If OSU gets Self, then that starts one domino. Word is that Pickens will go after Gillespie if they don't get Self. Either way, seems as if dominoes will start again, which leads me to believe Crean would have been gone regardless this year with so many of these types of jobs opening up.
OSU is borderline retarded for giving Self that much money. I doubt he gets back to the FF with them if he jets. He'll never have it better than at Kansas right now.
For all it's storied past, you gotta chuckle at the fact that if SELF takes the OSU job, Kansas once again serves as a stepping stone for another National Championship Coach.
Yeah, maybe their fanbase will have an equally hysterical, pathetic, self-loathing, and DEEPLY introspective debate about whether they're a MID-MAJOR, like this board.
Quote from: lab_warrior on April 08, 2008, 01:33:35 PM
Yeah, maybe their fanbase will have an equally hysterical, pathetic, self-loathing, and DEEPLY introspective debate about whether they're a MID-MAJOR, like this board.
Nice try, but they're coming off of a national championship and they'll get whoever they damn well please if the Self Deal goes down. They would never even consider someone with Buzz's resume.
Of course they would never even consider someone with Buzz's resume
THEY AINT MARQUETTE
THEY ARE KANSAS
HELLO?????
MCFLY?????
Quote from: pittisit98 on April 08, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
Of course they would never even consider someone with Buzz's resume
THEY AINT MARQUETTE
THEY ARE KANSAS
HELLO?????
MCFLY?????
I get it.
But why is OSU conducting their search better than us? OSU is NOT, I repeat NOT, a better program than MU. They might be willing to pay a ton, but we were willing to pay top 15 money. And we settled in five days. It just comes across as a bit desperate and weak, wouldn't you agree?
They AREN'T conducting a BETTER search.
They are trying to lure an ALUM back home, ONE GUY,and pulling out all the stops to land him. If they don't land him, they'll have already made such a big splash with this offer that it will receive national attention until they land a coach.
The fact he won a National Championship last nite just makes it an even bigger story than it really is. That in itself means that OSU has to make an offer that Kansas can only hope to come close to.
While I'm a firm believer that the BIG EAST is the premier conference in college basketball, there are a lot of people who would rather coach in the BIG 12 or elsewhere. In the BIG EAST, you're competing with 15 other schools for attention. 15 other QUALITY schools, not a dog amongst them. In the big 12, you've only gotta compete with 5 or 6 schools and 5 or 6 dogs. Easier to get kids to enroll in the southwest than up on some frozen tundra.
OSU's coaching search = waiting for the tournament to end, offering Bill Self the keys to Fort Knox.
And it would be mighty presumptive to think MU is willing to pay a top 15 salary. They could afford it for Crean because certain benefactors thought highly of him. There's no guarantee they would feel the same about <insert available and interested coach's name here>.
That's because MU would not offering a $6 mil signing bonus. T. Boone Pickens!
There's no guarantee they would feel the same about <insert available and interested coach's name here>.
Nor should they.....
If I was a rich alum giving tons to the University, I would really have to wonder why. We are in the top tier of the Big East, have an unbelievable practice facility, have qualified for the NCAA for several years in a row, graduate our players, etc.... We are a first class operation.
So to not run a first class coaching search, well, it tells me the administration is either lazy or incompetent or they do not think very highly of Marquette.
Under any of those three conclusions, I would wonder why on earth am I giving my money to an organization that believes those things.
OSU IS NOT SEARCHING!! THEY ARE OFFERING A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT NO ONE ON EARTH WOULD TURN DOWN! THAT'S NOT A SEARCH.
Quote from: SERocks on April 08, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
There's no guarantee they would feel the same about <insert available and interested coach's name here>.
Nor should they.....
If I was a rich alum giving tons to the University, I would really have to wonder why. We are in the top tier of the Big East, have an unbelievable practice facility, have qualified for the NCAA for several years in a row, graduate our players, etc.... We are a first class operation.
So to not run a first class coaching search, well, it tells me the administration is either lazy or incompetent or they do not think very highly of Marquette.
Under any of those three conclusions, I would wonder why on earth am I giving my money to an organization that believes those things.
Since you're an apparent insider, please tell us everything you know about the coaching search.
Who did the administration contact? What was their response? Who was interviewed? Who declined to be interviewed? How much money was Cottingham allowed to offer? Who was involved in the search process.
I imagine you'd have to know the answers to these questions since you are comfortable saying the search was conducted in a lazy and incompetent manner.
EXACTLY
Do you think the terms of their offer will be the same if Bill Self turns it down? Do you think their second or third choice will get that $6 mil signing bonus?
NOT!!!
Quote from: Pakuni on April 08, 2008, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: SERocks on April 08, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
There's no guarantee they would feel the same about <insert available and interested coach's name here>.
Nor should they.....
If I was a rich alum giving tons to the University, I would really have to wonder why. We are in the top tier of the Big East, have an unbelievable practice facility, have qualified for the NCAA for several years in a row, graduate our players, etc.... We are a first class operation.
So to not run a first class coaching search, well, it tells me the administration is either lazy or incompetent or they do not think very highly of Marquette.
Under any of those three conclusions, I would wonder why on earth am I giving my money to an organization that believes those things.
Since you're an apparent insider, please tell us everything you know about the coaching search.
Who did the administration contact? What was their response? Who was interviewed? Who declined to be interviewed? How much money was Cottingham allowed to offer? Who was involved in the search process.
I imagine you'd have to know the answers to these questions since you are comfortable saying the search was conducted in a lazy and incompetent manner.
I'm not privy to any "inside" information, other than what's pretty much public knowledge. But I've seen very little difference in the way MU has handled their coaching search and other top tier schools are handling theirs.
First you put out feelers......make contact behind the scenes to judge who may or may not be interested. Then you sit back and watch the ones you inquired about take your interest back to their AD or trustees and use it to get a better deal, simply because you're interested.
One thing to consider regarding the MU job. Take Sean Miller. While many would view the MU job as a step up, consider what he has at XAVIER. He plays in the A10. While not a TOP TIER Conference, it's not a Mid Major either. He's got a solid program, plays in a big city, (no offense, but it's not a frozen tundra), and for the present time being, he's the big dog in his conference. He only has to worry about 2-3 other teams, at most, in regards to getting his NCAA bid, as opposed to playing a brutal IN CONFERENCE Big East Schedule, and then navigate that tournament format.
This isn't football where you need to play in a BCS conference to realistically win a national championship. In basketball, you need to get INTO the tournament for a chance to win it, and there are far easier paths into the tournament than coaching in the BIG EAST.