tourney in the country. After he finished playing, Pastner stayed on as a student assistant and then a full time assistant. He is known as one of the top recruiters because of his non-stop schedule...he never sleeps...and all that. He has secured a lot of big commitments from high ranked Houston players-Jawaan McClellan, Fendi Onubon and Nic Wise. They were all pretty highly ranked and have turned out to be overrated. The vaunted Houston pipeline has been a disappointment at Arizona. He also recruited Endi Ebi out of Houston who was the #1 ranked player in the country, promised he would not go pro, and then entered the draft on the very last day without ever calling Lute to inform him of his decision. This set the program back a ton and Ebi is already out of the NBA and washing cars for a living.
Pastner is certainly a good recruiter, although it has never been too difficult to recruit for Lute Olson-see Kevin O'Neil. He was the lead recruiter on Bayless and Budinger, but again-they came to play for Lute. He is fiercely loyal to Lute and UofA and actually turned down the Kentucky head assistant job last year . The word is that he is good friends with Buzz Williams, however he informed Buzz that he will be staying at Arizona.
He sending a link that supposedly indicates Pastner is staying with Lute. I'll post when I get it. Hopefully he's wrong. Would be a great hire for BW.
I like the line "human victory cigar".
Reading his bio on the Arizona page I see he played in 42 games over his 4 seasons. Arizona's record in those games was 42-0.
Maybe it's the other way around.. Maybe Pastner is going to be the new UofA coach and is checking Buzz out to be an assistant (ergo, start the Buzz to Arizona rumor) :P
This would be the first time in history that a university made a bigger splash in hiring an assistant than they did in replacing a head coach.
And a incredible "get" for Buzz. I would think about joining the Buzz Bandwagon if this happens....
77...you took the thought out of my mouth. Get him, and you now potentially have a successor program in place.
Arizona is a mess now with the O'Neal debacle as for who will be replacing Lute. But it obviously must not be him as he's not seasoned enough. If we can get him, we now would have two very proven recruiters and we'd still have to hope the coaching can somewhat match the talent of the players.
I would love this hire if it happens.
Everyone realize that MU is becoming Texas North? Who'd a thunk it a few years or even weeks ago.
Everyone realize that MU is becoming Texas North? Who'd a thunk it a few years or even weeks ago.
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not sure if this is a good thing, but will welcome the cheerleaders!!!
Quote from: BrewCity on April 18, 2008, 01:52:36 PM
+2 !
+ =)
(http://www.hottestgirlsofcheerleading.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/texaschaps.jpg)
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 18, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
+ =)
(http://www.hottestgirlsofcheerleading.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/texaschaps.jpg)
yeehaaaa
(actually replied with quote just to keep this pic up on the board more!)
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 18, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
+ =)
(http://www.hottestgirlsofcheerleading.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/texaschaps.jpg)
Quote from: TVDirector on April 18, 2008, 06:52:49 PM
yeehaaaa
(actually replied with quote just to keep this pic up on the board more!)
+1
Anything new on this?
Arizona board says he isn't coming, but who knows how credible that is.
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?t=78271
Chico - Thanks for the link.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2008, 07:48:06 PM
Arizona board says he isn't coming, but who knows how credible that is.
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?t=78271
not a very credible source... one guy said he's not going to Marquette.
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 18, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
not a very credible source... one guy said he's not going to Marquette.
WHO CARES RIGHT NOW?!?! ;)
We have the Texas Cheerleaders!
(http://www.bevosports.com/images/cheerleader_sex.jpg)
You can't spell TEXAS without SEX! LOL! :D
dont be a pig.
just kidding- who makes those women out there? cant the same God come to Milwaukee?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2008, 07:48:06 PM
Arizona board says he isn't coming, but who knows how credible that is.
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?t=78271
That was just one guy stating his opinion. There was no inside info. If we pulled this off, it would be great.
I was in heaven at the BC for the regionals years ago when Texas, Tulsa, USC, and others played..., cheerleader heaven.
Like I said, who knows about the credibility.
As for the cheerleaders....come on guys. Simple. Warm weather = hot women. Very simple formula. As a native Texan and someone who has lived in California for 20+ years along with over a decade in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and Kansas....warmth = where the hot women live (and for that matter, where a lot of people live in general).
Quote from: augoman on April 18, 2008, 09:00:02 PM
I was in heaven at the BC for the regionals years ago when Texas, Tulsa, USC, and others played..., cheerleader heaven.
So was I....I got to work the event and had to escort the cheerleaders back and forth....it was a tough job, but someone had to do it. ;D
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2008, 09:04:05 PM
So was I....I got to work the event and had to escort the cheerleaders back and forth....it was a tough job, but someone had to do it. ;D
I assume you paid for the assignment.
FYI--spoke to my sister this mornin who is friends with him from arizona, she spoke to him after i mentioned reading this, and he said he most likely isnt gonna be coaching at MU
Quote from: StillWarriors on April 18, 2008, 09:34:20 AM
He has secured a lot of big commitments from high ranked Houston players-Jawaan McClellan, Fendi Onubon and Nic Wise. They were all pretty highly ranked and have turned out to be overrated.
Not trying to steal the thread, but have to disagree on this assessment of Onubun and Wise. Onobun -- too early to tell IMHO. Wise was a fine player for U of A this year. I'd agree with your assessment of McClellan.
Quote from: Eye on April 18, 2008, 10:47:47 PM
Not trying to steal the thread, but have to disagree on this assessment of Onubun and Wise. Onobun -- too early to tell IMHO. Wise was a fine player for U of A this year. I'd agree with your assessment of McClellan.
With regard to McClellan he did have some injury issues that slowed him down. Both he and Olsen mentioned how he was half the athlete after his injuries and the time recovering took a lot out of him.
Semi-fair point on McClellan. Was just expecting him to be a big-time player and he never turned out to be.
Quote from: mudimitri on April 18, 2008, 08:51:52 PM
dont be a pig.
just kidding- who makes those women out there? cant the same God come to Milwaukee?
Buzz will be recruiting the cheerleaders now too. It's in his contract.
From his U of A bio:
"Pastner received his undergraduate degree in two‑and‑a‑half years, and his master's degree the following year, and started work on his doctorate. In his role as an undergraduate assistant in 2000-01, Pastner began pursuit of another undergraduate degree."
Damn. Dude's got some smarts.