Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
I just talked with Bobinski about all this Marquette/Indiana/Cal stuff. He said he and Miller were in Bobinski's office last night around 6:45 when a reporter from Milwaukee called. The reporter told Bobinski that word was that Miller was going to be in town (Milwaukee) that night and meeting with Marquette that night or Thursday morning. Bobinski and Miller, sitting three feet from each other on XU's campus, got a good laugh out of that. Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one. As I said in the comments of this post, he believes that big things can be achieved at Xavier and is committed to that goal. Xavier is probably in a more secure position now than it was five years ago in committing itself to making XU a destination type job for someone like Miller.
Anyway, Bobinski said Miller and the XU administration had a "first phase" discussion about Miller's new deal. They'll sit down again after the Final Four.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
I just talked with Bobinski about all this Marquette/Indiana/Cal stuff. He said he and Miller were in Bobinski's office last night around 6:45 when a reporter from Milwaukee called. The reporter told Bobinski that word was that Miller was going to be in town (Milwaukee) that night and meeting with Marquette that night or Thursday morning. Bobinski and Miller, sitting three feet from each other on XU's campus, got a good laugh out of that. Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one. As I said in the comments of this post, he believes that big things can be achieved at Xavier and is committed to that goal. Xavier is probably in a more secure position now than it was five years ago in committing itself to making XU a destination type job for someone like Miller.
Anyway, Bobinski said Miller and the XU administration had a "first phase" discussion about Miller's new deal. They'll sit down again after the Final Four.
More accurately stated...Xavier is an easier way to get from A to B, and he's right. Play in the A-10 or play in the Big East against the big boys every night. Xavier guarantees coach longevity, the Big East could be a coach killa.
No disrespect to Mr. Bobinski or Mr. Miller, but if either truly believes Marquette isn't on par with Xavier, they're idiots.
OK, maybe a little disrespect. But well-deserved disrespect.
Xavier's a good program, no doubt. On par with Marquette? Sure. Better? No way.
No one would blame Miller for staying at Xavier. The school's and program's are very similar.
If anything, Miller is the Tom Crean of Xavier. Xavier fans are going to keep hearing about Miller going to Pitt forever. The time will come when a "top" job comes up and Miller might take it.
I like Xavier's program/school a lot. But from a program standpoint, being the king of the A-10 isn't close to being in the Big East. It's no disrespect, if you can win the A-10 consistently, good things can happen for a guy like Miller. A lot less pressure going to SLU on a Wednesday night in January than it is going to UConn.
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Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
I just talked with Bobinski about all this Marquette/Indiana/Cal stuff. He said he and Miller were in Bobinski's office last night around 6:45 when a reporter from Milwaukee called. The reporter told Bobinski that word was that Miller was going to be in town (Milwaukee) that night and meeting with Marquette that night or Thursday morning. Bobinski and Miller, sitting three feet from each other on XU's campus, got a good laugh out of that. Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one. As I said in the comments of this post, he believes that big things can be achieved at Xavier and is committed to that goal. Xavier is probably in a more secure position now than it was five years ago in committing itself to making XU a destination type job for someone like Miller.
Anyway, Bobinski said Miller and the XU administration had a "first phase" discussion about Miller's new deal. They'll sit down again after the Final Four.
Thanks Troll!!
NCAA success is measured by how you do in the tourney. Xavier has been to the tourney 17 of the past 25 years and the Muskies have been to two elite eights in the last five years. Only a handful of programs can claim that. Also, Xavier has one of the best on-campus arenas in the nation.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
NCAA success is measured by how you do in the tourney. Xavier has been to the tourney 17 of the past 25 years and the Muskies have been to two elite eights in the last five years. Only a handful of programs can claim that. Also, Xavier has one of the best on-campus arenas in the nation.
Pete Gillen
Skip Prosser
Thad Matta
If Xavier were so great, why does it have such a difficult time keeping its coaches?
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
NCAA success is measured by how you do in the tourney. Xavier has been to the tourney 17 of the past 25 years and the Muskies have been to two elite eights in the last five years. Only a handful of programs can claim that. Also, Xavier has one of the best on-campus arenas in the nation.
The Cintas Center is a very nice building but sometimes a team has a desire to move to a facility with a seating capacity over 10,250.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
NCAA success is measured by how you do in the tourney. Xavier has been to the tourney 17 of the past 25 years and the Muskies have been to two elite eights in the last five years.
Hey Troll... when was XU's last Final Four or National Championship?
This just in: Crean not interested in leaving Marquette.
Oh - what? Hmmm he did? Would never have guessed it.
Dont see MU on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3187410
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:35:20 PM
Dont see MU on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3187410
Xavier is on but Michigan is not hmmmmmmm..
Quote from: MUDish on April 03, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Xavier's a good program, no doubt. On par with Marquette? Sure. Better? No way.
No one would blame Miller for staying at Xavier. The school's and program's are very similar.
If anything, Miller is the Tom Crean of Xavier. Xavier fans are going to keep hearing about Miller going to Pitt forever. The time will come when a "top" job comes up and Miller might take it.
I like Xavier's program/school a lot. But from a program standpoint, being the king of the A-10 isn't close to being in the Big East. It's no disrespect, if you can win the A-10 consistently, good things can happen for a guy like Miller. A lot less pressure going to SLU on a Wednesday night in January than it is going to UConn.
X is just as good as we are. Please, if MU and the BE were such a big deal Miller would come here. MU is a good program, but not a destination job at all.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:35:20 PM
Dont see MU on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3187410
Troll... didn't you just say NCAA success is measured by how you do in the Tourney? Now are you implying that success is measured by your Forbes' program valuation? Make up your mind before your Mom puts you to bed for the night.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:35:20 PM
Dont see MU on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3187410
Actually, I'm pretty sure most MU fans are extremely happy the university doesn't rape its season-ticket holders through personal seat licenses.
I didn't see Xavier on this list:
http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/almanac/nba/ncaamcha.html
X is a great A-10 job.......they have the best facility in the league (one of the nation's best) and the best tradition in a manageable conference. It's a cakewalk job right now for Miller; he'd be foolish to leave it for MU IMHO.
Miller is a Pitt guy, Jamie Dixon flirts with a PAC-10 team every year -- he'll leave soon enough, and Miller goes to Pitt. Just like he would if he made MU his next stop along the way.
Quote from: 79Warrior on April 03, 2008, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: MUDish on April 03, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Xavier's a good program, no doubt. On par with Marquette? Sure. Better? No way.
No one would blame Miller for staying at Xavier. The school's and program's are very similar.
If anything, Miller is the Tom Crean of Xavier. Xavier fans are going to keep hearing about Miller going to Pitt forever. The time will come when a "top" job comes up and Miller might take it.
I like Xavier's program/school a lot. But from a program standpoint, being the king of the A-10 isn't close to being in the Big East. It's no disrespect, if you can win the A-10 consistently, good things can happen for a guy like Miller. A lot less pressure going to SLU on a Wednesday night in January than it is going to UConn.
X is just as good as we are. Please, if MU and the BE were such a big deal Miller would come here. MU is a good program, but not a destination job at all.
I'm not sure where the loss in translation came into play. I think I pretty much said exactly what you did. Is MU a better program than Xavier? Yup. Are we UCLA/Carolina? Not for a second. Miller's fine where he is, I don't have a problem with that. Part of me actually hopes he stays at Xavier. I think there's a lot of respect in that.
Street and Smith's top 100 programs ALL-TIME.
#48 Xavier
#33 Marquette
Actually, I like Xavier...wish them the best.
Here's the skinny on Miller.
XU is in their first phase of restructuring Miller's contract. They will be bumping him up to the neighborhood of 1.3-1.5 mil a year.
Also, and this is key, XU has a Nepotism clause in their system that has been holding back the hiring of Miller's brother from OSU. Word is that there will be a Board Exemption to negate the clause to clear the hiring of Miller's brother to an Assistant Coach, as one of XU's Assistants is leaving to head up a mid-major.
So, no Miller.
I have to say that this thread has seemed to spark some sort of MU vs. Xavier animosity, when from my perspective that couldn't be further from the truth. There are actually quite a few similarities between the two schools from being the private school in blue color towns, to constantly trying to get out of State U's shadow.
Sure I'd like to hire Sean Miller, but I can completely appreciate why this job might not be right for him and don't have any problem with Xavier fans wanting to keep their guy.
How do we have a Xavier---Marquette bitch slap fest and not mention Thad Matta?
Didn't he exactly say he would not leave Xavier for Ohio State and then left a week later?
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
I just talked with Bobinski about all this Marquette/Indiana/Cal stuff. He said he and Miller were in Bobinski's office last night around 6:45 when a reporter from Milwaukee called. The reporter told Bobinski that word was that Miller was going to be in town (Milwaukee) that night and meeting with Marquette that night or Thursday morning. Bobinski and Miller, sitting three feet from each other on XU's campus, got a good laugh out of that. Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one. As I said in the comments of this post, he believes that big things can be achieved at Xavier and is committed to that goal. Xavier is probably in a more secure position now than it was five years ago in committing itself to making XU a destination type job for someone like Miller.
Anyway, Bobinski said Miller and the XU administration had a "first phase" discussion about Miller's new deal. They'll sit down again after the Final Four.
So...it's last Sunday night...Tom Crean and Todd Rosiak are sitting in Crean's office chit-chatting...a call comes in from a Bloomington, IN newspaper inquiring about the rumors that Crean may be coming into town to interview, etc. Crean scoffs at the notion and proceeds to have a good laugh with Rosiak at Indiana's expense...
Then comes Tuesday....
Listen - Miller isn't going to say what he really feels with a reporter in the room sitting next to him. It would be a really stupid move.
I'm not saying that Miller is at all interested in MU, but please take this story with a grain of salt.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2008, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
NCAA success is measured by how you do in the tourney. Xavier has been to the tourney 17 of the past 25 years and the Muskies have been to two elite eights in the last five years. Only a handful of programs can claim that. Also, Xavier has one of the best on-campus arenas in the nation.
Pete Gillen
Skip Prosser
Thad Matta
If Xavier were so great, why does it have such a difficult time keeping its coaches?
How about this? How about, why is Sean Miller so hot when everyone and their mother wins at Xavier? Give me a guy who's won where peope haven't . Sean Miller nmay be great but all he's shown so far is that he's on par with Gillen, Prosser and Matta.
Quote from: MUAlum99 on April 03, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
I just talked with Bobinski about all this Marquette/Indiana/Cal stuff. He said he and Miller were in Bobinski's office last night around 6:45 when a reporter from Milwaukee called. The reporter told Bobinski that word was that Miller was going to be in town (Milwaukee) that night and meeting with Marquette that night or Thursday morning. Bobinski and Miller, sitting three feet from each other on XU's campus, got a good laugh out of that. Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one. As I said in the comments of this post, he believes that big things can be achieved at Xavier and is committed to that goal. Xavier is probably in a more secure position now than it was five years ago in committing itself to making XU a destination type job for someone like Miller.
Anyway, Bobinski said Miller and the XU administration had a "first phase" discussion about Miller's new deal. They'll sit down again after the Final Four.
So...it's last Sunday night...Tom Crean and Todd Rosiak are sitting in Crean's office chit-chatting...a call comes in from a Bloomington, IN newspaper inquiring about the rumors that Crean may be coming into town to interview, etc. Crean scoffs at the notion and proceeds to have a good laugh with Rosiak at Indiana's expense...
Then comes Tuesday....
Listen - Miller isn't going to say what he really feels with a reporter in the room sitting next to him. It would be a really stupid move.
I'm not saying that Miller is at all interested in MU, but please take this story with a grain of salt.
I think you read it wrong. The reporter wasn't in the room with Miller, the AD was, and then later talked to the reporter.
Quote from: hoops on April 03, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hate to break it to you MU fans, but Miller is not interested. Xavier beat writer posted this on his blog today. Xavier is a better program.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/ncaa/
Miller doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and Bobinski said with "no disrespect to Marquette" but as far as Miller's concerned, the Marquette job isn't on par with the Xavier one.
So, according to what Bobinski said, Miller is leaving Xavier, he's just holding out for a better offer (taking Pickens money at OSU?). If they thought MU was a step up, am I correct in assuming he would leave? That's what it sounds like he said.
No professional speaks this way about another program. You say that you're happy where you are and then praise the other program to high heaven and say it would be wonderful but no thank you. You never, ever, dis someone else like this. You never know, maybe someday Bobinski might be looking for a job and you never want to burn bridges likes it.
Besides who was the Milwaukee reporter talking to them? (Rosiak?) Where is his account of this chat?
I hate seeing some of the in-fighting between fans of both of our schools. I've had friends and relatives who went to Marquette and only have respect for your school. Being an X fan, I understand what you all are going through. It's not fun, and I do hope you get a coach that will lead you to great success.
I know the quotes by X's AD made some of you angry. There is an article in today's Cincy Enquirer that explains it more. I'm not naive enough to think Sean will never leave. But, I do know he's a very different person than Matta. X is working very hard to keep and reward Sean. Many at X say Sean was instrumental in putting the large buyout in his contract to show loyalty back to the school and I, believe, to help on the recruiting front. The best thing Thad did for X was bring Miller with him as associate head coach from day 1.
I think this article shows the comments were more about the relationship between X and Sean and not meant as a slight to Marquette.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/SPT0102/804060448/-1/CINCI (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/SPT0102/804060448/-1/CINCI)
Best of luck to you all on your seach. I hope it is resolved soon, so you can get excited about the future of your program.
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on April 03, 2008, 09:57:38 PMHow about this? How about, why is Sean Miller so hot when everyone and their mother wins at Xavier? Give me a guy who's won where peope haven't . Sean Miller nmay be great but all he's shown so far is that he's on par with Gillen, Prosser and Matta.
I mean no disrespect (and you will see that I'm not the "Troll" type), but that's pretty good company. My hope (and the hope of everyone in Xavier Nation) is that he sticks around longer than at least the latter 2 (in his defense, Gillen spurned many a job before eventually taking the Providence job).