Update on Taylor-MU
Written by: Todd Rosiak
Apparently there hasn't been much movement on the Tyshawn Taylor-MU front.
Taylor's coach at St. Anthony, Bob Hurley, reiterated again on Wednesday that he and Taylor still desire Taylor's release from the national letter of intent he signed with MU last fall. MU, meanwhile, said it's still waiting to hear from Taylor and his legal guardian, both of whom need to officially request a release.
Hurley has been outspoken about the situation from the outset, stating that Taylor signed to play for Tom Crean, that he is concerned about Buzz Williams' lack of head-coaching experience and also the number of guards expected to return to the Golden Eagles next season.
Hurley reiterated all three points again Wednesday, and questioned why the process was taking so long.
"It's a stall, there's no doubt about it," he said. "If they say otherwise...if this was St. Anthony's High School, and a young man's family came to me and told me that they were unhappy and would I sign our state waiver so that they would be eligible to play someplace else, if I'd done the best I could coaching and it wasn't working, I would sign it and they'd be gone and I'd wish them the best of luck.
"In a crowded backcourt to begin with, I don't know why...if all these kids are going to be returning it looks like there's going to be plenty of guards. If this kid wants to explore other options right now because the man that truly brought him there is gone, I don't know why we're still being held up by this."
Williams traveled to Jersey City last Friday to meet with both Taylor and Hurley.
Hurley said he met with Williams for about an hour and a half and that Williams met with Taylor and the school's athletic director, Joseph Whalen, for about three hours. He characterized it as a "fact-finding mission" and that while Williams came off well, it still wasn't enough to allay his and Taylor's concerns.
"I just needed to know some things about him, because I really only met him one other time," Hurley said. "They now know who he is. But in looking at things, you can't make up a coaching resume that doesn't exist. With all the things going on we haven't eliminated Marquette, but we would like him to use his two other visits as we're going through this process, just to have a little more information for him."
According to both Hurley and MU, St. Anthony has twice sent letters requesting Taylor's release. Both letters came from Whalen, however. In a situation such as this, the people who signed Taylor's letter of intent -- specifically Taylor and a legal guardian -- must also be the ones who request the release.
Hurley, meanwhile, spoke to MU athletic director Steve Cottingham shortly after Crean left for Indiana, but that apparently has been the only contact Hurley's had with the school.
"Our obligation is to the student-athlete," said deputy athletic director Mike Broeker. "And up to this point, neither Tyshawn nor his family has informed us of his decision."
Hurley twice referenced MU's release of Nick Williams, which occurred last Thursday, three days after Buzz Williams was hired.
"Their reasoning is he was recruited by one coach and that guy's gone and that's why he shouldn't...that's nonsense," Hurley said. "He wanted to play for Tom Crean, just like Tyshawn Taylor was going to Marquette to play for Tom Crean. He wasn't going to play for any assistant coaches. You prepare the kids for the fact that they potentially are not going to be there, that they're going to be looking to get other jobs."
Hurley wouldn't comment specifically when asked whether he had heard from Tom Crean since Crean left for Indiana.
"I think our conversation has enough of a negative tone that that question will remain unanswered," he said. "And I don't begrudge (coaches) for doing this stuff because I know that's part of the college game. So I don't feel that Tom Crean is no different than an awful lot of other people who perhaps make a couple moves over the course of their career. My only feeling is we're the adults in this; we can't hold the kids hostage."
Hurley also said that while Crean was still at MU Crean indicated to both he and Taylor that he didn't expect Dominic James to return next season. James has since said he is returning, however, and it appears likely that Jerel McNeal will also be back. With Wesley Matthews and David Cubillan also returning, Hurley believes Taylor would be "the odd man out."
I also asked Hurley if he'd gotten any feedback from his son, Dan, regarding the experiences of both Cubillan and Dwight Burke at MU. Both played for Dan Hurley at St. Benedict's Prep in Newark prior to coming to MU, and Cubillan remains especially close to him.
"I don't know. I guess you'd probably have to call him about that," said Hurley. "I've never heard any negatives. But I guess you'd have to talk to Danny about that."
(http://blogs.jsonline.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=159708)
http://blogs.jsonline.com/muhoops/archive/2008/04/16/update-on-taylor-mu.aspx
I think the bridge for Buzz to land anyone at St. Anthony's or St. Benedict's has officially been burned by playing hardball with the Taylor case.
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
"I think the bridge for Buzz to land anyone at St. Anthony's or St. Benedict's has officially been burned by playing hardball with the Taylor case."
I'd wait and see. If the hardball results in TT ending up here, and then flourishing here under Buzz, then the bridges are unburned. Of course, that is highly unlikely now.
Quote from: marqptm on April 16, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
Makes it sound like maybe the guardians don't want to sign it, and this whole thing is orhestrated by Hurley.
This Hurley guy is a class A jerk, plain and simple. Even if he has the kid's best interests in mind, he certainly is doing just about everything to sabotoge those interests.
His statements, as well as those of Taylor's, have changed from day to day and from week to week, as he attempts to further his agenda at MU's expense.
What a classless a** clown. I know we have a moratorium on name calling with respect to Hurley, but enough is enough.
Finally, I say that this guy's weak comparison to the St. Anthony's case is laughable and doesn't hold water. What a joke.
I think the fact that Taylor and his guardians haven't submitted a letter to MU requesting the release very telling.
Perhaps Taylor is going to tell Hurley to "stick it" with this one.
Quote from: MUCam on April 16, 2008, 02:45:22 PM
This Hurley guy is a class A jerk, plain and simple. Even if he has the kid's best interests in mind, he certainly is doing just about everything to sabotoge those interests.
His statements, as well as those of Taylor's, have changed from day to day and from week to week, as he attempts to further his agenda at MU's expense.
What a classless a** clown. I know we have a moratorium on name calling with respect to Hurley, but enough is enough.
Finally, I say that this guy's weak comparison to the St. Anthony's case is laughable and doesn't hold water. What a joke.
ditto... I share the same feelings with regard to the moratorium and Hurley.
Quote from: marqptm on April 16, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
Agreed.
Coach Hurley, stop grandstanding and get Taylor's paperwork in order.
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 16, 2008, 02:35:39 PM
I think the bridge for Buzz to land anyone at St. Anthony's or St. Benedict's has officially been burned by playing hardball with the Taylor case.
I wouldn't say we're playing hardball, rather playing by the rules. If TT and his legal guardian have not yet requested release from the LOI, then MU has no obligation (and might not be able to? just a guess) to do so.
Hurley isn't doing much to endear himself to the MU community, though, that's for sure.
How does Hurley, being the expert he is in this matter, not have the player or guardians sign the paperwork?
Sounds like MU is going to release him once the required signatures come so this is all on Hurley right now.
Quote from: The General on April 16, 2008, 02:45:56 PM
I think the fact that Taylor and his guardians haven't submitted a letter to MU requesting the release very telling.
Perhaps Taylor is going to tell Hurley to "stick it" with this one.
My thoughts and hopes exactly!
Quote from: ToddRosiakSays on April 16, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
"It's a stall, there's no doubt about it," he said. "If they say otherwise...if this was St. Anthony's High School, and a young man's family came to me and told me that they were unhappy and would I sign our state waiver so that they would be eligible to play someplace else
Coach Hurley ........ if that happens, maybe MU will follow the same tact.
I can understand Hurley's questions about Buzz's lack of HC experience, but this quote puzzles me:
Hurley also said that while Crean was still at MU Crean indicated to both he and Taylor that he didn't expect Dominic James to return next season. James has since said he is returning, however, and it appears likely that Jerel McNeal will also be back. With Wesley Matthews and David Cubillan also returning, Hurley believes Taylor would be "the odd man out."
If Crean had not left and everyone was coming back would TT still be looking to explore his options? To me they should have thought about that before signing the LOI not now. To me this whole situation is being used by Hurley becuase Taylor's stock rose during the year and now he might have better options.
Sorry about the name calling, but an idiot is an idiot. Marquette can't do anything without the required signatures from TT & his guardian. What is Hurley's IQ by the way? Something doesn't appear kosher with this guy Hurley.
Quote from: NYWarrior on April 16, 2008, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: ToddRosiakSays on April 16, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
"It's a stall, there's no doubt about it," he said. "If they say otherwise...if this was St. Anthony's High School, and a young man's family came to me and told me that they were unhappy and would I sign our state waiver so that they would be eligible to play someplace else
Coach Hurley ........ if that happens, maybe MU will follow the same tact.
Exactly. Talk to Taylor's family first before you start grandstanding.
Give me Jimmy Butler
Wasn't there even more of a logjam at guards (i.e. the current bunch, plus Christopherson plus N. Williams) when TT signed? The idea that DJ's return makes the difference just doesn't hold, because even with that there are fewer guards now than were expected in the fall.
The more this guy speaks, the less credible he becomes.
Anyone else pick up on this?
"Hurley wouldn't comment specifically when asked whether he had heard from Tom Crean since Crean left for Indiana.
"I think our conversation has enough of a negative tone that that question will remain unanswered,"
Uh, if we do release him, we better darn well stick him with a conditional release so he can't go to IU. Better yet, perhaps maybe place a call to the NCAA compliance office and ask them to investigate a possible tampering charge.
I'm stunned that Hurley is still playing this out in the media, when he's acknowledged that the request of release didn't come from the student and/or gaurdian. This story is making Hurley out to be 1) clueless to what's required to get a player released from an LOI, and 2) a complete a##.
And it does seem that Hurley is pushing Taylor along this route. Why Taylor hasn't spoken up and why Hurley is the only one to speak for him is beyond me.
Edit: Does it strike anyone else funny that Crean would have actually told a recruit, "I don't expect so-and-so back after this season...". Talk about counting your chickens before they're hatched.
Something smells fishy with this guy Hurley.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 16, 2008, 03:06:11 PM
Wasn't there even more of a logjam at guards (i.e. the current bunch, plus Christopherson plus N. Williams) when TT signed? The idea that DJ's return makes the difference just doesn't hold, because even with that there are fewer guards now than were expected in the fall.
The more this guy speaks, the less credible he becomes.
Here is what I don't get....and Hurley is looking like a bigger idiot with every passing day
-TT himself said he had a better relationship with Buzz than Crean....in fact I believe he said he only met Crean once. Hurley says Crean was the reason TT was going to MU. These statements seem to directly counter each other.
-Cottingham despite all his supposed faults is a Lawyer first, I'm sure he follows both the letter of the law and an ethical code. If it were proper to release Taylor at this time I would imagine he would. Sounds like Taylor and his family either don't know the rules or perhaps know the rules and aren't as set on giving up his LOI as Hurley indicates.
-Even if DJ left next year we would have more have a much bigger logjam at guard with Crean than we have now. With Crean(assuming DJ was leaving) we would have had 6 without TT. With Buzz as it stands now we have 5 without TT.
-Why is this being conducted through the press? I don't understand why Hurley needs to attack MU in this manner, especially when he has previously indicated that MU isn't out of running to land TT. Isn't that cutting off your nose to spit your face???
Nothing makes sense about all this and I'm really starting to dislike/get suspicious about Hurley.
What does Tayshawn want to do?
It's St Anthony's...It's St Anthony's...
Quote from: mviale on April 16, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
What does Tayshawn want to do?
Best post yet... one quote from the kid saying he wants out ends this whole process!
Quote from: mviale on April 16, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
What does Tayshawn want to do?
Whatever Bob Hurley tells him to do. At least that's what Bob seems to believe.
Quote from: marqptm on April 16, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
Agreed. Sounds like it is getting caught up on a technicality. Marquette is looking like the bad guy in all of this and the kid should have a chance to pursue other options. I hope that it is just the technicality and MU isn't playing hardball. The kid wanted to play for TC and TC is now gone. I don't think he should be "forced" to play for MU. I wouldn't stand for it at any other school and I won't stand for it at Marquette. I think we're better than that and it is just this technicality.
I say jettison this kid and move on. The Juco teammate of Fulce's smells a lot better
Does Hurley really think MU has it out for TT?
Mr. Hurley, look how the situation with NW was handled. Follow the sam procedures, and your kid will also be released.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 16, 2008, 03:29:01 PM
Quote from: marqptm on April 16, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
Agreed. Sounds like it is getting caught up on a technicality. Marquette is looking like the bad guy in all of this and the kid should have a chance to pursue other options. I hope that it is just the technicality and MU isn't playing hardball. The kid wanted to play for TC and TC is now gone. I don't think he should be "forced" to play for MU. I wouldn't stand for it at any other school and I won't stand for it at Marquette. I think we're better than that and it is just this technicality.
I think HURLEY wanted Taylor to play for TC - didn't Hurley contact TC to say he might have a gaurd that fit well in the Marquette's offense?
Also, this just reaffirms in my mind that Hurley is pulling the strings on this:
Quote from: Rosiak Article
With all the things going on we haven't eliminated Marquette, but we would like him to use his two other visits as we're going through this process, just to have a little more information for him."
if Taylor wanted to use the rest of his Official Visits, why didn't Hurley just say "he". Isn't it Taylor's decision to make afterall?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 16, 2008, 03:29:01 PM
Quote from: marqptm on April 16, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Hurley, get off the phone with the press and get the guardians sigs. NOT THAT HARD
The kid wanted to play for TC and TC is now gone. I don't think he should be "forced" to play for MU. I wouldn't stand for it at any other school and I won't stand for it at Marquette. I think we're better than that and it is just this technicality.
As of right now, the only thing we've heard from Taylor is that Buzz was the coach that recruited him and that he likes Buzz. Everything else we've heard was from Hurley. Now you hope Hurley is representing the kid with Taylor's best intentions in mind but what he's saying doesn't add up. As I posted earlier... this will all end as soon as Taylor comes out and says he wants out of his NLI. Until that time, folks here will speculate about Hurley's intentions.
For all we know TT wants to come Marquette & play. The guardian ought to step in and put Hurley in his place.
Quote from: NCMUFan on April 16, 2008, 03:37:27 PM
For all we know TT wants to come Marquette & play. The guardian ought to step in and put Hurley in his place.
That would be the best for EVERYONE involved. And Hurley's making himself out as a broker/agent and not a high school basketball coach.
Quote from: MUCam on April 16, 2008, 02:45:22 PM
What a classless a** clown. I know we have a moratorium on name calling with respect to Hurley, but enough is enough.
unnatural carnal knowledge Hurley. He's being a complete pretty boy.
To be honest, I don't know where the moratorium came from. I'll ask Hilltopper. IMO, Hurley deserves to be criticized here.
Prior to this, I've felt that Hurley was just watching out for TT and haven't faulted Hurley for that. But now Hurley is pushing it too far. He's crying about MU even though the release hasn't been sent in and only a few days after he met with Buzz. Its not such a delay that Hurley should be bashing MU.
And, it sure seems as though Hurley wants TT to get out of the LOI b/c DJ is coming back. The fact that Crean is gone is just a way to get of his committment.
Great job by Rosiak.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on April 16, 2008, 03:46:17 PM
Great job by Rosiak.
Great point... props to Rosiak on the interview and article!
Quote from: MUCam on April 16, 2008, 02:45:22 PM
This Hurley guy is a class A jerk, plain and simple. Even if he has the kid's best interests in mind, he certainly is doing just about everything to sabotoge those interests.
His statements, as well as those of Taylor's, have changed from day to day and from week to week, as he attempts to further his agenda at MU's expense.
What a classless a** clown. I know we have a moratorium on name calling with respect to Hurley, but enough is enough.
Finally, I say that this guy's weak comparison to the St. Anthony's case is laughable and doesn't hold water. What a joke.
+1. If Taylor really wants to go on a field trip to Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech he'd get his guardian to sign the permission slip to release him. Last I checked Hurleyhaus isn't his legal guardian but sure enjoys talking to the media.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 16, 2008, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: MUCam on April 16, 2008, 02:45:22 PM
What a classless a** clown. I know we have a moratorium on name calling with respect to Hurley, but enough is enough.
frack Hurley. He's being a complete pretty boy.
To be honest, I don't know where the moratorium came from. I'll ask Hilltopper. IMO, Hurley deserves to be criticized here.
Dude...I still can't figure out what "pretty boy" is.
But yes, Hurley definitely is one...whatever it is. As y'all said, great work by Rosiak.
Hurley does have a point though, with Williams, I think. Anyone care to drop knowledge?
Quote from: ToddRosiakSays on April 16, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
"if this was St. Anthony's High School, and a young man's family came to me and told me that they were unhappy and would I sign our state waiver so that they would be eligible to play someplace else, if I'd done the best I could coaching and it wasn't working, I would sign it and they'd be gone and I'd wish them the best of luck."
Maybe that's the problem you prick. The young man's family hasn't come to MU and asked for a release. His HS coach has. Get a f'in clue.
Ahh...I know Hurley won't read this. But I feel better now ;D
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 16, 2008, 03:51:36 PM
Dude...I still can't figure out what "pretty boy" is.
LOL. Here's a clue -- it starts with ass and ends with hole.
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 16, 2008, 03:51:36 PM
Hurley does have a point though, with Williams, I think. Anyone care to drop knowledge?
You mean with Nick Williams? Or what point are you talking about?
I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is content to let Hurley handle the situation - I can't imagine having to deal with all of this at the end of the school year after having a school all lined up and committed.
However, asking the signees of the LOI request to be released is pretty reasonable as red tape goes, and I can't understand Hurley characterizing it as Taylor being "held hostage". Getting upset and taking the fight to the media doesn't help Taylor any more than it does MU - whether it benefits Hurley is a different question.
edit: would =/= wouldn't
I wish Buzz could talk to TT & the Guardian without Hurley anywhere near just to hear in their own words how they feel.
James is back. But Williams is out. So, what's the big deal?
As much as I defended Hurley for standing up for the kids' best interest - and I think he still is - he's really coming off as a pompous arse in this. I didn't realize the situation with Taylor and his guardian having to request the release.
We need to hear less of Hurley and more from his player and guardian and go from there.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 16, 2008, 03:54:32 PM
You mean with Nick Williams? Or what point are you talking about?
Ohhh...I'm slow, haha.
And yes, Nick Williams. Hurley was talking about how MU released Nick (sorry, forgot we have like 3 Williams' to think about in relation to MU) from his LOI...was it because maybe Nick's family went ahead and asked, unlike Coach Pretty Boy?
Quote from: NCMUFan on April 16, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
I wish Buzz could talk to TT & the Guardian without Hurley anywhere near just to hear in their own words how they feel.
Maybe that's the vibe Buzz got from Taylor when they had their one-on-one meeting. Buzz may have heard some things that make him feel like MU is still an option for Taylor and he's told admin to play hardball a bit with Hurley until Taylor truly makes up his mind.
Maybe Hurley doesn't have enough coaching experience to know how to fill out this form:
http://www.national-letter.org/documents/ReleaseRequest.pdf
Either that, or pehaps he doesn't quite understand the difference between "HS coach" and "Parent or Legal Guardian."
What I don't get is why St. Anthony's AD feels that he can misrepresent himself as the Parernt or Legal Guardian if he's not. According to the article, both MU and St. Anthony's said the request came from the AD.
This form is pretty clear--it requres the signature of both the student and the parent or legal guardian. The HS has nothing to do with the request.
Bob Hurley takes a few more swings at MUWritten by: NY Warrior.....even though NCAA regulations prohibit Marquette from granting a release to Tyshawn Taylor just because his high school coach says he wants one.
Oustanding work by Todd Rosiak......this is quite a soap opera (http://blogs.jsonline.com/muhoops/archive/2008/04/16/update-on-taylor-mu.aspx).
Quote"It's a stall, there's no doubt about it," he said. "If they say otherwise...if this was St. Anthony's High School, and a young man's family came to me and told me that they were unhappy and would I sign our state waiver so that they would be eligible to play someplace else, if I'd done the best I could coaching and it wasn't working, I would sign it and they'd be gone and I'd wish them the best of luck.
Of course, if the "young man's family" made the request we would not have to put up with a grandstanding high school coach. Thankfully, MU's Mike Broeker correctly addresses the crux of the matter:
Quote"Our obligation is to the student-athlete," said deputy athletic director Mike Broeker. "And up to this point, neither Tyshawn nor his family has informed us of his decision."
Talk about it here at MUScoop (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8730.msg72083#msg72083).
TREVOR MBAKWE UPDATE
Charley Waters from TwinCities.com reports that Trevor Mbakwe will stay at Marquette (http://www.twincities.com/ci_8939977?source=most_viewed):
QuoteFormer St. Bernard's and Henry Sibley basketball star Trevor Mbakwe, who considered transferring from Marquette after his freshman season this year, has decided to remain with the team. The Gophers were expected to pursue the 6-foot-8 forward if he had made himself available.
There's been no official confirmation from MU regarding Mbakwe.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2008/04/bob-hurley-takes-few-more-swings-at-mu.html
I think Hurley is making a statement about the NLI. I think this is something that has bothered him for a long time and he has been vocal about it, but no one cared. Now he has a top 100 recruit and a top conference school in this situation and he is milking it until he raises some eyebrows that he could not get to review the situation without Taylor or Marquette in the picture.
The current Marquette athletic department made it clear that it is willing to unconditionally release players, see Nick Williams, if asked with the proper authorization. I am 100% sure that Taylor gets released immediately if his guardians request it. Hurley is using the soap box as long as it is sitting outside his house, nothing more to the situation.
Quote from: dsfire on April 16, 2008, 03:57:50 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is content to let Hurley handle the situation - I can't imagine having to deal with all of this at the end of the school year after having a school all lined up and committed.
However, asking the signees of the LOI request to be released is pretty reasonable as red tape goes, and I can't understand Hurley characterizing it as Taylor being "held hostage". Getting upset and taking the fight to the media doesn't help Taylor any more than it does MU - whether it benefits Hurley is a different question.
edit: would =/= wouldn't
that's the point. He can't let Hurley handle the whole situation. The student and parents/guardians must sign the release form. Hurley has nothing to do with filling out the form.
Quote from: groove on April 16, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
that's the point. He can't let Hurley handle the whole situation. The student and parents/guardians must sign the release form. Hurley has nothing to do with filling out the form.
I agree with that; I'm just saying that lack of public comment by Taylor probably doesn't mean much.
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 16, 2008, 04:08:56 PM
And yes, Nick Williams. Hurley was talking about how MU released Nick (sorry, forgot we have like 3 Williams' to think about in relation to MU) from his LOI...was it because maybe Nick's family went ahead and asked, unlike Coach Pretty Boy?
Yeah, I think Nick Williams and Scott Christopherson filed the correct forms with all the right signature (after talking with Buzz) and they were released immediately. Taylor has not.
Hurley is making it sound like Taylor is our best recruit and we're just trying to hang onto him. If we were trying to hold our best recruit "hostage", then we would have held onto Nick Williams and let Taylor go.
Now, perhaps Marquette is not gone back and told Taylor/Hurley that the form was filled out incorrectly (which would slow down the process). But with a coach that has as much experience as Hurley, I would expect that he knows EXACTLY who needs to sign the request.
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 16, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on April 16, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
I wish Buzz could talk to TT & the Guardian without Hurley anywhere near just to hear in their own words how they feel.
Maybe that's the vibe Buzz got from Taylor when they had their one-on-one meeting. Buzz may have heard some things that make him feel like MU is still an option for Taylor and he's told admin to play hardball a bit with Hurley until Taylor truly makes up his mind.
Or maybe Buzz and MU are not playing hardball but instead Hurley has his own personal agenda and not the interests of TT and his family.
Sounds real simple to me, TT wants out, he and his guardian sign and fax and we release him with or without conditions. This is definitely looking more and more like Hurley deciding on the kids future and not the kid deciding on his future.
Also has TT gone on record saying that he wants out of the LOI? All I have read is that Hurley has stated that TT wants out. Interesting, don't you think?
Is it just me or does it feel like we are a professional team dealing with a player's agent?
Maybe Hurley should change professions.
Quote from: dsfire on April 16, 2008, 04:36:51 PM
Quote from: groove on April 16, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
that's the point. He can't let Hurley handle the whole situation. The student and parents/guardians must sign the release form. Hurley has nothing to do with filling out the form.
I agree with that; I'm just saying that lack of public comment by Taylor probably doesn't mean much.
yeah, you may be right.
This smells of coordination between Tom Crean and Bob Hurley to steer Tyshawn to Indiana by media pressure rather than simply having TT and the legal guardian ( who may not be sure what they actually want to do and are understandably caught off guard by Crean's departure) sign the proper paperwork asking for the release from the LOI.
MU, in turn, has faxed over a release form to St. Anthony's, and all that remains to make the release official at this point is the signature of both Taylor and Taylor's mother.
What part of MOTHER AND TAYLOR's SIGNATURE does Hurley not get?!?
awesome work by Rosiak today
What schools does Taylor want to visit? Florida, he sits behind Jai Lucas for three years. Kansas, sits behind Mario Chalmers. Va. Tech., they have no senior guards.
IMO - MU should also come out state that should Taylor request to be released from his LOI and should the request be granted by MU, MU will also revoke its offer of a scholarship to him.
In other words, if you back out on your word, we're no longer interested in you. Make sure this is what you want before you go out and gamble. Here ya go, ball is in your court (pun intended).
i'm with you spiral. MU is NOT a fall-back option no matter how talented you are!
Quote:
Hurley also said that while Crean was still at MU Crean indicated to both he and Taylor that he didn't expect Dominic James to return next season. James has since said he is returning, however, and it appears likely that Jerel McNeal will also be back. With Wesley Matthews and David Cubillan also returning, Hurley believes Taylor would be "the odd man out."
Looks like the paperwork is finally coming, but Mr. Hurley's comments about DJ are interesting considering that they asked for a release BEFORE DJ announced he was coming back. Sounds like TC's floating timeline.
Interesting that the Texan Rangers want a Jesuit education, but the St. Anthony Meat Market Friars want their kids to attend Pimp & Ho U. Fr. Wild should call the Pope!
Quote from: Marquette84 on April 16, 2008, 04:23:17 PM
Maybe Hurley doesn't have enough coaching experience to know how to fill out this form:
http://www.national-letter.org/documents/ReleaseRequest.pdf
Either that, or pehaps he doesn't quite understand the difference between "HS coach" and "Parent or Legal Guardian."
What I don't get is why St. Anthony's AD feels that he can misrepresent himself as the Parernt or Legal Guardian if he's not. According to the article, both MU and St. Anthony's said the request came from the AD.
This form is pretty clear--it requres the signature of both the student and the parent or legal guardian. The HS has nothing to do with the request.
MU also has a liability here. Suppose they let TT out of his LOI based on a letter fromt he St. Anthony's AD? Then MU fills his spot with someone else (Butler?). Then TT says he really wants to come to MU after all (maybe the other schools pass on him) and he says he or his Guardians never signed anything. MU would be screwed.
MU has to protect itself and follow the rules. Why is it so hard for Hurley to get the guardians and TT (since he is 18) to sign a release request?
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MU also has a liability here. Suppose they let TT out of his LOI based on a letter fromt he St. Anthony's AD? Then MU fills his spot with someone else (Butler?). Then TT says he really wants to come to MU after all (maybe the other schools pass on him) and he says he or his Guardians never signed anything. MU would be screwed.
MU has to protect itself and follow the rules. Why is it so hard for Hurley to get the guardians and TT (since he is 18) to sign a release request?
Great point