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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2026, 09:19:24 AM

Title: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2026, 09:19:24 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/49317700/ohio-judge-grants-injunction-hoops-players-suing-ncaa

I'm not sure this ruling holds up.  If it does,  it could radically change how next year looks. Someone get Ben on the phone!
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on July 11, 2026, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2026, 09:19:24 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/49317700/ohio-judge-grants-injunction-hoops-players-suing-ncaa

 Someone get Ben on the phone!


Willie is on it.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on July 11, 2026, 12:25:11 PM
There will be lawsuits on the lawsuits. And then lawsuits on those lawsuits. By the time there's an actual ruling, Ben might be Social Security eligible. (Or whatever Australia's New Zealand's version of Social Security is.)
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: NCMUFan on July 11, 2026, 08:22:50 PM
Ben is from New Zealand.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on July 12, 2026, 12:24:11 AM
Quote from: NCMUFan on July 11, 2026, 08:22:50 PMBen is from New Zealand.

That's what I said, mate!
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on July 12, 2026, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2026, 09:19:24 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/49317700/ohio-judge-grants-injunction-hoops-players-suing-ncaa

I'm not sure this ruling holds up.  If it does,  it could radically change how next year looks. Someone get Ben on the phone!

For right now it only affects those players who were a part of the class action, three of whom were Xavier and Cincy players. In a totally unrelated coincidence, the judge who ruled in favor is a Xavier and Cincy Law grad, and his wife is the Dean of the Cincy law school.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: SoCalEagle on July 12, 2026, 02:49:02 PM
How convenient ....
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: willie warrior on July 12, 2026, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 11, 2026, 09:19:24 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/49317700/ohio-judge-grants-injunction-hoops-players-suing-ncaa

I'm not sure this ruling holds up.  If it does,  it could radically change how next year looks. Someone get Ben on the phone!
Gooolllldbrriccckkk
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 12, 2026, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on July 12, 2026, 04:47:38 PMGooolllldbrriccckkk

Did you get upgraded season tickets this year?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: K1 Lover on July 31, 2026, 05:00:09 PM
https://www.on3.com/news/vanderbilt-center-jalen-washington-granted-injunction-against-ncaa/

For the time being, it seems several more players have been granted eligibility to return and play a fifth year.

Among the list of names: AJ Storr 💀
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on July 31, 2026, 06:37:57 PM
This was always obvious:

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 26, 2026, 04:23:36 PMThe reason the portal has slowed to a crawl is because this is coming, everyone knows it's coming, and it's going to be in effect by next year. Four-year 2026 seniors that choose to return will be able to do so in 2026-27. That is definitely the most likely outcome and safest assumption to make.

We'll see if it stands up but I wouldn't trust NCAA lawyers to overturn this
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: JTJ3 on July 31, 2026, 06:39:39 PM
Would love Ben Gold back if he wants to be a backup big
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: K1 Lover on July 31, 2026, 06:47:41 PM
This just in:

"Judge Charlotte Sweeney of the U.S. District Court of Colorado has granted a class-wide preliminary injunction that requires the NCAA to declare eligible all high school class of 2022 athletes who exhausted four seasons of eligibility this spring."
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2026, 07:09:09 AM
Quote from: K1 Lover on July 31, 2026, 06:47:41 PMThis just in:

"Judge Charlotte Sweeney of the U.S. District Court of Colorado has granted a class-wide preliminary injunction that requires the NCAA to declare eligible all high school class of 2022 athletes who exhausted four seasons of eligibility this spring."
So if a school has already filled all 15 scholarship spots they can still add any returning 2022 athlete without affecting the scholarship cap? Also this means we could have Fru for another year?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 01, 2026, 07:49:52 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2026, 07:09:09 AMSo if a school has already filled all 15 scholarship spots they can still add any returning 2022 athlete without affecting the scholarship cap? Also this means we could have Fru for another year?

Doubtful on point one.  Unsure on point two.

Lawyers will be making some cash the next year plus.  Like always.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 01, 2026, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2026, 07:09:09 AMSo if a school has already filled all 15 scholarship spots they can still add any returning 2022 athlete without affecting the scholarship cap? Also this means we could have Fru for another year?

Nothing published says anything about going beyond the scholarship limit.

Fru is irrelevant to this decision. I believe Fru already has 2 years with us but the NCAA hasn't publicly clarified when the cutoff is for how it's counting academoc years.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on August 01, 2026, 03:25:51 PM
Even if Fru will be eligible to play college ball in 2027-28, there's no guarantee it will be at Marquette. He'll get paid large - maybe by MU, maybe by some other school.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 01, 2026, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 01, 2026, 03:25:51 PMEven if Fru will be eligible to play college ball in 2027-28, there's no guarantee it will be at Marquette. He'll get paid large - maybe by MU, maybe by some other school.

Whatever bro. We're building the relationship now. #Donedeal
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Mu8891 on August 01, 2026, 06:17:21 PM
I'd take Gold back as a 6th / 7th man.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on August 01, 2026, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 01, 2026, 03:53:47 PMWhatever bro. We're building the relationship now. #Donedeal

We agree. Given the incredible player turnover in college hoops, Shaka has done extraordinarily well at getting the players he wanted to keep to stay at Marquette. I like to think he'll be able to do the same with Fru should the opportunity present itself because Fru - like Nigel, Parham, Kam, etc - will so value his relationship with MU players and coaches. Bro.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The_Blaze on August 02, 2026, 05:21:29 PM
Even if the ruling stands, I don't think Chase or Gold are eligible to return to any College school / team as they both signed pro contracts.  Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 02, 2026, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: The_Blaze on August 02, 2026, 05:21:29 PMEven if the ruling stands, I don't think Chase or Gold are eligible to return to any College school / team as they both signed pro contracts.  Correct me if I am wrong.

*corrects her
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 02, 2026, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: The_Blaze on August 02, 2026, 05:21:29 PMEven if the ruling stands, I don't think Chase or Gold are eligible to return to any College school / team as they both signed pro contracts.  Correct me if I am wrong.

Signing pro contracts used to close the door to going back to a college team, but no more.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 02, 2026, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2026, 07:09:09 AMSo if a school has already filled all 15 scholarship spots they can still add any returning 2022 athlete without affecting the scholarship cap? Also this means we could have Fru for another year?

It's not 15 scholarships; it's 15 roster spots.

Unless someone on the team is a DSA, MU is at their roster cap, and the judge in Colorado said those are still in effect.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 02, 2026, 06:45:44 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 02, 2026, 06:42:30 PMIt's not 15 scholarships; it's 15 roster spots.

Unless someone on the team is a DSA, MU is at their roster cap, and the judge in Colorado said those are still in effect.

Not trying to nit-pick, but we show 14 for this coming season. Brenn's name showed up in the Canadian games, but I don't know about him. Was he given the 15th scollie?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 02, 2026, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 02, 2026, 06:45:44 PMNot trying to nit-pick, but we show 14 for this coming season. Brenn's name showed up in the Canadian games, but I don't know about him. Was he given the 15th scollie?


Brenn is on the roster at gomarquette.com. My guess is Crowdis and him aren't on scholarship.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 02, 2026, 07:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 02, 2026, 06:45:44 PMNot trying to nit-pick, but we show 14 for this coming season. Brenn's name showed up in the Canadian games, but I don't know about him. Was he given the 15th scollie?

I was going off the roster on Gomarquette.com

Again, the limit isn't 15 scholarships; it's 15 players (unless any are DSAs, in which case they don't count against the limit).
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 02, 2026, 08:23:13 PM
Im pretty sure Brenn is a grandfathered in walk on. I believe he'll be the last one at MU.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on August 02, 2026, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 02, 2026, 08:23:13 PMIm pretty sure Brenn is a grandfathered in walk on. I believe he'll be the last one at MU.
Yup, that's the case.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 03, 2026, 05:34:44 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 02, 2026, 07:27:05 PMBrenn is on the roster at gomarquette.com. My guess is Crowdis and him aren't on scholarship.
So these 15 players do not have to be offered a scholarship? Your guess is that Crowdis is paying his own Tuition and Room and Board?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 03, 2026, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 03, 2026, 05:34:44 AMSo these 15 players do not have to be offered a scholarship? Your guess is that Crowdis is paying his own Tuition and Room and Board?

Try clicking onto the scholarship table instead of expecting other scoopers to do it for you and report back with answers to your questions.  ::)
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 03, 2026, 07:29:52 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 03, 2026, 05:34:44 AMSo these 15 players do not have to be offered a scholarship? Your guess is that Crowdis is paying his own Tuition and Room and Board?

15 rostered player max, with certain exceptions for grandfathered walk-ons. That's it.

Scholarships are a different conversation and do not affect the 15 player max.

No chance Crowdis is paying his own tuition this year.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 03, 2026, 05:34:44 AMSo these 15 players do not have to be offered a scholarship? Your guess is that Crowdis is paying his own Tuition and Room and Board?

My guess is that he is getting an academic scholarship, and perhaps a partial athletic one as well.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 07:46:16 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 02, 2026, 08:23:13 PMIm pretty sure Brenn is a grandfathered in walk on. I believe he'll be the last one at MU.

He's only a sophomore though. I thought they had to be on the roster in 2024-25. Am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Viper on August 03, 2026, 07:47:44 AM
Interesting scenario...
Aug 3: Hardwood Houdini on 2nd rd pick from StJ's Dillon Mitchell...

"if Mitchell is not pleased with the contract or situation in Boston, he can go back to school. Whether that is St. John's welcoming him back or another team giving him an NIL payday to play for them, he has options. What do the Celtics want from the situation? They will retain Mitchell's rights if he returns to school, so it would function as something of a "draft-and-stash" if he returns to college, just as international players have been "stashed" for years.

Could Boston try to get Mitchell to choose a school in the Northeast so they can keep close tabs on him? Is there a college coach running a similar system to Joe Mazzulla they can direct him toward? Can Mitchell get paid, not hit the Celtics' books, develop for another year and then join the team?

There are strong benefits to having Mitchell in their own system, but they cannot offer him the kind of money he could make in college. And leaving that roster spot open gives them options to add a veteran player, and delays The Celtics and Mitchell now have options. Sorting through them to predict what both sides will decide is a difficult proposition. As of Friday, however, the world has opened up for Dillon Mitchell."

Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 03, 2026, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 07:46:16 AMHe's only a sophomore though. I thought they had to be on the roster in 2024-25. Am I mistaken?

Yes, you are mistaken. This will be his third year on the roster.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 07:49:56 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 03, 2026, 07:48:19 AMYes, you are mistaken. This will be his third year on the roster.

Ah OK. His class hasn't been updated on the roster yet. Thanks.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 03, 2026, 07:57:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 07:49:56 AMAh OK. His class hasn't been updated on the roster yet. Thanks.

Didn't play at in 2024-25, so in old terms would be a RS So. this year. But, yeah, he was on the roster two years ago.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 03, 2026, 08:51:12 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 03, 2026, 07:29:52 AM15 rostered player max, with certain exceptions for grandfathered walk-ons. That's it.

Scholarships are a different conversation and do not affect the 15 player max.

No chance Crowdis is paying his own tuition this year.

Walk-ons aren't the only ones "grandfathered" in.

An individual could be labeled a "DSA" (and not count against the limit) if they were or were going to be on the team in 2025-26 but, due to the roster limits, would be cut. So, an incoming kid who had signed a financial aid agreement could be a DSA. They do not count against the roster limit for the duration of their college career regardless of where they play.

Most schools followed the rules that only those who would have been cut were given the DSA label, while some (TCU, for example) gave entire rosters the DSA label.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 03, 2026, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 03, 2026, 07:26:11 AMTry clicking onto the scholarship table instead of expecting other scoopers to do it for you and report back with answers to your questions.  ::)
Then it should be called the Roster Table, not the scholarship table since players could have scholarships or not.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: K1 Lover on August 03, 2026, 02:24:13 PM
Quote from: Viper on August 03, 2026, 07:47:44 AMInteresting scenario...
Aug 3: Hardwood Houdini on 2nd rd pick from StJ's Dillon Mitchell...

"if Mitchell is not pleased with the contract or situation in Boston, he can go back to school. Whether that is St. John's welcoming him back or another team giving him an NIL payday to play for them, he has options. What do the Celtics want from the situation? They will retain Mitchell's rights if he returns to school, so it would function as something of a "draft-and-stash" if he returns to college, just as international players have been "stashed" for years.

Could Boston try to get Mitchell to choose a school in the Northeast so they can keep close tabs on him? Is there a college coach running a similar system to Joe Mazzulla they can direct him toward? Can Mitchell get paid, not hit the Celtics' books, develop for another year and then join the team?

There are strong benefits to having Mitchell in their own system, but they cannot offer him the kind of money he could make in college. And leaving that roster spot open gives them options to add a veteran player, and delays The Celtics and Mitchell now have options. Sorting through them to predict what both sides will decide is a difficult proposition. As of Friday, however, the world has opened up for Dillon Mitchell."

This article is incorrect. It was clarified that players affected by the class-wide injunction will not be eligible to transfer schools unless they submitted their name during the initial portal window.

So for the majority of players who were granted a fifth season, like Mitchell, their only option currently is to return to their previous team.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 03, 2026, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: K1 Lover on August 03, 2026, 02:24:13 PMThis article is incorrect. It was clarified that players affected by the class-wide injunction will not be eligible to transfer schools unless they submitted their name during the initial portal window.

So for the majority of players who were granted a fifth season, like Mitchell, their only option currently is to return to their previous team.


There have been rulings in other suits that allow players to enter the portal. I don't believe Mitchell is covered by those rulings however.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Viper on August 03, 2026, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: K1 Lover on August 03, 2026, 02:24:13 PMThis article is incorrect. It was clarified that players affected by the class-wide injunction will not be eligible to transfer schools unless they submitted their name during the initial portal window.

So for the majority of players who were granted a fifth season, like Mitchell, their only option currently is to return to their previous team.
thanks, K1. still an interesting scenario in this new age. Guys go back to school to get paid more than they'd make on a two-way...and a way for the big club to use the college program akin to triple A.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on August 05, 2026, 08:29:14 PM
Izzo says his roster is set, won't take Kohler back.  Kohler looking into transfer options.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 16, 2026, 11:15:00 AM
I think this was discussed earlier but will Nash have 5 years to play or does last year RS eat up a year? 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 16, 2026, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 16, 2026, 11:15:00 AMI think this was discussed earlier but will Nash have 5 years to play or does last year RS eat up a year?

5 years to play, regardless of whether you play or not. So, 4 years of potential competition remaining.

Will we ever see him though?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 17, 2026, 05:28:54 PM
the NCAA's motion to stay was granted in Ohio today. The claimants in that case are still eligible under Wisne, but they cannot enter the Portal.

https://x.com/samcehrlich/status/2089443552103428397
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on August 18, 2026, 12:45:52 PM
I can't track anyone's roster but our own anymore.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Johnny B on August 19, 2026, 06:22:14 AM
Aj storr to UNLV
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on August 19, 2026, 07:05:33 AM
Quote from: Johnny B on August 19, 2026, 06:22:14 AMAj storr to UNLV

9 schools in 9 years. I can't help but admire the dedication to the bit.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on August 19, 2026, 07:43:51 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 19, 2026, 07:05:33 AM9 schools in 9 years. I can't help but admire the dedication to the bit.
His tenacity is downright amazing!
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 19, 2026, 07:45:45 AM
Quote from: Nukem2 on August 19, 2026, 07:43:51 AMHis tenacity is downright amazing!

Must have his PhD by now right?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 19, 2026, 07:58:19 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 19, 2026, 07:45:45 AMMust have his PhD by now right?

A couple, otherwise he never would have gotten into Madison
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Hards Alumni on August 19, 2026, 03:12:20 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 16, 2026, 11:15:00 AMI think this was discussed earlier but will Nash have 5 years to play or does last year RS eat up a year?

He'll have 5 years to be on the team.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Mu8891 on August 19, 2026, 03:57:46 PM
Storr - Five schools in 5 years.  What an
effing joke.  Wait till he gets "hurt" this year and goes for 6 in 6. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 19, 2026, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on August 19, 2026, 03:57:46 PMStorr - Five schools in 5 years.  What an
effing joke.  Wait till he gets "hurt" this year and goes for 6 in 6. 

There are no more "medical redshirts."
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 19, 2026, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on August 19, 2026, 06:03:55 PMThere are no more "medical redshirts."

...until litigation.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 19, 2026, 08:26:33 PM
And another decision, and maybe the most ridiculous: HS class of 2022 football guys who are currently professionals can leave their teams and come back to college. WTF?

Burn it all down.

https://www.on3.com/news/former-james-madison-lb-trent-hendrick-set-to-file-lawsuit-for-fifth-year-enter-transfer-portal/
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MuggsyB on August 25, 2026, 09:12:35 AM
R.J. Luis to LSU.  This is absolutely absurd. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MUbiz on August 25, 2026, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 25, 2026, 09:12:35 AMR.J. Luis to LSU.  This is absolutely absurd. 

Absurd — 100%.
Predictable — also 100%.

Just like Nate Oats went judge‑shopping last year for Bediako, LSU did the same with the Honorable Ronald Johnson, who sits on the 19th Judicial District Court in Baton Rouge.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on August 25, 2026, 09:46:03 PM
Today, the SEC unanimously passed a rule to prevent players in Luis' situation from playing in the conference. So there probably will be more legal wrangling.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Johnny B on August 25, 2026, 10:01:34 PM
Luis can come here I guess
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: JakeBarnes on August 25, 2026, 10:54:16 PM
Quote from: MU82 on August 25, 2026, 09:46:03 PMToday, the SEC unanimously passed a rule to prevent players in Luis' situation from playing in the conference. So there probably will be more legal wrangling.

This will be known as the Will Wade rule.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: DoctorV on August 25, 2026, 10:55:09 PM
Pitino cooled on him
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on August 26, 2026, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on August 25, 2026, 10:01:34 PMLuis can come here I guess

pawz
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on August 27, 2026, 05:44:28 AM
Since when are judges ruling college sports instead of the NCAA?  It seems that student athletes are a thing of the past. They've been replaced by paid professionals. Its sad.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2026, 06:06:56 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on August 27, 2026, 05:44:28 AMSince when are judges ruling college sports instead of the NCAA?  It seems that student athletes are a thing of the past. They've been replaced by paid professionals. Its sad.

I don't think that's true.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on August 27, 2026, 07:15:09 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on August 27, 2026, 05:44:28 AMSince when are judges ruling college sports instead of the NCAA?  It seems that student athletes are a thing of the past. They've been replaced by paid professionals. Its sad.

Since the NCAA tried to get Congress to manage eligibility for them. You open the door to one co-equal branch, you're opening the door to them all.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on August 27, 2026, 08:10:48 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on August 27, 2026, 05:44:28 AMSince when are judges ruling college sports instead of the NCAA?  It seems that student athletes are a thing of the past. They've been replaced by paid professionals. Its sad.


You can always follow Concordia.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 08:29:20 AM
The NCAA is now 3-0 in appeals for district court decisions after yesterday's win. It just goes to further show that these forum-shopping lawyers picking alumni and fanboy judges to win cases can only go so far.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: UWW2MU on August 27, 2026, 12:40:39 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2026, 06:06:56 AMI don't think that's true.

It's not in 90% of the time, but unfortunately the 10% ruins college sports for everyone.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on August 27, 2026, 04:00:24 PM
Quote from: UWW2MU on August 27, 2026, 12:40:39 PMIt's not in 90% of the time, but unfortunately the 10% ruins college sports for everyone.

I enjoy college sports, so it obviously hasn't ruined college sports "for everyone."

Lots of people (all men) said Title IX would ruin college sports. Lots of people said letting freshmen play would ruin college sports. And so on and so on.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 28, 2026, 06:49:27 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 27, 2026, 08:29:20 AMThe NCAA is now 3-0 in appeals for district court decisions after yesterday's win. It just goes to further show that these forum-shopping lawyers picking alumni and fanboy judges to win cases can only go so far.
So which district judge is Colin Porters lawyers going to pick?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 07:04:01 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 28, 2026, 06:49:27 AMSo which district judge is Colin Porters lawyers going to pick?

Hopefully a good one that understands the incompetence of the NCAA and its years of postponing the inevitable
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on August 28, 2026, 08:02:55 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 07:04:01 AMHopefully a good one that understands the incompetence of the NCAA and its years of postponing the inevitable

The NCAA's decision making invites lawsuits.  With foresight, they could have smoothly transitioned from the COVID exception to full 5 year eligiblity.

But no, they decided to do it in a way that singles out a particular group of people.  I guess the one thing the NCAA is great at is creating new plaintiffs.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 08:04:53 AM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on August 28, 2026, 08:02:55 AMThe NCAA's decision making invites lawsuits.  With foresight, they could have smoothly transitioned from the COVID exception to full 5 year eligiblity.

But no, they decided to do it in a way that singles out a particular group of people.  I guess the one thing the NCAA is great at is creating new plaintiffs.

They can do more forum shopping with the federal government
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on September 24, 2026, 11:27:23 AM
Today Senate Votes On College Sports Bill
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on September 24, 2026, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on September 24, 2026, 11:27:23 AMToday Senate Votes On College Sports Bill
Even if they pass it, the House is out until after the midterms. Even then, there is far less solidarity in the House on this bill given all the various constituencies.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 24, 2026, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on September 24, 2026, 12:01:02 PMEven if they pass it, the House is out until after the midterms. Even then, there is far less solidarity in the House on this bill given all the various constituencies.

And the NCAA thought that the best way out after the years of stupid decisions was to ask Congress to take care of college sports.  ;D
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on September 24, 2026, 12:35:21 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 24, 2026, 12:21:03 PMAnd the NCAA thought that the best way out after the years of stupid decisions was to ask Congress to take care of college sports.  ;D
So true!
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 12:46:02 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 24, 2026, 12:21:03 PMAnd the NCAA thought that the best way out after the years of stupid decisions was to ask Congress to take care of college sports.  ;D

Surprised the senate had time for this given the scourge of furries in the sky.

Will never make it through the house.  Will never survive in the courts and will cause greater distress for the schools and NCAA when athletes unionize.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on September 24, 2026, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 12:46:02 PMSurprised the senate had time for this given the scourge of furries in the sky.

Will never make it through the house.  Will never survive in the courts and will cause greater distress for the schools and NCAA when athletes unionize.
Yeah, it would likely be shot down in the courts given that it rather restricts individual rights as there is no collective bargaining agreement.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on September 24, 2026, 01:03:28 PM
Today, the U.S. Senate voted 77–23 on September 24, 2026, to adopt the Cruz-Cantwell substitute amendment for the Protect College Sports Act, advancing the high-profile college sports legislation.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on September 28, 2026, 11:59:35 PM
From Tonight. WASHINGTON -- The federal bill aimed at reshaping the college sports industry took a major step toward becoming law Monday night when the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly voted 77-22 to pass it.

The Protect College Sports Act (PCSA) moves next to the House of Representatives, where it will face some opposition from both sides of the political spectrum and a narrow window to garner support. House representatives are not scheduled to vote on any bills until after November's midterm elections. If it doesn't get through the House during a lame-duck legislative session before a new Congress takes over in January, the full process would have to start from the beginning
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on September 29, 2026, 04:48:16 AM
Thankfully that legislation doesn't look like it'll go through.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 29, 2026, 06:47:51 AM
So will Porter play for Marquette and when? 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on September 29, 2026, 10:40:21 AM
Nobody knows.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 29, 2026, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2026, 10:40:21 AMNobody knows.

Excuse me sir. This is scoop. Somebody always knows. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 11:19:30 AM
God knows.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on September 29, 2026, 11:23:36 AM
He can keep a secret.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 29, 2026, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 11:19:30 AMGod knows.

Okay. So tell us.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 29, 2026, 12:03:52 PMOkay. So tell us.

I need burnt offerings first.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on September 29, 2026, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 12:22:07 PMI need burnt offerings first.

I'll get back to you just as soon as I catch Muggsy.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on September 29, 2026, 04:39:37 PM
Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, a former Stanford tight end, proposed an amendment that would hold coaches to the same kinds of financial and transfer regulations that the bill intends to place on players.

The amendment failed, 47-52.

Gotta protect the masters who run the plantations.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on September 29, 2026, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2026, 04:39:37 PMSen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, a former Stanford tight end, proposed an amendment that would hold coaches to the same kinds of financial and transfer regulations that the bill intends to place on players.

The amendment failed, 47-52.

Gotta protect the masters who run the plantations.

Coaches are employees. The 'student-athletes' are not. But, they probably should be, aina?

People are incredibly unprincipled.

Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on September 29, 2026, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 29, 2026, 06:49:40 PMCoaches are employees. The 'student-athletes' are not. But, they probably should be, aina?

People are incredibly unprincipled.


Yes. And yes.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 01, 2026, 11:43:58 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 29, 2026, 06:47:51 AMSo will Porter play for Marquette and when?

Porter will play.  'nuff said
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 02, 2026, 05:32:20 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 01, 2026, 11:43:58 PMPorter will play.  'nuff said
So I guess the question is when.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 02, 2026, 06:04:11 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 02, 2026, 05:32:20 AMSo I guess the question is when.
Midway through the first half when Nigel needs rest.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 02, 2026, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2026, 06:04:11 AMMidway through the first half when Nigel needs rest.
So I guess the question should be rephrased to when will the courts issue their final ruling on Porter being eligible to play.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Scoop Snoop on October 02, 2026, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 29, 2026, 06:47:51 AMSo will Porter play for Marquette and when?

Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 02, 2026, 05:32:20 AMSo I guess the question is when.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 02, 2026, 09:26:09 AMSo I guess the question should be rephrased to when will the courts issue their final ruling on Porter being eligible to play.


So I guess the question is "how long can I milk this for replies?"  ;D
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MUbiz on October 02, 2026, 03:13:17 PM
Porter ineligible...for the time being

https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2106112073805816017
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on October 02, 2026, 04:00:53 PM
So there are other avenues for him to become eligible?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 02, 2026, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 02, 2026, 04:00:53 PMSo there are other avenues for him to become eligible?

Likely more lawsuits in different jurisdictions, or join an existing lawsuit.

Non-zero chance that conflicting rulings force the Supreme Court to weigh in with the final opinion.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on October 02, 2026, 05:06:49 PM
I believe Porter is still eligible because he's also in the North Carolina lawsuit, which is the one that made him eligible in the first place. Seems like he's hedging his bets by spreading out where he's a plaintiff.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU82 on October 02, 2026, 05:14:43 PM
Can't beat this for fun!
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on October 02, 2026, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on October 02, 2026, 03:13:17 PMPorter ineligible...for the time being

https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2106112073805816017

He's in the NC case. Field of 68 = not bright people (but still we need NC to make a move - temp injunction at least).

Ridiculous situation.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: brewcity77 on October 02, 2026, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 02, 2026, 07:37:06 PMHe's in the NC case. Field of 68 = not bright people (but still we need NC to make a move - temp injunction at least).

Ridiculous situation.

Hard to blame Fo68 here, they posted this about 30 minutes after the decision came down and Porter was named as ineligible in this specific suit. Just because we are aware Porter is in the NC case doesn't mean that everyone, or in all honesty anyone, knows exactly which athletes are in which lawsuits state-by-state, particularly when individuals are appealing in multiple states simultaneously.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Mu8891 on October 03, 2026, 10:23:47 AM
Bottom line ... MU has no idea if Porter will be available.  It's 50/50 and TBD.
And there's no ETA on the TBD ...

MU seems to be in way better shape than last year. Way better.  I think James will be the POY in BE.  But , he will prob have to play 34+ mins a game.
NM will have to cover the rest. It would really help to have a back up PG
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 10:54:33 AM
One big, two guards. 
I said that all spring and caught lots of javelins for it.     Interestingly, Porter was exactly the type of second guard I hoped MU would sign.  Experienced and from a small conference, understanding his role and able to run the team if circumstances dictate.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 03, 2026, 11:36:46 AM
Yep need Porter.  Not sure why back up point guard wasn't a priority to leadership from the jump.  Better late than never.

Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 03, 2026, 11:36:46 AMYep need Porter.  Not sure why back up point guard wasn't a priority to leadership from the jump.  Better late than never.

Hoping for the best.
Finding a PG good enough to run the team if NJ is out, who understands it is NJ's team when healthy and that he has zero chance of starting barring injury, willing to come to MU and buy into the culture, for not a lot of money.

Quite the Venn diagram.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 03, 2026, 12:30:11 PM
I get it, yet somehow other good teams have serviceable backup point guards.  Venn diagrams or not.

Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 12:46:06 PM
Come to MU to back up the pteseason first team All Big East PG.  Did I mention he is entering his second year?   Lots of minutes available.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 03, 2026, 01:01:36 PM
Yet we landed one. It just so happens that he may not be eligible.

I doubt he was the only one available.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 03, 2026, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 12:46:06 PMCome to MU to back up the pteseason first team All Big East PG.  Did I mention he is entering his second year?   Lots of minutes available.

I get it. The starter is always better than the backup.  Yet somehow other good teams can figure it out. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on October 03, 2026, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on October 03, 2026, 10:23:47 AMBottom line ... MU has no idea if Porter will be available.  It's 50/50 and TBD.
And there's no ETA on the TBD ...

da fuq? It's not 50/50
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Mu8891 on October 03, 2026, 04:26:52 PM
Ok JB ... I will play along ...

It's not 50/50 ?  So you know how various trial and / or appellate courts will rule on what is a completely new issue?  U know if TROs or Injunctions will become permanent? U know all of this how ...
Exactly?

And while you are at it, tell us when these decisions will be made.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on October 04, 2026, 08:20:38 AM
The likelihood is simply not 50/50. This isn't a coin flip.

For more, use Roysha's pronouns and Pay/Me.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 04, 2026, 08:44:27 AM
Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 12:46:06 PMCome to MU to back up the pteseason first team All Big East PG.  Did I mention he is entering his second year?   Lots of minutes available.
Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2026, 10:54:33 AMOne big, two guards. 
I said that all spring and caught lots of javelins for it.     Interestingly, Porter was exactly the type of second guard I hoped MU would sign.  Experienced and from a small conference, understanding his role and able to run the team if circumstances dictate.

I think the javelins were more about your predictions being mid-major and low-major players only.

But Shaka was able to land a high-major big, exceeding your low expectations. 

You were right on about the guards, so I give you credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 04, 2026, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 04, 2026, 08:44:27 AMI think the javelins were more about your predictions being mid-major and low-major players only.

But Shaka was able to land a high-major big, exceeding your low expectations. 

You were right on about the guards, so I give you credit where it's due.
I was thrilled and surprised when they spent and landed Fru.  The guards were indeed low to mid-major.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Equalizer on October 05, 2026, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2026, 01:01:36 PMYet we landed one. It just so happens that he may not be eligible.

I doubt he was the only one available.

The question is why did MU wait so long and settle for a player with questionable eligibility? 

It wasn't as if MU was trying to backfill after unexpectedly losing a backup PG mid summer. They knew about the situation at PG at the same time they were pursuing Fru and Nolan.  Why wasn't the backup PG a priority then?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Boone on October 05, 2026, 09:43:53 AM
Signing Crowdis, who is no more than a glorified walk-on and will never play (he never even saw the court on Saturday in a scrimmage where we were shorthanded), was apparently more of a priority than addressing the backup PG need.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Nukem2 on October 05, 2026, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 05, 2026, 09:36:21 AMThe question is why did MU wait so long and settle for a player with questionable eligibility? 

It wasn't as if MU was trying to backfill after unexpectedly losing a backup PG mid summer. They knew about the situation at PG at the same time they were pursuing Fru and Nolan.  Why wasn't the backup PG a priority then?

MU did pursue the guy from Tulsa(?) who decided on Cincinnati instead.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 05, 2026, 09:36:21 AMThe question is why did MU wait so long and settle for a player with questionable eligibility? 

It wasn't as if MU was trying to backfill after unexpectedly losing a backup PG mid summer. They knew about the situation at PG at the same time they were pursuing Fru and Nolan.  Why wasn't the backup PG a priority then?

I think Shaka thought that Nolan might be able to serve in that role.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MUbiz on October 05, 2026, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Boone on October 05, 2026, 09:43:53 AMSigning Crowdis, who is no more than a glorified walk-on and will never play (he never even saw the court on Saturday in a scrimmage where we were shorthanded), was apparently more of a priority than addressing the backup PG need.

If a guy can't sniff the floor in a scrimmage when bodies are already stretched thin, calling him a "glorified walk-on" is honestly being generous. Burning resources and roster capital on a deep-bench flyer instead of securing a true floor general to spell the starters is malpractice — especially when you know how brutally punishing the Big East schedule gets once conference play tips off.  I am sure I will get flamed for this take, but I do not care.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on October 05, 2026, 09:36:21 AMThe question is why did MU wait so long and settle for a player with questionable eligibility? 

It wasn't as if MU was trying to backfill after unexpectedly losing a backup PG mid summer. They knew about the situation at PG at the same time they were pursuing Fru and Nolan.  Why wasn't the backup PG a priority then?

Two things.   1.  It takes two to tango.   2. IMO, it became more important to the coaching staff after the Vancouver.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 09:59:19 AM
Quote from: MUbiz on October 05, 2026, 09:47:49 AMIf a guy can't sniff the floor in a scrimmage when bodies are already stretched thin, calling him a "glorified walk-on" is honestly being generous. Burning resources and roster capital on a deep-bench flyer instead of securing a true floor general to spell the starters is malpractice — especially when you know how brutally punishing the Big East schedule gets once conference play tips off.  I am sure I will get flamed for this take, but I do not care.


Of our 15 roster spots, we have used nine of them on freshmen or sophomores, and only six on juniors, seniors, and super-seniors, one of whom may not be eligible.

I am not sure, from a depth point of view, this was a smart way to build a roster.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 09:57:04 AMTwo things.   1.  It takes two to tango.   2. IMO, it became more important to the coaching staff after the Vancouver.


You keep saying #1, but do we actually have any idea if we were turned down by anyone other than Riley.

And if #2 is the case, and we brought in Porter just a couple weeks later, it kind of leads to the conclusion that #1 wasn't really a problem. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:17:49 AM
I remember when Scoop was complaining that Marquette wasn't getting in on any of these 5 for 5 guys that would potentially be given an extra year of a eligibility.  Now we land one and it's roster malpractice.  ;D
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MUbiz on October 05, 2026, 10:27:48 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:17:49 AMI remember when Scoop was complaining that Marquette wasn't getting in on any of these 5 for 5 guys that would potentially be given an extra year of a eligibility.  Now we land on and it's roster malpractice.  ;D

Taking a flyer on a 5th-year guy with actual upside is one thing — wasting a precious spot on a walk-on who provides zero help is literal malpractice, especially when we're crying out for a ready-to-go mid-major backup point guard. Not sure why that's so hard for some people to grasp.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 10:29:40 AM
Porter checks all of the boxes...assuming he is eligible.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: MUbiz on October 05, 2026, 10:27:48 AMTaking a flyer on a 5th-year guy with actual upside is one thing — wasting a precious spot on a walk-on who provides zero help is literal malpractice, especially when we're crying out for a ready-to-go mid-major backup point guard. Not sure why that's so hard for some people to grasp.

Landed exactly that.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:31:44 AMLanded exactly that.


Except he can't play.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 10:35:32 AMExcept he can't play.

According to who?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:43:36 AMAccording to who?

If you are talking about Colin Porter, he is ineligible.

If you are talking about Fru, he is a fourth year player.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2026, 10:46:10 AM
Nolan is a more than capable backup PG. Porter is a nice to have, not a need.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: JTJ3 on October 05, 2026, 10:49:50 AM
Stevens can absolutely play PG too
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2026, 10:54:40 AM
Player A: 31.6% usage, 54.0% eFG%, 25.9% Assist Rate, 13.7% TO Rate
Player B: 18.1% usage, 52.4% eFG%, 16.6% Assist Rate, 13.1% TO Rate

Which one do you trust to be your back up PG assuming both faced similar levels of competition?
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 10:45:34 AMIf you are talking about Colin Porter, he is ineligible.

If you are talking about Fru, he is a fourth year player.

I thought Porter was ineligible based on the Kentucky ruling, but is also on the North Carolina lawsuit that has him eligible.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 11:22:29 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2026, 10:46:10 AMNolan is a more than capable backup PG. Porter is a nice to have, not a need.

Ok....then I don't understand this:

Quote from: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 09:57:04 AMIMO, it became more important to the coaching staff after the Vancouver.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2026, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on October 05, 2026, 11:22:29 AMOk....then I don't understand this:


I don't understand it either
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 11:26:37 AM
They played games in Vancouver without AS and with NJ in foul trouble.  IMO, this caused a reassessment of the need for another guard.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on October 05, 2026, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 05, 2026, 11:26:37 AMThey played games in Vancouver without AS and with NJ in foul trouble.  IMO, this caused a reassessment of the need for another guard.

Yes. Playing some scrub teams enlightened the staff to this  ::)
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 05, 2026, 12:07:06 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2026, 10:46:10 AMNolan is a more than capable backup PG. Porter is a nice to have, not a need.

From your lips to God's ears TAMU.  Hope you are right.  Would still love Porter for insurance purposes though.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Jay Bee on October 05, 2026, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2026, 10:57:18 AMI thought Porter was ineligible based on the Kentucky ruling, but is also on the North Carolina lawsuit that has him eligible.

#FakeNews #Lies x2
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on October 05, 2026, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: MUbiz on October 05, 2026, 10:27:48 AMTaking a flyer on a 5th-year guy with actual upside is one thing — wasting a precious spot on a walk-on who provides zero help is literal malpractice, especially when we're crying out for a ready-to-go mid-major backup point guard. Not sure why that's so hard for some people to grasp.

Hyperbole.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The_Blaze on October 05, 2026, 01:55:15 PM
There are successful programs that do not rely on a traditional starting point guard and run a motion offense. Marquette hasn't seen this approach in a while—both Wojo and Shaka were point guards and seem to prefer a point guard-centric offense.

Perhaps Shaka could create non–point guard sets when Nigel is off the floor. This would get more players involved, since the ball was in Nigel's hands too much last season out of necessity. This team has plenty of talent that needs to be utilized.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MU90620 on October 05, 2026, 02:45:23 PM
I don't have any thing against the 5th year guys trying to get another year. And if they do, it will be great to have Porter on the team. However, from a purely mercenarian standpoint, I wouldn't be upset if all the 5th years end up being ineligible. I think Marquette is in a much better position to handle that than most teams and they will have a much better season if 5th years don't play this year. And when it comes to college basketball, Marquette success is at the top of my priority list.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: MUDPT on October 05, 2026, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: The_Blaze on October 05, 2026, 01:55:15 PMThere are successful programs that do not rely on a traditional starting point guard and run a motion offense. Marquette hasn't seen this approach in a while—both Wojo and Shaka were point guards and seem to prefer a point guard-centric offense.

Perhaps Shaka could create non–point guard sets when Nigel is off the floor. This would get more players involved, since the ball was in Nigel's hands too much last season out of necessity. This team has plenty of talent that needs to be utilized.

Not to be a jerk, but who runs motion anymore? I guess maybe some of the Spain action? Most teams are running set plays every time down.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 07, 2026, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 02, 2026, 08:36:37 PMHard to blame Fo68 here, they posted this about 30 minutes after the decision came down and Porter was named as ineligible in this specific suit. Just because we are aware Porter is in the NC case doesn't mean that everyone, or in all honesty anyone, knows exactly which athletes are in which lawsuits state-by-state, particularly when individuals are appealing in multiple states simultaneously.

Nah, Goodman is a dummy. 
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 07, 2026, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 07, 2026, 01:41:46 PMNah, Goodman is a dummy. 

Also a giant a-hole.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 07, 2026, 02:10:22 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 07, 2026, 02:09:42 PMAlso a giant a-hole.

Plus his daughter is getting by on her own talent.
Title: Re: Judge Rules that Last Years Seniors Are Eligible for a 5th Year
Post by: The_Blaze on October 08, 2026, 02:22:12 AM
Quote from: MUDPT on October 05, 2026, 02:58:36 PMNot to be a jerk, but who runs motion anymore? I guess maybe some of the Spain action? Most teams are running set plays every time down.

Many high level programs some that MU plays often and have performed very well.
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