So after all the headlines and bluster, Kevin Warren accomplished exactly nothing with the Illinois legislature. So it is either take the deal in Hammond, or do everything in Arlington Heights on their own dime.
Brilliant stuff.
I4 Bears!
Quote from: The Sultan on June 01, 2026, 08:12:18 AMSo after all the headlines and bluster, Kevin Warren accomplished exactly nothing with the Illinois legislature. So it is either take the deal in Hammond, or do everything in Arlington Heights on their own dime.
Brilliant stuff.
While I not a big supporter of government funding private businesses, I think there are certain cases that some help can create more benefit for the state/city and justify the investment. I could see some level of support from the state of Illinois making sense, but Illinois had run their financial situation into the ground years ago and probably can't afford it. A lost opportunity for AH and Illinois.
Eh ... the Illinois General Assembly can be back in a special session as early as Friday, if they want. I wouldn't say this is over by a long stretch.
The bigger hurdle here may be convincing Arlington Heights that it's in their interests to own a football stadium.
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2061479901677428766?s=20
The polio vaccine claims another.
Raymond Berry dead at 93
Whoa ... Myles Garrett to the Rams.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 11:09:42 AMhttps://x.com/RapSheet/status/2061479901677428766?s=20
A blow to all NFL fans.
Taking Ty Simpson seems very odd if the Rams knew they were all in for 2026.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 12:35:41 PMWhoa ... Myles Garrett to the Rams.
Now Haslem can focus on trading Giannis.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 01, 2026, 01:08:10 PMNow Haslem can focus on trading Giannis.
Trade comp for Garrett looks a lot like Giannis for Chet
Give the Rams this, they're bold as hell.
Quote from: Dish on June 01, 2026, 12:59:08 PMTaking Ty Simpson seems very odd if the Rams knew they were all in for 2026.
Or, they figured they're going to be very good for the next two years and won't have another chance to draft a potential starting QB by the time Stafford retires after the 2027 season.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 08:51:54 AMEh ... the Illinois General Assembly can be back in a special session as early as Friday, if they want. I wouldn't say this is over by a long stretch.
The bigger hurdle here may be convincing Arlington Heights that it's in their interests to own a football stadium.
It's not "over" sure, but it just looks like there is no leverage. Hammond just isn't viable and everyone knows the McCaskeys don't want to be there - and I doubt the NFL wants them there either. I am sure they will throw a bone at the Bears, but it won't be the deal they wanted.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 02:21:02 PMOr, they figured they're going to be very good for the next two years and won't have another chance to draft a potential starting QB by the time Stafford retires after the 2027 season.
Sure, but the "eff dem draft picks" team to make that decision is odd to say the least.
Why not utilize an inexpensive asset to solidify your 2026 strategy? That doesn't even begin to question whether or not Simpson is even good.
As a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Not if they have to play in Bears weather
Quote from: Dish on June 01, 2026, 02:37:06 PMSure, but the "eff dem draft picks" team to make that decision is odd to say the least.
Why not utilize an inexpensive asset to solidify your 2026 strategy? That doesn't even begin to question whether or not Simpson is even good.
Oh, sure, I get why people question it. And it's a fair question. I'm just tossing out a possible explanation for it. Not terribly different from what the Packers did in 2020. Which, on the one hand, you can say worked out great because they got themselves another legit QB1. On the other hand, maybe they stay put, draft Tee Higgins and L'Jarius Sneed with their picks, and that gets them to another Super Bowl with Rodgers.
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Injury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Probably accounted for the fact that Garrett is a better player (for at least the next year or two)
Quote from: GB Warrior on June 01, 2026, 03:57:39 PMInjury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Probably accounted for the fact that Garrett is a better player (for at least the next year or two)
Also, Garrett is locked in on a contract with very reasonable cap hits for the next three seasons ... $8.1 million this year, $16 million in 2028, $21.4 million in 2029. Parsons needed to be paid.
Parsons is also three years younger than Garrett.
It was a great trade for the Rams, who despite not getting immediate value out of their 2026 #1 draft pick, have had a superb offseason and now appear to have no offensive or defensive weaknesses.
The Seahawks are still a formidable team, but I'd objectively rate the Rams as division favorites.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 04:18:30 PMAlso, Garrett is locked in on a contract with very reasonable cap hits for the next three seasons ... $8.1 million this year, $16 million in 2028, $21.4 million in 2029. Parsons needed to be paid.
Great point here.
Quote from: GB Warrior on June 01, 2026, 03:57:39 PMInjury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Yeah, Verse is awesome - he plays every down and the biggest knock is his high missed tackle %, which feels very fluky imo. I doubt he will be willing to play out his current contract for a crappy Browns team, but he is dirt cheap at the moment too.
hopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 02, 2026, 10:45:34 AMhopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
As a Packers fan, I'm jealous of the Seahawks success, too. It's a disgrace how better run they are than the Packers and are committed to winning titles and not just building sled hills.
Just wish we had some luck like being the 1-seed in the playoffs under LaFleur with a full roster and hall of fame QB. We'd be unstoppable.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 02, 2026, 10:51:59 AMAs a Packers fan, I'm jealous of the Seahawks success, too. It's a disgrace how better run they are than the Packers and are committed to winning titles and not just building sled hills.
Just wish we had some luck like being the 1-seed in the playoffs under LaFleur with a full roster and hall of fame QB. We'd be unstoppable.
And they're run by a guy who came up in Green Bay.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 12:01:09 PMAnd they're run by a guy who came up in Green Bay.
It's important to establish the run after all
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 02, 2026, 10:45:34 AMhopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
I don't wish injuries on anybody. I know you're a good guy, so I'm surprised that's what you're doing.
Quote from: MU82 on June 02, 2026, 03:27:01 PMI don't wish injuries on anybody. I know you're a good guy, so I'm surprised that's what you're doing.
I'm guessing it was a reference about how we all have five years of Covid vaccine injuries but for some reason the Seahawks don't have the debilitating tremors yet
Caleb to Madden cover.
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The nails are going to generate nothing but positive response, I'm sure
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 03, 2026, 11:06:09 AMThe nails are going to generate nothing but positive response, I'm sure
I just hope Cole Palmer gets his share of the royalties. He could use some good news these days.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 03, 2026, 10:40:26 AMCaleb to Madden cover.
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Hammond, Indiana doesn't look like that
Great, just when the Bears get a young QB on the rise, here come the #distractions >:(
At least the Madden Curse has dissipated a bit. Pretty sure Josh Allen won MVP the year he was on the cover and CMC had a huge year after being on the cover the next year.
Social media response has been hilarious, naturally. The photoshopped Hammond covers have been great. As is the people that are acting like the Madden cover is supposed to be a direct reflection of PFF player rankings or something. Its pure marketing and buzz, and the young former #1 pick who just had a bunch of playoff heroics is plenty buzzy. Is Drake Maye a better QB right now? Sure. Does Drake Maye on the cover drive conversation and buzz outside of New England? Not especially.
https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2062557004841808328
ESPN sources: Green Bay WR Christian Watson and the Packers reached agreement today on a four-year, $110.5 million contract extension that includes a $31 million signing bonus.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 04, 2026, 10:37:06 AMhttps://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2062557004841808328
ESPN sources: Green Bay WR Christian Watson and the Packers reached agreement today on a four-year, $110.5 million contract extension that includes a $31 million signing bonus.
Righteous bucks for a guy with 133 catches over four seasons.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2026, 10:44:41 AMRighteous bucks for a guy with 133 catches over four seasons.
My thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2026, 11:07:27 AMMy thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Yep. I think he's better than his numbers, and could turn this into a surplus deal for the Packers if he stays healthy. But NFL players tend not to become less injury prone as they age.
This money would have been better used on Anders.
Watson stretches the field. The offense is a lot less dynamic without him out there.
His injuries concern me as do his mediocre hands.
Packers changed their trainer room last year... hopefully that helps him stay healthy.
Makes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 04, 2026, 11:44:08 AMWatson stretches the field. The offense is a lot less dynamic without him out there.
His injuries concern me as do his mediocre hands.
Packers changed their trainer room last year... hopefully that helps him stay healthy.
Makes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
I'm definitely worried about his health.
I think his hands have evolved and he's got really good but not great hands now. He had 7 drops his rookie season. He has 6 total drops the last three years (35 games). And he's made some incredible catches in that time period too.
Last year he also transformed into a really good full receiver, averaging 1100 yards and 10 TDs extrapolated out to a full season. If he stays on the field I think this ends up being a huge bargain. If he keeps getting hurt, not so much.
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2026, 11:07:27 AMMy thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Maybe the Packers will finally get lucky
Quote from: BM1090 on June 04, 2026, 12:21:32 PMI'm definitely worried about his health.
I think his hands have evolved and he's got really good but not great hands now. He had 7 drops his rookie season. He has 6 total drops the last three years (35 games). And he's made some incredible catches in that time period too.
Last year he also transformed into a really good full receiver, averaging 1100 yards and 10 TDs extrapolated out to a full season. If he stays on the field I think this ends up being a huge bargain. If he keeps getting hurt, not so much.
His efficiency stats are near the top of the league. He's a legitimately top 20 WR when healthy. This deal will be defined by health and maybe MLF being willing to give volume to his best players in the passing game
Ah.
I see the Bears are trying to pressure Illinois lawmakers with Hammond again...
4-D chess by Kevin Warren. Any more masterful and Trump would pick him to negotiate with Iran
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 11:36:00 AMAh.
I see the Bears are trying to pressure Illinois lawmakers with Hammond again...
Did they ever stop with the Indiana possibility?
It will be Arlington Heights. Everyone knows this yet Kevin Warren still thinks he has leverage.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 05, 2026, 12:40:41 PMDid they ever stop with the Indiana possibility?
No but everyone knows they don't want to be there. The NFL doesn't want them there either. There won't be Super Bowls or Final Fours in Hammond.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2026, 01:17:43 PMIt will be Arlington Heights. Everyone knows this yet Kevin Warren still thinks he has leverage.
If anything this is just going to get the Illinois politicians more annoyed.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 01:52:56 PMNo but everyone knows they don't want to be there. The NFL doesn't want them there either. There won't be Super Bowls or Final Fours in Hammond.
Or restaurants, hotels, entertainment venues, $750k townhouses,$2,700 a month apartments, etc.
Even if the stadium deal is slightly worse for the Bears, the comparative value of the surrounding development more than makes up for it.
Maybe Chicago can get an expansion franchise when they add 2 new teams.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2026, 04:48:06 PMMaybe the Packers will finally get lucky
Maybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
Quote from: MU82 on June 05, 2026, 04:10:54 PMMaybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
If it's the packers backup though it's gonna be the second best qb in the division
Quote from: Shaka Shart on June 05, 2026, 05:11:35 PMIf it's the packers backup though it's gonna be the second best qb in the division
Bruh. That's been Tyson Bagent for a couple years now.
and injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Quote from: MU82 on June 05, 2026, 04:10:54 PMMaybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 05, 2026, 08:46:49 PMand injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Exactly. 17 lucky wins.
I guess your pledge to show the champs respect if they beat the Rams has gone by the wayside, but that's OK. I get what it's like to be bitter about another team's championship success when the team I root for chokes and disappoints -
again.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 05, 2026, 08:46:49 PMand injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Take the banner down, Seattle. Packer fans have spoken.
Anyone hear any news on a new sled hill?
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 01:53:55 PMIf anything this is just going to get the Illinois politicians more annoyed.
They could get Tom Crean to explain why the stadium should be in Hammond.
Businessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2026, 11:36:44 AMBusinessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
They have as many Super Bowl victories as the Packers since the merger. Makes you think.
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2026, 11:36:44 AMBusinessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
Investing in Seattle? Good businessmen know when to zig when others zag.
Mahomes signs an extension to add 2 years onto his existing 6 year deal at just over $60MM per year, total deal value now over $500MM.
Obviously he's still an elite top 5 QB, but kind of wild timing given he'll be 5 years past his last MVP and last All Pro nod, 4 years since his last Pro Bowl, and coming over the 2 worst seasons of his career PLUS a major knee injury.
I think that run will be the last of Pat and Andy, if not sooner. With Kelce retiring next year, their window will be closing. Even their current team is a shell of the Super Bowl years. They'll always be good with PM behind center.
In all, I think the additional years are fine, because they're not guaranteed.
Interesting graphic I saw on The Athletic:
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https://x.com/i/status/2065485315335139690
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 12, 2026, 06:40:04 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2065485315335139690
Classic.
With all the talk about the Bears potentially moving, I'm surprised no one here has mentioned the possibility of Congress dismantling the Sports Broadcasting Act, which potentially would be devastating for the Packers. That threat has been simmering for a few months now, and ironically Scott Fitzgerald (House-WI) has been leading the House subcommittee on the matter. For a variety of reasons, no team in professional sports in the US benefits from the SBA more than the Packers (I don't think that's bad/wrong either, it just is what it is).
Also to be clear, teams like Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis would also be effed if the SBA was dissolved.
Quote from: Dish on June 17, 2026, 01:06:21 AMWith all the talk about the Bears potentially moving, I'm surprised no one here has mentioned the possibility of Congress dismantling the Sports Broadcasting Act, which potentially would be devastating for the Packers. That threat has been simmering for a few months now, and ironically Scott Fitzgerald (House-WI) has been leading the House subcommittee on the matter. For a variety of reasons, no team in professional sports in the US benefits from the SBA more than the Packers (I don't think that's bad/wrong either, it just is what it is).
Also to be clear, teams like Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis would also be effed if the SBA was dissolved.
Dish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 04, 2026, 11:44:08 AMMakes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
I think he's a receiver. Nonetheless, I like that GB inked this deal. Dude sucks.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 17, 2026, 07:38:45 AMDish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
Agree but they've also had a 3+ decade run of success. I think the value of the SBA to a team like the Packers is girding them against any sort of downturn.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 17, 2026, 07:38:45 AMDish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
There's certainly grandstanding going on in some capacity here (I'll leave that comment alone).
The Packers have an enormous fanbase, but that doesn't translate if they were on an island and had to come up with a local media rights deal to be self sufficient as their lead revenue stream. I would venture to guess any SBA change would prohibit a team doing their own streaming regional network (if you will).
Do I think a national shared media rights deal is going away completely? No, I certainly do not. I may be a Bears fan, but forcing Green Bay to move would be a gargantuan disaster.
NFL says thanks, but no thanks, to Brendan Sorsby.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The NFL has informed teams that it will NOT be holding a Supplemental Draft, meaning Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby will not be eligible to enter the NFL in 2026.
The CBA allows the league to decide whether to hold a Supplemental Draft, and this year, it won't.
I mean, that's pretty damn funny.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 23, 2026, 12:45:21 PMI mean, that's pretty damn funny.
What are the odds, right?
Sometimes when you bet on yourself, it doesn't work out.
If only he'd just killed a woman like Leonard Little did.
Man, I bet the various NFL lawyers all begged to write this letter. This was like shooting fish in a barrel.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2069475313617424663?s=20
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 23, 2026, 12:55:56 PMIf only he'd just killed a woman like Leonard Little did.
Leonard Little's presence on the field never required a fan, especially one who likes to gamble, to wonder whether a game was on the up and up.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 23, 2026, 05:44:49 PMLeonard Little's presence on the field never required a fan, especially one who likes to gamble, to wonder whether a game was on the up and up.
should have gone with teal.
All sports should support and encourage players or coaches or anyone involved to bet but only on their own team winning.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 23, 2026, 08:08:07 PMAll sports should support and encourage players or coaches or anyone involved to bet but only on their own team winning.
If they did this it'd pretty much guarantee a team would finally sign Anders to better their chances of actually winning. So I 100% support this.
Terrion Arnold charged with felonies that carry potential life in prison. What's crazy is the least egregious of the felonies is practicing dentistry.
Not a surprise.
Sorsby threatening a lawsuit. Also not a surprise.
Good luck to Sorsby, especially if the NFLPA has no interest in getting involved. (Why would they?) And even if he was successful and forced the NFL to hold a supplemental draft, do you actually think a team will draft him given everything?
He's best to work on his game, and fix his personal problems, in time for the 2027 draft.
Just when I was ready to concede the Bear's run of consecutive 'Off Season Championships'; Caleb send the Pope a bad ass jersey. Caleb is the master of last second victories!!!
Hang a banner and have a parade Chi-town.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 05, 2026, 04:25:31 PMJust when I was ready to concede the Bear's run of consecutive 'Off Season Championships'; Caleb send the Pope a bad ass jersey. Caleb is the master of last second victories!!!
Hang a banner and have a parade Chi-town.
It was a knockoff jersey. Presumably the best the McCaskeys could afford. The Indianas of jerseys if you will
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 05, 2026, 04:30:34 PMIt was a knockoff jersey. Presumably the best the McCaskeys could afford. The Indianas of jerseys if you will
Really beating off a dead horse huh BF?
The Seahawks were sold for $9.6 billion - nearly 60% more than the previous high paid for an NFL franchise.
The team was sold to the Khosla family, who have been minority owners of the 49ers. Vinod Khosla is a venture capitalist and co-founder of Sun Microsystems. His son Neal is the CEO of AI healthcare company Curai.
They will have to divest their stake in the 49ers before being allowed to take control of the Seahawks. The NFL board still must approve the sale.
Talk about your rough layoffs ...
ESPN has cut ties with NFL analyst Ryan Clark, sources briefed on the move told The Athletic.
Clark was on ESPN's "NFL Live" on Monday. He was informed of the decision during the show, said the sources, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. Clark did not finish the program.
Sources at ESPN say the reason they told Clark during the show was due to media inquiries into his departure and a fear that the news would leak out before they could inform him. ... ESPN's plan was to do that on Tuesday morning.
ESPN and its sister platform, NFL Network, are expected to have more layoffs Tuesday as part of broader cuts at their parent company, Disney. There are expected to be a small number of layoffs of on-air personalities based at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., as well as a larger number of employees, both on- and off-the-air, from NFL Network.
UPDATE:
Karl Ravech, who called last night's Phillies-Dodgers game, and NFL insider Tom Pelissero were also aid off Tuesday. Others reportedly getting axed as ESPN and the NFL Network consolidate: Cam Newton, David Lloyd, Stephania Bell, Bart Scott and Charles Davis.
Quote from: MU82 on July 21, 2026, 09:54:05 AMTalk about your rough layoffs ...
ESPN has cut ties with NFL analyst Ryan Clark, sources briefed on the move told The Athletic.
Clark was on ESPN's "NFL Live" on Monday. He was informed of the decision during the show, said the sources, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. Clark did not finish the program.
Sources at ESPN say the reason they told Clark during the show was due to media inquiries into his departure and a fear that the news would leak out before they could inform him. ... ESPN's plan was to do that on Tuesday morning.
ESPN and its sister platform, NFL Network, are expected to have more layoffs Tuesday as part of broader cuts at their parent company, Disney. There are expected to be a small number of layoffs of on-air personalities based at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., as well as a larger number of employees, both on- and off-the-air, from NFL Network.
UPDATE:
Karl Ravech, who called last night's Phillies-Dodgers game, and NFL insider Tom Pelissero were also aid off Tuesday. Others reportedly getting axed as ESPN and the NFL Network consolidate: Cam Newton, David Lloyd, Stephania Bell, Bart Scott and Charles Davis.
My guess is they were all canoodling with NFL HCs.
Diego Pavia doesn't even make it to training camp.
Came up short.
Please respect Muggsys privacy in these trying times
Do broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
Quote from: RJax55 on July 24, 2026, 01:08:15 PMDo broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
No one ever suspended Bill Raftery
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 23, 2026, 04:26:32 PMPlease respect Muggsys privacy in these trying times
Manatee wasn't on sale anyway at the grocery store. I'll refrain out of respect
Quote from: RJax55 on July 24, 2026, 01:08:15 PMDo broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
Never would have suspected Mr. Summerall - I mean Mr. Romo - was a drinker.
He was such a rational color guy.
Quote from: Jockey on July 24, 2026, 06:32:00 PMNever would have suspected Mr. Summerall - I mean Mr. Romo - was a drinker.
He was such a rational color guy.
Our family took an elevator at Wrigley after a Cubs game as a kid; Mr. Caray shared the ride with us and could barely stand up.
I heard rumors he would drink occasionally. ;D
The Romo booking photo is pretty good (pawz). Bro looks high as a kite.
Uh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
Quote from: Shaka Shart on July 24, 2026, 10:45:20 PMUh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
Packers to Indiana?
Quote from: Shaka Shart on July 24, 2026, 10:45:20 PMUh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
STOCK DRIVE
Or they'll have to have Milwaukee to bail them out again
Move to Mequon.
Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2026, 07:45:22 AMMove to Mequon.
They wouldn't be able to afford all the extra security
Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2026, 07:45:22 AMMove to Mequon.
This exceeds the number of minorities Steve Novak can tolerate
Terrible ... Eric Bienemy's wife shot at family home, allegedly by their son.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2026/07/27/eric-bieniemy-wife-shot-virginia-chiefs-coach/91062181007/
Thankfully, Mia Bieniemy is in in stable condition.
LEESBURG, Va. — The Washington Commanders announced the firing of tight ends coach Ben Steele on Monday following his recent arrest on suspicion of driving while intoxicated in Virginia.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7472643/2026/07/27/commanders-ben-steele-dwi-fired/?
Fortunately, Ben has his job covering Marquette hoops for the Milwaukee newspaper to fall back on!
Quote from: MU82 on July 28, 2026, 10:26:31 AMLEESBURG, Va. — The Washington Commanders announced the firing of tight ends coach Ben Steele on Monday following his recent arrest on suspicion of driving while intoxicated in Virginia.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7472643/2026/07/27/commanders-ben-steele-dwi-fired/?
Fortunately, Ben has his job covering Marquette hoops for the Milwaukee newspaper to fall back on!
Swift punishment! Good thing Shanahans accident wasn't fishy and is totally above board
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 28, 2026, 11:00:01 AMSwift punishment! Good thing Shanahans accident wasn't fishy and is totally above board
Someone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph streethttps://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Shanahan in a coma could beat a Matt LaFleur team in the playoffs
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
On the other hand ... from The Athletic:
Shanahan clarifies key detail on car accident
Kyle Shanahan had a group of reporters in his office to clear up the circumstances of his July 14 car crash. One key detail that was mishandled in a state database — it was Shanahan who crossed into oncoming traffic not the 21-year old driver of the other car.
Shanahan said his cell phone slid off his lap and he went to retrieve it. As he came back up the airbag had deployed, breaking his nose. He said he remembered the crash clearly and never lost consciousness. More details to come.
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Trust women
Rough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 03, 2026, 01:26:19 PMRough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
Good player. I wanted the Seahawks to keep him, and thought the Bears made a good signing. Hopefully he really won't need surgery and returns fully healthy for the second half of the season.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 03, 2026, 01:26:19 PMRough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
This would just be a typical Monday for the Lions. Next man up.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 03, 2026, 02:41:55 PMThis would just be a typical Monday for the Lions. Next man up.
Difference is this safety didn't have karma waiting for him after trying to injure the opposite receivers.
Good luck to Atlanta with $22.5M of cap space on a RB. Yes, he's the best in the NFL and should be the highest paid RB, but that's too much on that position. Just one man's opinion.
Zay Flowers now the 4th highest paid WR.
I realize timing is everything, but...
Poles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 05:24:06 PMPoles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
They just need Bears weather
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 11, 2026, 05:28:35 PMThey just need Bears weather
And MLF on the other sideline.
Kyler Murray's job got easier
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 06:38:54 PMAnd MLF on the other sideline.
The NFC salivates at coaching against him in January
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 11, 2026, 06:41:12 PMThe NFC salivates at coaching against him in January
Yes, because that means they are in the playoffs.
Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2026, 06:46:40 PMYes, because that means they are in the playoffs.
The last time a Packer regular season ended before January 1 was 2019.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 05:24:06 PMPoles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
Coby Bryant is a "shinny new object"? He's a good player, I wish the Seahawks had kept him, and I'm sorry he's injured ... but if
that's the injury that forces the Chicago offense to have to score 42 a game, then Poles didn't do a very good job this offseason.
Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2026, 06:40:07 PMKyler Murray's job got easier
Why?
Quote from: MU82 on August 11, 2026, 07:38:53 PMCoby Bryant is a "shinny new object"? He's a good player, I wish the Seahawks had kept him, and I'm sorry he's injured ... but if that's the injury that forces the Chicago offense to have to score 42 a game, then Poles didn't do a very good job this offseason.
Some would say you are stating the obvious.
Seriously, the injuries are significant in the secondary. Losing Bryant for the year is the icing on the cake. But, the Bears lead the NFL in most players' games missed due to injury last year, so maybe there is hope.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 06:38:54 PMAnd MLF on the other sideline.
At least he will have someone else challenging plays. Oh wait, he's too much of a pretty boy to give up that important duty.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 07:01:57 PMThe last time a Packer regular season ended before January 1 was 2019.
Thank you creation of the 7 seed!
This is why the proletariat must win
https://www.foiaball.com/p/aaron-rodgers-secretly-bought-police-alpr-cameras
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 12, 2026, 08:07:38 AMThis is why the proletariat must win
https://www.foiaball.com/p/aaron-rodgers-secretly-bought-police-alpr-cameras
Insane behavior.
From The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
Quote from: MU82 on August 12, 2026, 11:20:27 AMFrom The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
I'm still boycotting over Kaeperneck and Bad Bunny's halftime show
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 07:58:45 PMSome would say you are stating the obvious.
Seriously, the injuries are significant in the secondary. Losing Bryant for the year is the icing on the cake. But, the Bears lead the NFL in most players' games missed due to injury last year, so maybe there is hope.
Did they put in a new electrical substation near Halas Hall?
Quote from: MU82 on August 12, 2026, 11:20:27 AMFrom The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
That is shocking!
2.2M watched the Sox v Guardians???????
Kevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
Guy's a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clown
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
THEY REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME!!!!
Seriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 13, 2026, 01:16:23 PMSeriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
Build a stadium at the Foxconn location. Win-win
Quote from: The Sultan on August 13, 2026, 01:16:23 PMSeriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
A little inside baseball here.
The Bears had a deal with Illinois that they could live with and that passed the state House in April.
Then KW, for whatever reason, started playing footsie with Brandon Johnson again. The Chicago delegation of the Illinois Senate - which hadn't yet passed the House bill - caught wind of this and instead passed a new bill that would give the team the same incentives whether they chose Arlington Heights or Chicago. But they passed it hours before the legislative session closed, and didn't give the House enough time to consider and vote on it. So nothing got through.
Once again, one man's pipe dream of building a lakefront vanity project is costing the team time and money.
Seahawks are signing CB Terrion Arnold despite his legal baggage.
It's an unusual move for the team, which has shied away from dealing with players who have external issues.
It's unknown if and when the NFL will weigh in and possibly suspend him.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
They should just threaten to build it in Kenosha at this point.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 13, 2026, 01:37:50 PMBuild a stadium at the Foxconn location. Win-win
Microsoft has already stolen most of that land.
Quote from: MU82 on August 13, 2026, 09:41:26 PMSeahawks are signing CB Terrion Arnold despite his legal baggage.
It's an unusual move for the team, which has shied away from dealing with players who have external issues.
It's unknown if and when the NFL will weigh in and possibly suspend him.
Is facing life in prison an real issue?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:41:49 AMIs facing life in prison an real issue?
He's only facing life in prison if he's convicted of a serious enough crime.
You do know that allegations aren't convictions and/or sentences, right?
BTW, I am not defending the signing, or attacking it. My post merely passed along the news. Teams in all leagues sign athletes who have been accused, convicted, even jailed. Some of those athletes have even gone on to be Hall of Famers. That's just the way it is.
Quote from: MU82 on August 14, 2026, 11:31:23 AMHe's only facing life in prison if he's convicted of a serious enough crime.
You do know that allegations aren't convictions and/or sentences, right?
BTW, I am not defending the signing, or attacking it. My post merely passed along the news. Teams in all leagues sign athletes who have been accused, convicted, even jailed. Some of those athletes have even gone on to be Hall of Famers. That's just the way it is.
I was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing
potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:16:17 PMI was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
His sentence will be commuted and he'll be forced to play his entire career with the Browns
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:16:17 PMI was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
It's all good. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't come out in posts.
I've always been a big believer that most people deserve second chances, though I admit that I haven't followed Arnold's case closely. As always, the U.S. justice system (and NFL's justice system) will say a lot about whether he plays so much as one down for the Seahawks.
I don't even know if Arnold was any good during his two seasons with the Lions, though I have learned to trust the personnel decisions of John Schneider and Mike Macdonald.
He was meh.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2026, 05:32:39 PMHe was meh.
Thanks for your perspective, Tower.
Schneider and Macdonald haven't been perfect with their personnel decisions, but they've been darn good. So I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with any Seahawks acquisition, including this one. If he ever plays a down in Seattle, that is.
Detroit brought in a lot of secondary help prior to Arnold's escapade. This was considered a make or break season, as his first two had been marked by injuries and mediocre play.
Seahawks make Devon Witherspoon the highest-paid CB ever.
Vaxxed?
Would all 3 bears qbs start on the Browns
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 15, 2026, 04:06:08 PMWould all 3 bears qbs start on the Browns
Bagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 15, 2026, 04:11:54 PMBagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
When they play in Bears weather, no one in the league is better than any Bears QB
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 04:47:13 PMWhen they play in Bears weather, no one in the league is better than any Bears QB
Global warming is why their quarterback play has been suffering.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 15, 2026, 05:18:34 PMGlobal warming is why their quarterback play has been suffering.
Hammond weather will not help that.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
Yeah the underground radiation generates too much heat.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
Hammond is basically in Kentucky.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 15, 2026, 04:11:54 PMBagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
Tyson "Matt Flynn" bagent imo
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
I know the NFL talks about the testing of its helmets but doubt it's been tested in Chernobyl
Jeremiyah Love's 14 touches were by far the most in a preseason game by a first-round rookie RB in the past 10 seasons. Why give him so many? "I mean, it's a rookie that hadn't played," first-year head coach Mike LaFleur said, adding that he essentially decided to give him such a big workload just to see how Love could handle it.
Answer: Not well. Love sprained his ankle and is out for at least the rest of the preseason.
Has your team drafted two Hall of Fame kickers this decade?!
It's possible Tom Brady is no longer the greatest 6th round pick.
Anyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
I'm a big nfl fan and watch plenty of non-Packers game. I care less about preseason than trying to protect manatees.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2026, 09:43:53 PMAnyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
Zero interest in the games. Hell, it would be less than zero if that were mathematically possible.
The only thing that matters to me is that no one on my team gets hurt.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2026, 09:43:53 PMAnyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
Wow, really? NFL preseason is boring and not worth the time? You heard it here first folks. I was just going to post I long for the days of 6 preseason and 14 regular season games.
Is it like rooting for the White Sox in 2025?
Can't build a new stadium there if you can't restore power.
Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2026, 08:42:40 AMCan't build a new stadium there if you can't restore power.
That community should vote the right way and maybe Indiana leadership would care
https://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
You'll notice this didn't happen in East Israel
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 24, 2026, 11:49:55 AMYou'll notice this didn't happen in East Israel
That's what the settlers are calling it these days, too.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
Don't worry, Kraft sent him the number for his lawyer.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
He's an owner. He'll be fine
Why are billionaires trying to get their rocks off in massage parlors and trailer parks?
Accused sexual assaulter Deshaun Watson, fresh off being booed repeatedly during a preseason home game, was named Cleveland's starting QB.
Just when you think the Browns can't get even more effed up ...
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 24, 2026, 12:53:12 PMHe's an owner. He'll be fine
As a Packers fan, I'm not willing to throw stones about another team's owner.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 24, 2026, 02:05:25 PMAs a Packers fan, I'm not willing to throw stones about another team's owner.
Precisely. Virginia McCaskey used to give out hand jobs to Indiana politicians to grease the wheels for the Bears back in the day
Quote from: MU82 on August 24, 2026, 01:58:00 PMAccused sexual assaulter Deshaun Watson, fresh off being booed repeatedly during a preseason home game, was named Cleveland's starting QB.
Just when you think the Browns can't get even more effed up ...
I don't know what they are supposed to do with him. Sanders is just as bad and I don't think Watson would be great as a back-up. And they can't afford to cut him.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 02:30:16 PMI don't know what they are supposed to do with him. Sanders is just as bad and I don't think Watson would be great as a back-up. And they can't afford to cut him.
Jimmy Haslam, baby!
My brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
Quote from: Dish on August 24, 2026, 04:17:37 PMMy brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
A Domer paying for sex? "Not surprised". ;D
Quote from: Dish on August 24, 2026, 04:17:37 PMMy brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
Similarly, one of my best friends grew up in Warren, just outside Youngstown. His response was basically..."I learned in the 20+ years my family lived near Youngstown to never be surprised by the baffling, trashing, or disturbing things that happen to people in Youngstown...rich, poor, or otherwise."
Then he referenced a classmate of his best friend growing up who went to one of the private HS's in Youngstown. Not Debartolo levels of money, but from a very wealthy old money family there. Went to Case and then got an MBA at Wharton. Moved to Chicago and then Columbus working in finance. Headed back to Youngstown by his late 20s cause he was "bored" with the bigger cities and missed Youngstown. By 30 he was in prison after he wrapped a car around a pole after driving under the influence of multiple narcotics, also with a prostitute...for the second time since moving back to Youngstown.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 24, 2026, 04:41:17 PMSimilarly, one of my best friends grew up in Warren, just outside Youngstown. His response was basically..."I learned in the 20+ years my family lived near Youngstown to never be surprised by the baffling, trashing, or disturbing things that happen to people in Youngstown...rich, poor, or otherwise."
Then he referenced a classmate of his best friend growing up who went to one of the private HS's in Youngstown. Not Debartolo levels of money, but from a very wealthy old money family there. Went to Case and then got an MBA at Wharton. Moved to Chicago and then Columbus working in finance. Headed back to Youngstown by his late 20s cause he was "bored" with the bigger cities and missed Youngstown. By 30 he was in prison after he wrapped a car around a pole after driving under the influence of multiple narcotics, also with a prostitute...for the second time since moving back to Youngstown.
This is the story of JD Vance
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 24, 2026, 02:23:57 PMPrecisely. Virginia McCaskey used to give out hand jobs to Indiana politicians to grease the wheels for the Bears back in the day
Come on now, that was only like two years ago.
First the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 26, 2026, 04:09:43 PMFirst the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Vaxxed?
Quote from: The Sultan on August 26, 2026, 04:40:56 PMVaxxed?
Vaccines, the pro bowl being cancelled, gas prices out of control, endless wars.
So much for making America great again
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 26, 2026, 04:09:43 PMFirst the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Participation trophies for everyone
Very upsetting news. How will Keisean Nixon and Shedeur Sanders get the praise and attention they've rightfully earned?
Josh Jacobs TOTALLY EXONERATED
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 27, 2026, 03:11:41 PMJosh Jacobs TOTALLY EXONERATED
How many games will he miss, ummm due to injury?
If a video of Jacobs throwing his girlfriend to the ground gets released by TMZ, I don't see how he can stay in the NFL.
Seems like a lot of posturing going on. If I'm reading the complaint correctly, it's saying there is video of them in the garage and Jacobs destroying her phone while she lays on the ground. My interpretation is that there isn't explicit video footage of him throwing her down.
Two misdemeanors here feels a bit like posturing. I'd argue the timing of these charges is not coincidental.
Hopefully Matt lafleur does the right thing and realizes establishing the run is only the second most important thing here behind being ethical.
Quote from: Dish on August 27, 2026, 04:48:24 PMIf a video of Jacobs throwing his girlfriend to the ground gets released by TMZ, I don't see how he can stay in the NFL.
Seems like a lot of posturing going on. If I'm reading the complaint correctly, it's saying there is video of them in the garage and Jacobs destroying her phone while she lays on the ground. My interpretation is that there isn't explicit video footage of him throwing her down.
Two misdemeanors here feels a bit like posturing. I'd argue the timing of these charges is not coincidental.
A push to the ground is bad, but I'm not sure it is going to get him thrown out of the NFL, let alone off the Packers. This isn't going to be a video of Ray Rice beating the hell out of his girlfriend. Having said that, I haven't seen the video and I'm not defending his behavior, but this seems to be his first offense (correct me if I'm wrong) and he will most likely face a suspension of some sort.
I don't care about a destroyed phone.
Again, I am not condoning any of this behavior, I simply think the NFL isn't going to drop the hammer.
Having said all of this, I'd be fine if the Packers got out from under what they owe him and moved on.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 28, 2026, 06:16:30 AMA push to the ground is bad, but I'm not sure it is going to get him thrown out of the NFL, let alone off the Packers. This isn't going to be a video of Ray Rice beating the hell out of his girlfriend. Having said that, I haven't seen the video and I'm not defending his behavior, but this seems to be his first offense (correct me if I'm wrong) and he will most likely face a suspension of some sort.
I don't care about a destroyed phone.
Again, I am not condoning any of this behavior, I simply think the NFL isn't going to drop the hammer.
Having said all of this, I'd be fine if the Packers got out from under what they owe him and moved on.
Contract is paid off. They just have to take the cap hit.
MLF orchestrated this as pretense for more jet sweeps
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 07:38:58 AMMLF orchestrated this as pretense for more jet sweeps
So many jet sweeps to Skyy Moore incoming
And my understanding is why Jacobs isn't facing a domestic violence charge is because of a technicality in Wisconsin law where you have to either live with, have a child with or be married to the alleged offender. And apparently none of those are the case. (Her official address is elsewhere.)
There is absolutely zero reason for the Packers to keep him around.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 08:19:19 AMAnd my understanding is why Jacobs isn't facing a domestic violence charge is because of a technicality in Wisconsin law where you have to either live with, have a child with or be married to the alleged offender. And apparently none of those are the case. (Her official address is elsewhere.)
There is absolutely zero reason for the Packers to keep him around.
Well, winning football games is a reason.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 08:24:16 AMWell, winning football games is a reason.
They're going to need someone to block for him first.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 07:47:36 AMSo many jet sweeps to Skyy Moore incoming
Savion Williams looks a lot like Coradelle Patterson, with the one defect being he sucks at football
Is kyle McCord the second best qb in the nfc north
@wadesworld
Mike Lafleur holds leads like his brother
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 28, 2026, 09:46:05 PMIs kyle McCord the second best qb in the nfc north @wadesworld
That's Goff. Bagent 3 but could hop to 2. 9 is 4, McCord 5, McCarthy dead last.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 29, 2026, 12:04:10 AMThat's Goff. Bagent 3 but could hop to 2. 9 is 4, McCord 5, McCarthy dead last.
You can't judge any of them until they play in Bears weather
I thought the NFL had a zero tolerance policy for domestic violence?
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2026, 08:32:30 AMI thought the NFL had a zero tolerance policy for domestic violence?
Only against women, so if Enes Freedom were coaching this would have been completely different
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 29, 2026, 11:18:41 AMOnly against women, so if Enes Freedom were coaching this would have been completely different
Women? What are you, a caveperson?
Poles trading Dexter for a 5th round pick is an interesting move. I guess the DL must look way better than last year.
Unlike in baseball, the NFL salary cap prevents big market teams from stockpiling talent.
Also,
@TomPelissero
A Legend Returns: Ten-time Pro Bowl DT Aaron Donald is coming out of retirement to play for the Rams this season, sources tell @ringer
@netflixsports
Donald last played in 2023 and is 35 years old. But he's back for one more run, now alongside fellow superstar Myles Garrett.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2094153470550949928?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:02:36 PMUnlike in baseball, the NFL salary cap prevents big market teams from stockpiling talent.
Also,
@TomPelissero
A Legend Returns: Ten-time Pro Bowl DT Aaron Donald is coming out of retirement to play for the Rams this season, sources tell @ringer
@netflixsports
Donald last played in 2023 and is 35 years old. But he's back for one more run, now alongside fellow superstar Myles Garrett.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2094153470550949928?s=20
Yes adding a mid 30s guy who hasn't played the past two seasons to a team who last made the Super Bowl 5 seasons ago is incredibly similar to the World Series champion adding what had been the best closer in baseball, what had been a very good bat, and then traded for the back to back Cy Young winner.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 30, 2026, 03:11:07 PMYes adding a mid 30s guy who hasn't played the past two seasons to a team who last made the Super Bowl 5 seasons ago is incredibly similar to the World Series champion adding what had been the best closer in baseball, what had been a very good bat, and then traded for the back to back Cy Young winner.
Mostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
And if it fails, cap ramifications that will effect how the team in the next few years will be built.
I get what you're saying, but cap management is a skill. Rams wouldn't be able to build a star power team next year if this year tanks.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the MLBPA doesn't point to Donald returning to LA as an argument against a salary cap. ::)
Plus, the Rams might be allergic ti draft picks.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm thinking you're overrating current day Aaron Donald by not an insignificant amount.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 03:37:24 PMI get what you're saying, but cap management is a skill. Rams wouldn't be able to build a star power team next year if this year tanks.
Why wouldn't they? As of now, the Rams have the 4th most available cap space heading into 2027, per Spotrac. And they'd be first if Stafford retires after this season.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2027
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 04:14:33 PMWhy wouldn't they? As of now, the Rams have the 4th most available cap space heading into 2027, per Spotrac. And they'd be first if Stafford retires after this season.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2027
Then they've managed the cap well.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 04:25:13 PMThen they've managed the cap well.
They draft well too.
I wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
Quote from: MUBurrow on August 30, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
I think it depends on the draft year. But your point might be onto something. There is a large concern within NFL circles that development at the college level is as bad as it has ever been, especially with the constant roster churn.
Quote from: MUBurrow on August 30, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
That's 100 percent the Rams' strategy. I just don't think many/any other teams have matched their talent for finding impact players on days 2 and 3 of the draft (see: Nacua, Lake, Fiske, Young, Turner, etc.).
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 05:15:17 PMI think it depends on the draft year. But your point might be onto something. There is a large concern within NFL circles that development at the college level is as bad as it has ever been, especially with the constant roster churn.
This explains the Browns. ;D
Sure why not, who could have predicted he was coming out of retirement
https://x.com/tompelissero/status/2094229585101467977?s=46
From Yahoo Sports:
Donald's arrival makes LA even bigger Super Bowl favorites (+500 odds). ... Over the past 30 years, the preseason favorite has had title odds of +500 or better 20 times. All 20 of those teams failed to win the Super Bowl.
Taking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 31, 2026, 06:32:37 PMTaking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
He's announcing they're renaming Chicago after Mike Ditka
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 31, 2026, 06:32:37 PMTaking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
The event is being hosted by the "Brandon Johnson for Chicago" political committee.
Johnson hasn't yet announced whether he's running for re-election.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 31, 2026, 06:40:16 PMHe's announcing they're renaming Chicago after Mike Ditka
Ditka is the kind of person you name a continent after; not a city.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 05:27:35 PMThat's 100 percent the Rams' strategy. I just don't think many/any other teams have matched their talent for finding impact players on days 2 and 3 of the draft (see: Nacua, Lake, Fiske, Young, Turner, etc.).
Green Bay, easily.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 02, 2026, 01:20:27 PMGreen Bay, easily.
True for a long time but hasn't been true for several years in my opinion. You trade for Micah because you can't find impact players elsewhere. They've found depth and a lot of good players. I would not say they've outshot their draft position particularly well, especially along the lines, which used to be their calling card.
They've been consistently highly effective at receiver and struck gold at TE.
This post could go in the College Football thread also, but here goes.
Does every, literally every, new HC and OC have to talk about how they are "different" because they want to be a run first offense? It is mostly humorous, and a tad bit annoying. Makes me wonder if the new cutting edge coaching philosophy is grounded in "scoring more points than the other team". Of course ESPN will attribute the ground breaking concept of out scoring the other team to Sean McVay. ;D
It's always been a copycat league. The success of the Seahawks and Rams last season has brought out the copycats ... not that what either did was mega-groundbreaking.
Quote from: MU82 on September 02, 2026, 04:12:09 PMIt's always been a copycat league. The success of the Seahawks and Rams last season has brought out the copycats ... not that what either did was mega-groundbreaking.
They never copycat the players though. Just the system with players that suck.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 02, 2026, 04:06:15 PMThis post could go in the College Football thread also, but here goes.
Does every, literally every, new HC and OC have to talk about how they are "different" because they want to be a run first offense? It is mostly humorous, and a tad bit annoying. Makes me wonder if the new cutting edge coaching philosophy is grounded in "scoring more points than the other team". Of course ESPN will attribute the ground breaking concept of out scoring the other team to Sean McVay. ;D
It's in NFL bylaws that you're fired as a DC if you don't say you're going to be aggressive and fly to the football in your opening press conference
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 02, 2026, 10:03:49 PMIt's in NFL bylaws that you're fired as a DC if you don't say you're going to be aggressive and fly to the football in your opening press conference
;D ;D ;D
Goodell just signed what will likely be his final extension. Time for Kevin Warren to freshen up his resume. ;D
DK Metcalf, who calls himself a "big conspiracy theorist," thinks there is a "secret civilization" located underneath the ice of Antarctica.
Quote from: MU82 on September 08, 2026, 10:29:57 AMDK Metcalf, who calls himself a "big conspiracy theorist," thinks there is a "secret civilization" located underneath the ice of Antarctica.
The conversations him and Rodgers must have.
Someone Kirk me
https://x.com/mattschneidman/status/2097380417309380634?s=46
Beam you up?
Who?
I feel like I'm the only one carrying the flame
Excuse my ignorance but will the NFL be making insane coin from having a regular season game in Melbourne? I don't really get this. I totally understand if the players and teams are pissed about it.
Baker Mayfield: 3 years, $165M.
It's the going rate for a streaky QB who has won precious little.
Not being snarky. It's just the way it is.
Undrafted rookie Khalil Benson will be Patrick Mahomes' starting left tackle in Mahomes' first game back after an ACL tear.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 08, 2026, 07:36:46 PMExcuse my ignorance but will the NFL be making insane coin from having a regular season game in Melbourne? I don't really get this. I totally understand if the players and teams are pissed about it.
I don't think the NFL makes any decision without first checking it will make insane coin.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 09, 2026, 11:44:42 AMI don't think the NFL makes any decision without first checking it will make insane coin.
I'm boycotting all games played in countries that aren't Russia, North Korea or Venezuela.
In a disgraceful move, the Bills announced they are playing the Canadian National Anthem before games
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 09, 2026, 11:54:28 AMI'm boycotting all games played in countries that aren't Russia, North Korea or Venezuela.
I'm boycotting all games until Anders Carlson is signed. Enough is enough.
Can we just get rid of the national anthem altogether? They played it before our city softball championship this year. It's out of control.
Quote from: BM1090 on September 09, 2026, 12:59:15 PMCan we just get rid of the national anthem altogether? They played it before our city softball championship this year. It's out of control.
Ok, hoser
Quote from: BM1090 on September 09, 2026, 12:59:15 PMCan we just get rid of the national anthem altogether? They played it before our city softball championship this year. It's out of control.
OK, Mamdani.
Predictions sure to go wrong:
NFC East: Dallas
NFC North: Detroit
NFC South: New Orleans
NFC West: Seattle
Wild Cards: LA, Chicago, Green Bay
AFC East: Buffalo
AFC North: Baltimore
AFC South: Houston
AFC West: LA
Wild Cards: Cincinnati, Denver, Indianapolis
Super Bowl: Baltimore over Detroit
Quote from: Dish on September 09, 2026, 03:40:38 PMPredictions sure to go wrong:
NFC East: Dallas
NFC North: Detroit
NFC South: New Orleans
NFC West: Seattle
Wild Cards: LA, Chicago, Green Bay
AFC East: Buffalo
AFC North: Baltimore
AFC South: Houston
AFC West: LA
Wild Cards: Cincinnati, Denver, Indianapolis
Super Bowl: Baltimore over Detroit
If this holds true, the 7th seed needs to be renamed the MLF seed.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 09, 2026, 04:00:01 PMIf this holds true, the 7th seed needs to be renamed the MLF seed.
Stiffler's mom?
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 09, 2026, 04:00:01 PMIf this holds true, the 7th seed needs to be renamed the MLF seed.
The 7 seed and MLF could not be a more perfect fit.
Quote from: Dish on September 09, 2026, 03:40:38 PMPredictions sure to go wrong:
NFC East: Dallas
NFC North: Detroit
NFC South: New Orleans
NFC West: Seattle
Wild Cards: LA, Chicago, Green Bay
AFC East: Buffalo
AFC North: Baltimore
AFC South: Houston
AFC West: LA
Wild Cards: Cincinnati, Denver, Indianapolis
Super Bowl: Baltimore over Detroit
NFC East: Dallas
NFC North: Minnesota
NFC South: New Orleans
NFC West: Seattle
Wild Cards: Lions, Rams, 49ers
AFC East: New England
AFC North: Cincinnati
AFC South: Jacksonville
AFC West: Denver
Wild Card: LA, Houston, Pittsburgh
Super Bowl: Rams over Bengals
MVP: Joe Burrow
Packers: 6-11
Bears: 8-9
Buffalo missing the playoffs is a bold take, Unk.
Quote from: MU82 on September 09, 2026, 04:35:38 PMBuffalo missing the playoffs is a bold take, Unk.
Probably, given the division, but I think that window is closed
I wanted to predict the Rams to miss the playoffs, but I just don't think the NFC is strong enough otherwise to get there.
Collinsworth: You can already tell this Patriots offensive line is better than last year.
Next play: Patriots running back blown up in the backfield.
At least we had Kid Rock to lift our spirits after a terrible first half the last time these teams played.
Not sure if the injuries are due to having to travel to Australia for the first game of the year or not, but player safety hasn't really been a major concern of the NFL.
Packers will not miss Doubs.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 09, 2026, 09:12:22 PMNot sure if the injuries are due to having to travel to Australia for the first game of the year or not, but player safety hasn't really been a major concern of the NFL.
Isn't this game in Seattle? Did the players in Australia get injured before their game?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 09, 2026, 09:54:51 PMIsn't this game in Seattle? Did the players in Australia get injured before their game?
Yup. Mixed up games. My bad.
Drake Maye out here making worse decisions than his coach.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 09, 2026, 10:26:40 PMDrake Maye out here making worse decisions than his coach.
He really didn't look good out there tonight.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 09, 2026, 10:26:40 PMDrake Maye out here making worse decisions than his coach.
I told my wife before that last pass: "I hope Maye gets greedy and throws it up for grabs in the end zone!"
We were at a sports bar watching the game, and there was much merriment after that pick.
Just hoping Darnold's injury isn't too serious. X-rays showed no fracture, but more tests tomorrow.
Maye 0-12 lifetime against teams with winning records in the regular season.
Quote from: Dish on September 10, 2026, 08:36:47 AMMaye 0-12 lifetime against teams with winning records in the regular season.
He's definitely not carrying the flame
Quote from: Dish on September 10, 2026, 08:36:47 AMMaye 0-12 lifetime against teams with winning records in the regular season.
Maybe his coach is a bonehead too
Seattle is one of the many teams with a bazillionaire owner who is saving money by outfitting the stadium with artificial turf instead of grass ... but who had no problem temporarily putting in grass for the World Cup.
Would Darnold's injury have happened on a grass field? We'll never know.
Quote from: MU82 on September 10, 2026, 01:12:00 PMSeattle is one of the many teams with a bazillion owner who is saving money by outfitting the stadium with artificial turf instead of grass ... but who had no problem temporarily putting in grass for the World Cup.
Would Darnold's injury have happened on a grass field? We'll never know.
The owners already give so much. They really can't afford a playable field, too.
Because of the way the game ended with Maye's boneheaded decision/pass, Romeo Doubs' drop of the easiest catch he will ever have has been overlooked.
It wasn't quite as consequential as his immitation of a statue when he should have been recovering the Bears' onside kick last season, but it definitely contributed to New England's loss.
Aaron Rodgers just has terrible luck with women accusing him of being emotionally abusive and toxic
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2026, 05:12:25 PMAaron Rodgers just has terrible luck with women accusing him of being emotionally abusive and toxic
What did Matt LaFleur say now?
I suspect his wife will keep her thoughts to herself.
McVay has called a pretty terrible game so far
They look bad on both sides of the ball. Not inspired by this opener.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 10, 2026, 09:22:52 PMI suspect his wife will keep her thoughts to herself.
"Wife."
Quote from: SoCalEagle on September 10, 2026, 10:09:10 PMThey look bad in both sides of the ball. Not inspired by this opener.
They're missing Aaron Donald. He makes them unfair.
Huh. The unbeatable Rams.
It's been pretty clear for a while that the Rams were indifferent on this game and trying to preserve themselves physically to take on the rest of the season.
Quote from: Dish on September 10, 2026, 10:21:23 PMIt's been pretty clear for a while that the Rams were indifferent on this game and trying to preserve themselves physically to take on the rest of the season.
The Ol' Fickell strategy.
Quote from: Dish on September 10, 2026, 10:21:23 PMIt's been pretty clear for a while that the Rams were indifferent on this game and trying to preserve themselves physically to take on the rest of the season.
Yea I guess. It's a little thing, but if I was a Rams fan I'd be unnatural carnal knowledgeing livid at how McVay handled the end of the game.
First game of the season and you put in the back ups for a final drive? Ok debatable, but whatever. But you have 3:30 from your own 45 and don't even attempt to score. Run a bunch of inside runs and eat clock like you're up 40z They were inside the SF 40 with 2:30 left and didn't even let Bennett throw more than 10 yards, much less take a shot. It was apathetic BS, not even attempting to end on a positive note or get momentum going back. As stupid as flying in same day for the game
Quote from: Dish on September 10, 2026, 10:21:23 PMIt's been pretty clear for a while that the Rams were indifferent on this game and trying to preserve themselves physically to take on the rest of the season.
Hmmm. All those hard hits and celebrations. Yeah, it looked like they didn't even care.
Quote from: MU82 on September 11, 2026, 12:37:14 AMHmmm. All those hard hits and celebrations. Yeah, it looked like they didn't even care.
I agree with Dish. Players play with emotion. But the coaches certainly looked at this game like a 4th pre-season game.
Quote from: JWags85 on September 10, 2026, 10:33:01 PMYea I guess. It's a little thing, but if I was a Rams fan I'd be unnatural carnal knowledgeing livid at how McVay handled the end of the game.
First game of the season and you put in the back ups for a final drive? Ok debatable, but whatever. But you have 3:30 from your own 45 and don't even attempt to score. Run a bunch of inside runs and eat clock like you're up 40z They were inside the SF 40 with 2:30 left and didn't even let Bennett throw more than 10 yards, much less take a shot. It was apathetic BS, not even attempting to end on a positive note or get momentum going back. As stupid as flying in same day for the game
That's exactly the product the NFL wants to see show up at a foreign market. ;D
Quote from: JWags85 on September 10, 2026, 10:33:01 PMYea I guess. It's a little thing, but if I was a Rams fan I'd be unnatural carnal knowledgeing livid at how McVay handled the end of the game.
First game of the season and you put in the back ups for a final drive? Ok debatable, but whatever. But you have 3:30 from your own 45 and don't even attempt to score. Run a bunch of inside runs and eat clock like you're up 40z They were inside the SF 40 with 2:30 left and didn't even let Bennett throw more than 10 yards, much less take a shot. It was apathetic BS, not even attempting to end on a positive note or get momentum going back. As stupid as flying in same day for the game
The NBA's load management comes to the NFL?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 11, 2026, 06:09:41 AMThe NBA's load management comes to the NFL?
It has for the last decade plus
Garrett had the lowest snap count last night since his rookie year. Yes, he said he's injured postgame.
Donald didn't bother to make the trip.
Puka's snap count was 25% less than any game from last season.
Stafford came out with 3 plus minutes left, down 20. Rams had the ball at their own 46, all 3 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning.
Rams next 3 games: home Monday night against Giants, short week in altitude at Denver, cross country 10am Pacific at Philly.
Their first four games are in four different time zones, none of which are at 1pm Pacific.
I absolutely believe the coaching staff and front office were completely indifferent about the result in Melbourne.
It's kind of surprising how much of the city of Los Angeles these guys have been able to embody.
Additionally, McVay is a fantastic coach, brilliant guy, outside the box thinker. This is all established and accepted, but I'd really LOVE to see the data points that they specifically used to make their decision for travel planning and "staying on Pacific time" for the game.
I, and various others on this board, have done plenty of international travel. Ive made the 14+ hour flights across the Pacific over 30 times and have been fortunate enough to do many of those in a lie flat seat. Never in my life have I ever landed on those flights and felt like I could just shift and still operate on a previous time zone.
Ive gotten very good at beating jet lag to Asia. Ive found that landing in the early evening, falling asleep whenever my body needs to, waking up in the middle of the night like you do and then knocking yourself back out with some sort of sleep aid to get back to "normal" sleep that first night and waking up however many hours later in the morning on local time gives me the most seamless experience. And that just makes me refreshed and functional for the first day. I feel most "myself" by day 2. I might not have the nodding off while standing, brain fog, and malaise of jet lag, but I still am not completely energized and 100% off the rip.
So the idea that these guys were going to just land and operate at peak like they were still in LA and just had a different sort of normal night's rest on the plane over seems to defy logic and belief.
But to Dish's point, if they were punting this game, no pun intended, then maybe it makes more sense. 3 years ago I took a mileage run/impromptu quick trip to Singapore right before Christmas. Landed on Monday night, left on Wednesday night. Never adapted to local time. Obviously couldn't totally remain on EST, but kind of just floated. When I got back to the US, I was kind of foggy for a day, more like after a day or two of bad sleep rather than jet lag, and then was back to normal. So in that regard, their travel schedule could benefit them more moving forward than the re-adjustment the Niners will undertake.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 11, 2026, 07:01:19 AMIt has for the last decade plus
I have no idea what the answer to this question is, but are NFL players sitting out 30% of games? I know the NBA players have to play 80% of games to be MVP, etc eligible because 70%- was becoming normal, and they were missing due to unsubstantiated reasons or simply rest.
Of course the NFL injury rate is way way higher than other sports, but I didn't realize that players/teams were employing load management to the same degree as the NBA.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 11, 2026, 08:58:25 AMI have no idea what the answer to this question is, but are NFL players sitting out 30% of games? I know the NBA players have to play 80% of games to be MVP, etc eligible because 70%- was becoming normal, and they were missing due to unsubstantiated reasons or simply rest.
Of course the NFL injury rate is way way higher than other sports, but I didn't realize that players/teams were employing load management to the same degree as the NBA.
The Packers literally punted on the end of the season last year for two weeks
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 11, 2026, 08:59:09 AMThe Packers literally punted on the end of the season last year for two weeks
But to "fail the NBA quota" they'd need to "punt" on 4 games.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 11, 2026, 09:02:50 AMBut to "fail the NBA quota" they'd need to "punt" on 4 games.
Cool.
A much smaller scale, but MLF seems to always have the Packers travel to California later in the week than normal. Maybe a philosophy of that Coaching Tree.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 11, 2026, 09:55:50 AMA much smaller scale, but MLF seems to always have the Packers travel to California later in the week than normal. Maybe a philosophy of that Coaching Tree.
Everyone is different, but I don't put a ton of emphasis/weight on the difficulties of Midwest/East Coast teams playing in the West. Unless you're playing a SNF/MNF game in California, a 1PM kickoff is no different than 3/4PM back at home.
I totally get it the other way, where a noon start is 9AM back home, could be trickier. But especially for a Central time team, I don't see any real difficulties.
Quote from: Dish on September 11, 2026, 08:00:55 AMGarrett had the lowest snap count last night since his rookie year. Yes, he said he's injured postgame.
Donald didn't bother to make the trip.
Puka's snap count was 25% less than any game from last season.
Stafford came out with 3 plus minutes left, down 20. Rams had the ball at their own 46, all 3 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning.
Rams next 3 games: home Monday night against Giants, short week in altitude at Denver, cross country 10am Pacific at Philly.
Their first four games are in four different time zones, none of which are at 1pm Pacific.
I absolutely believe the coaching staff and front office were completely indifferent about the result in Melbourne.
I agree, they seem indifferent, but it doesn't make a ton of sense. Beyond this being a divisional game, this is the one game (outside a bye week) when you have the advantage of time for additional prep.
Not sure that I buy the idea that not spending multiple days in Australia would make things easier in Week 2. It's still going to be a challenge for both teams to get ready next week. However, now the Rams are 0-1.
In 2023 & 2024, the Rams started off very slow, but got hot in Nov. & Dec. to make the playoffs. I understand if McVay feels confident they can do the same. They seem pissed about playing in Melbourne and there's seemly a hubris there that doesn't care if they get off to a slow start. That's a dangerous game. Things can fall apart very quick.
Quote from: RJax55 on September 11, 2026, 10:44:16 AMI agree, they seem indifferent, but it doesn't make a ton of sense. Beyond this being a divisional game, this is the one game (outside a bye week) when you have the advantage of time for additional prep.
Not sure that I buy the idea was that not spending multiple days in Australia would make things easier in Week 2. It's still going to be a challenge for both teams to get ready next week. However, now the Rams are 0-1.
In 2023 & 2024, the Rams started off very slow, but got hot in Nov. & Dec. to make the playoffs. I understand if McVay feels confident they can do the same. They seem pissed about playing in Melbourne and there's seemly a hubris there that doesn't care if they get off to a slow start. That's a dangerous game. Things can't fall apart very quick.
Exactly. It is extremely bad form. It could be a playoff decider, home field advantage decider, any number of tie breakers, and it is the first game of the year.
Hopefully, this is just who the Rams are this year.
Moral of the story, making football teams fly 16 hours to play one game is dumb.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 11, 2026, 11:07:04 AMMoral of the story, making football teams fly 16 hours to play one game is dumb.
I tend to agree with this.
I don't think the international games as a whole are bad. London/Madrid/Berlin/Munich aren't that bad when structured around bye weeks or extended weeks. Mexico City is obviously not a big deal and even the Brazil games are reasonable cause you're not shifting time zones more than a standard road game.
But Australia or Asia (such as if they decide to explore Japan (which loves football)) is just a mess and a legitimately unfair burden.
Still think McVay acted like a baby though.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 11, 2026, 10:49:23 AMExactly. It is extremely bad form. It could be a playoff decider, home field advantage decider, any number of tie breakers, and it is the first game of the year.
Hopefully, this is just who the Rams are this year.
Yup. I wonder how many losses this season will be because they didn't particularly care.
As for Stafford being removed with the team down 20 and 3:29 to play ... that was one of the few smart things McVay did yesterday. The last thing the Rams needed was for their QB to get hurt playing in garbage time of an apparently meaningless game.
Meanwhile, in other NFC West news ...
Mike Macdonald says Sam Darnold's hip injury is "more like a muscle thing." Darnold is expected back, but "in my mind, I'm kind of thinking Drew (Lock) is gonna play" the next game, Sept. 20 at Arizona.
Quote from: Dish on September 11, 2026, 08:00:55 AMGarrett had the lowest snap count last night since his rookie year. Yes, he said he's injured postgame.
Donald didn't bother to make the trip.
Puka's snap count was 25% less than any game from last season.
Stafford came out with 3 plus minutes left, down 20. Rams had the ball at their own 46, all 3 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning.
Rams next 3 games: home Monday night against Giants, short week in altitude at Denver, cross country 10am Pacific at Philly.
Their first four games are in four different time zones, none of which are at 1pm Pacific.
I absolutely believe the coaching staff and front office were completely indifferent about the result in Melbourne.
Yep. They viewed it as an extra preseason game. The first tell was their decision to fly in late.
In addition to the three interceptions - each being dopier than the one before - it was a poorly thrown pass by Maye that directly led to the ankle injury that will sideline Brown for at least a month.
Sooner Matt LaFleur is out of Green Bay, the better. What an a-hole
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 11, 2026, 04:26:59 PMSooner Matt LaFleur is out of Green Bay, the better. What an a-hole
Would be an unfortunate situation
You have to make ben johnson say no
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 11, 2026, 04:26:59 PMSooner Matt LaFleur is out of Green Bay, the better. What an a-hole
It's pretty incredible that he had months to come up with a response to a question he knows he would eventually would be asked...and THAT is what he says...
Quote from: The Sultan on September 12, 2026, 03:48:17 AMIt's pretty incredible that he had months to come up with a response to a question he knows he would eventually would be asked...and THAT is what he says...
Mediocre coach, worse person.
Myles Garrett on IR. Vaccine claims another.
Da 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻!!!
Good one, Ben
WTF are the Bears doing?? On their own 20???????
Please do not boo Deshaun Watson.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 13, 2026, 01:34:01 PMPlease do not boo Deshaun Watson.
They need to start Sanders. I doubt he ends up being good, but they were a lot better with him last year than Gabriel. Watson sucks.
And at least then if he struggles you get a top 5 pick and grab a QB next year.
50 burger 👀
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 13, 2026, 03:14:39 PMImagine if it was Bears weather.
They might be able to stop someone in Bears weather.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 13, 2026, 03:19:41 PMThey might be able to stop someone in Bears weather.
Maybe. Don't bet on it.
Saints signed the wrong Carlson.
Has anyone ever seen Smack and Anders in the same room?
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 13, 2026, 03:33:46 PMSaints signed the wrong Carlson.
Has anyone ever seen Smack and Anders in the same room?
Smack needs to work on getting more air under it. He's lucky that was only a 59 yard attempt, he would have missed it if it was 70 yards.
The stunned silence in Mequon is deafening. They must not know what to do after that kick.
Is the Panthers' defense that bad?
I don't know what Bullard is supposed to do there.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 13, 2026, 03:58:45 PMI don't know what Bullard is supposed to do there.
Agreed. He went low, and went low before the QB went low. It was the QB that put himself in position for a possible helmet to helmet hit, Bullard was trying to avoid it.
It was more of a, that looked bad and he's injured and helmet came off, so throw a flag, more than it was an obvious penalty. They ignored a helmet to helmet hit on Love.
Quote from: forgetful on September 13, 2026, 04:05:29 PMAgreed. He went low, and went low before the QB went low. It was the QB that put himself in position for a possible helmet to helmet hit, Bullard was trying to avoid it.
It was more of a, that looked bad and he's injured and helmet came off, so throw a flag, more than it was an obvious penalty. They ignored a helmet to helmet hit on Love.
They'll always err on the side of caution on those.
Quote from: forgetful on September 13, 2026, 04:05:29 PMAgreed. He went low, and went low before the QB went low. It was the QB that put himself in position for a possible helmet to helmet hit, Bullard was trying to avoid it.
It was more of a, that looked bad and he's injured and helmet came off, so throw a flag, more than it was an obvious penalty. They ignored a helmet to helmet hit on Love.
Austin Booker agrees with this analysis.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 13, 2026, 04:07:33 PMThey'll always err on the side of caution on those.
Agreed. Not bothered by the call, and live I would have thrown a flag, just not sure what the defender can do differently. And when in slo-mo, you see a different perspective.
Quote from: Dish on September 13, 2026, 04:07:54 PMAustin Booker agrees with this analysis.
His was pretty different. If you are referencing his hit on Love, that was pretty textbook leading with the crown of the helmet and going high.
I hope everyone has someone who loves them as much as MLF loves establishing the run.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 13, 2026, 04:41:15 PMI hope everyone has someone who loves them as much as MLF loves establishing the run.
Especially with an o-line that can't block a fire hydrant
Here they are again dominating play, with a drive starting on the 35, and a coach who plays it conservative instead of going for the kill.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 13, 2026, 04:51:37 PMHere they are again dominating play, with a drive starting on the 35, and a coach who plays it conservative instead of going for the kill.
His best player is the QB. Let him play
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 13, 2026, 05:00:34 PMHis best player is the QB. Let him play
That's because they moronically cut their previous best player. So bit asterisk on that superlative.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 13, 2026, 04:51:37 PMHere they are again dominating play, with a drive starting on the 35, and a coach who plays it conservative instead of going for the kill.
That 3rd and 11 play call was so soft.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 13, 2026, 05:27:43 PMThat 3rd and 11 play call was so soft.
The Packers can't block anything. Third and long in negative territory feels like it's asking for trouble
We're not quite there yet, but Jim Harbaugh's seat is starting to get warm.
I'm dying.
Is a "virtual measurement" a new thing? Ty.
I'm all for going for it, but the Packers did not win the line of scrimmage all game. Not sure why they thought that'd be the first.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 13, 2026, 06:02:24 PMI'm all for going for it, but the Packers did not win the line of scrimmage all game. Not sure why they thought that'd be the first.
im starting to think LaFluer is a moron
JJ and Nantz nailed it on the head how dumb that play call was.
First game of the season but nothing is looking different about this team.
Ok, if that is Roughing the Passer, than there were 10 of them uncalled for hits on Love this game.
That was a bad call.
Some of these calls.....
All three saving calls were highly questionable at best.
Calls that haven't been being called all game, and definitely none of those against the Vikings.
In honor of 9/11, Hochuli hijacking this game.
Might have been bad calls but the Vikings finished with a TD. The Packers would have been kicking a FG
I could understand the illegal contact, but the last two? Yikes.
As promised all offseason, the Packers look much more disciplined and ready to finish games this year.
Looks like a MLF coached team.
Need to establish the run now
Wow. Would this constitute a meltdown?
I guess that answered my question. Double Wow.
I am out, wake me up when LeFluer gets fired. Between the Badgers and Packers, there is no reason to watch football teams in Wisconsin.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 13, 2026, 06:16:16 PMI could understand the illegal contact, but the last two? Yikes.
Frustrating, but looks like in the end it doesn't really matter. The Pack shat themselves more than the woman who won the Beijing Hyrox race.
Feeling overly optimistic about my 6-11 Packers prediction.
Didn't have Carson Wentz thumping the Packers on my Week 1 bingo card.
Lafleur still has no idea how to coach with a lead and can't instill any discipline in his defense.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 13, 2026, 06:27:53 PMFeeling overly optimistic about my 6-11 Packers prediction.
Eh they'll be fine.
Fine as in right around .500 and 7th or 8th in the NFC.
Lafleur gotta go
Good (Vi)king Wentz's toss won out
O'er the beasts of Bay Green
Vintage LaFleur.
We've seen this movie before.
Quote from: Jockey on September 13, 2026, 06:34:57 PMVintage LaFleur.
We've seen this movie before.
I think my prediction is a a Bears loss at home gets him fired.
Maybe the Packers should invest in NFL caliber offensive linemen.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 13, 2026, 06:35:42 PMI think my prediction is a a Bears loss at home gets him fired.
Didn't he just sign a new contract?
Quote from: Dish on September 13, 2026, 06:30:44 PMDidn't have Carson Wentz thumping the Packers on my Week 1 bingo card.
He didn't. The Packers thumped themselves
Does MLF know you can make adjustments at halftime?
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Lafluer coaching a game with the lead in the second half is a complete clown show.
He needs to go.
Kinda wonder if Ben Johnson broke him.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 13, 2026, 06:49:02 PMKinda wonder if Ben Johnson broke him.
He's always been this guy.
Week one everyone. Long way to go.
I freaked out the first week a few years ago, and predicted the Bears would win 3 games. (They won 3 games :o )
I'm so tired of Matt lefleur sucking the joy out of wat hung football.
Probably Week 1 overreaction, but the Justin Herbert-Mike McDaniel pairing didn't exactly live up to the hype.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 13, 2026, 07:59:41 PMProbably Week 1 overreaction, but the Justin Herbert-Mike McDaniel pairing didn't exactly live up to the hype.
If they lose at home to your Raiders next week, look out below.
at Buffalo
at Seattle
Denver
at KC
at Rams
Houston
at Baltimore
Quote from: Dish on September 13, 2026, 08:29:32 PMIf they lose at home to your Raiders next week, look out below.
at Buffalo
at Seattle
Denver
at KC
at Rams
Houston
at Baltimore
That's brutal.
Quote from: PointWarrior on September 13, 2026, 06:26:31 PMI am out, wake me up when LeFluer gets fired. Between the Badgers and Packers, there is no reason to watch football teams in Wisconsin.
Come on over to the Dark Side, my friend. Not only don't the Seahawks lose to backup QBs, they win when they have to use one themselves.
Myles Garrett on the 4-game IL for the SuperDuperTeam that sits alone in last place in the NFC West.
When you have a chance to bring John Harbaugh in as your coach, you definitely need to extend Matt LaFleur. At least his beard will be perfectly trimmed and his hair will probably have been cut Sunday morning each week while every other NFCN coach alphas him.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 10:38:23 AMWhen you have a chance to bring John Harbaugh in as your coach, you definitely need to extend Matt LaFleur. At least his beard will be perfectly trimmed and his hair will probably have been cut Sunday morning each week while every other NFCN coach alphas him.
The argument in firing him was, another team would immediately hire him. The teams hiring coaches last year were amongst the worst franchises in football the past decade or so. I'm not sure that was the ringing endorsement people made it out to be.
The Ravens were in this cycle but they would not have hired him. I'm confident of that. An argument can be made the Steelers are a fine organization but they've been stuck in mediocrity this decade. They could have hired him, I suppose, but my general point stands.
Just because a bad organization would hire him, doesn't mean you keep him.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 14, 2026, 10:41:37 AMThe argument in firing him was, another team would immediately hire him. The teams hiring coaches last year were amongst the worst franchises in football the past decade or so. I'm not sure that was the ringing endorsement people made it out to be.
The Ravens were in this cycle but they would not have hired him. I'm confident of that. An argument can be made the Steelers are a fine organization but they've been stuck in mediocrity this decade. They could have hired him, I suppose, but my general point stands.
Just because a bad organization would hire him, doesn't mean you keep him.
If I were a bottom tier organization looking to get competent, I'd hire MLF. But when it's time to win Playoff games, he might be the last coach I'd pick in the entire NFL.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 10:46:01 AMIf I were a bottom tier organization looking to get competent, I'd hire MLF. But when it's time to win Playoff games, he might be the last coach I'd pick in the entire NFL.
He's done in GB. Those that don't see it or believe it are deluding themselves. That locker room will be lost sooner than later
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 10:38:23 AMWhen you have a chance to bring John Harbaugh in as your coach, you definitely need to extend Matt LaFleur. At least his beard will be perfectly trimmed and his hair will probably have been cut Sunday morning each week while every other NFCN coach alphas him.
Harbaugh never was coming to Green Bay, because Gutekunst was never going to give a coach final say over personnel decisions like he has in New York.
My Giants beat Dallas. Who woulda thunk it?
Quote from: Pakuni on September 14, 2026, 11:02:03 AMHarbaugh never was coming to Green Bay, because Gutekunst was never going to give a coach final say over personnel decisions like he has in New York.
That's likely true. But I think I'd rather have Harbaugh making personnel decisions over Gutey. What Gutey has done to the OL alone is enough to move on from him, in my opinion. Beyond that, Parsons is a star, McKinney is a top tier safety (but how important is that?), Kraft is a star, and Love is good. Not much to be excited about outside of those guys. Just a lot of positions that are mediocre or straight up bad.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 11:06:56 AMThat's likely true. But I think I'd rather have Harbaugh making personnel decisions over Gutey. What Gutey has done to the OL alone is enough to move on from him, in my opinion. Beyond that, Parsons is a star, McKinney is a top tier safety (but how important is that?), Kraft is a star, and Love is good. Not much to be excited about outside of those guys. Just a lot of positions that are mediocre or straight up bad.
I think Watson, Wyatt, Bako-Bewele, and Cooper all deserve to be in at least the good category. There are also some young players who we don't have enough data on...but other than those quibbles, I think you're right...well except for your obvious omission of the Packer's best player.
They hired the internal candidate for president who had all last season to view the team's performance, and decided to retain both guys. MLF could be gone if the bottom falls out, but I would be shocked if Gutey is gone after this season.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 11:06:56 AMThat's likely true. But I think I'd rather have Harbaugh making personnel decisions over Gutey. What Gutey has done to the OL alone is enough to move on from him, in my opinion. Beyond that, Parsons is a star, McKinney is a top tier safety (but how important is that?), Kraft is a star, and Love is good. Not much to be excited about outside of those guys. Just a lot of positions that are mediocre or straight up bad.
Oh, yeah, I'm not saying a team should pick Gutey over Harbaugh. I just don't think he was going to hire a guy that he'd ultimately be subservient to. And I don't think the ownership structure in Green Bay would impose it on him like the Giants imposed it on Joe Schoen.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 14, 2026, 11:36:32 AMOh, yeah, I'm not saying a team should pick Gutey over Harbaugh. I just don't think he was going to hire a guy that he'd ultimately be subservient to. And I don't think the ownership structure in Green Bay would impose it on him like the Giants imposed it on Joe Schoen.
GB's fidelity to the power structure has served them well. Obviously, the right people need to be in the right positions, but they have a very good track record to evidence it is a winning organizational design.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 14, 2026, 11:02:03 AMHarbaugh never was coming to Green Bay, because Gutekunst was never going to give a coach final say over personnel decisions like he has in New York.
Correct, but wouldn't have been the guy I'd have targeted anyway.
This is some somber reading
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/green-bay-packers-analysis/86358/you-cannot-overstate-how-bad-the-packers-offensive-line-was-on-sunday
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 14, 2026, 11:46:10 AMGB's fidelity to the power structure has served them well. Obviously, the right people need to be in the right positions, but they have a very good track record to evidence it is a winning organizational design.
They also have a track record of holding onto coaches and GMs when it is clear that they had topped out.
I mean, I don't think they have actually made a bold front office move since Bob Harlan brought Ted Thompson in as GM and then next year when they fired Mike Sherman. That was 21 years ago.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 14, 2026, 12:39:18 PMThey also have a track record of holding onto coaches and GMs when it is clear that they had topped out.
I mean, I don't think they have actually made a bold front office move since Bob Harlan brought Ted Thompson in as GM and then next year when they fired Mike Sherman. That was 21 years ago.
They've gotten fat and lazy and no one wants to admit it. Institutional rot. They've coasted on years of divisional ineptitude. They've usually had only 1 team to worry about most years. Now? The other 3 organizations appear to be competently run now and won't be pushovers.
I don't think its institutional rot as much as it is an organization that tends to be run very conservatively due to its structure. The board is run by a bunch of nice Green Bay businessmen who are just happy to be there, and they hire guys like Mark Murphy, who are perfectly competant, but whose best attributes are that they are "steady."
They should have moved heaven and earth to get John Schneider as president, but that's just not their style. Ed Policy is no doubt a good dude, but there is nothing "bold" about what is going on there.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 14, 2026, 01:14:28 PMI don't think its institutional rot as much as it is an organization that tends to be run very conservatively due to its structure. The board is run by a bunch of nice Green Bay businessmen who are just happy to be there, and they hire guys like Mark Murphy, who are perfectly competant, but whose best attributes are that they are "steady."
They should have moved heaven and earth to get John Schneider as president, but that's just not their style. Ed Policy is no doubt a good dude, but there is nothing "bold" about what is going on there.
I have my doubts Ed Policy is a good dude, but that's another story. Hope he makes a bad visit to Youngstown
From The Athletic:
Green Bay, which lost Sunday after allowing 22 fourth-quarter points, has a league-worst 7-5 record (.583) since the start of last season when leading by at least nine points in second halves. The rest of the league has a 204-23 (.899) record in those games, counting playoffs. That includes a combined 35-0 for Buffalo, Seattle and San Francisco.
MLF is Craig Counsell if Craig got a haircut and beard trim 30 minutes before every game.
Refs already helping Kansas City.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 14, 2026, 07:31:49 PMRefs already helping Kansas City.
chiefs are undefeated when clay Martin refs their game.
My bold prediction that Jadarian Price - the rookie RB the Seahawks drafted to replace Kenneth Walker - would have a better season than Walker would in KC ... is already looking brilliant.
I'm glad the NFL and the Swifts could come to an agreement after last year's hiatus that she'd start showing her face again and the chiefs would start getting all the calls again.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 11:06:56 AMThat's likely true. But I think I'd rather have Harbaugh making personnel decisions over Gutey. What Gutey has done to the OL alone is enough to move on from him, in my opinion. Beyond that, Parsons is a star, McKinney is a top tier safety (but how important is that?), Kraft is a star, and Love is good. Not much to be excited about outside of those guys. Just a lot of positions that are mediocre or straight up bad.
Tyrod Taylor is a star
Quote from: wadesworld on September 14, 2026, 05:45:04 PMMLF is Craig Counsell if Craig got a haircut and beard trim 30 minutes before every game.
Packers have the Cubs relievers too
Robert Kraft's foray into cancel culture is going well
No games today? And you call this America?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 15, 2026, 02:51:45 PMRobert Kraft's foray into cancel culture is going well
Few men in America have more moral standing than Mr. Kraft.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 15, 2026, 05:31:50 PMFew men in America have more moral standing than Mr. Kraft.
He'd never prostitute himself, but he can massage any situation.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 15, 2026, 05:31:50 PMFew men in America have more moral standing than Mr. Kraft.
Interestingly, some of his fellow stadium owners seem fine letting Kanye play their venues.
Hey all you Catholics, Jesus was a Jew.
Quote from: MU82 on September 15, 2026, 05:54:23 PMHe'd never prostitute himself, but he can massage any situation.
Take this to the pickleball thread plz
Only 25.7 million viewers watched the Giants-Cowboys game. Billions tuned out because of Bad Bunny. Go woke, go broke.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 15, 2026, 08:03:14 PMOnly 25.7 million viewers watched the Giants-Cowboys game. Billions tuned out because of Bad Bunny. Go woke, go broke.
I've been boycotting since Kaepernick disrespected the troops.
Oh, btw.. SKOL VIKINGS! Great opener. Was fun to watch the end of that game.
Hopefully Chicago's defense continues to absolutely suck this weekend.
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 15, 2026, 08:25:44 PMOh, btw.. SKOL VIKINGS! Great opener. Was fun to watch the end of that game.
Hopefully Chicago's defense continues to absolutely suck this weekend.
Brian Flores vs Ben Johnson is gonna be really unnatural carnal knowledgeing fun.
Quote from: Jay Bee on September 15, 2026, 08:25:44 PMOh, btw.. SKOL VIKINGS! Great opener. Was fun to watch the end of that game.
Hopefully Chicago's defense continues to absolutely suck this weekend.
The Bear's lack of pass rush doesn't help a secondary that sorely needs help. >:(
As expected, Darnold will not play Sunday.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 15, 2026, 08:11:29 PMI've been boycotting since Kaepernick disrespected the troops.
Speaking of Kaep. I didn't realize he was still doing the "I could still play, and am better than XX starting QBs thing."
Quote from: MU_B on September 17, 2026, 08:09:05 AMSpeaking of Kaep. I didn't realize he was still doing the "I could still play, and am better than XX starting QBs thing."
He has proven that he doesn't want to play in the NFL. I get that, as evidenced by a number of players who had contracts and could play but stepped away from the game. I believe his passion for his causes is real, but his excuses for not returning to football are not. He's just like every other human, and is not always authentic.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 09:08:47 AMHe has proven that he doesn't want to play in the NFL. I get that, as evidenced by a number of players who had contracts and could play but stepped away from the game. I believe his passion for his causes is real, but his excuses for not returning to football are not. He's just like every other human, and is not always authentic.
Sure, but the real thing is he is 38 and hasn't played in the NFL for a decade. Not trying to take away from his activism, but yeah...
Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 17, 2026, 09:21:09 AMSure, but the real thing is he is 38 and hasn't played in the NFL for a decade. Not trying to take away from his activism, but yeah...
He's done enough damage to the NFL. Millions have boycotted the league because of him and they've never recovered from losing the racist snowflake demographic
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 09:08:47 AMHe has proven that he doesn't want to play in the NFL. I get that, as evidenced by a number of players who had contracts and could play but stepped away from the game. I believe his passion for his causes is real, but his excuses for not returning to football are not. He's just like every other human, and is not always authentic.
I'm honestly not sure what you're getting at, how has he proven that he doesn't want to play in the NFL?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 17, 2026, 09:32:07 AMHe's done enough damage to the NFL. Millions have boycotted the league because of him and they've never recovered from losing the racist snowflake demographic
I take offense to this.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 17, 2026, 10:48:29 AMI'm honestly not sure what you're getting at, how has he proven that he doesn't want to play in the NFL?
I don't have time to look it all up, but Stephen A Smith (if you trust him) documented the tryouts and contracts he has turned down.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 12:36:50 PMI don't have time to look it all up, but Stephen A Smith (if you trust him) documented the tryouts and contracts he has turned down.
As far as I can tell, Stephen A Smith didn't document any contracts that Kaepernick has turned down. He made a comment in 2019 that that the NFL had created a unique waiver that would have allowed Kaepernick to participate in a single workout (that he alleged multiple teams were planning to attend) despite Kaepernick's ongoing lawsuit against the NFL. Kaepernick's legal team took issue with the waiver. Whether those issues were legitimate or cover, I have no idea.
Since making that comment in 2019, Smith has repeatedly stated that he believes Kaepernick was blackballed.
I've never fact checked it but there's a story that the ravens wanted to sign him when no one else did and Karl's gf/wife made a post calling Ray Lewis an Uncle Tom and their owner a slave owner so yeah he was never willing to take any role that wasn't a starter.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 17, 2026, 01:56:51 PMI've never fact checked it but there's a story that the ravens wanted to sign him when no one else did and Karl's gf/wife made a post calling Ray Lewis an Uncle Tom and their owner a slave owner so yeah he was never willing to take any role that wasn't a starter.
This doesn't deserve the space we are giving it, but Stephen A on his radio show talk at some length about him turning down at least one contract and multiple tryouts. I believe the Broncos were one team. He verifiably opted out of his last 49er contract.
I could be wrong but it appeared that he was more passionate about social causes than football, which many would view as a positive.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 02:15:58 PMThis doesn't deserve the space we are giving it, but Stephen A on his radio show talk at some length about him turning down at least one contract and multiple tryouts. I believe the Broncos were one team. He verifiably opted out of his last 49er contract.
I could be wrong but it appeared that he was more passionate about social causes than football, which many would view as a positive.
The fact you listen to Stephen A's radio show leads me to wonder if you are actually concussed and are recalling the discussion correctly. :D
Fake news, Macdonald said they had great news on Darnold 30 minutes after the game...
Quote from: MU82 on September 16, 2026, 07:26:00 PMAs expected, Darnold will not play Sunday.
Quote from: PointWarrior on September 17, 2026, 03:02:57 PMFake news, Macdonald said they had great news on Darnold 30 minutes after the game...
Imagine a coach not being honest about injuries
I think he opted out because they were going to cut him. Shanahan was coming in and the plan was to use another QB that fit his scheme.
If I remember right, he didn't want to sign somewhere as a backup. Since no one signed him as a starter he sat out. I remember him being hurt his last year in SF, so some thought that played a role. I think there were some pretty bad starting QBs that year.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 02:15:58 PMThis doesn't deserve the space we are giving it, but Stephen A on his radio show talk at some length about him turning down at least one contract and multiple tryouts. I believe the Broncos were one team. He verifiably opted out of his last 49er contract.
I could be wrong but it appeared that he was more passionate about social causes than football, which many would view as a positive.
He didn't turn down a contract with the Broncos. The Broncos attempted to trade the 49ers for Kaepernick, but the trade would have required Kaepernick to reduce his salary and he declined. Notably, this happened during the summer of 2016, Kaepernick didn't start kneeling until September 2016.
A couple of years later, John Elway publicly stated that the Broncos would not pursue signing Kaepernick because "he had a chance to be here. We offered him a contract and he didn't take it" referring to the 2016 trade. Since then, many have ran with Elway's comments as proof that Kaepernick turned down contracts after he started kneeling...while ignoring that the contract being referenced was declined before the kneeling started.
I missed the memo that the Lions acquired the Packers OL coach this week
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 17, 2026, 04:31:07 PMHe didn't turn down a contract with the Broncos. The Broncos attempted to trade the 49ers for Kaepernick, but the trade would have required Kaepernick to reduce his salary and he declined. Notably, this happened during the summer of 2016, Kaepernick didn't start kneeling until September 2016.
A couple of years later, John Elway publicly stated that the Broncos would not pursue signing Kaepernick because "he had a chance to be here. We offered him a contract and he didn't take it" referring to the 2016 trade. Since then, many have ran with Elway's comments as proof that Kaepernick turned down contracts after he started kneeling...while ignoring that the contract being referenced was declined before the kneeling started.
Fair enough. Now Stephen A is on my $#it list.
The NFC North is basically going to be arena football this year.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 17, 2026, 08:09:42 PMThe NFC North is basically going to be arena football this year.
Boy, how times have changed. It's a good thing, right?
Lion's D is as suspect as the Bear's.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 17, 2026, 08:17:28 PMBoy, how times have changed. It's a good thing, right?
Pretty amazing that at the same time, in the same season, you have the historically hapless Lions and the "get off the bus running (mostly cause we don't have a competent QB)" grinding Bear Weather Chicago Bears...both as teams who can give teams 40-50 points on any given Sunday. And even more so that the Bears can do so because they took the Lions offensive genius.
Quote from: JWags85 on September 17, 2026, 10:46:11 PMPretty amazing that at the same time, in the same season, you have the historically hapless Lions and the "get off the bus running (mostly cause we don't have a competent QB)" grinding Bear Weather Chicago Bears...both as teams who can give teams 40-50 points on any given Sunday. And even more so that the Bears can do so because they took the Lions offensive genius.
And the Packers' D gave up the most points in the division week 1. Crazy.
So, will the Ryan family end up owning the Bears in the next couple of years...you know...when they open their new stadium in Arlington Heights?
Quote from: The Sultan on September 18, 2026, 12:25:30 PMSo, will the Ryan family end up owning the Bears in the next couple of years...you know...when they open their new stadium in Arlington Heights?
I have no idea how or why this story has the legs it has. Bears reps have been meeting regularly with the state for months behind the scenes.
Well, the start of the Packers day has been a disaster
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 20, 2026, 12:19:43 PMWell, the start of the Packers day has been a disaster
Give Woody Johnson and the owners of MetLife Stadium the NYC CEO treatment
Find someone who loves you as much as the Packers defense loves keeping drives alive with stupid penalties.
Most likely the dumbest team in the league.
Apparently any defender from Georgia who wears #7 is going to be a dumbass.
Badly coached, stupid, & undisciplined team.
Quote from: Jockey on September 20, 2026, 12:26:15 PMBadly coached, stupid, & undisciplined team.
Can't fire LaFleur. The Browns would hire him.
Aaron Glenn is going to outcoach us isn't he?
Time to establish the run
The Bears are having significant issues early in this game.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 20, 2026, 12:48:48 PMThe Bears are having significant issues early in this game.
They might have massive diarrhea
Keisean Nixon is the biggest terrorist NYC has seen in a long time
Banner drive for pro bowler Nixon
Just an atrocious half for the Bears. Horrible. Sloppy, undisciplined, garbage. I thought Ben Johnson was an offensive genius? They have to wake the H up. The O-line has been abysmal.
81
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 20, 2026, 01:30:54 PMJust an atrocious half for the Bears. Horrible. Sloppy, undisciplined, garbage. I thought Ben Johnson was an offensive genius? They have to wake the H up. The O-line has been abysmal.
This is how NFC North football is supposed to be played.
Bears going to have more penalties than points today.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 20, 2026, 01:30:54 PMJust an atrocious half for the Bears. Horrible. Sloppy, undisciplined, garbage. I thought Ben Johnson was an offensive genius? They have to wake the H up. The O-line has been abysmal.
Discouraging because it's pretty close to Bears weather
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 02:06:49 PMBears going to have more penalties than points today.
So what? The Packers may have twice as many.
Well, at least we won't have to worry about blowing many late leads.
Sure 0-2 is bad but what would be worse is if the run wasn't established.
That'll do it. Clean house.
That could end the season for the Bears. Ouch.
Sure seems like Caleb's achilles just went boom.
Caleb right torn Achilles.
RIP bears season
That was also a QB run call 1st and goal from the 5. Why??? In these conditions? Totally inexcusable.
Guess we'll find out how good of a coach Ben Johnson really is.
Fox is terrible for the 2nd week in a row.
Packers video with Bears/vikings audio.
Hegseth must have taken over the helm for Fox Sports.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 20, 2026, 02:44:47 PMGuess we'll find out how good of a coach Ben Johnson really is.
Didn't look great today
WTF kind of clock management was thay from Ben Johnson????? Fk.
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Bears say Caleb Williams suffered a hamstring injury.
Really ballsy dive plays by MLF
Establish the run!
Is MLF for real? Now he wants to establish the run!!!!
Incredible job MLF. Have them on the ropes and you call two runs.
McManus would've missed that.
Well, at least they made the field goal, but heaven forbid they try and capitalize on momentum.
There is no law against firing him now.
Loved securing the FG. That at least guarantees you're tied.
What does Nixon have to do to lose his job, break into the Democrats HQ?
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 20, 2026, 03:09:21 PMWhat does Nixon have to do to lose his job, break into the Democrats HQ?
Vilma said he's a good corner. He also said the Packers are disciplined, so, you know.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 20, 2026, 03:09:21 PMWhat does Nixon have to do to lose his job, break into the Democrats HQ?
Premier post.
Amazing stop by the Packers. Time to establish the run
Excellent upcoming opportunity to get the run game going.
Jets doing Jets things
Didn't Glenn not know they have timeouts still?
This is a good decision by MLF so he can finish getting his QB killed
This is one of the dumber games I've ever seen
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 20, 2026, 03:22:33 PMThis is one of the dumber games I've ever seen
New Packers fan?
Quote from: Jockey on September 20, 2026, 03:23:36 PMNew Packers fan?
Usually, the other team isn't as dumb when the Packers are being dumb
What will get lost amid the Caleb injury is how bad Ben Johnson was today. People in Chicago are more than happy to crown him king, but man was that beyond sloppy and poor this afternoon.
I'm seeing hammy for Caleb. Hopefully that's the case.
Master class in coaching by MLF.
Never a doubt.
Extend LaFleur
Best player on the Packers Trey Smack bails us out again.
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 03:27:07 PMWhat will get lost amid the Caleb injury is how bad Ben Johnson was today. People in Chicago are more than happy to crown him king, but man was that beyond sloppy and poor this afternoon.
Dish,
It was not lost on me.
He was absolutely and unequivocally atrocious in every conceivable way. Grade today? F.
SoFi erupted on that Raiders touchdown.
Packers still suck. Bears still suck.
"Baki-Bewele" must translate to "I am injured all the time".
Jayden Daniels season over.
Quote from: PointWarrior on September 20, 2026, 04:42:27 PM"Baki-Bewele" must translate to "I am injured all the time".
Not as much as Banks does.
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 04:57:31 PMJayden Daniels season over.
Such a fluke thing too. They should have kicked the FG.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 05:01:45 PMSuch a fluke thing too. They should have kicked the FG.
Matt LaFleur vindication
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 05:01:45 PMSuch a fluke thing too. They should have kicked the FG.
100000000% yes.
Buccaneers have fired Todd Bowles
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 04:57:31 PMJayden Daniels season over.
Surprising, non contact, kind of routine arm placement to catch his body.
Crosby has absolutely abused Joe Alt all day.
The "onside" free kick and 10 different raiders immediately calling for a fair catch was one of the funnier things I've seen in awhile.
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 06:06:53 PMCrosby has absolutely abused Joe Alt all day.
That's so sad - I swore him dying would put an end to all that.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 20, 2026, 03:34:04 PMI'm seeing hammy for Caleb. Hopefully that's the case.
Dodged a bullet. When the injury happened, and then seeing the reaction to it, I thought for sure it was either an ACL or an Achilles. Hammies can be tricky, but usually just a multiple-week thing rather than a season-ender. Hate to see any team lose its QB, so I'm glad for the Bears.
Even with the rain, it's crazy that they went from 59 points to 3. Agree with others about Ben Johnson not having the kind of day that one usually sees from The Man Who Invented Offensive Football.
Even crazier: The Panthers went from allowing 59 points to allowing 3. The Falcons (especially with Rush starting) are battling the Dolphins for worst-in-league honors. Seeing Atlanta's QB silliness, while Kirk Cousins plays well for Vegas, is something.
I'm glad my team has a really solid backup QB. Of course, Lock has a lot of support, including the best WR in the game and a dominant defense. That obviously makes a huge difference. Darnold reportedly is on track to return next week, but I sure wouldn't rush him back.
Meanwhile, the "genius" sure has gotten spanked out of Jim Harbaugh, Mike McDaniel and Justin Herbert. Not just losing, but doing so to meh teams, and embarrassingly so.
Today's announcing nit: Somebody needs to tell these guys that the clock doesn't stop when the ballcarrier goes out of bounds until the last 2 minutes of the 2nd quarter and the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter. Already this season, several of them have shown they didn't know the rule. Today, Mark Schlereth went on and on that a player should have stayed in bounds with 10 minutes left to keep the clock moving ... even though, as he spoke, viewers could see the clock still moving. D'oh!
The Falcons have gone two games without a single offensive snap in the red zone. Of course they play Green Bay Thursday...
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 07:10:41 PMThe Falcons have gone two games without a single offensive snap in the red zone. Of course they play Green Bay Thursday...
If Cooper Rush is playing, the Packers definitely will win easily at Lambeau. Even if he's not, the Packers are highly likely to win easily. GB lucked out with the perfect opponent to play in a short week. According to ESPN, the line is only 7 points. Wow.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 07:10:41 PMThe Falcons have gone two games without a single offensive snap in the red zone. Of course they play Green Bay Thursday...
Packers defense has not been the problem. Now, will they give it to Atlanta in the Red Zone? That, that is believable
Quote from: MU82 on September 20, 2026, 07:14:40 PMIf Cooper Rush is playing, the Packers definitely will win easily at Lambeau. Even if he's not, the Packers are highly likely to win easily. GB lucked out with the perfect opponent to play in a short week. According to ESPN, the line is only 7 points. Wow.
This probably has something to do with it...
https://x.com/doug_clawson/status/2101778096567284025?s=20
Doug Clawson
@doug_clawson
The Packers are the 1st team to win a game in the Super Bowl era with under 200 total yards, 10+ penalties and 0 takeaways (teams were 0-38 with those numbers)
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 07:10:41 PMThe Falcons have gone two games without a single offensive snap in the red zone. Of course they play Green Bay Thursday...
The Falcons' next three games are in prime time.
Good work, NFL schedule makers.
From The Athletic:
Bryce Young finished 23-of-36 for 287 yards and three touchdowns and continued to pad his resume at Atlanta's expense. Young is now 5-1 against the Falcons and 10-32 against the rest of the NFL in his career. Three of his top four games by passer rating have come against Atlanta, and his cumulative passer rating against the Falcons (99.1) is nearly 20 points higher than against the rest of the league (79.9), according to TruMedia.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 07:10:41 PMThe Falcons have gone two games without a single offensive snap in the red zone. Of course they play Green Bay Thursday...
Packers defense has been just fine. 11th in DVOA, 17 points today despite losing the field position battle consistently. Held to a FG after a fumble on a short field. Offense (mostly the offensive line) needs to get it together.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 20, 2026, 07:22:25 PMThis probably has something to do with it...
https://x.com/doug_clawson/status/2101778096567284025?s=20
Doug Clawson
@doug_clawson
The Packers are the 1st team to win a game in the Super Bowl era with under 200 total yards, 10+ penalties and 0 takeaways (teams were 0-38 with those numbers)
That's the sort of stat that instills confidence in your newly extended head coach.
Ah well, at least it was the Jets, and next week the Falcons. If MLF goes under .500 and the Packers retain him (and Gute) I would not be surprised.
Quote from: Dish on September 20, 2026, 03:27:07 PMWhat will get lost amid the Caleb injury is how bad Ben Johnson was today. People in Chicago are more than happy to crown him king, but man was that beyond sloppy and poor this afternoon.
Yes, he was not on his game, however, he didn't fumble on the goal line, Swift did, and I have no issue with that call there. Also, its easy to Monday Morning QB it, but the play call on Caleb's injury was perfect, if he doesn't tweak the hammy, he's walking in cause Loveland had the LB blocked...on a run that they call all the time, not like they were forcing something with a gimpy/slow/immobile QB.
That's 14 points off the board. Not to mention he got them 60 yards down the field in 50 seconds with no TOs to give them a chance to still win the game. I'll gladly take that for the HC's "horrible" game. They were awful, but I don't have to be a orange and blue tinted homer to say the Bears still win that game if Caleb doesn't get hurt.
Now if you want to talk about WTF he was thinking trying to get way too cute favoring Roush for looks over Loveland and Kmet? I'm all ears cause that was baffling. That pass to Roush on 1st down from the 17 was a TD if thrown to Loveland or Kmet and they are up 10-6 with a healthy Caleb and a defense that was on its game.
Like Wags, I have absolutely no problem with Williams running on the play he got hurt. I mean, Caleb's a scrambler; his ability to run is one of the things that makes him special. If the hammy doesn't pop, he's in and the Bears lead.
All that and Caleb might play next week? Lol.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/2102039461085298999
Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2026, 11:27:18 AMAll that and Caleb might play next week? Lol.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/2102039461085298999
Might have soiled himself Paul Pierce style.
Well all of the well-earned memes aside, if I'm the Bears there are not many defensive fronts I want to play less than the Eagles in terms of protecting Caleb from himself.
Give it a week at least.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2026, 11:27:18 AMAll that and Caleb might play next week? Lol.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/2102039461085298999
Chicago tough
There were 2 sequences in the game yesterday that, to me, defined why MLF is such a terrible in-game coach.
1. The 1st 2 play calls were passes in the flat that went nowhere. Last week against Minny, He let Love get massacred over and over again with the constant blitzes and didn't run a screen or pass in the flat at all. Then without knowing what NYJ was going to throw at him, he ran them on the 1st 2 plays. Needless to say, they were 2 wasted plays that went nowhere.
2. After Moore ran back the punt for 60 yards, MLF had a chance to step on their throat. Instead, 1st handoff up the middle. 2nd down handoff up the middle.
As far as getting the team ready for a game, he's probably no better or worse than most HCs, but as as in-game coach he is as bad as it gets. Try to name one other guaranteed playoff team that loses a defensive star and then drops 6 games in a row. MLF simply doesn't have the chops to lead a team.
Not sure it matters, but the Packers will face Michael Penix this week.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 21, 2026, 04:59:06 PMNot sure it matters, but the Packers will face Michael Penix this week.
If the Packers lose, the LaFleur apologists left will tell you they didn't have enough time to prepare for him.
https://x.com/DanteTheDon/status/2102080824749207803
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 21, 2026, 05:12:33 PMIf the Packers lose, the LaFleur apologists left will tell you they didn't have enough time to prepare for him.
They had the perfect gameplan for a right hander
Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2026, 11:27:18 AMAll that and Caleb might play next week? Lol.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/2102039461085298999
Wow. I thought at minimum it was a 1/2 tbe season injury.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 21, 2026, 05:35:58 PMThey had the perfect gameplan for a right hander
"You can't except them to prepare for a left-hander when Atlanta started a right-hander the first two weeks. There was no way to know they'd make a change or any reason to believe they would. Packers fans are spoiled, just like complaining about the o-line. No one could have predicted they'd struggle"
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 21, 2026, 06:23:02 PMWow. I thought at minimum it was a 1/2 tbe season injury.
He has high testosterone.
Let's hope the Penix isnt Mightier.
Is Dart hurt or is he Caleb hurt?
Giants have low testosterone
Quote from: Jockey on September 21, 2026, 04:22:48 PMThere were 2 sequences in the game yesterday that, to me, defined why MLF is such a terrible in-game coach.
1. The 1st 2 play calls were passes in the flat that went nowhere. Last week against Minny, He let Love get massacred over and over again with the constant blitzes and didn't run a screen or pass in the flat at all. Then without knowing what NYJ was going to throw at him, he ran them on the 1st 2 plays. Needless to say, they were 2 wasted plays that went nowhere.
2. After Moore ran back the punt for 60 yards, MLF had a chance to step on their throat. Instead, 1st handoff up the middle. 2nd down handoff up the middle.
As far as getting the team ready for a game, he's probably no better or worse than most HCs, but as as in-game coach he is as bad as it gets. Try to name one other guaranteed playoff team that loses a defensive star and then drops 6 games in a row. MLF simply doesn't have the chops to lead a team.
I have another one. At the end of the 4th quarter. We had 1 play with 1 second left. It would have been a 64 yard FG attempt. Long yes, but our kicker has hit from 59 easily twice where both would have been good from 65.
Why not with 1 play left try a FG. Yes, it could be blocked or returned for a TD. But on a Hail Mary you could have an interception return for a TD, a bad snap, a fumble (especially when you end up taking a sack). So why not try it...better odds than a Hail Mary.
Nice toss there from Winston.
Find someone who loves you the way the MNF director loves Cam Skattebo.
Harbaugh showing a lot of trust in Jameis there.
Guys are making way too big a deal about Caleb needing a cart off. Here's Aaron Rodgers getting carted off with an injury and nothing else happening https://x.com/thesportspaige/status/2102191741596279067?s=46
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 21, 2026, 08:43:42 PMGuys are making way too big a deal about Caleb needing a cart off. Here's Aaron Rodgers getting carted off with an injury and nothing else happening https://x.com/thesportspaige/status/2102191741596279067?s=46
Well, he's never been the most reliable regarding his health.
Rough weekend at SoFi for the Harbaugh boys.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 21, 2026, 08:24:35 PMFind someone who loves you the way the MNF director loves Cam Skattebo.
Can't imagine why.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 21, 2026, 08:39:54 PMHarbaugh showing a lot of trust in Jameis there.
Jameis is so washed
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 21, 2026, 05:12:33 PMIf the Packers lose, the LaFleur apologists left will tell you they didn't have enough time to prepare for him.
There seems to be quite a dearth of these people atm.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 22, 2026, 12:12:00 PMThere seems to be quite a dearth of these people atm.
The ones that drink beer with him are still on the bus
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 22, 2026, 12:12:00 PMThere seems to be quite a dearth of these people atm.
GB can't get rid of MLF. I mean, who is going to take that job that is better? ;)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 22, 2026, 12:44:24 PMThe ones that drink beer with him are still on the bus
I picture him more as a spritzer kind of guy
Marvin Harrson Jr. might have effort issues.
https://x.com/SendDaVideo/status/2102449941184405650/video/1
https://x.com/JoshNorris/status/2102413803749036105/video/1
Let Case cook?
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#Bears QB Tyson Bagent is dealing with a concussion and is in the NFL's concussion protocol, sources say.
With Caleb Williams likely out with a hamstring injury, Case Keenum could be the starter vs the #Eagles.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 22, 2026, 01:36:59 PMLet Case cook?
@RapSheet
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#Bears QB Tyson Bagent is dealing with a concussion and is in the NFL's concussion protocol, sources say.
With Caleb Williams likely out with a hamstring injury, Case Keenum could be the starter vs the #Eagles.
Bagent has low testosterone
For those of you of a certain age, or with children of a certain age,
Special Bagent Oso.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 22, 2026, 02:33:46 PMBagent has low testosterone
Nothing a little Russell Wilson water can't fix.
MLF reads scoop? https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20 (https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20)
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 22, 2026, 09:40:29 PMMLF reads scoop? https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20 (https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20)
Time I come clean. I'm Mark Lafleur the lesser known LF brother. Matt keeps me locked and hidden at 1265 because he's ashamed of my alopecia, but he trusts my truly ass judgment in playcalling.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 22, 2026, 09:40:29 PMMLF reads scoop? https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20 (https://x.com/zachjacobson/status/2102521504177279343?s=20)
He literally said he wanted to establish the run with 4 MINUTES TO PLAY IN THE GAME.
Fire his stupid a$$ yesterday!!
Jaxson Dart is not Caleb hurt and will miss the season.
Quote from: Jockey on September 23, 2026, 10:07:13 AMHe literally said he wanted to establish the run with 4 MINUTES TO PLAY IN THE GAME.
Fire his stupid a$$ yesterday!!
I can't believe I am going to slightly defend MLF here, but...
If he hadn't stupidly said "establish the run", the rest of his point wouldn't necessarily have been wrong. If he had simply said something along the lines of, "we're going to call the play that we think has the greatest chance of success and the opponent was in a 2 high safety look" he wouldn't look like quite as big a fool.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 24, 2026, 09:19:51 AMI can't believe I am going to slightly defend MLF here, but...
If he hadn't stupidly said "establish the run", the rest of his point wouldn't necessarily have been wrong. If he had simply said something along the lines of, "we're going to call the play that we think has the greatest chance of success and the opponent was in a 2 high safety look" he wouldn't look like quite as big a fool.
He'd look like an idiot either way when it Chris Brooks he was giving the ball to. Him and Lloyd are not very good.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 09:33:37 AMHe'd look like an idiot either way when it Chris Brooks he was giving the ball to. Him and Lloyd are not very good.
It always surprises me it seems like MLF had more faith putting the ball in Malik Willis' hands than Jordan Love's.
"It's unbelievable, man," Darnold said of Lock's play. "None of us in this building are susprised."
Wait ... was it unbelievable or unsurprising?
Lock may "Wally Pipp" Darnold.
Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2026, 05:22:13 PM"It's unbelievable, man," Darnold said of Lock's play. "None of us in this building are susprised."
Wait ... was it unbelievable or unsurprising?
Wasn't perfect (and it's a low bar) but that was by far MLFs best play calling of the season on that drive.
I haven't been able to turn the game on yet. Was the roughing the passer call ticky tack or another boneheaded play?
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 24, 2026, 07:53:48 PMI haven't been able to turn the game on yet. Was the roughing the passer call ticky tack or another boneheaded play?
Both, but it was legit.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 24, 2026, 07:53:48 PMI haven't been able to turn the game on yet. Was the roughing the passer call ticky tack or another boneheaded play?
Eh, he went high and pulled up. Like in week one with the bullsht 'putting his weight on the QB' it's a call that pure football fans would prefer not be called, but it was borderline by the rules the league wants enforced.
Would be nice to see roughing only when a QB ends up on the ground
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 24, 2026, 07:56:47 PMEh, he went high and pulled up. Like in week one with the bullsht 'putting his weight on the QB' it's a call that pure football fans would prefer not be called, but it was borderline by the rules the league wants enforced.
Would be nice to see roughing only when a QB ends up on the ground
Bad call but that didn't cause them to give up 60 yards rushing right afterwards
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 07:57:55 PMBad call but that didn't cause them to give up 60 yards rushing right afterwards
A good example of roughing is the launching hit that Love just took
These officials are having a rough one.
Love isn't going to survive the season
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 08:18:22 PMLove isn't going to survive the season
They're not a good team and there's not a path to it.
Such an incredibly boring packers team to watch.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 24, 2026, 08:20:52 PMSuch an incredibly boring packers team to watch.
I was just about to ask is it just me or does this team just seem to go through the motions.
Prime time home opener and just playing so uninspired.
I'm thinking 5 wins max.
Too optimistic?
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 24, 2026, 08:22:04 PMI was just about to ask is it just me or does this team just seem to go through the motions.
Prime time home opener and just playing so uninspired.
They're just not very talented. The quality of personnel has dipped every season.
Turns out you need offensive linemen on the kicking unit too
Lot of Falcons fans in the crowd
It really doesn't seem like any of the receivers has the ability to get open.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 24, 2026, 08:28:28 PMThey're just not very talented. The quality of personnel has dipped every season.
Is it the players or the lack of talent?
Reminds me of the Colorado Rockies. They draft decent players, but have almost zero player development. Their players just don't get better.
I like these TO's by MLF.
More chances to get Love killed.
Man, the Packers suck.
https://x.com/Anthony_Becht/status/2103292120123789347?s=20 (https://x.com/Anthony_Becht/status/2103292120123789347?s=20)
Seriously, the packers may be the worst team in football.
I know it has been said by everyone, but at some point this is just a function of bad coaching.
Quote from: forgetful on September 24, 2026, 08:51:41 PMI know it has been said by everyone, but at some point this is just a function of bad coaching.
But they brought Luke Getsy back.
Quote from: forgetful on September 24, 2026, 08:51:41 PMI know it has been said by everyone, but at some point this is just a function of bad coaching.
They just have to get back on rhythm
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 09:01:44 PMThey just have to get back on rhythm
Sounds like we will establish the run.
And Jordan Love sucks too
Quote from: PointWarrior on September 24, 2026, 09:12:07 PMAnd Jordan Love sucks too
Very little of what you're watching is on Love. He has no chance in this offense. Why would the defense think there's a run play to your pass blocking RB ever.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 24, 2026, 09:15:48 PMVery little of what you're watching is on Love. He has no chance in this offense. Why would the defense think there's a run play to your pass blocking RB ever.
He's been bad tonight. Kraft is terrible right now, too
Kevin Stefanski has established the run.
I think Mrs. Robinson would gain 100 yards against that defense.
LaFleur officially killed the packers.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 24, 2026, 09:23:20 PMLaFleur officially killed the packers.
Gutekunst isn't blameless. He's had way too many misses
Fire the entire coaching staff and the front office.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 09:30:09 PMGutekunst isn't blameless. He's had way too many misses
Yup. When your big "hit" in the draft is trading up to land the 15th? best QB in the NFL while you still have arguably the most talented QB in the history of football on your roster, you probably haven't done well as an NFL GM.
I can see the Packers stealing this game. Plenty of time.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 24, 2026, 09:45:19 PMYup. When your big "hit" in the draft is trading up to land the 15th? best QB in the NFL while you still have arguably the most talented QB in the history of football on your roster, you probably haven't done well as an NFL GM.
The o-line is on him. If you can't hold up in the trenches, hard to win. He's been brutal finding o-linemen. Looking for "versatility" instead of football players.
Perhaps I was mistaken.
Packer fans do not sound happy.
The DL may be even worse than the OL.
Packers have fired Matt LaFleur.
Why wouldn't you run a 2 point conversion?
Take the free point.
Quote from: Jockey on September 24, 2026, 10:05:31 PMWhy wouldn't you run a 2 point conversion?
Take the free point.
Trying to find a rhythm
Looking at the schedule, the packers realistic only win the rest of the season is Miami at home in December. 2-15 is the ceiling.
Some hard hitting analysis from Al Michaels.
MLF looks done to me.
I'm not trolling here, but that was as uninspiring of a performance I've seen in a long time.
Home opener, against a terrible Atlanta team, and get absolutely trounced.
I don't know what they do either. No 1st round pick, can't trade Love or Parsons. Ugly start with not a lot of hope.
Quote from: Dish on September 24, 2026, 10:20:55 PMI'm not trolling here, but that was as uninspiring of a performance I've seen in a long time.
Home opener, against a terrible Atlanta team, and get absolutely trounced.
I don't know what they do either. No 1st round pick, can't trade Love or Parsons. Ugly start with not a lot of hope.
Well, no one died
No trolling taken, that was the most un-inspiring of game I have ever watched for the packers. Not a single positive to take away.
Trounced by a team that had not had a red zone possession in their first two games. At home.
Quote from: Dish on September 24, 2026, 10:20:55 PMI'm not trolling here, but that was as uninspiring of a performance I've seen in a long time.
Home opener, against a terrible Atlanta team, and get absolutely trounced.
I don't know what they do either. No 1st round pick, can't trade Love or Parsons. Ugly start with not a lot of hope.
Quote from: Dish on September 24, 2026, 10:04:12 PMPackers have fired Matt LaFleur.
Thank god the extended him a couple months ago or he might've left for another job. Same with Gutey.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 24, 2026, 10:23:20 PMWell, no one died
Bob Pettit ... have some freaking respect.
I think there's a path for the Packers if they use their mini bye thoughtfully
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDk00UZVEAcWrqf?format=webp&name=large)
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 25, 2026, 07:17:04 AMI think there's a path for the Packers if they use their mini bye thoughtfully
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDk00UZVEAcWrqf?format=webp&name=large)
I had some more thoughts after last night's debacle.
1. Should be some questions about strength and conditioning in GB. No doubt the offensive struggles hold some blame but that defense was gassed after 3 series. The Falcons played 3 games in 11 days, too. Wonder if that isn't part of why they scuffle in second halves, too.
2. Having Love play that last series after taking another beating was coaching malpractice.
3. If they move on from the coach, the GM has to go, too.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 25, 2026, 07:27:51 AMI had some more thoughts after last night's debacle.
1. Should be some questions about strength and conditioning in GB. No doubt the offensive struggles hold some blame but that defense was gassed after 3 series. The Falcons played 3 games in 11 days, too. Wonder if that isn't part of why they scuffle in second halves, too.
2. Having Love play that last series after taking another beating was coaching malpractice.
3. If they move on from the coach, the GM has to go, too.
Everyone has to go. There have been media reports in the past on how they don't like moving on from assistant coaches because of the guaranteed money. And the two coaches in question - Stenovich and Butkus - are the main culprits.
The talent on the OL is not good. Yes, they're decimated, but trusting your injured OT and your injured guard (who was bad regardless, but at least a passable level of bad) to not be injured, is negligent. The OL seems between identities of who they were as an outside zone team with Aaron Jones and a Duo scheme under Jacobs. But that's beside the point when you can't protect your most important asset and give him time to throw to what appears to be an at least "good" set of WRs. He's seeing ghosts out there.
That's really it. This season will get worse because of the lack of 1st round pick, but that remains the correct trade with bad luck. Combining that all-in trade with half-assed OL construction is outweighs any of the good.
It's honestly hard to judge the defense right now - there's so much slanted against them when they're getting killed by time of possession. I don't think they're good, but they're not the reason for the overall team performance in each of the first 3 weeks.
Sidebar - Bijan is really fun to watch - his pacing is similar to Leveon Bell with a significantly better athletic profile.
I'll come up for air on this team once the Brewers' season ends, whenever that is, and we'll see if they're still kicking. I doubt it - we haven't seen the bottom yet.
I think how we lost to the Bears makes people forget just how bad the end of the season was last year. Or maybe just me.
The NFC Championships are a distant memory too. Hopefully the 7 seed Wild Card game is named after him.
So when does LaFailure get fired?
The Packers look like they have lost the plot on all the "necessary not sufficient" parts of being a good football team. I think the talent evaluation at the skill positions and for the most dynamic personnel moves in trades (Parsons) and free agency (McKinney, Jacobs) has generally been quite good. But a broad degradation of the least flashy parts of an operation is just what happens when a leadership team has run its course.
Quote from: PointWarrior on September 25, 2026, 09:26:20 AMSo when does LaFailure get fired?
They should have never extended Gutey or MLF in the off-season when they still had a year to go on their contract.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 25, 2026, 07:46:07 AMI think how we lost to the Bears makes people forget just how bad the end of the season was last year. Or maybe just me.
The NFC Championships are a distant memory too. Hopefully the 7 seed Wild Card game is named after him.
This team died in Denver. And it thought that running it back healthy would be sufficient, when in reality these cracks existed all of last year.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 25, 2026, 10:31:06 AMThis team died in Denver. And it thought that running it back healthy would be sufficient, when in reality these cracks existed all of last year.
My concern is they cobble together a few too many late season wins and convince themselves to run it back again.
Quote from: lostpassword on September 25, 2026, 10:59:37 AMMy concern is they cobble together a few too many late season wins and convince themselves to run it back again.
That's almost certainly will be what happens.
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 25, 2026, 07:45:01 AMHe's seeing ghosts out there.
Look at the bright side, GBW - things turned out pretty great for last QB who was saying that.
Quote from: lostpassword on September 25, 2026, 10:59:37 AMMy concern is they cobble together a few too many late season wins and convince themselves to run it back again.
Close with:
Buffalo
Miami
@ Chicago
Houston
Detroit
Who did Ed Policy blow to get four of their last five games at home?
Quote from: Pakuni on September 25, 2026, 06:48:13 PMClose with:
Buffalo
Miami
@ Chicago
Houston
Detroit
Who did Ed Policy blow to get four of their last five games at home?
Because of the Badgers playing Notre Dame at Lambeau, the Packers played their first two games on the road, so the backend of the schedule is home heavy...plus this is their year with nine home games.
Look away, Packers fans.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdukiaXhc7A/?stkn=cnZienF5dWprY3Bo
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 24, 2026, 07:41:32 PMWasn't perfect (and it's a low bar) but that was by far MLFs best play calling of the season on that drive.
That's very nice of you to derive positivity
Drake Maye is legit terrible.
I think the "New England had a soft 2025 schedule" is turning out to be remarkably accurate.
The hook & ladder is the most underutilized play in football.
It's hilarious that the Vikings are actively choosing to play their second best Qb.
Quote from: Dish on September 27, 2026, 03:39:54 PMThe hook & ladder is the most underutilized play in football.
Deebo ended the game with 80 receiving yards...but no receptions.
Cowboys ...... WTF??? That was horrific.
The NFL always delivers. That was a fun game.
The Eagles are only a 4.5 point favorite tomorrow? What am I missing? Does Vegas know Keenum is playing? 9 or 10 points seems realistic.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 27, 2026, 07:08:08 PMThe Eagles are only a 4.5 point favorite tomorrow? What am I missing? Does Vegas know Keenum is playing? 9 or 10 points seems realistic.
The eagles have a noodle arm
Terrible PI call there. Absolutely absurd.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 27, 2026, 10:36:14 PMTerrible PI call there. Absolutely absurd.
Followed by a phantom hand to the face penalty.
The unbeatable juggernaut Rams are 1-2. Stafford threw a pick-6.
The other NFC West titan Seahawks lost to a crappy Washington team. Darnold threw a pick-6.
And the other NFC West superpower 49ers barely scraped by the crappy Cardinals. Purdy didn't throw a pick-6.
Fun Fact: Stafford has now thrown 33 career pick-6s, setting the NFL record. He had shared the mark with the ol' douchenozzle, Brett Favre.
The NFL is just plagued with too many penalties, many of them bad, at the beginning of every season. Hopefully it will calm down just like it normally does.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2026, 08:06:10 AMThe NFL is just plagued with too many penalties, many of them bad, at the beginning of every season. Hopefully it will calm down just like it normally does.
The solution is an 8 game pre-season
From The Athletic:
Drake Maye has posted negative expected points added per pass play in six consecutive games (including playoffs), a skid equaling the likes of J.J. McCarthy and Dillon Gabriel. He's one game from matching Will Levis and Sam Howell, two from Blaine Gabbert, Mike Glennon and Urban Meyer-era Trevor Lawrence, and three from entering DeShone Kizer territory.
9 is traded to the Giants for a fifth round pick.
The fact that the Vikings got a fifth rounder for him is somewhat amazing.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2026, 11:15:10 AM9 is traded to the Giants for a fifth round pick.
The fact that the Vikings got a fifth rounder for him is somewhat amazing.
How lost must he be if the Great Quarterback Whisperer is already giving up on him?
Bears starting Case Keenum over the second-best quarterback in the NFC North is a head-scratcher.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 28, 2026, 11:54:01 AMBears starting Case Keenum over the second-best quarterback in the NFC North is a head-scratcher.
At least they're starting the 3rd best QB
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 28, 2026, 01:55:21 PMAt least they're starting the 3rd best QB
Tyrod Taylor is on the Packers bub.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 28, 2026, 11:54:01 AMBears starting Case Keenum over the second-best quarterback in the NFC North is a head-scratcher.
I wish I was a gambler, you can get the Eagles at -3.5 now!!! Crazy. I feel like Vegas knows something we don't.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 28, 2026, 11:15:10 AM9 is traded to the Giants for a fifth round pick.
The fact that the Vikings got a fifth rounder for him is somewhat amazing.
My working theory is Jim convinced John that JJ could be great, as a joke. Jim will now laugh in John's face at family Christmas.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 28, 2026, 02:49:34 PMI wish I was a gambler, you can get the Eagles at -3.5 now!!! Crazy. I feel like Vegas knows something we don't.
The Eagles have a slew of question marks. They have not looked all that good
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2026, 02:54:16 PMThe Eagles have a slew of question marks. They have not looked all that good
I guess so. Seems like an average NFL team would be at least a 3.5 favorite against a Keenum lead team with a non-existent defensive secondary. I guess I'm overvaluing the Eagles as a team. I'm guessing the Bears put up 10-13 points.
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 28, 2026, 02:50:04 PMMy working theory is Jim convinced John that JJ could be great, as a joke. Jim will now laugh in John's face at family Christmas.
At least John will be employed at Christmas.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 28, 2026, 02:49:34 PMI wish I was a gambler, you can get the Eagles at -3.5 now!!! Crazy. I feel like Vegas knows something we don't.
Eagles needed a last-second TD to sneak by a very bad Titans team. And right now, I'm taking my chances with Case Keenum over Cam Ward.
Quote from: Pakuni on September 28, 2026, 04:01:50 PMEagles needed a last-second TD to sneak by a very bad Titans team. And right now, I'm taking my chances with Case Keenum over Cam Ward.
I see the logic. That's why I'm not a gambler.
Damn....
Did not expect that opening drive fron Da Bears.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2026, 07:26:15 PMDamn....
Did not expect that opening drive fron Da Bears.
Why? All opening drives are scripted
WTF!!!! How on earth do you drop that? And then do that on 4th down?? Inexcusable.
Like I predicted, Bears score 10-13 points.
Wow cheating works
This game is over. Bears blew their chance with that ridiculous dropped td.
Throwing on 3rd down inside the 2 minute warning. Stupid.
Run the ball. Force them to call a TO.
Big 10 officials in the NFL? Laughable.
Case Keenum + Bear Weather >>>>>>>>>>>>
Keenum hasn't played a game in close to 3 years??
Every Eagles game is excruciating to watch. Their style of play is just hard on the eyes.
Quote from: Dish on September 28, 2026, 09:25:37 PMEvery Eagles game is excruciating to watch. Their style of play is just hard on the eyes.
Has been since Saquan was dominant.
I'm in disbelief.
Caleb a system QB? Caleb holding Ben back?
Shoutout FIBs. Shoutout Bear Weather.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2026, 08:39:00 PMThis game is over. Bears blew their chance with that ridiculous dropped td.
You are the gift that keeps on giving
I'm a dope. Keenum was very good, I don't gamble on sports for a reason.
The Eagles are not so good.
If we're being honest, that was an a$$ whipping tonight.
Rome Odunze was a top 10 pick.
Sheesh.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that this Eagles team is bad.
Their two wins were less than impressive against two bad/terrible teams, and then they got hammered tonight against a third string QB.
Philly is almost as soft as GB.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 28, 2026, 10:22:10 PMSo was Loveland.
What's the comparison?
Loveland is arguably top 5 at his position in the NFL.
Rome isn't in the top 10, 20, 30?
Extend LeFleur
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 28, 2026, 10:34:54 PMWhat's the comparison?
Loveland is arguably top 5 at his position in the NFL.
Rome isn't in the top 10, 20, 30?
5 receptions and 34 yds in 3 games. ::)
Actually, I think both are good. It is way early in the season.
There are lots and lots (and lots) of reasons why the Eagles deserved to lose. But when you fall for the ol' "we ain't snapping the football so we'll try to draw em offsides" scheme, you REALLY deserve to lose.
That's like an MLB baserunner falling for the hidden-ball trick, which no one has done since Pee Wee Reese executed it.
But good on the Bears. And helluva game for Keenum. He made a coupla throws that were close to pick-6s, but he also made numerous excellent passes and was in command all night. I thought Johnson called a good game, too - put his players in position to succeed.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 28, 2026, 10:47:03 PM5 receptions and 34 yds in 3 games. ::)
Actually, I think both are good. It is way early in the season.
I'm not making my statements based on small sample size of the 3 games so far this season
Since you are, I understand why you'd push back
Quote from: Shaka Shart on September 28, 2026, 10:03:23 PMYou are the gift that keeps on giving
My plan worked perfectly!!
Eagles:
-Only team not to force a turnover
-4th fewest sacks on defense
-Most 3rd down conversions allowed in the league
-Worst offensive play action success rate (by a mile) in the league
-3rd quarter success rate 17.1% (!!!), easily worst in the NFL (NFL average is 46.5%)
-Worst EPA performance in 4 years
Keenum more passing TDs than Drake May.
Keenum more rushing TDs than Saquon Barkley,
;D
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2026, 08:39:00 PMThis game is over. Bears blew their chance with that ridiculous dropped td.
who ended up winning? Ty.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 29, 2026, 06:23:33 AMwho ended up winning? Ty.
Again, my reverse psychology paid major dividends! Ty.
They haven't faced a murderers row or anything, but that Bears defense is really looking good.
Quote from: Dish on September 28, 2026, 11:38:05 PMEagles:
-Only team not to force a turnover
-4th fewest sacks on defense
-Most 3rd down conversions allowed in the league
-Worst offensive play action success rate (by a mile) in the league
-3rd quarter success rate 17.1% (!!!), easily worst in the NFL (NFL average is 46.5%)
-Worst EPA performance in 4 years
Both sides of the balls seem stuck in the recent past. Hurts doesn't like playing under center, so they will never have a good play action game. On defense, Vic got worked last night. He's never been guy who liked to bring pressure, but that's the trend.
The NFC East is weak and the Eagles still have talent. And Hurts has a knack for pulling out games in the last two minutes. I could see them winning a weak East at 9-8 and being the #4 seed that gets hammered in the Wildcard.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 08:44:02 AMThey haven't faced a murderers row or anything, but that Bears defense is really looking good.
The talent level is nothing special, so I'm sure that will bring this unit back to reality over the course of the season. However, the coaching is really solid. Dennis Allen is not a HC, but he is a very good DC. Al Harris might be the best secondary coach in the league.
Last night, Barkley was killing them in the first half with the outside zone. I thought he was going to run for 150+. But, the Bears made an adjustment at half pulling their ends in and it stopped the Eagles 1st down run game completely.
Quote from: RJax55 on September 29, 2026, 08:57:14 AMThe talent level is nothing special, so I'm sure that will bring this unit back to reality over the course of the season. However, the coaching is really solid. Dennis Allen is not a HC, but he is a very good DC. Al Harris might be the best secondary coach in the league.
Last night, Barkley was killing them in the first half with the outside zone. I thought he was going to run for 150+. But, the Bears made an adjustment at half pulling their ends in and it stopped the Eagles 1st down run game completely.
Both sides of the ball made some incredible adjustments between halves.
Not something bears fans are used to
NFL releases video on the proper way to sack Mahomes
https://x.com/The_Phinstones/status/2104706751224234455?s=20
Quote from: pbiflyer on September 29, 2026, 11:07:28 AMNFL releases video on the proper way to sack Mahomes
https://x.com/The_Phinstones/status/2104706751224234455?s=20
Still looks like '
Targeting' to me. The defender touched Mahomes. 15 yards and player ejection.
Packer/Bear game on 10/11 moved from 3:25pm to noon...I assume to avoid conflict with Brewers or Cubs in NLCS game 1.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on September 29, 2026, 01:12:12 PMPacker/Bear game on 10/11 moved from 3:25pm to noon...I assume to avoid conflict with Brewers and/or Cubs NLCS game 1.
My first thought was taking the Packers out of prime time.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on September 29, 2026, 01:12:12 PMPacker/Bear game on 10/11 moved from 3:25pm to noon...I assume to avoid conflict with Brewers or Cubs in NLCS game 1.
Game 2. Game 1 is Saturday.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 29, 2026, 01:14:36 PMMy first thought was taking the Packers out of prime time.
Apparently only 1/4 the country was getting the Packers / Bears because the Seahawks and Niners were in the same slot. Now 1/2 the country will get them.
And yes, my guess is that the Brewers will play at 3:00.
Quote from: The Sultan on September 29, 2026, 01:27:35 PMGame 2. Game 1 is Saturday.
Not according to MLB.com...NLCS starts Sunday.
nm
My bad.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2026, 08:39:00 PMThis game is over. Bears blew their chance with that ridiculous dropped td.
LOL
Quote from: jesmu84 on September 28, 2026, 10:18:56 PMRome Odunze was a top 10 pick.
Sheesh.
The worst part about that drop is what an incredible throw it was by Keenum under pressure. That and a handful of other throws/reads he made reminded you that "oh its nice to have a 3rd string QB who has 65+ starts in the NFL and not a random inexperienced practice squad guy".
Gutey: "All your past prime guard are belong to us."
Quote from: MUBurrow on September 30, 2026, 10:22:12 AMGutey: "All your past prime guard are belong to us."
You mean ignoring the fact that your OL has been getting worse every year and letting (admittedly not good, but still...) guys walk to sign for $4MM while you pay what had been a middle of the road guard $80MM to not play and then rebuilding your entire OL after week 3 with unsigned old guys isn't a good way to build what is the most important position group on a football team?
You don't say.
The NFL has informed the Los Angeles Rams that the pass interference penalty on Josh Wallace that defined Sunday night's loss to the Denver Broncos should not have been called.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7647298/2026/09/30/rams-josh-wallace-pass-interference-penalty-broncos/
I wish Detroit was being as aggressive trying to fix their secondary as GB has been bringing in linemen.
Methusa-line.
Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2026, 02:03:31 PMI wish Detroit was being as aggressive trying to fix their secondary as GB has been bringing in linemen.
Methusa-line.
You'll meet your match this week. The Panthers just lost both starting CBs - real good players. And that's on top of numerous injuries at other positions.
Violent freakin' game.
Roger Goodell and Bears minority owner Pat Ryan met in Chicago today with JB Pritzker and some key state legislators. Notably absent: Kevin Warren.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 01, 2026, 05:11:16 PMRoger Goodell and Bears minority owner Pat Ryan met in Chicago today with JB Pritzker and some key state legislators. Notably absent: Kevin Warren.
Yeah, I would guess that Kevin will move on once this deal is done. I also think that the McCaskeys may cash out at that point as well.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 01, 2026, 06:37:26 PMYeah, I would guess that Kevin will move on once this deal is done. I also think that the McCaskeys may cash out at that point as well.
I think you're right on both points.
Warren is you're next WNBA commissioner. :D
CBS says goodbye to Tony Romo.
https://x.com/thescorechicago/status/2106032132435124614
It's really cool to see how well things are going with Rodgers and McCarthy.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 02, 2026, 11:46:19 AMhttps://x.com/thescorechicago/status/2106032132435124614
Kevin Warren's nonsense just made the whole thing more expensive for everyone.
Quote from: RJax55 on October 02, 2026, 11:29:55 AMCBS says goodbye to Tony Romo.
There's nothing more American than a major corporation paying a bad employee millions just to go away.
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2026, 12:25:52 PMThere's nothing more American than a major corporation paying a bad employee millions just to go away.
Buyer's remorse. You could see this coming back in August.
I wonder if another network (Amazon?) will give Tony a shot? I'm unsure, since all the shine from his early days in the booth is long gone.
Quote from: RJax55 on October 02, 2026, 02:42:19 PMBuyer's remorse. You could see this coming back in August.
I wonder if another network (Amazon?) will give Tony a shot? I'm unsure, since all the shine from his early days in the booth is long gone.
That was my exact read as well. I loved early Romo, deserved every penny of his insanely lucrative deal...but he's not the same captivating/entertaining commentator. Some of it is his fault, some of it is network/producer feedback, but it is what it is.
If CBS can save a third of that $72MM over the next 4 year, that's a win considering they are excited about Watt and are ready to move forward with him as the #1 anyways.
I doubt Romo ends up elsewhere. Hes not gonna get the top chair, marquee spot at a big network. Amazon isn't gonna toss Herbstreit for a Temu version of Romo. It's not like Romo grinded for 5 years post NFL to a lead gig like Olsen cause he loves it and wants to stick with it, so he'd go to another network on a lower commentary team.
He's made $250MM+ between the Cowboys and NBC. He was playing a Q School pre-event this week. Dude is gonna spend the next 3 years prepping to make the Champions Tour in 2030.
Herbstreit just signed an extension with Amazon, so there isn't gonna be an opening there for Romo or anybody else.
Aaron Donald out with back spasms.
Who would have guessed that a 35-year-old lineman playing against maulers 10 years younger after having not suited up for years, would not have a smooth road back in un-retirement?
Quote from: MU82 on October 02, 2026, 06:33:59 PMAaron Donald out with back spasms.
Who would have guessed that a 35-year-old lineman playing against maulers 10 years younger after having not suited up for years, would not have a smooth road back in un-retirement?
I heard he made them a superteam unlike any teams we have in major athletics in America right now. You know, their last SB appearance being 5 years ago and all.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 02, 2026, 08:18:48 PMI heard he made them a superteam unlike any teams we have in major athletics in America right now. You know, their last SB appearance being 5 years ago and all.
I do get the hype. It's how things work. And the Rams will probably still be really good.
But it was just so silly to expect The Greatest Ever stuff from an old team that has to play the Niners and Seahawks twice each. I'll get a kick out of every loss.
Marshawn Lloyd is a fraud.
Perpetrated upon us by MLF & Gutey.
You can't complain about booing and then drop a TD catch as easy as that.
Quote from: Jockey on October 04, 2026, 12:26:02 PMMarshawn Lloyd is a fraud.
Perpetrated upon us by MLF & Gutey.
He is the worst "featured" GB RB in quite some time.
Love has been money today and the receivers have been so, so bad. Pass blocking looks improved but won't get my hopes up yet.
MLF is still a coward.
Have Trey Smack and Anders Carlson ever been seen in the same place?
I've seen a theory that the league is punishing the Packers for not cutting Jacobs through the refs.
Calling that incomplete on the field forcing the Packers to challenge certainly supports that theory.
Think that's an Achilles for Cooper. Fell, looked behind him as if he got pushed and then realized nobody was there. Reaction was textbook.
Hope I'm wrong, one of the few injuries that can still majorly impact a career.
Quote from: BM1090 on October 04, 2026, 01:52:48 PMThink that's an Achilles for Cooper. Fell, looked behind him as if he got pushed and then realized nobody was there. Reaction was textbook.
Hope I'm wrong, one of the few injuries that can still majorly impact a career.
Probably just strained a hammy.
This team is so dumb.
This team is so dumb
Bagent stinks
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 04, 2026, 02:41:34 PMBagent stinks
He'd be the second best packer behind Smack.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 04, 2026, 02:41:34 PMBagent stinks
Flags are certainly helping him avoid a very rough afternoon.
Gonna be a long long season.
Maybe we can get rid of MLF.
I think keenum is preferable to bagent next week based on what I saw. A nice luxury to be picking between the second and third best QBs in the division after an injury
SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Jets had a total of 45 seconds of possession in today's 4th quarter
Quote from: Jockey on October 04, 2026, 03:00:29 PMGonna be a long long season.
Maybe we can get rid of MLF.
Why? Big road win today.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 04, 2026, 06:54:41 PMThe Jets had a total of 45 seconds of possession in today's 4th quarter
Unbelievably, not good enough for some Bears fans. ::)
Equally unbelievable, the Bear's defense since week 1.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 04, 2026, 07:11:59 PMUnbelievably, not good enough for some Bears fans. ::)
Equally unbelievable, the Bear's defense since week 1.
They've been good, but also, they've faced:
- the Carson Wentz-led Vikings in a rainstorm
- the dumpster fire that is the Eagles offense (Kenneth Walker had 5 more yards rushing (177) than the Eagles total yards (172) today)
- Geno Smith and the Breece Hall-less Jets
Next three opponents: Packers, Falcons and Patriots. How did they get this schedule?
Speaking of Bears defense, rough look today for Otis Wilson.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 04, 2026, 08:01:25 PMThey've been good, but also, they've faced:
- the Carson Wentz-led Vikings in a rainstorm
- the dumpster fire that is the Eagles offense (Kenneth Walker had 5 more yards rushing (177) than the Eagles total yards (172) today)
- Geno Smith and the Breece Hall-less Jets
Next three opponents: Packers, Falcons and Patriots. How did they get this schedule?
Speaking of Bears defense, rough look today for Otis Wilson.
And they have been without a good QB for 2+ games. They have been good.
I'd put them at about 10 on the power rankings.
I didn't see "Otis, my man!", as the game wasn't on TV where I live. Sorry to hear that.
Horrific ankle injury for the Chief's Tyquan Thornton. Had so much adrenaline after a big catch that he got up celebrating the catch and tried to stand on an ankle that wasn't really attached anymore.
Sickening. Hope he gets better, hate to see things like that, but man adrenaline must be a hell of a drug.
That Lions defense ain't it man.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 04, 2026, 08:01:25 PMThey've been good, but also, they've faced:
- the Carson Wentz-led Vikings in a rainstorm
- the dumpster fire that is the Eagles offense (Kenneth Walker had 5 more yards rushing (177) than the Eagles total yards (172) today)
- Geno Smith and the Breece Hall-less Jets
Next three opponents: Packers, Falcons and Patriots. How did they get this schedule?
Speaking of Bears defense, rough look today for Otis Wilson.
Totally valid on the Bears defense, they've had the benefit of playing three straight terrible offenses. Flip side being at least they did their job against those teams. Had they given up 20+ to all of them, I'd be more worried.
I will say Las Vegas is as entertaining a watch as any team in the league. If they can survive these next 6 weeks (Jets being there helps), the back end of their schedule eases up.
Quote from: forgetful on October 04, 2026, 10:29:48 PMHorrific ankle injury for the Chief's Tyquan Thornton. Had so much adrenaline after a big catch that he got up celebrating the catch and tried to stand on an ankle that wasn't really attached anymore.
Sickening. Hope he gets better, hate to see things like that, but man adrenaline must be a hell of a drug.
The Chiefs are totally bringing back Tyreek Hill, right?
Maybe Bryce Young is actually a better QB than CJ Stroud after all?
Quote from: Dish on October 04, 2026, 10:47:46 PMTotally valid on the Bears defense, they've had the benefit of playing three straight terrible offenses. Flip side being at least they did their job against those teams. Had they given up 20+ to all of them, I'd be more worried.
Especially important the last 2 weeks cause its let a backup QB led offense start slow/fail to execute in spots but not fall completely behind.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 05, 2026, 12:20:32 PMEspecially important the last 2 weeks cause its let a backup QB led offense start slow/fail to execute in spots but not fall completely behind.
And doing so without the benefit of Bears weather #beardown
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2026, 12:57:01 PMAnd doing so without the benefit of Bears weather #beardown
They will have Bears weather this weekend, but more importantly, they will have MLF
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 05, 2026, 01:54:36 PMThey will have Bears weather this weekend, but more importantly, they will have MLF
And TB17!
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 05, 2026, 05:10:35 PMAnd TB17!
But this will be the first time they face TS28. I like the packers chances.
From Yahoo Sports:
Kenneth Walker III's 537 rush yards are the most by any player through four games in the last 15 years, and he's just the fourth player in NFL history to rack up 175+ scrimmage yards in three of the first four games in a season. Since last November, Walker has won 14 consecutive games, claimed Super Bowl MVP (the first running back to do so since 1998), signed a $43 million contract and emerged as an early OPOY frontrunner.
From me:
I thought it was important that the Seahawks keep Rashid Shaheed, even if it meant that they wouldn't be able to keep Walker. I figured that they could draft somebody who could team with others to do what Walker and Charbonnet did the last couple of seasons.
Looks like I couldn't have been more wrong. More importantly, it looks like John Schneider couldn't have been more wrong; he has slightly more say on the roster than I do.
Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2026, 11:01:11 AMLooks like I couldn't have been more wrong.
You have been on scoop for years and should know better than to
ever admit that you were wrong.
An Campbell has been drug down into the etroit Lion eternal abyss.
Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2026, 11:01:11 AMFrom Yahoo Sports:
Kenneth Walker III's 537 rush yards are the most by any player through four games in the last 15 years, and he's just the fourth player in NFL history to rack up 175+ scrimmage yards in three of the first four games in a season. Since last November, Walker has won 14 consecutive games, claimed Super Bowl MVP (the first running back to do so since 1998), signed a $43 million contract and emerged as an early OPOY frontrunner.
From me:
I thought it was important that the Seahawks keep Rashid Shaheed, even if it meant that they wouldn't be able to keep Walker. I figured that they could draft somebody who could team with others to do what Walker and Charbonnet did the last couple of seasons.
Looks like I couldn't have been more wrong. More importantly, it looks like John Schneider couldn't have been more wrong; he has slightly more say on the roster than I do.
Schneider should probably be fired so he can come home to Green Bay.
I think Josh Allen is incredible, and he would be on my very short list of candidates for the #1 pick if I had to draft a team of active players to win immediately.
However ...
He has thrown five interceptions and fumbled seven times in his last five games.
Most of the time, he makes up for that stuff by making great plays. But sometimes - as in the playoff loss to Denver and this past week's loss to New England - he can't.
Eagles OT Lane Johnson announces his retirement
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2026, 03:14:16 PMEagles OT Lane Johnson announces his retirement
Brought up his mental health a couple of times in his statement. Hope he's OK.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2026, 03:14:16 PMEagles OT Lane Johnson announces his retirement
A lot of internet tough guys out there who think he's soft because he's retiring mid-season.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2026, 03:24:32 PMA lot of internet tough guys out there who think he's soft because he's retiring mid-season.
Dentists hide behind their screens and hygienist
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2026, 03:46:06 PMDentists hide behind their screens and hygienist
As long as they aren't bald.
Quote from: cheebs09 on October 06, 2026, 12:59:50 PMSchneider should probably be fired so he can come home to Green Bay.
Like even the greatest GMs in sports history, he's had a few bad calls to go with all the good ones. I think we in Seattle will hang onto him despite him maybe making the wrong call on Walker.
The Eagles are in tank mode.
@AdamSchefter
Trade: Eagles are sending two-time Pro Bowl center Cam Jurgens and a 2027 7th-round pick to the Ravens in exchange for a 2027 5th-round pick and a 2028 2nd-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
The Athletic has an article highlighting a few stats (good or bad) for each team so far this season. Here's what they posted about Green Bay ...
The Packers offense goes three-and-out a league-high 45.5 percent of the time. The offense ranks 32nd in rush attempts and rushing yards, and the team has the second-most penalties in the NFL with 42. They also lead the NFL in the percentage of pass attempts with under 2.5 seconds to throw.
Quote from: MU82 on October 07, 2026, 02:42:11 PMThe Athletic has an article highlighting a few stats (good or bad) for each team so far this season. Here's what they posted about Green Bay ...
The Packers offense goes three-and-out a league-high 45.5 percent of the time. The offense ranks 32nd in rush attempts and rushing yards, and the team has the second-most penalties in the NFL with 42. They also lead the NFL in the percentage of pass attempts with under 2.5 seconds to throw.
So what? Occasionally, LaFleur runs a sick scheme
Drake Maye, moon landing truther.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/drake-maye-is-skeptical-of-the-moon-landing
Quote from: MU82 on October 07, 2026, 02:42:11 PMThe Athletic has an article highlighting a few stats (good or bad) for each team so far this season. Here's what they posted about Green Bay ...
The Packers offense goes three-and-out a league-high 45.5 percent of the time. The offense ranks 32nd in rush attempts and rushing yards, and the team has the second-most penalties in the NFL with 42. They also lead the NFL in the percentage of pass attempts with under 2.5 seconds to throw.
If I were coach I would establish the run even harder.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 07, 2026, 08:06:29 PMDrake Maye, moon landing truther.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/drake-maye-is-skeptical-of-the-moon-landing
Perfect paragraph from the article:
Maye's comments are a reflection of post-truth America. Facts no longer matter. The only thing that's relevant is what a given person believes.
Sean Payton is benching his OC; taking over the Broncos' playcalling himself.
Quote from: MU82 on October 08, 2026, 04:52:08 PMSean Payton is benching his OC; taking over the Broncos' playcalling himself.
Seems like the right move. They are a win now team and the offense has been meh.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 08, 2026, 05:25:48 PMSeems like the right move. They are a win now team and the offense has been meh.
Yea, kind of a no brainer really. Pretty sure this was the first time in his career that Payton wasn't the play caller on offense. Sure, Webb is his protege and could still become a really good OC, but they have the all the skill players back from last year, plus traded a 1st and a 3rd for Waddle, and it's a bottom 5 offense thus far, in both points and yards. They've played 4 good teams, fair, but yet a totally reasonable take for Payton to realize something isn't working thus far.
Herbstreit: Stop calling the Cowboys coach "Schottie." He's not a dog, and he's not your best friend.
Quote from: MU82 on October 08, 2026, 09:28:28 PMHerbstreit: Stop calling the Cowboys coach "Schottie." He's not a dog, and he's not your best friend.
Not that I care either way, but that's pretty common parlance in Dallas since he's been HC. My BIL calls him that and he gets referred to as such by Dallas sports radio/Cowboys bloggers. I would imagine it was probably something Herbstreit picked up during interviews/prep work around the organization this week. Not like it's some dorky inside nickname due to a friendship they have.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 08, 2026, 09:39:31 PMNot that I care either way, but that's pretty common parlance in Dallas since he's been HC. My BIL calls him that and he gets referred to as such by Dallas sports radio/Cowboys bloggers. I would imagine it was probably something Herbstreit picked up during interviews/prep work around the organization this week. Not like it's some dorky inside nickname due to a friendship they have.
It's dorky. Act like a professional, national announcer. The coach has a real name. Use it.
As for Bucs coach Todd Bowles - "Bowlsie?" - kick the effen FG and go up by 3 scores.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 08, 2026, 09:39:31 PMNot that I care either way, but that's pretty common parlance in Dallas since he's been HC. My BIL calls him that and he gets referred to as such by Dallas sports radio/Cowboys bloggers. I would imagine it was probably something Herbstreit picked up during interviews/prep work around the organization this week. Not like it's some dorky inside nickname due to a friendship they have.
Sure it's his nickname. That's not what a national television announcer should use.
But I would expect that from a guy who uses a dog to shield his image.
It's Coach Mike Shuh-Shev-Skee, not Coach K.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 09, 2026, 10:38:11 AMIt's Coach Mike Shuh-Shev-Skee, not Coach K.
Different. And you know it. But that's cool.
Quote from: MU82 on October 09, 2026, 01:26:04 PMDifferent. And you know it. But that's cool.
Why is it different? Honest question. And what's it matter?
I think Herbstreit - Ibdon't dare call him Herbie - is a bit of a clown, but this (to me) seems harmless.
Because "Coach K" is ubiquitous. It's like calling William Belichick "Bill."
"Schottie" makes you sound oddly friendly and familiar. I have never once heard it used to describe him prior to last evening.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 09, 2026, 03:36:32 PMBecause "Coach K" is ubiquitous. It's like calling William Belichick "Bill."
"Schottie" makes you sound oddly friendly and familiar. I have never once heard it used to describe him prior to last evening.
Incredibly subjective.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 09, 2026, 03:17:54 PMWhy is it different? Honest question. And what's it matter?
I think Herbstreit - Ibdon't dare call him Herbie - is a bit of a clown, but this (to me) seems harmless.
Sure it's harmless. Doesn't hurt anybody or anything. But it's not the same as Coach K, and you know it.
Say "Coach K" to even the most casual sports fan, and he or she immediately knows who it is. It's the decades-long nickname for one of the most successful and best-known sports figures in history. It's like "Magic."
Now do the same for "Schottie." Most will have no clue, though some might think it's Marge Schott's dog.
Truly surprised you're making the argument, Pak.
Quote from: MU82 on October 09, 2026, 04:48:22 PMSure it's harmless. Doesn't hurt anybody or anything. But it's not the same as Coach K, and you know it.
Say "Coach K" to even the most casual sports fan, and he or she immediately knows who it is. It's the decades-long nickname for one of the most successful and best-known sports figures in history. It's like "Magic."
Now do the same for "Schottie." Most will have no clue, though some might think it's Marge Schott's dog.
Truly surprised you're making the argument, Pak.
But it's not a studio show or a vague article about the NFL as a whole. You're watching a Cowboys game, there is no confusion as to who "Schotty" is referring to.
Like I said earlier, you Google or search "Schotty" and hundreds of Cowboys related mentions and blog posts immediately. As a result, I would bet significantly that a large subset of the people in the Cowboys organization refer to him as such as well. Which is where a color guy would pick it up as their job is convey that sort of stuff in an entertaining fashion.
I'm not surprised that people hadn't heard him referred to as such, outside of Dallas. He's been an NFL HC for 20 games and hasn't yet won 10. Plenty of casual fans probably don't even know his first name if unprompted.
But again, it's just entertainment. I don't know why it sounds any less "professional". It's far more annoying and dorky when the color guy feels the need to fawn over anything positive a bang average QB does or employs insane hyperbole about what a football savant a career .500 coach is cause he happens to be the home team on the broadcast.
Quote from: MU82 on October 09, 2026, 04:48:22 PMSure it's harmless. Doesn't hurt anybody or anything. But it's not the same as Coach K, and you know it.
Say "Coach K" to even the most casual sports fan, and he or she immediately knows who it is. It's the decades-long nickname for one of the most successful and best-known sports figures in history. It's like "Magic."
Now do the same for "Schottie." Most will have no clue, though some might think it's Marge Schott's dog.
Truly surprised you're making the argument, Pak.
It's an argument only inasmuch as I don't think it's something worth consternation, or even a second thought. I'm saying, why does it matter? If you find it distracting, OK, fair. But sports broadcasters have used nicknames when calling games forever, even for coaches (The Dean, Big Tuna, Riverboat Ron, JoePa, The Ol Ball Coach).
As for Coach K ... at some point, not even the most casual sports fan knew what that meant. He didn't come out of the womb as Coach K. Some broadcaster started calling him that not because it was a well-established shorthand, but because it was easier than pronouncing his full name. And it eventually caught on from there ... because it was easier for everyone else, too.
Will "Schottie" have a similar fate? I very much doubt it, for reasons not the least of which that Schottie very likely won't be a head coach for four more decades... and maybe not four more games.
MHJ traded ... but no one saying where yet.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2026, 10:23:49 AMMHJ traded ... but no one saying where yet.
No one wants to admit trading for him?
They could have gotten more if they waited until after he torched the Lions secondary for 15 receptions and 240 yards.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2026, 07:55:49 AMIt's an argument only inasmuch as I don't think it's something worth consternation, or even a second thought. I'm saying, why does it matter? If you find it distracting, OK, fair. But sports broadcasters have used nicknames when calling games forever, even for coaches (The Dean, Big Tuna, Riverboat Ron, JoePa, The Ol Ball Coach).
As for Coach K ... at some point, not even the most casual sports fan knew what that meant. He didn't come out of the womb as Coach K. Some broadcaster started calling him that not because it was a well-established shorthand, but because it was easier than pronouncing his full name. And it eventually caught on from there ... because it was easier for everyone else, too.
Will "Schottie" have a similar fate? I very much doubt it, for reasons not the least of which that Schottie very likely won't be a head coach for four more decades... and maybe not four more games.
Who will ever forget Coach K's rival at UNC - Dean Smith. Or as Herbstreit called him, "Smitty"!
Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2026, 10:23:49 AMMHJ traded ... but no one saying where yet.
the first ever trade between an NFL and CFL team. Just waiting to confirm legality.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2026, 10:23:49 AMMHJ traded ... but no one saying where yet.
https://x.com/GregVorse/status/2108968249157423499?s=20 (https://x.com/GregVorse/status/2108968249157423499?s=20)
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on October 10, 2026, 02:47:35 PMhttps://x.com/GregVorse/status/2108968249157423499?s=20 (https://x.com/GregVorse/status/2108968249157423499?s=20)
MHJ to the Dodgers?
Terrible 1st series for the Bears. Attack.
The Bears are simply not ready to play.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 11, 2026, 12:17:01 PMThe Bears are simply not ready to play.
Please don't call game over. Sincerely, the Packers fans here.
Muggsy, you gotta sit out any bears commentary.
Bagent is terrible
Quote from: wadesworld on October 11, 2026, 12:22:47 PMPlease don't call game over. Sincerely, the Packers fans here.
Ballgame. :)
It's not the Bears fault. Clearly not Bears weather yet
Good thing Coach Ditka isn't alive to see this.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 11, 2026, 12:23:09 PMMuggsy, you gotta sit out any bears commentary.
Bagent is terrible
Still the second best QB in the NFC North though. Especially with 9 out.
Just a pathetic/inexcusable performance by the Bears.
Disgusting levels of competence on display by the Packers. Don't know what to do with this.
Looks like #1/2 bears RB out this game too
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 11, 2026, 12:40:18 PMDisgusting levels of competence on display by the Packers. Don't know what to do with this.
And the run has been firmly established.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 11, 2026, 12:41:51 PMLooks like #1/2 bears RB out this game too
Yes. That's not helping. I would say #1 rb.
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 11, 2026, 12:40:18 PMDisgusting levels of competence on display by the Packers. Don't know what to do with this.
Much better.
The Bears have not been good punching it in 1st and goal. They must get 7 here.
Awful.
Whew.
I've heard you can gain lots of yards on 2 yard passes.
Quote from: Jockey on October 11, 2026, 01:12:41 PMI've heard you can gain lots of yards on 2 yard passes.
Playing the field possession game
Just a terrible job by the Bears there.
Much more comfortable levels of incompetence
Effing masterclass
Quote from: The Sultan on October 11, 2026, 12:42:28 PMAnd the run has been firmly established.
It is now disestablished
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 11, 2026, 01:19:24 PMMuch more comfortable levels of incompetence
My kingdom for a disciplined team.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 11, 2026, 01:21:23 PMIt is now disestablished
I knew it was tenuous when they did not run a single jet sweep
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 11, 2026, 01:24:57 PMI knew it was tenuous when they did not run a single jet sweep
Glad they're trying to get Bo Melton involved
Ball don't lie
Terrible defense.
Watson contract worth every penny if he stays healthy
Too many injuries to overcome
I'm still not 100% sure why bagent is playing
One more interception and I think Love will supplant Bagent as the 3rd best QB in the division
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 11, 2026, 02:17:42 PMI'm still not 100% sure why bagent is playing
Ben knows football.
Ditka looking up at this game with dismay
This game doesn't even count. Caleb is a much better CB than Jaylon Johnson.
SKOL!! 2 game lead. #HugeHands
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2026, 02:49:42 PMSKOL!! 2 game lead. #HugeHands
The lady doth protest too much. Must be embarrassing not being able to hold a football.
Who Ditka was a Jordan Love fan?
The ending of the Commanders-Giants game was, really, the whole overtime, a true masterpiece
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2026, 04:06:41 PMThe ending of the Commanders-Giants game was, really, the whole overtime, a true masterpiece
If ever a game deserved to end in a tie ...
All four NFC East teams are in the bottom third of the league right now.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2026, 02:50:34 PMThe lady doth protest too much. Must be embarrassing not being able to hold a football.
Lucky for JB, a football is not the size he wants to hold in his hands.
Was driving during the game. Based on Muggsy's posts I assume the bears won (I don't use google).
I love listening to Bears post-game radio after their many bad games against the Packers. Listening right now to The Score, a Bear fan actually called in and said that Ben Johnson intentionally lost this game so the Bear's players will be more motivated when they play in Chicago later this season.
Wow, that's some world class dumb.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on October 11, 2026, 04:23:14 PMWas driving during the game. Based on Muggsy's posts I assume the bears won (I don't use google).
I wrote ballgame (for the Packers) halfway through the 1Q. WTF are you talking about?
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 11, 2026, 04:32:07 PMI wrote ballgame (for the Packers) halfway through the 1Q. WTF are you talking about?
He doesn't use google
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2026, 04:35:26 PMHe doesn't use google
It's not a crime to dislike and not use Google.
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 11, 2026, 05:01:36 PMIt's nor a crime to dislike and not uee Google.
Your spelling, on the other (tiny) hand...
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 11, 2026, 05:01:36 PMIt's not a crime to dislike and not use Google.
That's why CreightonWarrior doesn't use it and relies on Scoop
Quote from: PointWarrior on October 11, 2026, 04:24:17 PMI love listening to Bears post-game radio after their many bad games against the Packers. Listening right now to The Score, a Bear fan actually called in and said that Ben Johnson intentionally lost this game so the Bear's players will be more motivated when they play in Chicago later this season.
Wow, that's some world class dumb.
If it's not for the dumb takes, what exactly are listening to sports radio postgame shows for?
Quote from: Pakuni on October 11, 2026, 05:47:17 PMIf it's not for the dumb takes, what exactly are listening to sports radio postgame shows for?
Or message boards?
Can any knowledgeable football fan inform me what Ben saw out of Bagent during the Jets game that made Ben think Tyson should be the starter today?
Brutal ending for the Seahawks today, but a well-earned loss.
Probably a very entertaining game for those not rooting for one of the participants.
You mean they won't be 19-1 now, I guess we will have to settle for 18-2.
Quote from: MU82 on October 11, 2026, 07:49:43 PMBrutal ending for the Seahawks today, but a well-earned loss.
Probably a very entertaining game for those not rooting for one of the participants.
Quote from: PointWarrior on October 11, 2026, 08:47:37 PMYou mean they won't be 19-1 now, I guess we will have to settle for 18-2.
Maybe 3-14. Who knows?
Since November 4, 2013, the Bears are 5-22 against the Packers. Their 5 wins have been by a combined 23 points. The Packers beat them by 24 yesterday.
QB development continues to be an interesting watch in the NFL.
Titans and Cam Ward are a mess. Second coordinator and offense in two years and looks completely loss and the game being way too fast for him.
Bo Nix looks bad, or at least average at best at the moment.
The Chargers brought in Harbaugh to get Herbert to the next level and he is cratering instead.
The Dolphins do not have a QB on the roster who you can win with.
At least Drake Maye has been better the last few weeks and we may see Mendoza in Las Vegas sooner than later but the league sure is full of some poor QB play.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2026, 09:25:02 AMDoes he have tiny hands, too?
Jaybe is furiously searching for him on Grindr
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2026, 09:35:17 AMQB development continues to be an interesting watch in the NFL.
Titans and Cam Ward are a mess. Second coordinator and offense in two years and looks completely loss and the game being way too fast for him.
Bo Nix looks bad, or at least average at best at the moment.
The Chargers brought in Harbaugh to get Herbert to the next level and he is cratering instead.
The Dolphins do not have a QB on the roster who you can win with.
At least Drake Maye has been better the last few weeks and we may see Mendoza in Las Vegas sooner than later but the league sure is full of some poor QB play.
Sure appears as though the defense is ahead of the offense when it comes to college guys moving to the NFL
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 12, 2026, 10:03:45 AMSure appears as though the defense is ahead of the offense when it comes to college guys moving to the NFL
I think how they're developed in college has a lot to do with the learning curve in the NFL. Guys are certainly less polished.
It's an interesting issue. Brian Daboll parlayed his success with Josh Allen into the Giants job. Maybe Allen was just good regardless and Daboll didn't really help his "development".
Don't think there's an easy answer but QB play this year hasn't been great.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2026, 10:15:55 AMI think how they're developed in college has a lot to do with the learning curve in the NFL. Guys are certainly less polished.
It's an interesting issue. Brian Daboll parlayed his success with Josh Allen into the Giants job. Maybe Allen was just good regardless and Daboll didn't really help his "development".
Don't think there's an easy answer but QB play this year hasn't been great.
Tyson Bagent being the lone exception, of course
Dentists and friends being so wrong about Love. Stunning
Gotta admit: This is some high-quality trash-talk from Mike Evans after he burned Trevon Diggs ...
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Only one team that started a season 0-4 made the playoffs (1992 Chargers), but the Texans are giving up a second-rounder - potentially high second rounder - for MHJ.
Their schedule definitely eases up the rest of the season, but I really don't get this. A potential top 40, and likely top 50, pick for what's been a mediocre player who's out of a contract in a year is pretty risky.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2026, 01:07:06 PMOnly one team that started a season 0-4 made the playoffs (1992 Chargers), but the Texans are giving up a second-rounder - potentially high second rounder - for MHJ.
Their schedule definitely eases up the rest of the season, but I really don't get this. A potential top 40, and likely top 50, pick for what's been a mediocre player who's out of a contract in a year is pretty risky.
Gambling on the fact the Jags are the only other threat in the division. I think the Jags are probably better but they still have 2 games against them.
The more you read about Harrison, though, the less likely I believe the lights go on for him. I'm not wholly convinced he wants to play football.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2026, 02:15:38 PMI'm not wholly convinced he wants to play football.
I think he was fine with it when he got to run through Purdue's secondary. Not sure he is all that interested in facing NFL defenses.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 12, 2026, 02:24:55 PMI think he was fine with it when he got to run through Purdue's secondary. Not sure he is all that interested in facing NFL defenses.
There are some personality quirks, too, and from the sounds of it, a demanding father
Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2026, 01:07:06 PMOnly one team that started a season 0-4 made the playoffs (1992 Chargers), but the Texans are giving up a second-rounder - potentially high second rounder - for MHJ.
Their schedule definitely eases up the rest of the season, but I really don't get this. A potential top 40, and likely top 50, pick for what's been a mediocre player who's out of a contract in a year is pretty risky.
On one hand I get it. You're trading for a top 5 pick who is still relatively young and had a good rookie year before things unraveled. The Texans are thin at WR without Tank Dell and, not for nothing, MHJ's best season at OSU was with Stroud throwing him the ball.
But even beyond the contract piece, the Texan's passing offense has still been good. That's not the reason they are losing games, so kind of odd to spend on that portion of team. Not to mention Tank Dell should be back by November
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2026, 02:15:38 PMI'm not wholly convinced he wants to play football.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 12, 2026, 02:24:55 PMI think he was fine with it when he got to run through Purdue's secondary. Not sure he is all that interested in facing NFL defenses.
It is really fascinating the guys who LOVE football and all the grind/build that goes into it...and those who played cause it was fun when they were more athletic/better than everyone else growing up or who slotted into it cause that is what they were "most good" at. Usually both types of the latter wash out in college, but then again, most don't have MHJ's pedigree and parental experience/push.
I certainly don't want to get on Marvin Harrison's bad side :o
Boy, that was some sus clock management by McVay there.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2026, 10:21:17 PMBoy, that was some sus clock management by McVay there.
Should have gone for 2
Huh. Another unbeatable, big-money, superstar-loaded L.A. team does its thing.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2026, 10:21:17 PMBoy, that was some sus clock management by McVay there.
Had to one up the insanity that was Joe Brady clock management at the end of the first half. Bills get the ball on their 12 with 1:52 left and all 3 TOs. 2 yard rush on 1st down. Let the clock get all the way down to 1:11, complete a 7 yard pass. 3rd and 1...let the clock run all the way down to 0:37 before panicking and calling a TO. Then immediately commit a penalty out of the TO and then Allen threw the pick on 3rd and 6.
In a vacuum, ok you are deep in your own territory and you don't want to give the Rams the ball back...but you have an MVP caliber QB and all 3 TOs and a full 2 min, what the hell are you doing?
Fun game. When Cook fumbled in OT, I was sure the Bills were gonna lose. But the Rams' special teams rarely disappoint!
Montez Sweat suspended for two games for cheating like a dog
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2026, 04:29:55 PMMontez Sweat suspended for two games for cheating like a dog
Only two games?
Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2026, 10:21:17 PMBoy, that was some sus clock management by McVay there.
The clock management was dumb, but it didn't hurt us. The really bad call was going for two just as the fourth quarter was starting. We didn't get it. Therefore, we were tied at the end of regulation instead of being up by one.
Flores isn't a head coach because he didn't fit in with the good ol' boys ...
When now-Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores was up for consideration for head-coaching jobs in 2024, recruiting firm Korn Ferry compiled a memo about the coach that was awash in racial stereotypes, his lawyers said yesterday. The memo came to light as part of Flores' discrimination lawsuit against the NFL and several teams.
The memo said Flores, who is Black, was "polished and a good presenter despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn (same as Mike Tyson)." It also said Flores had gotten opportunities to "socialize and learn how to build relationships with white-collar and upper-class individuals," but added he "can fool you with his polish upwards" and "has little people skills." The case continues to proceed toward open court.
Quote from: MU82 on October 14, 2026, 10:32:43 AMFlores isn't a head coach because he didn't fit in with the good ol' boys ...
When now-Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores was up for consideration for head-coaching jobs in 2024, recruiting firm Korn Ferry compiled a memo about the coach that was awash in racial stereotypes, his lawyers said yesterday. The memo came to light as part of Flores' discrimination lawsuit against the NFL and several teams.
The memo said Flores, who is Black, was "polished and a good presenter despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn (same as Mike Tyson)." It also said Flores had gotten opportunities to "socialize and learn how to build relationships with white-collar and upper-class individuals," but added he "can fool you with his polish upwards" and "has little people skills." The case continues to proceed toward open court.
This is huge for Flores' case.
Reason being is I truly believe the main reason he isn't a HC is cause he is (or at least was) an pretty boy who was difficult to work with and his results weren't good enough to put up with it (especially if they thought they could get Payton). I think there has been a decent amount of non-circumstantial evidence of that. That is not uniquely a racial problem (see McDaniels, Josh). Also, interestingly, it seems that, beyond lack of success, a majority of the Belichik coaching tree from NE having comparability issues once they become HCs.
Subsequently, nobody wanted to touch him during an ongoing discrimination lawsuit against the NFL, which is completely reasonable and understandable on various levels (liability, distraction, etc...)
That being said, this memo, specifically the Brownsville background call out, is enough of a bad look to cast some doubt on everything. Sounds like it was written by a 75 year old man who doesn't talk to anyone under the age of 50
All my opinion of course. I was pretty keen on Flores to get the Bears job back in 22 when they hired Eberflus, but was alright with it not happening when more of the behind the scenes stuff from Miami came out.
Yeah, I think two things can be true...
1. The main reason Brian Flores isn't a head coach is because his previous results weren't good enough to deal with his prickly personality.
2. This memo is terribly racist and the NFL should be prepared to write a nice check to Flores soon.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 14, 2026, 11:09:20 AMYeah, I think two things can be true...
1. The main reason Brian Flores isn't a head coach is because his previous results weren't good enough to deal with his prickly personality.
2. This memo is terribly racist and the NFL should be prepared to write a nice check to Flores soon.
I'm not sure how the entire NFL gets held liable for the contents of a private consulting firm's memo. Or how exactly the contents of said memo - while no doubt playing into stereotypes - proves a league-wide conspiracy to discriminate against him.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2026, 12:26:33 PMI'm not sure how the entire NFL gets held liable for the contents of a private consulting firm's memo. Or how exactly the contents of said memo - while no doubt playing into stereotypes - proves a league-wide conspiracy to discriminate against him.
I think they'll settle so this goes away.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 14, 2026, 12:27:39 PMI think they'll settle so this goes away.
I wonder if Flores will settle, though? Feels like he might see this through.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 14, 2026, 12:27:39 PMI think they'll settle so this goes away.
Oh, absolutely. It benefits neither side for this to go to trial.
Same with the Gruden litigation.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2026, 12:30:27 PMI wonder if Flores will settle, though? Feels like he might see this through.
Not if he wants a head coaching job, and I think he would be a candidate for one after this year given his defense in Minnesota.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2026, 12:30:27 PMI wonder if Flores will settle, though? Feels like he might see this through.
Maybe, but I don't see how it benefits him to have his former assistants and employers publicly testify to what an a-hole he is.
Remember, we're only seeing the parts of the Korn Ferry report Flores' lawyers want us to see.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 14, 2026, 12:49:43 PMNot if he wants a head coaching job, and I think he would be a candidate for one after this year given his defense in Minnesota.
We're only 5-0. Plenty of time to f&&& this season up for us.
Montez Sweat just cost himself a bunch of money and his job in Chicago. I was never a fan of the trade to get him and the money he was paid. In totality, was not an awful deal, but no doubt a bad trade and sign. Poles continues to be a C+ GM. :(
Heard Caleb today says he may not be healthy for 5+ months. Bagent is the man. >:(
Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 15, 2026, 09:20:23 PMHeard Caleb today says he may not be healthy for 5+ months. Bagent is the man. >:(
You sure have some great hot takes
Josh Jacobs is totally exonerated
Teal?
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 16, 2026, 03:20:00 PMJosh Jacobs is totally exonerated
Cut his a$$.
Better yet, trade him to the Seahawks.
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 16, 2026, 03:20:00 PMJosh Jacobs is totally exonerated
"
I don't think that word means what you think it means"
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 16, 2026, 03:55:43 PMYes it's a joke and they should cut him
He'll be at LSU within a week.
London game on a bad field, it appears
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2026, 09:40:36 AMLondon game on a bad field, it appears
probably not America made.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on October 18, 2026, 11:36:06 AMprobably not America made.
Right? If it was, we'd see more ACL tears
One month after nearly having his leg amputated, good to see Caleb Williams back
Idk I think Bagent is preferable. He just carries himself with more class
Quote from: Dish on September 27, 2026, 03:39:54 PMThe hook & ladder is the most underutilized play in football.
https://x.com/sean_hammond/status/2111867656840061393
Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 18, 2026, 12:11:47 PMIdk I think Bagent is preferable. He just carries himself with more class
Yep. He doesn't paint his nails.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 18, 2026, 12:19:06 PMhttps://x.com/sean_hammond/status/2111867656840061393
He must be mad after getting pantsted by LaFleur
If the Bears lose this game, Ben Johnson should be fired on the tarmac.
Just absurd pulling your starters.
At least the Bears' fans got a good "Green Bay sucks" chant going when the injury cart was out on the field. And that's what really counts.
Quote from: Dish on October 18, 2026, 03:06:02 PMIf the Bears lose this game, Ben Johnson should be fired on the tarmac.
Just absurd pulling your starters.
Pulling starters at start of 4th was a choice...
Anyway, incredible come back games for Caleb and Gordon
Quote from: The Sultan on October 18, 2026, 12:23:14 PMYep. He doesn't paint his nails.
I'm guessing this is the going standard opinion of the jacka$$es chanting GB sucks during the serious injury
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2026, 12:05:07 PMOne month after nearly having his leg amputated, good to see Caleb Williams back
I mean, he did have to miss a month. But sure, the memes that he overreacted to a hangnail that wasn't even gonna sideline him for one game were fun.
Quote from: MU82 on October 18, 2026, 03:48:04 PMI mean, he did have to miss a month. But sure, the memes that he overreacted to a hangnail that wasn't even gonna sideline him for one game were fun.
Rico would never talk about the bears in hyperbole.
Quote from: MU82 on October 18, 2026, 03:48:04 PMI mean, he did have to miss a month. But sure, the memes that he overreacted to a hangnail that wasn't even gonna sideline him for one game were fun.
I thought for sure his career was over.
Mahomes threw an end zone interception every bit as idiotic as any ever thrown by Herbert or Darnold or Maye.
Meanwhile, I almost feel sorry for Eagles fans - 6 weeks in, they already know their season is over. Almost.
Do they have any DBs available for cheap?
I said before the season I was trying to convince myself that the Rams would miss the playoffs. I should have tried harder.
Yeah, Dish, how bout that? The Greatest NFL Team Ever Assembled just lost to an Arizona team that couldn't even score a TD. Some really curious decisions by McVay, and Stafford was meh.
The Rams are actually fortunate to not be 1-5.
The Cardinals are 2-0 at SoFi this season, 0-4 everywhere else.
Rams and Seahawks meet in weeks 16 and 18.
It's possible those games will be for draft position instead of playoff position.
As I said last week, Lloyd is a fraud.
I'd rather see Muggsy run the ball.
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 07:33:46 PMAs I said last week, Lloyd is a fraud.
I'd rather see Muggsy run the ball.
Muggsy lacks focus
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 07:33:46 PMAs I said last week, Lloyd is a fraud.
I'd rather see Muggsy run the ball.
well he can just run underneath everyone's arms.
Zebras off to a banner night
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2026, 07:35:23 PMMuggsy lacks focus
Yeah, maybe. But he's got a 5 point plan.
Just throw the ball every play.
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 07:41:12 PMYeah, maybe. But he's got a 5 point plan.
I prefer RBs that don't beat women or commit war crimes
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2026, 07:43:16 PMI prefer RBs that don't beat women or commit war crimes
So no dentists
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 07:33:46 PMAs I said last week, Lloyd is a fraud.
I'd rather see Muggsy run the ball.
A fraud? Can you be a fraud when only Gutey ever thought you were any good?
I know it's still very early and Matt Lefleur will somehow screw this up but I did not at all understand the spread on this game. Incredibly bizarre.
I would rather watch John Kuhn dive plays than whatever Lloyd is doing.
Extend MLF!
Packers receivers should drop more touchdowns. Love is absolutely dealing.
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 18, 2026, 09:27:01 PMPackers receivers should drop more touchdowns. Love is absolutely dealing.
He shouldn't be gambling
Through three quarters, neither Tirico nor Collinsworth has referred to the Cowboys' coach as "Schottie."
Would love a TD here so I can go to bed.
What in the fck are these refs doing???
This is definitely a football game
The Packers can only do so much with this line and this running game.
These officials need to be investigated
Oh come on.
That was a horrendous roughing the passer call, just absurd.
These are the same umps that screwed the Badgers last night
These refs need to be put in front of the Ft Hood firing squad
Wow. This team is stupid.
Reflects the coach.
These calls are absolutely ridiculous.
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 10:22:32 PMWow. This ten is stupid.
Reflects the coach.
Not one of these have been penalties
Quote from: Jockey on October 18, 2026, 10:22:32 PMWow. This ten is stupid.
Reflects the coach.
??? Neither of those were roughing. Awful calls.
I'd argue the second roughing call wasn't good either.
Quote from: Dish on October 18, 2026, 10:25:59 PMI'd argue the second roughing call wasn't good either.
Not late. Not to the head. No bodyweight.
Awful call.
Man have there been a lot of dropped passes today.
I really hope the refs hit their quota today.
Edit: they must have because that was the most blatant OPI of all time
Quote from: The Sultan on October 18, 2026, 10:26:55 PMNot late. Not to the head. No bodyweight.
Awful call.
Why even bother having refs?
Between the officiating, Packers run game, Packers drops, and Cowboys inexplicable game plan on both sides of the ball, NBC got their money's worth tonight
NFC East is 2-7-2 in the month of October.
Well, Love was money all night. Other than that, kind of a rough game.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2026, 10:51:07 PMBetween the officiating, Packers run game, Packers drops, and Cowboys inexplicable game plan on both sides of the ball, NBC got their money's worth tonight
I just can't believe that Tirico and Collinsworth kept calling the Dallas coach "Brian Schottenheimer."
It's Schottie, ya dopes! Just ask Herbie!
Quote from: The Sultan on October 18, 2026, 03:31:57 PMAt least the Bears' fans got a good "Green Bay sucks" chant going when the injury cart was out on the field. And that's what really counts.
Apparently the context was a Packers fan in the stands chirping at bears fans. Nothing to do with what was happening on the field
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DepaBdfzWxU/?rpxt=MXYwYzFlMGFxOXQ3OA==
Between the taunting and RTP penalties sometimes the NFl makes it too obvious that the refs jobs are to manage a spread vs officiate a football game.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 19, 2026, 03:41:12 AMApparently the context was a Packers fan in the stands chirping at bears fans. Nothing to do with what was happening on the field
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DepaBdfzWxU/?rpxt=MXYwYzFlMGFxOXQ3OA==
LOL. Still very lame.
Quote from: The Sultan on October 19, 2026, 07:55:48 AMLOL. Still very lame.
Bears fans struggle with contextual awareness to know what sporting event they're at so this isn't super surprising
Breathe on any QB, and you get a roughing penalty.
Meanwhile, Eagles PR Britain Covey was almost beheaded by a clothesline tackle ... and nothing.
https://x.com/TSN_Sports/status/2111898852467122344
Yes, if you watch the clip you'll see a penalty flag flying ... but the call was on an Eagles player for holding!
Lot of people in Philly should be getting fired
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 19, 2026, 09:45:08 AMLot of people in Philly should be getting fired
I mean other than the head coach seemingly not doing anything to contribute to anything, it seems they are handling this the right way unless I'm missing something.
I wish Jalen a full and speedy recovery and look forward to watching him refuse to throw to the middle of the field next season.
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 19, 2026, 09:53:26 AMI mean other than the head coach seemingly not doing anything to contribute to anything, it seems they are handling this the right way unless I'm missing something.
I wish Jalen a full and speedy recovery and look forward to watching him refuse to throw to the middle of the field next season.
Nevermind I'm caught up. Fire everyone.
From The Athletic:
For all the criticism directed at first-year Chargers offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel, Just Herbert's decline dates to Jim Harbaugh's arrival in 2024.
Herbert ranked seventh in expected points added per pass play under two other head coaches and three offensive coordinators across his first four seasons. He ranks 23rd under Harbaugh, and the trend is unmistakable (12th in 2024, 21st last season and 32nd this season).
Quote from: MU82 on October 19, 2026, 10:27:29 AMFrom The Athletic:
For all the criticism directed at first-year Chargers offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel, Just Herbert's decline dates to Jim Harbaugh's arrival in 2024.
Herbert ranked seventh in expected points added per pass play under two other head coaches and three offensive coordinators across his first four seasons. He ranks 23rd under Harbaugh, and the trend is unmistakable (12th in 2024, 21st last season and 32nd this season).
Lot of rumors about Herbert not really being locked in/committed to football. Would sort of seem to match up with his performance as of late.
McDaniel got a lot of heat at the end of his Miami tenure about QB play, but he had Tua playing really well before his head got absolutely scrambled. He hasn't stemmed the bleeding with Herbert but that may be beyond him if some of what is being talked about is true. FWIW, as bad as they've been overall, the Chargers have had a good rushing offense this year.
Ironically, if McDaniel gets fired, they likely promote Gase...who is the passing game coordinator...which has been atrocious.
Bad news from The Athletic ...
Jalen Hurts was diagnosed with blood clots in both of his lungs and will be out for the remainder of the season.
Quote from: MU82 on October 19, 2026, 10:27:29 AMFrom The Athletic:
For all the criticism directed at first-year Chargers offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel, Just Herbert's decline dates to Jim Harbaugh's arrival in 2024.
Herbert ranked seventh in expected points added per pass play under two other head coaches and three offensive coordinators across his first four seasons. He ranks 23rd under Harbaugh, and the trend is unmistakable (12th in 2024, 21st last season and 32nd this season).
Harbaugh also thought JJ McCarthy should have been the #1 overall pick in the draft.
Quote from: MU82 on October 19, 2026, 12:13:05 PMBad news from The Athletic ...
Jalen Hurts was diagnosed with blood clots in both of his lungs and will be out for the remainder of the season.
https://x.com/drjessemorse/status/2112196313722855875?s=46
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 19, 2026, 12:56:04 PMhttps://x.com/drjessemorse/status/2112196313722855875?s=46
Makes you think....
Quote from: GB Warrior on October 19, 2026, 12:56:04 PMhttps://x.com/drjessemorse/status/2112196313722855875?s=46
I would die laughing if we found out this was Rico's X account.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 19, 2026, 01:56:28 PMI would die laughing if we found out this was Rico's X account.
The vaccine is the second greatest killer of man after religion and this is further proof.
The Greatest Team Ever Assembled has messed up a bazillion times already ... and they've also been unlucky with bad bounces and injuries.
The latest:
Davonte Adams will miss 6-10 weeks. So one of the best red-zone players in the league could miss the rest of the regular season.
Also ...
DT Poona Ford ruptured his triceps and will be out for the season; DL Kobie Turner strained his groin and will miss multiple weeks; and K Blake Grupe's Rams career might be over after one quarter. He suffered a torn ACL trying to make a tackle, and the Rams say he's done for the year.
One thing about a Super Team in any sport is that depth can be an issue because big salaries are being paid to stars so there's less money for good role players. The Rams weren't an especially deep team when the season started, especially along the lines, and now they're un-deeper.
Any available DB's?
Quote from: tower912 on October 19, 2026, 05:33:56 PMAny available DB's?
The big-money DB they got from KC, Trent McDuffie, missed the last game. So probably not.
Don't forget that in addition to limiting their depth by stockpiling stars, the Rams opted not to use their #1 draft pick on a player who could have helped them this season, instead taking the QB they hope will one day replace Stafford. Kinda arrogant, really, though if Ty Simpson turns out to be any good it'll have been worth it.
The Detroit secondary is their achilles heel. I have been joking since the 80s that being a Detroit DB is akin to being a red shirt on an away mission on the OG Star Trek. Poor long term outlook. Signed on Tuesday, start on Sunday, injured in the third quarter.
Golf balls in a hackers bag playing a wooded golf course with lots of water. Can't become emotionally attached.
Quote from: MU82 on October 19, 2026, 08:45:19 AMBreathe on any QB, and you get a roughing penalty.
Meanwhile, Eagles PR Britain Covey was almost beheaded by a clothesline tackle ... and nothing.
https://x.com/TSN_Sports/status/2111898852467122344
Yes, if you watch the clip you'll see a penalty flag flying ... but the call was on an Eagles player for holding!
Punt returners are fungible. NFL-quality quarterbacks are not.
I also think there are too many soft roughing calls, but I get it.
Truly feel bad for Hurts. Not to get overly dramatic, but he's actually lucky to be alive.
Back-to-back rough endings for Jayden Daniels.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 19, 2026, 10:26:36 PMBack-to-back rough endings for Jayden Daniels.
The play on 4th and 3 from the 17 to throw a corner route to a covered Burks in the end zone was...a choice.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 20, 2026, 07:48:28 AMThe play on 4th and 3 from the 17 to throw a corner route to a covered Burks in the end zone was...a choice.
Apparently both him and the coach didn't realize it was 4th down.
Quote from: MU82 on October 19, 2026, 06:57:24 PMTruly feel bad for Hurts. Not to get overly dramatic, but he's actually lucky to be alive.
You're
not being overly dramatic. Just stating the truth.
"You're lucky to be alive" were the very words my primary care doc said to me after he read the surgeon's notes from my heart surgery. I dodged a bullet. And if a blood clot travels to the brain? Hurts definitely could die from that.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 20, 2026, 04:02:02 PMYou're not being overly dramatic. Just stating the truth.
"You're lucky to be alive" were the very words my primary care doc said to me after he read the surgeon's notes from my heart surgery. I dodged a bullet. And if a blood clot travels to the brain? Hurts definitely could die from that.
It doesn't need to travel to your brain, a clot in your lungs is fatal very frequently.
Hurts is lucky to be alive.
Pulmonary embolisms are life and death.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2026, 05:09:15 PMIt doesn't need to travel to your brain, a clot in your lungs is fatal very frequently.
Hurts is lucky to be alive.
Pulmonary embolisms are life and death.
Especially if you have been vaccinated
mostly death....
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2026, 05:09:15 PMIt doesn't need to travel to your brain, a clot in your lungs is fatal very frequently.
Hurts is lucky to be alive.
Pulmonary embolisms are life and death.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 06:59:23 AMBrett Favre would have played through it
When you're consuming Vicodin like Tic Tacs like mid 90s Favre, you could probably play through a full limb amputation, much less a silly little embolism
Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 08:24:34 AMWhen you're consuming Vicodin like Tic Tacs like mid 90s Favre, you could probably play through a full limb amputation, much less a silly little embolism
I can guarantee you, he wouldn't have gotten an embolism because he wouldn't have taken the vax. And even if he did, nothing a copper bracelet couldn't have fixed
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/interactive/how-nfl-headsets-work-technology-coach-player-communications/?unlocked_article_code=1.KVE.AZSh.MGfMHjMnJS7j&source=emp_shared_interactive&smid=ta-ios-sharepp
Pretty fun article.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2026, 05:09:15 PMIt doesn't need to travel to your brain, a clot in your lungs is fatal very frequently.
Hurts is lucky to be alive.
Pulmonary embolisms are life and death.
I know all too well the seriousness of blood clots and they are extremely dangerous.
But FWIW, all the ex-players I've heard on tv and radio the past few days have consistently said the doctors have no allegiance to the team to get players back on the field or felt like coaches, management or owners have a say in the medical evaluations. Again, just from what I've heard in the media from ex-players.
Cowboys' season so far...
Schotty workmanship?
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:49:39 PMCowboys' seaso so far...
Schotty workmanship?
His name is Schottenheimer.
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 11:55:17 AMhttps://www.nytimes.com/athletic/interactive/how-nfl-headsets-work-technology-coach-player-communications/?unlocked_article_code=1.KVE.AZSh.MGfMHjMnJS7j&source=emp_shared_interactive&smid=ta-ios-sharepp
Pretty fun article.
You'd work hard to get concussed too after listening to Mike McDonald for an entire game