So after all the headlines and bluster, Kevin Warren accomplished exactly nothing with the Illinois legislature. So it is either take the deal in Hammond, or do everything in Arlington Heights on their own dime.
Brilliant stuff.
I4 Bears!
Quote from: The Sultan on June 01, 2026, 08:12:18 AMSo after all the headlines and bluster, Kevin Warren accomplished exactly nothing with the Illinois legislature. So it is either take the deal in Hammond, or do everything in Arlington Heights on their own dime.
Brilliant stuff.
While I not a big supporter of government funding private businesses, I think there are certain cases that some help can create more benefit for the state/city and justify the investment. I could see some level of support from the state of Illinois making sense, but Illinois had run their financial situation into the ground years ago and probably can't afford it. A lost opportunity for AH and Illinois.
Eh ... the Illinois General Assembly can be back in a special session as early as Friday, if they want. I wouldn't say this is over by a long stretch.
The bigger hurdle here may be convincing Arlington Heights that it's in their interests to own a football stadium.
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2061479901677428766?s=20
The polio vaccine claims another.
Raymond Berry dead at 93
Whoa ... Myles Garrett to the Rams.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 11:09:42 AMhttps://x.com/RapSheet/status/2061479901677428766?s=20
A blow to all NFL fans.
Taking Ty Simpson seems very odd if the Rams knew they were all in for 2026.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 12:35:41 PMWhoa ... Myles Garrett to the Rams.
Now Haslem can focus on trading Giannis.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 01, 2026, 01:08:10 PMNow Haslem can focus on trading Giannis.
Trade comp for Garrett looks a lot like Giannis for Chet
Give the Rams this, they're bold as hell.
Quote from: Dish on June 01, 2026, 12:59:08 PMTaking Ty Simpson seems very odd if the Rams knew they were all in for 2026.
Or, they figured they're going to be very good for the next two years and won't have another chance to draft a potential starting QB by the time Stafford retires after the 2027 season.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 08:51:54 AMEh ... the Illinois General Assembly can be back in a special session as early as Friday, if they want. I wouldn't say this is over by a long stretch.
The bigger hurdle here may be convincing Arlington Heights that it's in their interests to own a football stadium.
It's not "over" sure, but it just looks like there is no leverage. Hammond just isn't viable and everyone knows the McCaskeys don't want to be there - and I doubt the NFL wants them there either. I am sure they will throw a bone at the Bears, but it won't be the deal they wanted.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 02:21:02 PMOr, they figured they're going to be very good for the next two years and won't have another chance to draft a potential starting QB by the time Stafford retires after the 2027 season.
Sure, but the "eff dem draft picks" team to make that decision is odd to say the least.
Why not utilize an inexpensive asset to solidify your 2026 strategy? That doesn't even begin to question whether or not Simpson is even good.
As a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Not if they have to play in Bears weather
Quote from: Dish on June 01, 2026, 02:37:06 PMSure, but the "eff dem draft picks" team to make that decision is odd to say the least.
Why not utilize an inexpensive asset to solidify your 2026 strategy? That doesn't even begin to question whether or not Simpson is even good.
Oh, sure, I get why people question it. And it's a fair question. I'm just tossing out a possible explanation for it. Not terribly different from what the Packers did in 2020. Which, on the one hand, you can say worked out great because they got themselves another legit QB1. On the other hand, maybe they stay put, draft Tee Higgins and L'Jarius Sneed with their picks, and that gets them to another Super Bowl with Rodgers.
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Injury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Probably accounted for the fact that Garrett is a better player (for at least the next year or two)
Quote from: GB Warrior on June 01, 2026, 03:57:39 PMInjury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Probably accounted for the fact that Garrett is a better player (for at least the next year or two)
Also, Garrett is locked in on a contract with very reasonable cap hits for the next three seasons ... $8.1 million this year, $16 million in 2028, $21.4 million in 2029. Parsons needed to be paid.
Parsons is also three years younger than Garrett.
It was a great trade for the Rams, who despite not getting immediate value out of their 2026 #1 draft pick, have had a superb offseason and now appear to have no offensive or defensive weaknesses.
The Seahawks are still a formidable team, but I'd objectively rate the Rams as division favorites.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 01, 2026, 04:18:30 PMAlso, Garrett is locked in on a contract with very reasonable cap hits for the next three seasons ... $8.1 million this year, $16 million in 2028, $21.4 million in 2029. Parsons needed to be paid.
Great point here.
Quote from: GB Warrior on June 01, 2026, 03:57:39 PMInjury aside, Parsons was a better deal than this. Verse isn't elite but he's no slouch and certainly not on the back nine of his career like Clark was.
Yeah, Verse is awesome - he plays every down and the biggest knock is his high missed tackle %, which feels very fluky imo. I doubt he will be willing to play out his current contract for a crappy Browns team, but he is dirt cheap at the moment too.
hopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2026, 02:56:44 PMAs a Seahawks fan, I'm hoping the Rams get every bit as much of a postseason return in Year 1 of the trade as the Packers got from the Parsons trade.
Seriously, quite a move by the Rams. If their best players stay healthy, they should be the NFL's best team.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 02, 2026, 10:45:34 AMhopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
As a Packers fan, I'm jealous of the Seahawks success, too. It's a disgrace how better run they are than the Packers and are committed to winning titles and not just building sled hills.
Just wish we had some luck like being the 1-seed in the playoffs under LaFleur with a full roster and hall of fame QB. We'd be unstoppable.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 02, 2026, 10:51:59 AMAs a Packers fan, I'm jealous of the Seahawks success, too. It's a disgrace how better run they are than the Packers and are committed to winning titles and not just building sled hills.
Just wish we had some luck like being the 1-seed in the playoffs under LaFleur with a full roster and hall of fame QB. We'd be unstoppable.
And they're run by a guy who came up in Green Bay.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 12:01:09 PMAnd they're run by a guy who came up in Green Bay.
It's important to establish the run after all
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 02, 2026, 10:45:34 AMhopefully 5 years worth of injuries hit the seahawks this year at key posiitons (and not the QB1 of the teams they are playing).
I don't wish injuries on anybody. I know you're a good guy, so I'm surprised that's what you're doing.
Quote from: MU82 on June 02, 2026, 03:27:01 PMI don't wish injuries on anybody. I know you're a good guy, so I'm surprised that's what you're doing.
I'm guessing it was a reference about how we all have five years of Covid vaccine injuries but for some reason the Seahawks don't have the debilitating tremors yet
Caleb to Madden cover.
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The nails are going to generate nothing but positive response, I'm sure
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 03, 2026, 11:06:09 AMThe nails are going to generate nothing but positive response, I'm sure
I just hope Cole Palmer gets his share of the royalties. He could use some good news these days.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 03, 2026, 10:40:26 AMCaleb to Madden cover.
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Hammond, Indiana doesn't look like that
Great, just when the Bears get a young QB on the rise, here come the #distractions >:(
At least the Madden Curse has dissipated a bit. Pretty sure Josh Allen won MVP the year he was on the cover and CMC had a huge year after being on the cover the next year.
Social media response has been hilarious, naturally. The photoshopped Hammond covers have been great. As is the people that are acting like the Madden cover is supposed to be a direct reflection of PFF player rankings or something. Its pure marketing and buzz, and the young former #1 pick who just had a bunch of playoff heroics is plenty buzzy. Is Drake Maye a better QB right now? Sure. Does Drake Maye on the cover drive conversation and buzz outside of New England? Not especially.
https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2062557004841808328
ESPN sources: Green Bay WR Christian Watson and the Packers reached agreement today on a four-year, $110.5 million contract extension that includes a $31 million signing bonus.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 04, 2026, 10:37:06 AMhttps://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2062557004841808328
ESPN sources: Green Bay WR Christian Watson and the Packers reached agreement today on a four-year, $110.5 million contract extension that includes a $31 million signing bonus.
Righteous bucks for a guy with 133 catches over four seasons.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 04, 2026, 10:44:41 AMRighteous bucks for a guy with 133 catches over four seasons.
My thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2026, 11:07:27 AMMy thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Yep. I think he's better than his numbers, and could turn this into a surplus deal for the Packers if he stays healthy. But NFL players tend not to become less injury prone as they age.
This money would have been better used on Anders.
Watson stretches the field. The offense is a lot less dynamic without him out there.
His injuries concern me as do his mediocre hands.
Packers changed their trainer room last year... hopefully that helps him stay healthy.
Makes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 04, 2026, 11:44:08 AMWatson stretches the field. The offense is a lot less dynamic without him out there.
His injuries concern me as do his mediocre hands.
Packers changed their trainer room last year... hopefully that helps him stay healthy.
Makes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
I'm definitely worried about his health.
I think his hands have evolved and he's got really good but not great hands now. He had 7 drops his rookie season. He has 6 total drops the last three years (35 games). And he's made some incredible catches in that time period too.
Last year he also transformed into a really good full receiver, averaging 1100 yards and 10 TDs extrapolated out to a full season. If he stays on the field I think this ends up being a huge bargain. If he keeps getting hurt, not so much.
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2026, 11:07:27 AMMy thoughts exactly - talk about resetting the market for oft-injured, not-especially-productive WRs. I guess you're theoretically always paying for future expectations, not past accomplishments, but wow.
Maybe the Packers will finally get lucky
Quote from: BM1090 on June 04, 2026, 12:21:32 PMI'm definitely worried about his health.
I think his hands have evolved and he's got really good but not great hands now. He had 7 drops his rookie season. He has 6 total drops the last three years (35 games). And he's made some incredible catches in that time period too.
Last year he also transformed into a really good full receiver, averaging 1100 yards and 10 TDs extrapolated out to a full season. If he stays on the field I think this ends up being a huge bargain. If he keeps getting hurt, not so much.
His efficiency stats are near the top of the league. He's a legitimately top 20 WR when healthy. This deal will be defined by health and maybe MLF being willing to give volume to his best players in the passing game
Ah.
I see the Bears are trying to pressure Illinois lawmakers with Hammond again...
4-D chess by Kevin Warren. Any more masterful and Trump would pick him to negotiate with Iran
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 11:36:00 AMAh.
I see the Bears are trying to pressure Illinois lawmakers with Hammond again...
Did they ever stop with the Indiana possibility?
It will be Arlington Heights. Everyone knows this yet Kevin Warren still thinks he has leverage.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 05, 2026, 12:40:41 PMDid they ever stop with the Indiana possibility?
No but everyone knows they don't want to be there. The NFL doesn't want them there either. There won't be Super Bowls or Final Fours in Hammond.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2026, 01:17:43 PMIt will be Arlington Heights. Everyone knows this yet Kevin Warren still thinks he has leverage.
If anything this is just going to get the Illinois politicians more annoyed.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 01:52:56 PMNo but everyone knows they don't want to be there. The NFL doesn't want them there either. There won't be Super Bowls or Final Fours in Hammond.
Or restaurants, hotels, entertainment venues, $750k townhouses,$2,700 a month apartments, etc.
Even if the stadium deal is slightly worse for the Bears, the comparative value of the surrounding development more than makes up for it.
Maybe Chicago can get an expansion franchise when they add 2 new teams.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2026, 04:48:06 PMMaybe the Packers will finally get lucky
Maybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
Quote from: MU82 on June 05, 2026, 04:10:54 PMMaybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
If it's the packers backup though it's gonna be the second best qb in the division
Quote from: Shaka Shart on June 05, 2026, 05:11:35 PMIf it's the packers backup though it's gonna be the second best qb in the division
Bruh. That's been Tyson Bagent for a couple years now.
and injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Quote from: MU82 on June 05, 2026, 04:10:54 PMMaybe they'll get to play against 52 backup QBs next season.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 05, 2026, 08:46:49 PMand injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Exactly. 17 lucky wins.
I guess your pledge to show the champs respect if they beat the Rams has gone by the wayside, but that's OK. I get what it's like to be bitter about another team's championship success when the team I root for chokes and disappoints -
again.
Quote from: PointWarrior on June 05, 2026, 08:46:49 PMand injured division rivals down the stretch, and in the playoffs, and a deer in the headlights QB in the Superbowl...
Take the banner down, Seattle. Packer fans have spoken.
Anyone hear any news on a new sled hill?
Quote from: The Sultan on June 05, 2026, 01:53:55 PMIf anything this is just going to get the Illinois politicians more annoyed.
They could get Tom Crean to explain why the stadium should be in Hammond.
Businessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2026, 11:36:44 AMBusinessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
They have as many Super Bowl victories as the Packers since the merger. Makes you think.
Quote from: MU82 on June 10, 2026, 11:36:44 AMBusinessman Todd Boehly, who owns about 20% of the Dodgers, and (along with business partner Mark Walter) major stakes in Chelsea football and the Lakers, is reportedly interested in buying the Seahawks.
Whoever buys the team is expected to pay more than the record $6.05 billion that the Commanders went for 3 years ago.
Investing in Seattle? Good businessmen know when to zig when others zag.
Mahomes signs an extension to add 2 years onto his existing 6 year deal at just over $60MM per year, total deal value now over $500MM.
Obviously he's still an elite top 5 QB, but kind of wild timing given he'll be 5 years past his last MVP and last All Pro nod, 4 years since his last Pro Bowl, and coming over the 2 worst seasons of his career PLUS a major knee injury.
I think that run will be the last of Pat and Andy, if not sooner. With Kelce retiring next year, their window will be closing. Even their current team is a shell of the Super Bowl years. They'll always be good with PM behind center.
In all, I think the additional years are fine, because they're not guaranteed.
Interesting graphic I saw on The Athletic:
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https://x.com/i/status/2065485315335139690
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 12, 2026, 06:40:04 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/2065485315335139690
Classic.
With all the talk about the Bears potentially moving, I'm surprised no one here has mentioned the possibility of Congress dismantling the Sports Broadcasting Act, which potentially would be devastating for the Packers. That threat has been simmering for a few months now, and ironically Scott Fitzgerald (House-WI) has been leading the House subcommittee on the matter. For a variety of reasons, no team in professional sports in the US benefits from the SBA more than the Packers (I don't think that's bad/wrong either, it just is what it is).
Also to be clear, teams like Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis would also be effed if the SBA was dissolved.
Quote from: Dish on June 17, 2026, 01:06:21 AMWith all the talk about the Bears potentially moving, I'm surprised no one here has mentioned the possibility of Congress dismantling the Sports Broadcasting Act, which potentially would be devastating for the Packers. That threat has been simmering for a few months now, and ironically Scott Fitzgerald (House-WI) has been leading the House subcommittee on the matter. For a variety of reasons, no team in professional sports in the US benefits from the SBA more than the Packers (I don't think that's bad/wrong either, it just is what it is).
Also to be clear, teams like Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis would also be effed if the SBA was dissolved.
Dish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 04, 2026, 11:44:08 AMMakes him a top 20 paid reciever. I hope part of the contract is that Christian's dad has to shut down his twitter account.
I think he's a receiver. Nonetheless, I like that GB inked this deal. Dude sucks.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 17, 2026, 07:38:45 AMDish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
Agree but they've also had a 3+ decade run of success. I think the value of the SBA to a team like the Packers is girding them against any sort of downturn.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 17, 2026, 07:38:45 AMDish, as I understand this, they feel that the NFL is in violation of the SBA because of them moving to more streaming. It feels like the Packers are fighting back as part of a coordinated move as part of the NFL's broader effort to fight adjustments to the SBA.
I would also argue that the Packers at one point would have been screwed without the SBA, but the fanbase is pretty enormous right now and would do just fine.
There's certainly grandstanding going on in some capacity here (I'll leave that comment alone).
The Packers have an enormous fanbase, but that doesn't translate if they were on an island and had to come up with a local media rights deal to be self sufficient as their lead revenue stream. I would venture to guess any SBA change would prohibit a team doing their own streaming regional network (if you will).
Do I think a national shared media rights deal is going away completely? No, I certainly do not. I may be a Bears fan, but forcing Green Bay to move would be a gargantuan disaster.
NFL says thanks, but no thanks, to Brendan Sorsby.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The NFL has informed teams that it will NOT be holding a Supplemental Draft, meaning Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby will not be eligible to enter the NFL in 2026.
The CBA allows the league to decide whether to hold a Supplemental Draft, and this year, it won't.
I mean, that's pretty damn funny.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 23, 2026, 12:45:21 PMI mean, that's pretty damn funny.
What are the odds, right?
Sometimes when you bet on yourself, it doesn't work out.
If only he'd just killed a woman like Leonard Little did.
Man, I bet the various NFL lawyers all begged to write this letter. This was like shooting fish in a barrel.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2069475313617424663?s=20
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 23, 2026, 12:55:56 PMIf only he'd just killed a woman like Leonard Little did.
Leonard Little's presence on the field never required a fan, especially one who likes to gamble, to wonder whether a game was on the up and up.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 23, 2026, 05:44:49 PMLeonard Little's presence on the field never required a fan, especially one who likes to gamble, to wonder whether a game was on the up and up.
should have gone with teal.
All sports should support and encourage players or coaches or anyone involved to bet but only on their own team winning.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 23, 2026, 08:08:07 PMAll sports should support and encourage players or coaches or anyone involved to bet but only on their own team winning.
If they did this it'd pretty much guarantee a team would finally sign Anders to better their chances of actually winning. So I 100% support this.
Terrion Arnold charged with felonies that carry potential life in prison. What's crazy is the least egregious of the felonies is practicing dentistry.
Not a surprise.
Sorsby threatening a lawsuit. Also not a surprise.
Good luck to Sorsby, especially if the NFLPA has no interest in getting involved. (Why would they?) And even if he was successful and forced the NFL to hold a supplemental draft, do you actually think a team will draft him given everything?
He's best to work on his game, and fix his personal problems, in time for the 2027 draft.
Just when I was ready to concede the Bear's run of consecutive 'Off Season Championships'; Caleb send the Pope a bad ass jersey. Caleb is the master of last second victories!!!
Hang a banner and have a parade Chi-town.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 05, 2026, 04:25:31 PMJust when I was ready to concede the Bear's run of consecutive 'Off Season Championships'; Caleb send the Pope a bad ass jersey. Caleb is the master of last second victories!!!
Hang a banner and have a parade Chi-town.
It was a knockoff jersey. Presumably the best the McCaskeys could afford. The Indianas of jerseys if you will
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 05, 2026, 04:30:34 PMIt was a knockoff jersey. Presumably the best the McCaskeys could afford. The Indianas of jerseys if you will
Really beating off a dead horse huh BF?
The Seahawks were sold for $9.6 billion - nearly 60% more than the previous high paid for an NFL franchise.
The team was sold to the Khosla family, who have been minority owners of the 49ers. Vinod Khosla is a venture capitalist and co-founder of Sun Microsystems. His son Neal is the CEO of AI healthcare company Curai.
They will have to divest their stake in the 49ers before being allowed to take control of the Seahawks. The NFL board still must approve the sale.
Talk about your rough layoffs ...
ESPN has cut ties with NFL analyst Ryan Clark, sources briefed on the move told The Athletic.
Clark was on ESPN's "NFL Live" on Monday. He was informed of the decision during the show, said the sources, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. Clark did not finish the program.
Sources at ESPN say the reason they told Clark during the show was due to media inquiries into his departure and a fear that the news would leak out before they could inform him. ... ESPN's plan was to do that on Tuesday morning.
ESPN and its sister platform, NFL Network, are expected to have more layoffs Tuesday as part of broader cuts at their parent company, Disney. There are expected to be a small number of layoffs of on-air personalities based at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., as well as a larger number of employees, both on- and off-the-air, from NFL Network.
UPDATE:
Karl Ravech, who called last night's Phillies-Dodgers game, and NFL insider Tom Pelissero were also aid off Tuesday. Others reportedly getting axed as ESPN and the NFL Network consolidate: Cam Newton, David Lloyd, Stephania Bell, Bart Scott and Charles Davis.
Quote from: MU82 on July 21, 2026, 09:54:05 AMTalk about your rough layoffs ...
ESPN has cut ties with NFL analyst Ryan Clark, sources briefed on the move told The Athletic.
Clark was on ESPN's "NFL Live" on Monday. He was informed of the decision during the show, said the sources, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. Clark did not finish the program.
Sources at ESPN say the reason they told Clark during the show was due to media inquiries into his departure and a fear that the news would leak out before they could inform him. ... ESPN's plan was to do that on Tuesday morning.
ESPN and its sister platform, NFL Network, are expected to have more layoffs Tuesday as part of broader cuts at their parent company, Disney. There are expected to be a small number of layoffs of on-air personalities based at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., as well as a larger number of employees, both on- and off-the-air, from NFL Network.
UPDATE:
Karl Ravech, who called last night's Phillies-Dodgers game, and NFL insider Tom Pelissero were also aid off Tuesday. Others reportedly getting axed as ESPN and the NFL Network consolidate: Cam Newton, David Lloyd, Stephania Bell, Bart Scott and Charles Davis.
My guess is they were all canoodling with NFL HCs.
Diego Pavia doesn't even make it to training camp.
Came up short.
Please respect Muggsys privacy in these trying times
Do broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
Quote from: RJax55 on July 24, 2026, 01:08:15 PMDo broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
No one ever suspended Bill Raftery
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 23, 2026, 04:26:32 PMPlease respect Muggsys privacy in these trying times
Manatee wasn't on sale anyway at the grocery store. I'll refrain out of respect
Quote from: RJax55 on July 24, 2026, 01:08:15 PMDo broadcasters get suspended?
Too many High Noons for Tony at the Wisconsin Amateur.
Never would have suspected Mr. Summerall - I mean Mr. Romo - was a drinker.
He was such a rational color guy.
Quote from: Jockey on July 24, 2026, 06:32:00 PMNever would have suspected Mr. Summerall - I mean Mr. Romo - was a drinker.
He was such a rational color guy.
Our family took an elevator at Wrigley after a Cubs game as a kid; Mr. Caray shared the ride with us and could barely stand up.
I heard rumors he would drink occasionally. ;D
The Romo booking photo is pretty good (pawz). Bro looks high as a kite.
Uh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
Quote from: Shaka Shart on July 24, 2026, 10:45:20 PMUh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
Packers to Indiana?
Quote from: Shaka Shart on July 24, 2026, 10:45:20 PMUh oh
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49442413/packers-ceo-says-financial-bump-needed-stay-competitive
STOCK DRIVE
Or they'll have to have Milwaukee to bail them out again
Move to Mequon.
Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2026, 07:45:22 AMMove to Mequon.
They wouldn't be able to afford all the extra security
Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2026, 07:45:22 AMMove to Mequon.
This exceeds the number of minorities Steve Novak can tolerate
Terrible ... Eric Bienemy's wife shot at family home, allegedly by their son.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2026/07/27/eric-bieniemy-wife-shot-virginia-chiefs-coach/91062181007/
Thankfully, Mia Bieniemy is in in stable condition.
LEESBURG, Va. — The Washington Commanders announced the firing of tight ends coach Ben Steele on Monday following his recent arrest on suspicion of driving while intoxicated in Virginia.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7472643/2026/07/27/commanders-ben-steele-dwi-fired/?
Fortunately, Ben has his job covering Marquette hoops for the Milwaukee newspaper to fall back on!
Quote from: MU82 on July 28, 2026, 10:26:31 AMLEESBURG, Va. — The Washington Commanders announced the firing of tight ends coach Ben Steele on Monday following his recent arrest on suspicion of driving while intoxicated in Virginia.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7472643/2026/07/27/commanders-ben-steele-dwi-fired/?
Fortunately, Ben has his job covering Marquette hoops for the Milwaukee newspaper to fall back on!
Swift punishment! Good thing Shanahans accident wasn't fishy and is totally above board
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 28, 2026, 11:00:01 AMSwift punishment! Good thing Shanahans accident wasn't fishy and is totally above board
Someone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph streethttps://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Shanahan in a coma could beat a Matt LaFleur team in the playoffs
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
On the other hand ... from The Athletic:
Shanahan clarifies key detail on car accident
Kyle Shanahan had a group of reporters in his office to clear up the circumstances of his July 14 car crash. One key detail that was mishandled in a state database — it was Shanahan who crossed into oncoming traffic not the 21-year old driver of the other car.
Shanahan said his cell phone slid off his lap and he went to retrieve it. As he came back up the airbag had deployed, breaking his nose. He said he remembered the crash clearly and never lost consciousness. More details to come.
Quote from: Pakuni on July 28, 2026, 11:18:38 AMSomeone turned in front of him.
Public records from the California Crash Reporting System, a statewide database of collisions, show the accident occurred at 6:12 p.m. PT at Alma Street and Hamilton Avenue after a 21-year-old woman made an unsafe turn while driving a Mercedes SUV in the opposite direction on a four-lane, 25-mph street
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-accident-details-authorities/1952671/?partner=yahoo
Trust women
Rough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 03, 2026, 01:26:19 PMRough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
Good player. I wanted the Seahawks to keep him, and thought the Bears made a good signing. Hopefully he really won't need surgery and returns fully healthy for the second half of the season.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 03, 2026, 01:26:19 PMRough start for the Bears.
@AdamSchefter
Bears safety Coby Bryant is expected to be sidelined 8-10 weeks due to a hyperextended knee, bone bruise and small fracture that he suffered at today's practice, per sources. No surgery is expected to be needed.
This would just be a typical Monday for the Lions. Next man up.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 03, 2026, 02:41:55 PMThis would just be a typical Monday for the Lions. Next man up.
Difference is this safety didn't have karma waiting for him after trying to injure the opposite receivers.
Good luck to Atlanta with $22.5M of cap space on a RB. Yes, he's the best in the NFL and should be the highest paid RB, but that's too much on that position. Just one man's opinion.
Zay Flowers now the 4th highest paid WR.
I realize timing is everything, but...
Poles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 05:24:06 PMPoles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
They just need Bears weather
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 11, 2026, 05:28:35 PMThey just need Bears weather
And MLF on the other sideline.
Kyler Murray's job got easier
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 06:38:54 PMAnd MLF on the other sideline.
The NFC salivates at coaching against him in January
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 11, 2026, 06:41:12 PMThe NFC salivates at coaching against him in January
Yes, because that means they are in the playoffs.
Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2026, 06:46:40 PMYes, because that means they are in the playoffs.
The last time a Packer regular season ended before January 1 was 2019.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 05:24:06 PMPoles just lost his shinny new toy for the season. I guess the Bears will have to put up 42 points per game or hope the NFL goes back to the 1950's ground and pound offenses. :-\
Coby Bryant is a "shinny new object"? He's a good player, I wish the Seahawks had kept him, and I'm sorry he's injured ... but if
that's the injury that forces the Chicago offense to have to score 42 a game, then Poles didn't do a very good job this offseason.
Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2026, 06:40:07 PMKyler Murray's job got easier
Why?
Quote from: MU82 on August 11, 2026, 07:38:53 PMCoby Bryant is a "shinny new object"? He's a good player, I wish the Seahawks had kept him, and I'm sorry he's injured ... but if that's the injury that forces the Chicago offense to have to score 42 a game, then Poles didn't do a very good job this offseason.
Some would say you are stating the obvious.
Seriously, the injuries are significant in the secondary. Losing Bryant for the year is the icing on the cake. But, the Bears lead the NFL in most players' games missed due to injury last year, so maybe there is hope.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 06:38:54 PMAnd MLF on the other sideline.
At least he will have someone else challenging plays. Oh wait, he's too much of a pretty boy to give up that important duty.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 11, 2026, 07:01:57 PMThe last time a Packer regular season ended before January 1 was 2019.
Thank you creation of the 7 seed!
This is why the proletariat must win
https://www.foiaball.com/p/aaron-rodgers-secretly-bought-police-alpr-cameras
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 12, 2026, 08:07:38 AMThis is why the proletariat must win
https://www.foiaball.com/p/aaron-rodgers-secretly-bought-police-alpr-cameras
Insane behavior.
From The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
Quote from: MU82 on August 12, 2026, 11:20:27 AMFrom The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
I'm still boycotting over Kaeperneck and Bad Bunny's halftime show
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 11, 2026, 07:58:45 PMSome would say you are stating the obvious.
Seriously, the injuries are significant in the secondary. Losing Bryant for the year is the icing on the cake. But, the Bears lead the NFL in most players' games missed due to injury last year, so maybe there is hope.
Did they put in a new electrical substation near Halas Hall?
Quote from: MU82 on August 12, 2026, 11:20:27 AMFrom The Athletic:
7 million
That's how many people tuned in for the NFL's exhibition Hall of Fame Game last week between the Panthers and Cardinals, a stat that efficiently captures why the NFL is simply in another stratosphere than other sports (or anything else on TV).
For reference: The most-watched MLB game last week on national TV (White Sox-Guardians on Fox) had 2.2 million viewers. ESPN's Fever-Sky WNBA game Saturday on ABC was the second-most-watched WNBA game in network history and pulled in a mega 2.6 million viewers. That's not to dismiss either number, both of which were very strong — it's just to illustrate that the NFL is in an entirely different category.
That is shocking!
2.2M watched the Sox v Guardians???????
Kevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
Guy's a unnatural carnal knowledgeing clown
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
THEY REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME!!!!
Seriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 13, 2026, 01:16:23 PMSeriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
Build a stadium at the Foxconn location. Win-win
Quote from: The Sultan on August 13, 2026, 01:16:23 PMSeriously though, it is amazing to me that they still think that this leverage is going to work. That somehow, Illinois is going to trip over themselves to make a deal. It seems obvious that the state seems willing to do *something,* they aren't going to print money like Kansas did for the Chiefs - which is smart!
So my guess is that this either ends with them staying at Soldier Field, or with a half-a$$ stadium in Hammond. Which would be a complete failure by Bears management.
They really should just sell the team to smart and ruthless pretty boys instead of trotting poor George out there.
A little inside baseball here.
The Bears had a deal with Illinois that they could live with and that passed the state House in April.
Then KW, for whatever reason, started playing footsie with Brandon Johnson again. The Chicago delegation of the Illinois Senate - which hadn't yet passed the House bill - caught wind of this and instead passed a new bill that would give the team the same incentives whether they chose Arlington Heights or Chicago. But they passed it hours before the legislative session closed, and didn't give the House enough time to consider and vote on it. So nothing got through.
Once again, one man's pipe dream of building a lakefront vanity project is costing the team time and money.
Seahawks are signing CB Terrion Arnold despite his legal baggage.
It's an unusual move for the team, which has shied away from dealing with players who have external issues.
It's unknown if and when the NFL will weigh in and possibly suspend him.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2026, 12:41:07 PMKevin Warren in 2023: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2024: We are focused only on the lakefront.
Kevin Warren in 2025: We are focused only on Arlington Heights.
Kevin Warren in 2026: We are focused only on Northwest Indiana.
They should just threaten to build it in Kenosha at this point.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 13, 2026, 01:37:50 PMBuild a stadium at the Foxconn location. Win-win
Microsoft has already stolen most of that land.
Quote from: MU82 on August 13, 2026, 09:41:26 PMSeahawks are signing CB Terrion Arnold despite his legal baggage.
It's an unusual move for the team, which has shied away from dealing with players who have external issues.
It's unknown if and when the NFL will weigh in and possibly suspend him.
Is facing life in prison an real issue?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:41:49 AMIs facing life in prison an real issue?
He's only facing life in prison if he's convicted of a serious enough crime.
You do know that allegations aren't convictions and/or sentences, right?
BTW, I am not defending the signing, or attacking it. My post merely passed along the news. Teams in all leagues sign athletes who have been accused, convicted, even jailed. Some of those athletes have even gone on to be Hall of Famers. That's just the way it is.
Quote from: MU82 on August 14, 2026, 11:31:23 AMHe's only facing life in prison if he's convicted of a serious enough crime.
You do know that allegations aren't convictions and/or sentences, right?
BTW, I am not defending the signing, or attacking it. My post merely passed along the news. Teams in all leagues sign athletes who have been accused, convicted, even jailed. Some of those athletes have even gone on to be Hall of Famers. That's just the way it is.
I was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing
potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:16:17 PMI was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
His sentence will be commuted and he'll be forced to play his entire career with the Browns
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2026, 12:16:17 PMI was just being funny. You were the one who pointed out he was dealing "external issues". The external issue is a list of felonies that could result in life in prison. Not a very common "external issue" and slightly different than drugs, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.
I never said he was going to jail. I guess I could have said facing potential life in prison, but I didn't think anyone would examine my words on a flippant remark.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the signing. If he is not guilty, he deserves to play football or any career he wishes.
It's all good. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't come out in posts.
I've always been a big believer that most people deserve second chances, though I admit that I haven't followed Arnold's case closely. As always, the U.S. justice system (and NFL's justice system) will say a lot about whether he plays so much as one down for the Seahawks.
I don't even know if Arnold was any good during his two seasons with the Lions, though I have learned to trust the personnel decisions of John Schneider and Mike Macdonald.
He was meh.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2026, 05:32:39 PMHe was meh.
Thanks for your perspective, Tower.
Schneider and Macdonald haven't been perfect with their personnel decisions, but they've been darn good. So I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with any Seahawks acquisition, including this one. If he ever plays a down in Seattle, that is.
Detroit brought in a lot of secondary help prior to Arnold's escapade. This was considered a make or break season, as his first two had been marked by injuries and mediocre play.
Seahawks make Devon Witherspoon the highest-paid CB ever.
Vaxxed?
Would all 3 bears qbs start on the Browns
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 15, 2026, 04:06:08 PMWould all 3 bears qbs start on the Browns
Bagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 15, 2026, 04:11:54 PMBagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
When they play in Bears weather, no one in the league is better than any Bears QB
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 04:47:13 PMWhen they play in Bears weather, no one in the league is better than any Bears QB
Global warming is why their quarterback play has been suffering.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 15, 2026, 05:18:34 PMGlobal warming is why their quarterback play has been suffering.
Hammond weather will not help that.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
Yeah the underground radiation generates too much heat.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
Hammond is basically in Kentucky.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 15, 2026, 04:11:54 PMBagent is the second best QB in the NFCN. And Case Keenum might be 4th.
Tyson "Matt Flynn" bagent imo
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 15, 2026, 05:37:06 PMHammond weather will not help that.
I know the NFL talks about the testing of its helmets but doubt it's been tested in Chernobyl
Jeremiyah Love's 14 touches were by far the most in a preseason game by a first-round rookie RB in the past 10 seasons. Why give him so many? "I mean, it's a rookie that hadn't played," first-year head coach Mike LaFleur said, adding that he essentially decided to give him such a big workload just to see how Love could handle it.
Answer: Not well. Love sprained his ankle and is out for at least the rest of the preseason.
Has your team drafted two Hall of Fame kickers this decade?!
It's possible Tom Brady is no longer the greatest 6th round pick.
Anyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
I'm a big nfl fan and watch plenty of non-Packers game. I care less about preseason than trying to protect manatees.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2026, 09:43:53 PMAnyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
Zero interest in the games. Hell, it would be less than zero if that were mathematically possible.
The only thing that matters to me is that no one on my team gets hurt.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2026, 09:43:53 PMAnyone else have extremely limited to no interest in preseason NFL? I'm overall a fairly decently sized NFL fan and I've not been as excited about going into a Bears season in a decade plus, but I just have really no interest in watching the preseason. I'll read recaps and Bears writers perspectives on who has looked good, surprised, etc... but otherwise, I'm fine till September. I didn't even remember the Bears played today until my wife mentioned it. If you have a young rookie QB like the Raiders, ok, I get it. I was the same way a few years ago. But otherwise, its not good football at best (horrific at worst) and it just doesn't move the needle. I didn't want to watch a full half of Miller Moss at Louisville or USC, much less as a Bear.
Wow, really? NFL preseason is boring and not worth the time? You heard it here first folks. I was just going to post I long for the days of 6 preseason and 14 regular season games.
Is it like rooting for the White Sox in 2025?
Can't build a new stadium there if you can't restore power.
Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2026, 08:42:40 AMCan't build a new stadium there if you can't restore power.
That community should vote the right way and maybe Indiana leadership would care
https://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
You'll notice this didn't happen in East Israel
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 24, 2026, 11:49:55 AMYou'll notice this didn't happen in East Israel
That's what the settlers are calling it these days, too.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
Don't worry, Kraft sent him the number for his lawyer.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 11:05:03 AMhttps://x.com/tmz/status/2091910967219110287?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio prostitution-related case.
He's an owner. He'll be fine
Why are billionaires trying to get their rocks off in massage parlors and trailer parks?
Accused sexual assaulter Deshaun Watson, fresh off being booed repeatedly during a preseason home game, was named Cleveland's starting QB.
Just when you think the Browns can't get even more effed up ...
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 24, 2026, 12:53:12 PMHe's an owner. He'll be fine
As a Packers fan, I'm not willing to throw stones about another team's owner.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 24, 2026, 02:05:25 PMAs a Packers fan, I'm not willing to throw stones about another team's owner.
Precisely. Virginia McCaskey used to give out hand jobs to Indiana politicians to grease the wheels for the Bears back in the day
Quote from: MU82 on August 24, 2026, 01:58:00 PMAccused sexual assaulter Deshaun Watson, fresh off being booed repeatedly during a preseason home game, was named Cleveland's starting QB.
Just when you think the Browns can't get even more effed up ...
I don't know what they are supposed to do with him. Sanders is just as bad and I don't think Watson would be great as a back-up. And they can't afford to cut him.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 24, 2026, 02:30:16 PMI don't know what they are supposed to do with him. Sanders is just as bad and I don't think Watson would be great as a back-up. And they can't afford to cut him.
Jimmy Haslam, baby!
My brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
Quote from: Dish on August 24, 2026, 04:17:37 PMMy brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
A Domer paying for sex? "Not surprised". ;D
Quote from: Dish on August 24, 2026, 04:17:37 PMMy brother's best friend from high school was York's roommate at Notre Dame. My brother has hung out with York quite a few times (not recently).
My brother's response when this news hit: "Not surprised".
Similarly, one of my best friends grew up in Warren, just outside Youngstown. His response was basically..."I learned in the 20+ years my family lived near Youngstown to never be surprised by the baffling, trashing, or disturbing things that happen to people in Youngstown...rich, poor, or otherwise."
Then he referenced a classmate of his best friend growing up who went to one of the private HS's in Youngstown. Not Debartolo levels of money, but from a very wealthy old money family there. Went to Case and then got an MBA at Wharton. Moved to Chicago and then Columbus working in finance. Headed back to Youngstown by his late 20s cause he was "bored" with the bigger cities and missed Youngstown. By 30 he was in prison after he wrapped a car around a pole after driving under the influence of multiple narcotics, also with a prostitute...for the second time since moving back to Youngstown.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 24, 2026, 04:41:17 PMSimilarly, one of my best friends grew up in Warren, just outside Youngstown. His response was basically..."I learned in the 20+ years my family lived near Youngstown to never be surprised by the baffling, trashing, or disturbing things that happen to people in Youngstown...rich, poor, or otherwise."
Then he referenced a classmate of his best friend growing up who went to one of the private HS's in Youngstown. Not Debartolo levels of money, but from a very wealthy old money family there. Went to Case and then got an MBA at Wharton. Moved to Chicago and then Columbus working in finance. Headed back to Youngstown by his late 20s cause he was "bored" with the bigger cities and missed Youngstown. By 30 he was in prison after he wrapped a car around a pole after driving under the influence of multiple narcotics, also with a prostitute...for the second time since moving back to Youngstown.
This is the story of JD Vance
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 24, 2026, 02:23:57 PMPrecisely. Virginia McCaskey used to give out hand jobs to Indiana politicians to grease the wheels for the Bears back in the day
Come on now, that was only like two years ago.
First the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 26, 2026, 04:09:43 PMFirst the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Vaxxed?
Quote from: The Sultan on August 26, 2026, 04:40:56 PMVaxxed?
Vaccines, the pro bowl being cancelled, gas prices out of control, endless wars.
So much for making America great again
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 26, 2026, 04:09:43 PMFirst the woke mob came for the kickoff, now the woke mob kills the Pro Bowl.
Sad!
Participation trophies for everyone
Very upsetting news. How will Keisean Nixon and Shedeur Sanders get the praise and attention they've rightfully earned?
Josh Jacobs TOTALLY EXONERATED
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 27, 2026, 03:11:41 PMJosh Jacobs TOTALLY EXONERATED
How many games will he miss, ummm due to injury?
If a video of Jacobs throwing his girlfriend to the ground gets released by TMZ, I don't see how he can stay in the NFL.
Seems like a lot of posturing going on. If I'm reading the complaint correctly, it's saying there is video of them in the garage and Jacobs destroying her phone while she lays on the ground. My interpretation is that there isn't explicit video footage of him throwing her down.
Two misdemeanors here feels a bit like posturing. I'd argue the timing of these charges is not coincidental.
Hopefully Matt lafleur does the right thing and realizes establishing the run is only the second most important thing here behind being ethical.
Quote from: Dish on August 27, 2026, 04:48:24 PMIf a video of Jacobs throwing his girlfriend to the ground gets released by TMZ, I don't see how he can stay in the NFL.
Seems like a lot of posturing going on. If I'm reading the complaint correctly, it's saying there is video of them in the garage and Jacobs destroying her phone while she lays on the ground. My interpretation is that there isn't explicit video footage of him throwing her down.
Two misdemeanors here feels a bit like posturing. I'd argue the timing of these charges is not coincidental.
A push to the ground is bad, but I'm not sure it is going to get him thrown out of the NFL, let alone off the Packers. This isn't going to be a video of Ray Rice beating the hell out of his girlfriend. Having said that, I haven't seen the video and I'm not defending his behavior, but this seems to be his first offense (correct me if I'm wrong) and he will most likely face a suspension of some sort.
I don't care about a destroyed phone.
Again, I am not condoning any of this behavior, I simply think the NFL isn't going to drop the hammer.
Having said all of this, I'd be fine if the Packers got out from under what they owe him and moved on.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 28, 2026, 06:16:30 AMA push to the ground is bad, but I'm not sure it is going to get him thrown out of the NFL, let alone off the Packers. This isn't going to be a video of Ray Rice beating the hell out of his girlfriend. Having said that, I haven't seen the video and I'm not defending his behavior, but this seems to be his first offense (correct me if I'm wrong) and he will most likely face a suspension of some sort.
I don't care about a destroyed phone.
Again, I am not condoning any of this behavior, I simply think the NFL isn't going to drop the hammer.
Having said all of this, I'd be fine if the Packers got out from under what they owe him and moved on.
Contract is paid off. They just have to take the cap hit.
MLF orchestrated this as pretense for more jet sweeps
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 28, 2026, 07:38:58 AMMLF orchestrated this as pretense for more jet sweeps
So many jet sweeps to Skyy Moore incoming
And my understanding is why Jacobs isn't facing a domestic violence charge is because of a technicality in Wisconsin law where you have to either live with, have a child with or be married to the alleged offender. And apparently none of those are the case. (Her official address is elsewhere.)
There is absolutely zero reason for the Packers to keep him around.
Quote from: The Sultan on August 28, 2026, 08:19:19 AMAnd my understanding is why Jacobs isn't facing a domestic violence charge is because of a technicality in Wisconsin law where you have to either live with, have a child with or be married to the alleged offender. And apparently none of those are the case. (Her official address is elsewhere.)
There is absolutely zero reason for the Packers to keep him around.
Well, winning football games is a reason.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 08:24:16 AMWell, winning football games is a reason.
They're going to need someone to block for him first.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2026, 07:47:36 AMSo many jet sweeps to Skyy Moore incoming
Savion Williams looks a lot like Coradelle Patterson, with the one defect being he sucks at football
Is kyle McCord the second best qb in the nfc north
@wadesworld
Mike Lafleur holds leads like his brother
Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 28, 2026, 09:46:05 PMIs kyle McCord the second best qb in the nfc north @wadesworld
That's Goff. Bagent 3 but could hop to 2. 9 is 4, McCord 5, McCarthy dead last.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 29, 2026, 12:04:10 AMThat's Goff. Bagent 3 but could hop to 2. 9 is 4, McCord 5, McCarthy dead last.
You can't judge any of them until they play in Bears weather
I thought the NFL had a zero tolerance policy for domestic violence?
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 29, 2026, 08:32:30 AMI thought the NFL had a zero tolerance policy for domestic violence?
Only against women, so if Enes Freedom were coaching this would have been completely different
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 29, 2026, 11:18:41 AMOnly against women, so if Enes Freedom were coaching this would have been completely different
Women? What are you, a caveperson?
Poles trading Dexter for a 5th round pick is an interesting move. I guess the DL must look way better than last year.
Unlike in baseball, the NFL salary cap prevents big market teams from stockpiling talent.
Also,
@TomPelissero
A Legend Returns: Ten-time Pro Bowl DT Aaron Donald is coming out of retirement to play for the Rams this season, sources tell @ringer
@netflixsports
Donald last played in 2023 and is 35 years old. But he's back for one more run, now alongside fellow superstar Myles Garrett.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2094153470550949928?s=20
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:02:36 PMUnlike in baseball, the NFL salary cap prevents big market teams from stockpiling talent.
Also,
@TomPelissero
A Legend Returns: Ten-time Pro Bowl DT Aaron Donald is coming out of retirement to play for the Rams this season, sources tell @ringer
@netflixsports
Donald last played in 2023 and is 35 years old. But he's back for one more run, now alongside fellow superstar Myles Garrett.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2094153470550949928?s=20
Yes adding a mid 30s guy who hasn't played the past two seasons to a team who last made the Super Bowl 5 seasons ago is incredibly similar to the World Series champion adding what had been the best closer in baseball, what had been a very good bat, and then traded for the back to back Cy Young winner.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 30, 2026, 03:11:07 PMYes adding a mid 30s guy who hasn't played the past two seasons to a team who last made the Super Bowl 5 seasons ago is incredibly similar to the World Series champion adding what had been the best closer in baseball, what had been a very good bat, and then traded for the back to back Cy Young winner.
Mostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
And if it fails, cap ramifications that will effect how the team in the next few years will be built.
I get what you're saying, but cap management is a skill. Rams wouldn't be able to build a star power team next year if this year tanks.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the MLBPA doesn't point to Donald returning to LA as an argument against a salary cap. ::)
Plus, the Rams might be allergic ti draft picks.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 03:29:13 PMMostly I'm just messing with you, but methinks you're playing down the stockpiling the Rams have been doing.
They've added arguably the top two defensive linemen of their generation, plus two Pro Bowl corners. In relative terms, they've added more star power to their lineup this offseason than the Dodgers.
The fact remains, we've been told that a salary cap prevents this kind of thing. And yet it happens in every capped league.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm thinking you're overrating current day Aaron Donald by not an insignificant amount.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 03:37:24 PMI get what you're saying, but cap management is a skill. Rams wouldn't be able to build a star power team next year if this year tanks.
Why wouldn't they? As of now, the Rams have the 4th most available cap space heading into 2027, per Spotrac. And they'd be first if Stafford retires after this season.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2027
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 04:14:33 PMWhy wouldn't they? As of now, the Rams have the 4th most available cap space heading into 2027, per Spotrac. And they'd be first if Stafford retires after this season.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2027
Then they've managed the cap well.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 04:25:13 PMThen they've managed the cap well.
They draft well too.
I wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
Quote from: MUBurrow on August 30, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
I think it depends on the draft year. But your point might be onto something. There is a large concern within NFL circles that development at the college level is as bad as it has ever been, especially with the constant roster churn.
Quote from: MUBurrow on August 30, 2026, 04:54:17 PMI wonder if the Rams willingness to trade their first rounder every year is hitting on a dissonance between the value of draft pick cost control vs the crapshoot of talent evaluation. Like, have we reached a place where teams overvalue the star potential of first round picks compared to proven players, and you can just use those as trade bait and pay stars so long as you fill the more fungible positions with low cost draftees?
That's 100 percent the Rams' strategy. I just don't think many/any other teams have matched their talent for finding impact players on days 2 and 3 of the draft (see: Nacua, Lake, Fiske, Young, Turner, etc.).
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 30, 2026, 05:15:17 PMI think it depends on the draft year. But your point might be onto something. There is a large concern within NFL circles that development at the college level is as bad as it has ever been, especially with the constant roster churn.
This explains the Browns. ;D
Sure why not, who could have predicted he was coming out of retirement
https://x.com/tompelissero/status/2094229585101467977?s=46
From Yahoo Sports:
Donald's arrival makes LA even bigger Super Bowl favorites (+500 odds). ... Over the past 30 years, the preseason favorite has had title odds of +500 or better 20 times. All 20 of those teams failed to win the Super Bowl.
Taking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 31, 2026, 06:32:37 PMTaking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
He's announcing they're renaming Chicago after Mike Ditka
Quote from: GB Warrior on August 31, 2026, 06:32:37 PMTaking Kalshi bets on what the announcement is
https://x.com/diehard_chicago/status/2094544459245523248?s=46
The event is being hosted by the "Brandon Johnson for Chicago" political committee.
Johnson hasn't yet announced whether he's running for re-election.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 31, 2026, 06:40:16 PMHe's announcing they're renaming Chicago after Mike Ditka
Ditka is the kind of person you name a continent after; not a city.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 30, 2026, 05:27:35 PMThat's 100 percent the Rams' strategy. I just don't think many/any other teams have matched their talent for finding impact players on days 2 and 3 of the draft (see: Nacua, Lake, Fiske, Young, Turner, etc.).
Green Bay, easily.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 02, 2026, 01:20:27 PMGreen Bay, easily.
True for a long time but hasn't been true for several years in my opinion. You trade for Micah because you can't find impact players elsewhere. They've found depth and a lot of good players. I would not say they've outshot their draft position particularly well, especially along the lines, which used to be their calling card.
They've been consistently highly effective at receiver and struck gold at TE.
This post could go in the College Football thread also, but here goes.
Does every, literally every, new HC and OC have to talk about how they are "different" because they want to be a run first offense? It is mostly humorous, and a tad bit annoying. Makes me wonder if the new cutting edge coaching philosophy is grounded in "scoring more points than the other team". Of course ESPN will attribute the ground breaking concept of out scoring the other team to Sean McVay. ;D
It's always been a copycat league. The success of the Seahawks and Rams last season has brought out the copycats ... not that what either did was mega-groundbreaking.
Quote from: MU82 on September 02, 2026, 04:12:09 PMIt's always been a copycat league. The success of the Seahawks and Rams last season has brought out the copycats ... not that what either did was mega-groundbreaking.
They never copycat the players though. Just the system with players that suck.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 02, 2026, 04:06:15 PMThis post could go in the College Football thread also, but here goes.
Does every, literally every, new HC and OC have to talk about how they are "different" because they want to be a run first offense? It is mostly humorous, and a tad bit annoying. Makes me wonder if the new cutting edge coaching philosophy is grounded in "scoring more points than the other team". Of course ESPN will attribute the ground breaking concept of out scoring the other team to Sean McVay. ;D
It's in NFL bylaws that you're fired as a DC if you don't say you're going to be aggressive and fly to the football in your opening press conference
Quote from: GB Warrior on September 02, 2026, 10:03:49 PMIt's in NFL bylaws that you're fired as a DC if you don't say you're going to be aggressive and fly to the football in your opening press conference
;D ;D ;D