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Title: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 27, 2026, 01:16:28 PM
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/2093022002143449476?s=46

EDIT: Sorry missed it in the recruiting thread.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 27, 2026, 01:39:55 PM
I think new players deserve their own thread!

https://gomarquette.com/news/2026/8/27/mens-basketball-mubb-signs-transfer-colin-porter
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 27, 2026, 01:42:58 PM
And the scholarship table finally has a 5th year designation
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=scholarship
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 01:56:25 PM
Welcome, not so young man.

If Colin Porter Can-Can stay eligible, I guess Anything Goes.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Badgerhater on August 27, 2026, 02:06:40 PM
Back-up PG with tons of experience who can shoot the three, and won't impact signing players for next season.

I like it.

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Nukem2 on August 27, 2026, 02:08:46 PM
We'll have to wait on the outcomes of the various court cases to see if he'll be on the court when the games start. It just seems fair that these guys in the class that just graduated should be eligible since the four classes before it received the Covid exemption for a 5th season and now all classes after it have the benefit of the 5 in 5 rule. In any event, hopefully, welcome aboard Colin. Looks like a solid pickup to fill that backup PG slot.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MuggsyB on August 27, 2026, 03:12:07 PM
Uhhh....BAM?  Solid pick-up. 
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 27, 2026, 03:20:14 PM
Nice! And Tower is singing old show tunes to celebrate getting a wish fulfilled that he mentioned once or twice -another guard.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 03:29:22 PM
I wonder if this late signing has anything to do with the time MU spent playing a guard short while in Vancouver.   NJ had foul trouble, AS missed a game.  Perhaps the coaches decided they couldn't go through a 30+ game season with only 3 guards.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Nukem2 on August 27, 2026, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 03:29:22 PMI wonder if this late signing has anything to do with the time MU spent playing a guard short while in Vancouver.   NJ had foul trouble, AS missed a game.  Perhaps the coaches decided they couldn't go through a 30+ game season with only 3 guards.
Thats a very likely reality here. Guard depth is an obvious Achilles Heel for MU especially given Walker's shoulder rehab and lack of any D1 experience. All 3 guards are starting and I don't see much ball handling experience or prowess among the wing guys.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 03:54:14 PM
Nice! I agreed with tower that we needed more backcourt depth, and it looks like Shaka added a quality piece here. Looking forward to seeing Colin in a Marquette uni!
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 03:54:14 PMNice! I agreed with tower that we needed more backcourt depth, and it looks like Shaka added a quality piece here. Looking forward to seeing Colin in a Marquette uni!
We are now in the uncomfortable position of rooting for the class of 2026 players we were formerly critical of.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Nukem2 on August 27, 2026, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 03:56:28 PMWe are now in the uncomfortable position of rooting for the class of 2026 players we were formerly critical of.
Sure, on second thought though, as I noted earlier here there is a fairness issue for this group of players given the Covid exemption and the the new 5 in 5 rule. The '26 grads are rather left out of the benefit of that 5th season. Now, if a guy already signed a full NBA contract or a 2-Way contract, that would be an entirely different matter in my mind.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: SchnitzelBoy on August 27, 2026, 04:15:03 PM
It's great that there will be more depth behind both Nigel and Adrien but I have no idea if this will stick.

I think we can make a few conclusions about MU's roster with this signing.

1. I was worried about backcourt depth and shooting. Apparently the staff was as well.
2. Nash Walker's recovery from injury might take a while for him to get on the floor, and he won't be playing as much PG
3. The competition for SF minutes between Nolan, DO, MPIII, and Alex just got more heated because Nolan won't be playing as much PG. I think DO and Alex will slot in more at PF to free up Royce as a small 5.
4. Shaka and staff are confident in Josh Clark being able to step up and play solid minutes, otherwise they would have prioritized grabbing a big.
5. Colton Crowdis is at least 2-3 years away from being able to contribute
 
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on August 27, 2026, 04:15:03 PM5. Colton Crowdis is at least 2-3 years away from being able to contribute
 

Crowdis was brought here as a practice player. I'm willing to bet he never makes any meaningful contributions outside of garbage time.

Which begs the question now that Porter is here - why didn't we use Crowdis spot on a PF/C?
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Tha Hound on August 27, 2026, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on August 27, 2026, 02:06:40 PMBack-up PG with tons of experience who can shoot the three, and won't impact signing players for next season.

I like it.



This is how I feel as well. Only complaint is they haven't made a similar move at the 5.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Jay Bee on August 27, 2026, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on August 27, 2026, 04:15:03 PM4. Shaka and staff are confident in Josh Clark being able to step up and play solid minutes, otherwise they would have prioritized grabbing a big.
5. Colton Crowdis is at least 2-3 years away from being able to contribute

Pass tha dro!!!
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: BCHoopster on August 27, 2026, 04:49:37 PM
Since MU can only have 15 bodies in the future, there will probably a few will be leaving.  Crowdis will be one of them with Hamilton since he might graduate would be the other.  One SF might want to play somewhere as well.  Hard to keep this many kids happy!
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MuggsyB on August 27, 2026, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 27, 2026, 03:34:01 PMThats a very likely reality here. Guard depth is an obvious Achilles Heel for MU especially given Walker's shoulder rehab and lack of any D1 experience. All 3 guards are starting and I don't see much ball handling experience or prowess among the wing guys.


He's also a relatively low turnover guy.  His ability to handle the rock and drain the trifecta could play Gargantuan dividends for MU.  Not to mention alleviate some pressure on Nigel. 
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 04:25:35 PMWhich begs the question now that Porter is here - why didn't we use Crowdis spot on a PF/C?

Because Shaka thinks Hamilton/Clark/Parham will provide adequate play in the 10-15 mpg that MU needs a backup 5?

AND/OR ...

Because there wasn't a decent 5 available who wanted to join our team for the $$$ Shaka had (or was willing to) allocate?

AND/OR ...

Because Shaka is bad at his job?

AND/OR ...

Because no matter what, Scoopers will find reasons to kvetch?

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2026, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 27, 2026, 04:59:53 PMHe's also a relatively low turnover guy.  His ability to handle the rock and drain the trifecta could play Gargantuan dividends for MU.  Not to mention alleviate some pressure on Nigel. 

He reminds me of Diener or Mark Anglavar.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 05:34:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 05:05:03 PMBecause Shaka thinks Hamilton/Clark/Parham will provide adequate play in the 10-15 mpg that MU needs a backup 5?

AND/OR ...

Because there wasn't a decent 5 available who wanted to join our team for the $$$ Shaka had (or was willing to) allocate?

AND/OR ...

Because Shaka is bad at his job?

AND/OR ...

Because no matter what, Scoopers will find reasons to kvetch?



There are 40 plus PFs and Cs in the portal right now who are still not committed anywhere — and they'd come cheaper because, shocker, they're still looking for teams. And yes, several of them would be an upgrade over 18 and Clark.

Larry Olayinka is the obvious example. Ballard literally coached him, he's still uncommitted, and he'd be a far better use of a scholarship than burning it on a practice‑squad body. Pretty sure most of Scoop would agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Jay Bee on August 27, 2026, 05:42:07 PM
Shaka has his guy already.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 27, 2026, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2026, 01:56:25 PMWelcome, not so young man.

If Colin Porter Can-Can stay eligible, I guess Anything Goes.

My sources tell me that he is Porter Moser's nephew. 

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 05:34:12 PMThere are 40 plus PFs and Cs in the portal right now who are still not committed anywhere — and they'd come cheaper because, shocker, they're still looking for teams. And yes, several of them would be an upgrade over 18 and Clark.

Larry Olayinka is the obvious example. Ballard literally coached him, he's still uncommitted, and he'd be a far better use of a scholarship than burning it on a practice‑squad body. Pretty sure most of Scoop would agree with this analysis.

Was Shaka aware that any of those players would even be a possibility when he agreed to bring on Crowdis? I'm not disagreeing with you, just asking the question.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 06:00:20 PMWas Shaka aware that any of those players would even be a possibility when he agreed to bring on Crowdis? I'm not disagreeing with you, just asking the question.

Zero clue what Shaka was thinking — none of us do. But given how the Porter situation played out, leaving that last scholarship open for an actual contributor instead of locking it up with Crowdis would've been the wiser move. Especially now, when portal additions come much cheaper and there are legit upgrades still sitting there.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 27, 2026, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on August 27, 2026, 01:42:58 PMAnd the scholarship table finally has a 5th year designation
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=scholarship

Otule isn't impressed.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: We R Final Four on August 27, 2026, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on August 27, 2026, 04:15:03 PMIt's great that there will be more depth behind both Nigel and Adrien but I have no idea if this will stick.

I think we can make a few conclusions about MU's roster with this signing.

1. I was worried about backcourt depth and shooting. Apparently the staff was as well.
2. Nash Walker's recovery from injury might take a while for him to get on the floor, and he won't be playing as much PG
3. The competition for SF minutes between Nolan, DO, MPIII, and Alex just got more heated because Nolan won't be playing as much PG. I think DO and Alex will slot in more at PF to free up Royce as a small 5.
4. Shaka and staff are confident in Josh Clark being able to step up and play solid minutes, otherwise they would have prioritized grabbing a big.
5. Colton Crowdis is at least 2-3 years away from being able to contribute
 
5. 4-5 years away.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: milwaukee expat on August 27, 2026, 06:39:42 PM
I think this player impressed big time on the culture parts of it that pushed him over the finish line in terms of getting an offer.  They need point guard depth but rather than over thinking how that compares to a big - I wonder if they just weren't really impressed with "this" guy in particular.. 
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Mu8891 on August 27, 2026, 07:46:17 PM
Let's not forget it's probably
50/50 on whether the kid even plays given the constant lawsuits, TROs and injunctions related to players in his situation.  And ... if they list him at
5' 10", we all know he's closer to 5' 8.

That said ... he can probably be a decent backup PG for 8 to 10 minutes a game.

It also says to me that in Canada SS saw that he has a real issue in that spot, as the only other option is Nolan, who is obviously a 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 07:47:04 PM
Disappointed that Shaka would bring in one of these petulant babies who refuse to grow up and move in with their lives like those who came before them.

Anyone who bought RGV gear can have a nice bonfire as now Shaka is willing to blow up what he and the team spent the summer building.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: pbiflyer on August 27, 2026, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 07:47:04 PMDisappointed that Shaka would bring in one of these petulant babies who refuse to grow up and move in with their lives like those who came before them.

I look forward to him bringing that strong liberty U culture.
I think we can all agree with this strong religious culture, as we all followed similar rules.

Total Alcohol Ban: Students cannot drink alcohol or use tobacco products anywhere—on or off campus—regardless of their age.
R-Rated Movie Ban: Watching, possessing, or attending an R-rated movie is strictly prohibited and can result in demerit points and a fine.
No Opposite-Sex Dorm Visits: Male and female students are strictly banned from entering each other's residence halls, quads, or on-campus apartments.
"Lust Busting": Campus security or staff have historically engaged in "lust busting," which involves patrolling parking lots at night and honking at cars with foggy windows to interrupt couples.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: wadesworld on August 27, 2026, 08:56:30 PM
This thread is weird. Especially for one welcoming what will be a very useful piece of the puzzle.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Johnny B on August 27, 2026, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2026, 08:56:30 PMThis thread is weird. Especially for one welcoming what will be a very useful piece of the puzzle.
kid MIGHT get 5 min a game
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: wadesworld on August 27, 2026, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on August 27, 2026, 09:13:07 PMkid MIGHT get 5 min a game

He will get more than that.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 27, 2026, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on August 27, 2026, 07:46:17 PM50/50 on whether the kid even plays

Sigh.  He will play.  Like many I was a little shocked that Shaka was actually willing to use the portal.  He's not dumb...
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: JakeBarnes on August 27, 2026, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on August 27, 2026, 08:06:56 PMI look forward to him bringing that strong liberty U culture.
I think we can all agree with this strong religious culture, as we all followed similar rules.

Total Alcohol Ban: Students cannot drink alcohol or use tobacco products anywhere—on or off campus—regardless of their age.
R-Rated Movie Ban: Watching, possessing, or attending an R-rated movie is strictly prohibited and can result in demerit points and a fine.
No Opposite-Sex Dorm Visits: Male and female students are strictly banned from entering each other's residence halls, quads, or on-campus apartments.
"Lust Busting": Campus security or staff have historically engaged in "lust busting," which involves patrolling parking lots at night and honking at cars with foggy windows to interrupt couples.

90% of they time they were lust busting Becki Falwell. 
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 27, 2026, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 27, 2026, 10:13:47 PM90% of they time they were lust busting Becki Falwell. 

Yep. I laughed my ass off when story broke about then Liberty president Jerry Falwell Jr., his wife Becki and the pool guy.

Since we are only about 45-50 minutes from Liberty, the story stayed front and center for quite a while.  ;D  It eventually blew over, and the sanctimonious bible thumpers were back to being sanctimonious bible thumpers.

Hey, as long as this guy can play well, that's all that matters. Not all of Liberty's athletes buy into their schtick. I would guess that they are never reported for breaking the rules.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 27, 2026, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 27, 2026, 10:27:51 PMsanctimonious bible thumpers were back to being sanctimonious bible thumpers.

As if there were any other choice.  Get a grip, dude.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on August 27, 2026, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on August 27, 2026, 07:46:17 PMLet's not forget it's probably
50/50 on whether the kid even plays given the constant lawsuits, TROs and injunctions related to players in his situation.  And ... if they list him at
5' 10", we all know he's closer to 5' 8.

That said ... he can probably be a decent backup PG for 8 to 10 minutes a game.

It also says to me that in Canada SS saw that he has a real issue in that spot, as the only other option is Nolan, who is obviously a 2 or 3.

Can always count on you to look at the bright side.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 02:45:24 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2026, 09:18:41 PMHe will get more than that.

Yeah I don't understand Johnny's comment. He is clearly being brought here as Nigel's back up and has a bunch of experience. Hopefully he can stick around.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Mu8891 on August 28, 2026, 07:31:40 AM
Vander - So. I take it you agree with everything I said ?

It IS 50:50 that he plays - due to the lawsuits across the country in both federal and state courts. His situation could change in the next week.

It's potentially a decent addition of a back up PG who will play 8 to 10 mins a game.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: noblewarrior on August 28, 2026, 09:22:15 AM
If Porter is able to play, MU will be bringing in a guy who played heavy DI minutes all four years of his career at Liberty... which last year went 17-3 in conference to win CUSA. 

He'll play more minutes than this board is predicting... on ball or off ball, by the time BE play comes around, he'll get more than 10-15 mins a game.

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Shooter McGavin on August 28, 2026, 09:35:11 AM
I think it's a very good thing they have a back up ball handler/point guard now.  But if it took Shaka til Canada to realize he needed a back up ball handler, as someone implied above, that would mean he didn't learn anything from last year (position specific of course). Nigel can't play 40 minutes a game.  And when Nigel came out of the game, the offense went to hell. 

I hope neither is true and Shaka had a plan all along to bring in a backup point guard.

The caveat to this is Nash was his back up and, like others have said, he is not doing well in recovery.  Canada should have had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Hards Alumni on August 28, 2026, 09:36:23 AM
Quote from: Mu8891 on August 28, 2026, 07:31:40 AMVander - So. I take it you agree with everything I said ?

It IS 50:50 that he plays - due to the lawsuits across the country in both federal and state courts. His situation could change in the next week.

It's potentially a decent addition of a back up PG who will play 8 to 10 mins a game.

He's going to be eligible.  The NCAA has bigger fish to fry here.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: SchnitzelBoy on August 28, 2026, 09:46:43 AM
Scoopers already have the pitchforks out for Shaka, so I'm not surprised all they read this strictly as "Shaka misevaluated his squad during the initial portal window." But Nash's longer recovery from surgery probably has a lot to do with this. I remember the 3-point shooting numbers in Canada weren't great so Porter should help.

If you look at Clark's Canada numbers and some of the offseason reports about his development, maybe the need for a backup 5 isn't as great as we assume it is? I'm not sold on it either but it's feasible. Dude is 7'1" so you only have to squint to find some potential.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 28, 2026, 09:36:23 AMHe's going to be eligible.  The NCAA has bigger fish to fry here.


The NCAA was granted an injunction in his case last week so they are fighting it.

Again, this is such as self-inflicted wound. I do wonder at what point will the membership will just tell the organization to concede on 2022 eligibility with everyone signing players.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 28, 2026, 10:04:48 AM
The Canadian trip gave us a peek at this year's team, but considering the low level of competition I do not think it told us much about how our players will do vs. high level teams.

Porter brings 4 years of experience. Let's hope he can play BE level bball. His addition has plenty of potential to help the team this season.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:02:32 AMThe NCAA was granted an injunction in his case last week so they are fighting it.

Again, this is such as self-inflicted wound. I do wonder at what point will the membership will just tell the organization to concede on 2022 eligibility with everyone signing players.

Why would they? The NCAA is 3-0 with appeals to these BS lawsuits.

Hey 2022s, did you know Enterprise Rent-A-Car recruits thousands of college graduates annually and actively targets former student-athletes for entry-level management roles because of their competitive drive, discipline, and leadership skills? It's time for you to be one of the 99% of student-athletes who go pro in professions other than sports.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 10:08:22 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:06:34 AMWhy would they? The NCAA is 3-0 with appeals to these BS lawsuits.

Hey 2022s, did you know Enterprise Rent-A-Car recruits thousands of college graduates annually and actively targets former student-athletes for entry-level management roles because of their competitive drive, discipline, and leadership skills? It's time for you to be one of the 99% of student-athletes who go pro in professions other than sports.

NCAA reaps what they sow
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: tower912 on August 28, 2026, 10:08:42 AM
Shaka reportedly went after a second guard early in the process.  IMO, due to the specific targeted nature of how MU hit the portal this time, they did not have an instant plan B.
The venn diagram... PG skills.  Knows that NJ will likely get the lion's share of minutes.  Fits the culture.  One year, as Shaka continues to recruit HS players.  Willing to play for the money slot allocated.  Now.....go.
  CP is small, but experienced.  He thought his eligibility was up.  At 5'10, he knows he doesn't have a future in the league. 
  There is no way he came to MU to play off the ball.  Can't have 2 tiny guards in the game at the same time in a big guards league.  What he can do is mentor, play his 10 minutes, go in during the last two minutes when MU is trying to hold the lead.  Take his money, make contacts beyond Liberty.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:16:08 AM
Quote from: tower912 on August 28, 2026, 10:08:42 AMShaka reportedly went after a second guard early in the process.  IMO, due to the specific targeted nature of how MU hit the portal this time, they did not have an instant plan B.

Which was a mis-step.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:18:32 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:06:34 AMWhy would they? The NCAA is 3-0 with appeals to these BS lawsuits.

Hey 2022s, did you know Enterprise Rent-A-Car recruits thousands of college graduates annually and actively targets former student-athletes for entry-level management roles because of their competitive drive, discipline, and leadership skills? It's time for you to be one of the 99% of student-athletes who go pro in professions other than sports.

Imagine being the guy cheering on the NCAA. And harming #mubb in the process.


Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 10:08:22 AMNCAA reaps what they sow

Yep. This was a very predictable problem. There is nothing B.S. about these lawsuits too. This class doesn't benefit in a manner the class before and the class after does. Clearly inequitable.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:23:21 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:18:32 AMImagine being the guy cheering on the NCAA. And harming #mubb in the process.


Yep. This was a very predictable problem. There is nothing B.S. about these lawsuits too. This class doesn't benefit in a manner the class before and the class after does. Clearly inequitable.

How did 2021 high school grads benefit? Do they get an additional year too?

And I don't care that it "harms" MU. MU had a choice to bring in one of these guys who refuse to grow up, when many schools are refusing to do so.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:23:21 AMHow did 2021 high school grads benefit? Do they get an additional year too?

And I don't care that it "harms" MU. MU had a choice to bring in one of these guys who refuse to grow up, when many schools are refusing to do so.

Imagine getting mad at a 22-23 year old who wants to continue playing college basketball. "GO NCAA!!!!"
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: wadesworld on August 28, 2026, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 10:23:21 AMHow did 2021 high school grads benefit? Do they get an additional year too?

And I don't care that it "harms" MU. MU had a choice to bring in one of these guys who refuse to grow up, when many schools are refusing to do so.

Yes.  College athletes.  The only humans in the world who spend more than 4 years on a college campus.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on August 28, 2026, 10:32:09 AMYes.  College athletes.  The only humans in the world who spend more than 4 years on a college campus.


Nope. Those people "refuse to grow up." God forbid anyone returns to school as an adult...
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on August 28, 2026, 10:42:03 AM
Unsolicited nickname suggestions

CP5
CP5th
CP5'10🙁
CP5'8😡
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 28, 2026, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:18:32 AMImagine being the guy cheering on the NCAA. And harming #mubb in the process.

I agree about the NCAAs missteps but I wouldn't say blocking 2022s harms #mubb. Several of Marquette's opponents next year are bringing in a lot better 2022s than Colin Porter (no offense to Colin, there's just a lot of really good 2022s trying to come back). I think #mubb would likely be in a better position if all 2022s were blocked.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:52:12 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 28, 2026, 10:49:39 AMI agree about the NCAAs missteps but I wouldn't say blocking 2022s harms #mubb. Several of Marquette's opponents next year are bringing in a lot better 2022s than Colin Porter (no offense to Colin, there's just a lot of really good 2022s trying to come back). I think #mubb would likely be in a better position if all 2022s were blocked.

Fair point.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: SchnitzelBoy on August 28, 2026, 11:19:18 AM
This added depth could be very useful in any case but I wonder if this addition is more of a floor-raiser or ceiling-raiser.

If he can give us 8-10 minutes quality a night, then that does a hell of a lot to help Nigel stay fresh during games so he can utilize his explosive speed. It also allows Nigel to play closer to 25 minutes during buy games or when (I know it's hard to fathom and I'm only confident this will happen a few times) MU is blowing a DePaul, Seton Hall or Butler out of the Fiserv Forum. This will also help preserve Adrien Stevens because Nolan will be able to spend ample time at SG.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MU82 on August 28, 2026, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: MUbiz on August 27, 2026, 06:05:33 PMZero clue what Shaka was thinking — none of us do. But given how the Porter situation played out, leaving that last scholarship open for an actual contributor instead of locking it up with Crowdis would've been the wiser move. Especially now, when portal additions come much cheaper and there are legit upgrades still sitting there.

Thanks for your response. I'm still not sure that A + B = C in this case, but I appreciate the conversation.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Badgerhater on August 28, 2026, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on August 28, 2026, 11:19:18 AMThis added depth could be very useful in any case but I wonder if this addition is more of a floor-raiser or ceiling-raiser.

If he can give us 8-10 minutes quality a night, then that does a hell of a lot to help Nigel stay fresh during games so he can utilize his explosive speed. It also allows Nigel to play closer to 25 minutes during buy games or when (I know it's hard to fathom and I'm only confident this will happen a few times) MU is blowing a DePaul, Seton Hall or Butler out of the Fiserv Forum. This will also help preserve Adrien Stevens because Nolan will be able to spend ample time at SG.


Raising the floor is incredibly important.  Keeps players fresh and provides flexibility for different styles of play.

Remember when Travis Diener went down and there was no backup?

Remember when Markus Howard got banged up but had to keep playing 38 min a game?

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 12:10:37 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 10:25:54 AMImagine getting mad at a 22-23 year old who wants to continue playing college basketball. "GO NCAA!!!!"


It's getting upset at players who knew the rules and now want a special exception just for them. If they want to continue playing basketball, get an agent and go play abroad. And if they're not good enough to do that, get a job; don't take away a roster spot from a kid who has done all of the right things (Crowdis) to earn a spot and now sees these petulant wankers say, "f off, I want more." If you read these lawsuits, they claim playing college basketball is a right.

Maybe the talk about Shaka being on the hot seat after last season was real if he's going this route.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 12:10:37 PMIt's getting upset at players who knew the rules and now want a special exception just for them. If they want to continue playing basketball, get an agent and go play abroad. And if they're not good enough to do that, get a job; don't take away a roster spot from a kid who has done all of the right things (Crowdis) to earn a spot and now sees these petulant wankers say, "f off, I want more." If you read these lawsuits, they claim playing college basketball is a right.

Maybe the talk about Shaka being on the hot seat after last season was real if he's going this route.

GO NCAA!!! GO BUREAUCRACY!

SCREW THE PLAYERS! SCREW THE PLAYERS! SCREW THE PLAYERS!

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 07:47:04 PMDisappointed that Shaka would bring in one of these petulant babies who refuse to grow up and move in with their lives like those who came before them.

Anyone who bought RGV gear can have a nice bonfire as now Shaka is willing to blow up what he and the team spent the summer building.

Just say conservatives, Billy. No need to name call.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 02:52:22 PM
I for one am excited to cheer for the Big East Jan 6th player of the year
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 28, 2026, 02:56:49 PM
Too much worrying here. We'll be fine. Unless some of the players get together and write a letter to Shaka.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: NCMUFan on August 28, 2026, 03:49:52 PM
This guy should be fun to watch with Nigel.  Looks like Rowsey and Kolek in a blender.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Hards Alumni on August 28, 2026, 04:13:19 PM
uh no
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: mileskishnish72 on August 28, 2026, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 02:52:22 PMI for one am excited to cheer for the Big East Jan 6th player of the year
Mind-boggling.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 07:47:34 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 02:50:24 PMJust say conservatives, Billy. No need to name call.

There's nothing political about my position on these lawsuits and kids who refuse to grow up. I don't know the affiliation of these weasel lawyers like Heitner or the Texas Trial Group, nor do I care. I just know you have lawyers who are trying to blow up college sports and are saying it's a constitutional right to play college sports. Yes seriously.

They had their turn now it's time for the next group l, as it's been for over 100 years.

https://x.com/slmandel/status/2093439795854979532
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MU82 on August 28, 2026, 08:10:52 PM
Things change.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Jay Bee on August 28, 2026, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 28, 2026, 08:10:52 PMThings change.

Yes. Like the definition of a "woman".
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 28, 2026, 08:18:13 PMYes. Like the definition of a "woman".

Oh, we know what you want to be.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: tower912 on August 28, 2026, 08:38:05 PM
Cowardice is forever.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: brewcity77 on August 28, 2026, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 12:10:37 PMIt's getting upset at players who knew the rules and now want a special exception just for them. If they want to continue playing basketball, get an agent and go play abroad. And if they're not good enough to do that, get a job; don't take away a roster spot from a kid who has done all of the right things (Crowdis) to earn a spot and now sees these petulant wankers say, "f off, I want more." If you read these lawsuits, they claim playing college basketball is a right.

Maybe the talk about Shaka being on the hot seat after last season was real if he's going this route.

It's not an exception just for them. It's getting the same exception that literally everyone else they played with last year and everyone in the future will get. The 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 players all get that exception. When 8 classes in a 10 year span get the same "exception" and everyone after them does too, it's not an exception.

5 years has been the norm for a decade, we just didn't realize it until 2021. This is some real old man yells at clouds energy from you.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MurphysTillClose on August 28, 2026, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 07:47:04 PMDisappointed that Shaka would bring in one of these petulant babies who refuse to grow up and move in with their lives like those who came before them.

Anyone who bought RGV gear can have a nice bonfire as now Shaka is willing to blow up what he and the team spent the summer building.

Shoutout the ole ball coach for the #GROWTH and bringing in transfers to help the squad. Cheers to next year's roster having even more #ELIGIBLE
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: wadesworld on August 29, 2026, 12:18:00 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 12:10:37 PMIt's getting upset at players who knew the rules and now want a special exception just for them. If they want to continue playing basketball, get an agent and go play abroad. And if they're not good enough to do that, get a job; don't take away a roster spot from a kid who has done all of the right things (Crowdis) to earn a spot and now sees these petulant wankers say, "f off, I want more." If you read these lawsuits, they claim playing college basketball is a right.

Maybe the talk about Shaka being on the hot seat after last season was real if he's going this route.

I must've missed the news that Shaka kicked Crowdis, who he talked about in a press conference as being brought in as what in past years would've been a walk on spot and called him a practice player, out of the program.

Wait, nope. Still had a scholarship. Will still be a practice player. The one year transfer doesn't change a single thing for Crowdis.

But go off King.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Jay Bee on August 29, 2026, 05:55:38 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 28, 2026, 09:42:00 PMIt's not an exception just for them. It's getting the same exception that literally everyone else they played with last year and everyone in the future will get. The 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 players all get that exception. When 8 classes in a 10 year span get the same "exception" and everyone after them does too, it's not an exception.

5 years has been the norm for a decade, we just didn't realize it until 2021. This is some real old man yells at clouds energy from you.

It was a Covid exception. Geezus

Where has common sense gone?
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 29, 2026, 06:25:36 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 28, 2026, 07:47:34 PMThere's nothing political about my position on these lawsuits and kids who refuse to grow up. I don't know the affiliation of these weasel lawyers like Heitner or the Texas Trial Group, nor do I care. I just know you have lawyers who are trying to blow up college sports and are saying it's a constitutional right to play college sports. Yes seriously.

They had their turn now it's time for the next group l, as it's been for over 100 years.

https://x.com/slmandel/status/2093439795854979532


Imagine cheering on bureaucratic incompetence...

Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2026, 07:42:50 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 29, 2026, 06:25:36 AMImagine cheering on bureaucratic incompetence...



To be fair, a lot of the founding fathers would be appalled African Americans are allowed at colleges
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: brewcity77 on August 29, 2026, 08:27:35 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 29, 2026, 05:55:38 AMIt was a Covid exception. Geezus

Where has common sense gone?

And now it's an everyone exception. 8 of 10 years.

Where has common sense gone?
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: WhiteTrash on August 29, 2026, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2026, 07:42:50 AMTo be fair, a lot of the founding fathers would be appalled African Americans are allowed at colleges
Try to be clever and tie your post to the post you are replying to. That was so random.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Badgerhater on August 29, 2026, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 29, 2026, 01:01:17 PMTry to be cleaver and tie your post to the post you are replying to. That was so random.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F19jdu1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d766ccf96dee83789c512eb923c80caee9843524d2089fe4afa97484820b9eb4
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: WhiteTrash on August 29, 2026, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on August 29, 2026, 01:04:48 PMhttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F19jdu1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d766ccf96dee83789c512eb923c80caee9843524d2089fe4afa97484820b9eb4
;D  ;D
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: willie warrior on August 29, 2026, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 29, 2026, 01:01:17 PMTry to be clever and tie your post to the post you are replying to. That was so random.
Randum
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2026, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 29, 2026, 01:01:17 PMTry to be clever and tie your post to the post you are replying to. That was so random.

It was
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 30, 2026, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 28, 2026, 09:42:00 PMIt's not an exception just for them. It's getting the same exception that literally everyone else they played with last year and everyone in the future will get. The 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 players all get that exception. When 8 classes in a 10 year span get the same "exception" and everyone after them does too, it's not an exception.

5 years has been the norm for a decade, we just didn't realize it until 2021. This is some real old man yells at clouds energy from you.

And here we have a class of 21 wanting another year.

And the COVID year isn't really apt because that was a missed or abbreviated season. It was basically like a medical hardship season - many teams played fewer than 20 games, and they were in empty gyms. In fact, kids in spring sports didn't even get an extra season, as their 2020 season was canceled and they didn't get back the abbreviated 2021 season.

Class of 2022 kids got four FULL years of eligibility (as did 2021 kids).

https://x.com/ryanhammer09/status/2094152720131236259
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: The Sultan on August 30, 2026, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 30, 2026, 03:53:34 PMAnd here we have a class of 21 wanting another year.

And the COVID year isn't really apt because that was a missed or abbreviated season. It was basically like a medical hardship season - many teams played fewer than 20 games, and they were in empty gyms. In fact, kids in spring sports didn't even get an extra season, as their 2020 season was canceled and they didn't get back the abbreviated 2021 season.

Class of 2022 kids got four FULL years of eligibility (as did 2021 kids).

https://x.com/ryanhammer09/status/2094152720131236259


The fact that you refer to them as "kids" is indicative of how condescending you have been to the players. 2023 are getting five full years. That's the point.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Badgerhater on August 30, 2026, 08:20:24 PM
The 5th year will take up some schollis that could have went to freshman, but the roster is now 15 schollies so it's basically a wash.

No need to Himalaya some molehills.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: WhiteTrash on August 30, 2026, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on August 30, 2026, 08:20:24 PMThe 5th year will take up some schollis that could have went to freshman, but the roster is now 15 schollies so it's basically a wash.

No need to Himalaya some molehills.
Agreed.

Also, this is sports, we should all agree everything is a molehill.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Jay Bee on August 31, 2026, 05:50:40 AM
Quote from: Badgerhater on August 30, 2026, 08:20:24 PMbut the roster is now 15 schollies roster spots so it's basically a wash.
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: MuMark on August 31, 2026, 02:22:02 PM
https://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/2094503365287755945?s=61
Title: Re: Colin Porter to MU
Post by: Shooter McGavin on August 31, 2026, 10:01:16 PM
Good article.  Shaka clearly recognizes the need for another true point guard.  Better late than never.  Hope he is eligible. 
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