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Title: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
ESPN just confirmed it for me.  It will be upconverted, but not in true HD
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: The Lens on December 06, 2006, 12:57:31 PM
Does upconverted just mean it will be simulcast on ESPN HD?

At least its an ESPN game...I don't have ESPN2 (thanks Time Warner)...ESPN 2 always looks worse on my HD TV than it does on reg TVs.

Yes I know Chicos I could get DirecTV...do they have HD DVRs and all local (Milw) channels in HD yet?
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 06, 2006, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
ESPN just confirmed it for me.  It will be upconverted, but not in true HD

Thanks for checking.  At least those expecting HD tomorrow won't be completely caught off guard.  I have noticed, that usually the upconversion still looks clearer than SD, so it's not all bad.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on December 06, 2006, 12:57:31 PM
Does upconverted just mean it will be simulcast on ESPN HD?

At least its an ESPN game...I don't have ESPN2 (thanks Time Warner)...ESPN 2 always looks worse on my HD TV than it does on reg TVs.

Yes I know Chicos I could get DirecTV...do they have HD DVRs and all local (Milw) channels in HD yet?

We've had HD DVRS for about 3 years now.  :-*

Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: DoubleMU0609 on December 06, 2006, 01:33:40 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 01:08:46 PM
CBS we do not have due to contractual negotiations still ongoing between CBS and DIRECTV.

Isn't the NCAA tournament on CBS?
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: DoubleMU0609 on December 06, 2006, 01:33:40 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 01:08:46 PM
CBS we do not have due to contractual negotiations still ongoing between CBS and DIRECTV.

Isn't the NCAA tournament on CBS?

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Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: Tigidal on December 06, 2006, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
ESPN just confirmed it for me.  It will be upconverted, but not in true HD

Weak.  Seriously, what does upconverted mean in this context?  Do they just take the 480i signal and process it as 720p without formating 16:9?  ESPN always has crap HD broadcasts anyway... On par with FOX.  CBS sets the bar for broadcasts in my book.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: Tigidal on December 06, 2006, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 06, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
ESPN just confirmed it for me.  It will be upconverted, but not in true HD

Weak.  Seriously, what does upconverted mean in this context?  Do they just take the 480i signal and process it as 720p without formating 16:9?  ESPN always has crap HD broadcasts anyway... On par with FOX.  CBS sets the bar for broadcasts in my book.

The problem with CBS is they have so few cameras and production trucks.  That's why on every Sunday NFL game only about half the games on CBS are in HD while usually all of the FOX games are.

HD still has a long way to go in many respects, but it will get there eventually.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: The Lens on December 06, 2006, 09:36:42 PM
Chicos, i know you have HD DVRs....but are the priced competively, when I last checked (about 8-9 months ago) they were not.

The Local HD is also a big deal for me.  When I checked last the DirecTv clerk said...just get HD bunny ears...not exactly what I wanted to do/  Trust me with ESPN2HD, NFL Net, Sunday Tik & ESPNU, DirecTv is what I would prefer to have but HD is my ultimate decider.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: tower912 on December 07, 2006, 08:56:19 AM
So it will be a slightly blurry a$$-whoopin?
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: TVDirector on December 07, 2006, 09:17:07 AM
wmvs milwaukee public tv has been HD for years.
only true hd studio in the area.
and only fully hd remote truck around.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: TVDirector on December 07, 2006, 09:20:44 AM
what upconverted means is not necessarily 480i to 1080i.
usually means a digital or analog NTSC signal- 525i being routed to a HD upconverter box which makes transcodes it to 480/720/or1080i or similar.

takes less bandwith, costs much less to produce and deliver.

it's essentially the same as 16x9 standard def.

just looks impressive cause its wide vs. 4x3
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 07, 2006, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on December 06, 2006, 09:36:42 PM
Chicos, i know you have HD DVRs....but are the priced competively, when I last checked (about 8-9 months ago) they were not.

The Local HD is also a big deal for me.  When I checked last the DirecTv clerk said...just get HD bunny ears...not exactly what I wanted to do/  Trust me with ESPN2HD, NFL Net, Sunday Tik & ESPNU, DirecTv is what I would prefer to have but HD is my ultimate decider.

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Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: The Lens on December 07, 2006, 08:35:29 PM
You had me at 6 tuners...record 6 shows at once.  Wow.  When you get Weigel figured out, I'm in.
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: TVDirector on December 08, 2006, 10:16:37 AM
don't hold your breath on any weigel does.
they don't spend a dime if its not ripped out of their slimey, cheapo hands!
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: Tigidal on December 08, 2006, 12:03:56 PM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 07, 2006, 09:20:44 AM
what upconverted means is not necessarily 480i to 1080i.
usually means a digital or analog NTSC signal- 525i being routed to a HD upconverter box which makes transcodes it to 480/720/or1080i or similar.

takes less bandwith, costs much less to produce and deliver.

it's essentially the same as 16x9 standard def.

just looks impressive cause its wide vs. 4x3

Great info, thanks.  So if ESPN is truly upconverting as Chico states... it will be in standard def but 16:9 on ESPNHD?  I don't recall seeing any broadcasts like this yet on ESPNHD, so it'd surprise me.  Usually they have only 480i (in 4:3) or 720p (in 16:9).
Title: Re: MU vs uw-madison NOT IN High Definition
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
It definitely will not be in 1080i.  ESPN doesn't broadcast in 1080. Everything is 720p as they believe that is a better format for sports.
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