Here's what I expect will be the depth chart going into next year:
PG: Nigel James - Colton Crowdis - Nolan Minessale - Adrien Stevens
SG: Adrien Stevens - Damarius Owens - Nash Walker
SF: Nolan Minessale - Michael Phillips III - Alex Egbuonu - Ethan Johnston
PF: Royce Parham - Damarius Owens - Alex Egbuonu - Ian Miletic
C: Sananda Fru - Royce Parham - Josh Clark - Caedin Hamilton
Guys listed more than once are based on roles they can play and where they might fall into the pecking order for minutes at that spot.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 21, 2026, 11:13:48 AMHere's what I expect will be the depth chart going into next year:
PG: Nigel James - Colton Crowdis - Nolan Minessale - Adrien Stevens
SG: Adrien Stevens - Damarius Owens - Nash Walker
SF: Nolan Minessale - Michael Phillips III - Alex Egbuonu - Ethan Johnston
PF: Royce Parham - Damarius Owens - Alex Egbuonu - Ian Miletic
C: Sananda Fru - Royce Parham - Josh Clark - Caedin Hamilton
Guys listed more than once are based on roles they can play and where they might fall into the pecking order for minutes at that spot.
Seems fairly accurate. I'd expect Minessale to be the primary backups at both the 2 and 1, and then DO to be a backup at the 3 and 4 rather than at the 2 and 4. I think Nolan starts at the 3, and then whenever either of Stevens or James go to the bench for whatever reason Nolan moves into that spot and Owens is first off the bench, filling in the 3 spot.
Hoping to use the last scholarship spot for a backup 5 right behind Fru.
Here are some projected minutes-per-game averages:
Nigel James - 29
Adrien Stevens - 28
Nolan Minessale - 28
Royce Parham - 28
Sananda Fru - 25
Damarius Owens - 15
Michael Phillips III - 15
Colton Crowdis -7
Alex Egbuonu - 10
Ethan Johnston - <1
Ian Miletic -3
Nash Walker - 4
Josh Clark - 4
Caedin Hamilton - 4
I think Caedin and Clark will spot Fru for about 7-8 minutes based on matchups with Royce slotting in for about 7 minutes. Alex, MPIII, Damarius, and Ian are all big enough to play PF.
Keep in mind a bunch of these minutes might come in garbage time for guys like Ian, Nash and Crowdis because we have a ton of dudes on the wing. DO and MPIII could inch towards 20mpg as the season progresses.
I think we have a ton of switchable pieces on this roster so I can see why the PT will be so top-heavy.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 21, 2026, 11:26:44 AMHere are some projected minutes-per-game averages:
Nigel James - 29
Adrien Stevens - 28
Nolan Minessale - 28
Royce Parham - 28
Sananda Fru - 25
Damarius Owens - 15
Michael Phillips III - 15
Colton Crowdis -7
Alex Egbuonu - 10
Ethan Johnston - <1
Ian Miletic -3
Nash Walker - 4
Josh Clark - 4
Caedin Hamilton - 4
I think Caedin and Clark will spot Fru for about 7-8 minutes based on matchups with Royce slotting in for about 7 minutes. Alex, MPIII, Damarius, and Ian are all big enough to play PF.
Keep in mind a bunch of these minutes might come in garbage time for guys like Ian, Nash and Crowdis because we have a ton of dudes on the wing. DO and MPIII could inch towards 20mpg as the season progresses.
I think we have a ton of switchable pieces on this roster so I can see why the PT will be so top-heavy.
MP3 would have to have put in major weight to play the 4. Maybe he has that j in his future but I'd give it a very slim chance if happens this year.
I do like the starter minute average at the 30 range...it means there is quality bench depth.
Having bench players who can come in as effective weapons rather than simply hold the line while the starter takes a breather adds a lot a dimension to a team.
The make up of this team is very young. It will be interesting if the bench will help or not. Owens is only returner with experience, yes you have the two bigs, not sure they bring anything to the table. Would have liked MU to have added another experience player at a guard slot, oh well.
No one is being honest Caedin is playing 10 minutes per game next year, unless Clark gets good.
I'll be surprised if Nigel doesn't average 30+ minutes. He's the Energizer Bunny; unless he is in foul trouble, Shaka will not want to take him off the floor (nor would I). He averaged 32.3 in Big East play as a freshman.
Also ... assuming that Shaka doesn't significantly change our offense, the 2/3 positions are interchangeable. Differentiating between the two isn't really necessary.
Popcorn is popped
Caedin could get to 10mpg but it'll be entirely at the expense of Josh Clark. I could see them being about even in the depth chart with matchups being ghe deciding factor.
Dodds reported that MPIII is clocking in around 6'7 these days and will certainly put on some weight. I think we'll run small here and there eith DO being first PF off the bench and Alex filling in as well.
I really like length we have 2-4 with Royce, Minessale, DO, MPIII, Ian, and Alex
Quote from: jfp61 on May 21, 2026, 11:52:58 AMNo one is being honest Caedin is playing 10 minutes per game next year, unless Clark gets good.
I'll bet the under.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 21, 2026, 11:26:44 AMHere are some projected minutes-per-game averages:
Nigel James - 29
Adrien Stevens - 28
Nolan Minessale - 28
Royce Parham - 28
Sananda Fru - 25
Damarius Owens - 15
Michael Phillips III - 15
Colton Crowdis -7
Alex Egbuonu - 10
Ethan Johnston - <1
Ian Miletic -3
Nash Walker - 4
Josh Clark - 4
Caedin Hamilton - 4
I think Caedin and Clark will spot Fru for about 7-8 minutes based on matchups with Royce slotting in for about 7 minutes. Alex, MPIII, Damarius, and Ian are all big enough to play PF.
Keep in mind a bunch of these minutes might come in garbage time for guys like Ian, Nash and Crowdis because we have a ton of dudes on the wing. DO and MPIII could inch towards 20mpg as the season progresses.
I think we have a ton of switchable pieces on this roster so I can see why the PT will be so top-heavy.
That may be what it looks like against bad non conference, but against anyone decent guys like James are playing at least 34 minutes.
Quote from: rccola42 on May 21, 2026, 12:09:53 PMThat may be what it looks like against bad non conference, but against anyone decent guys like James are playing at least 34 minutes.
If anyone is playing more than 30 a game we are going to do the February fade again.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 21, 2026, 12:18:59 PMIf anyone is playing more than 30 a game we are going to do the February fade again.
Tons of teams have guys that play 30 MPG and don't fade. And we've only had one fade under Shaka. 2023, 2024, and 2026's teams all got better or maintained as the season went on.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 21, 2026, 12:18:59 PMIf anyone is playing more than 30 a game we are going to do the February fade again.
Kolek averaged almost 34 mpg in Big East play his last two seasons. Oso averaged nearly 33. We did not have a February fade either season; indeed, we played great.
We played our best basketball last season in the second half, with James averaging 32+ mpg.
Every player is different. James has as incredible motor, and he is essential to the team's success. I will be pretty surprised if he doesn't average 31-33 mpg.
Is the consensus that Minessale starts let alone plays 25+ minutes?
Quote from: wadesworld on May 21, 2026, 12:09:02 PMI'll bet the under.
I do see a scenario (with lots of prayer) that includes a small ball lineup with Owens as the high man on an aggressive diamond press with Parham at the 5 or if Phillips makes a massive defensive jump he could play on the roster too - in very limited time to steal minutes with foul trouble etc.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 21, 2026, 11:38:30 AMMP3 would have to have put in major weight to play the 4. Maybe he has that j in his future but I'd give it a very slim chance if happens this year.
I see what you did there.
Remember that MP3 is still young for his class age. It would not surprise me at all to see him take a huge leap going into next year. The talent is obvious, but his head wasn't always caught up to his body. With a year of seasoning, he will keep up better against high majors.
I'm trying to think of a good comp, and my first thought was Jimmy's first year (19.6mpg, 5.6pts, 3.9reb with excellent defense as the super-sub). But I think MP3 will contribute more scoring and less defense than JB did that season, so that's not the best comparison.
Quote from: BM1090 on May 21, 2026, 12:38:18 PMTons of teams have guys that play 30 MPG and don't fade. And we've only had one fade under Shaka. 2023, 2024, and 2026's teams all got better or maintained as the season went on.
More minutes more chance of injury and wear down over the season.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on May 21, 2026, 01:04:22 PMIs the consensus that Minessale starts let alone plays 25+ minutes?
Absolutely.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 21, 2026, 11:13:48 AMHere's what I expect will be the depth chart going into next year:
PG: Nigel James - Colton Crowdis - Nolan Minessale - Adrien Stevens
SG: Adrien Stevens - Damarius Owens - Nash Walker
SF: Nolan Minessale - Michael Phillips III - Alex Egbuonu - Ethan Johnston
PF: Royce Parham - Damarius Owens - Alex Egbuonu - Ian Miletic
C: Sananda Fru - Royce Parham - Josh Clark - Caedin Hamilton
You did great on the starting lineup, but then it's eff'd up. I think/hope Alex can step up at least by January (sometimes takes the staff awhile to figure out the obvious)... and, 18 will be inserted in the first half of games. Thinking he's an after thought is wrong - when it comes to SS, that is.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 21, 2026, 11:13:48 AMHere's what I expect will be the depth chart going into next year:
PG: Nigel James - Colton Crowdis - Nolan Minessale - Adrien Stevens
SG: Adrien Stevens - Damarius Owens - Nash Walker
SF: Nolan Minessale - Michael Phillips III - Alex Egbuonu - Ethan Johnston
PF: Royce Parham - Damarius Owens - Alex Egbuonu - Ian Miletic
C: Sananda Fru - Royce Parham - Josh Clark - Caedin Hamilton
Guys listed more than once are based on roles they can play and where they might fall into the pecking order for minutes at that spot.
Militec is not a PF. He is a SF/2G
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on May 21, 2026, 01:04:22 PMIs the consensus that Minessale starts let alone plays 25+ minutes?
I don't think so. It's hard to see a guy just waltzing into the starting lineup after playing at St. Thomas. Kolek needed a transition year and he was (we know now) an NBA prospect.
My guess is Owens starts in that spot.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on May 21, 2026, 04:00:40 PMI don't think so. It's hard to see a guy just waltzing into the starting lineup after playing at St. Thomas. Kolek needed a transition year and he was (we know now) an NBA prospect.
My guess is Owens starts in that spot.
I think it's pretty easy to see it happening, actually.
If Owens starts, that means he had an amazing offseason, which would be great. In regard to where things stood at the end of last season, Minessale was signficantly better, regardless of the competition.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on May 21, 2026, 04:00:40 PMI don't think so. It's hard to see a guy just waltzing into the starting lineup after playing at St. Thomas. Kolek needed a transition year and he was (we know now) an NBA prospect.
My guess is Owens starts in that spot.
Owens just had a transition year to earn a spot as a starter. We saw some nice playing from him in some late season games, but I doubt he starts. My guess is Minessale starts.
C'mon. 18 is starting in that spot, and everyone knows it.
Quote from: MU82 on May 21, 2026, 06:23:49 PMC'mon. 18 is starting in that spot, and everyone knows it.
He's making 3s now
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 21, 2026, 06:34:39 PMHe's making 3s now
Hook shots from behind the arc ... impressive!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 21, 2026, 06:34:39 PMHe's making 3s now
My sources tell me that he's making 40 footers at 40%.
Nigel James 33
Adrien Stevens 25
Nolan Minessale 25
Royce Parham 28
Sananda Fru 25
Damarius Owens 17
Colton Crowdis 14
Michael Phillips III 14
Alex Egbuonu 14
Joshua Clark 5
Bench: Nash Walker, Ethan Johnston, Ian Miletic, Caedin Hamilton.
New York 50
Pennsylvania 28
Germany 25
Maryland 25
Wisconsin 25
Canada 14
New Hampshire 14
North Carolina 14
Texas 5
Deiner - Minessale is starting over
Owens. He's a far better player.
Overall, Owens has been quite unimpressive.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on May 21, 2026, 04:00:40 PMI don't think so. It's hard to see a guy just waltzing into the starting lineup after playing at St. Thomas. Kolek needed a transition year and he was (we know now) an NBA prospect.
My guess is Owens starts in that spot.
I'd rather start Michael Phillips II. No Chance Owens plays over Minessale without an injury.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 27, 2026, 12:21:42 PMI'd rather start Michael Phillips II. No Chance Owens plays over Minessale without an injury.
Smoke sumthin
Quote from: jfp61 on May 27, 2026, 12:21:42 PMI'd rather start Michael Phillips II. No Chance Owens plays over Minessale without an injury.
One of these daze, you'll have to get somebody tough to reclaim the lunch money Damarius stole from you.
Quote from: JoanofArcMascot on May 27, 2026, 09:32:40 AMNigel James 33
Adrien Stevens 25
Nolan Minessale 25
Royce Parham 28
Sananda Fru 25
Damarius Owens 17
Colton Crowdis 14
Michael Phillips III 14
Alex Egbuonu 14
Joshua Clark 5
Bench: Nash Walker, Ethan Johnston, Ian Miletic, Caedin Hamilton.
New York 50
Pennsylvania 28
Germany 25
Maryland 25
Wisconsin 25
Canada 14
New Hampshire 14
North Carolina 14
Texas 5
Shaka did an interview with Homer today and didn't include Colton Crowdis while introducing the "new Freshman".
I'm guessing he won't be playing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/z702gMi4ZAA?si=WNzNxwOEDKeyb37x
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on May 27, 2026, 07:51:29 PMShaka did an interview with Homer today and didn't include Colton Crowdis while introducing the "new Freshman".
I'm guessing he won't be playing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/z702gMi4ZAA?si=WNzNxwOEDKeyb37x
MU has yet to have a press release on his signing. The only thing was reposting his announcement.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on May 27, 2026, 07:51:29 PMShaka did an interview with Homer today and didn't include Colton Crowdis while introducing the "new Freshman".
I'm guessing he won't be playing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/z702gMi4ZAA?si=WNzNxwOEDKeyb37x
He can't comment until he signs
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on May 27, 2026, 07:51:29 PMShaka did an interview with Homer today and didn't include Colton Crowdis while introducing the "new Freshman".
I'm guessing he won't be playing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/z702gMi4ZAA?si=WNzNxwOEDKeyb37x
Nice interview, good share.
You could sense the passion oozing from Shaka, he's fired up and it's great to see.
Quote from: BM1090 on May 27, 2026, 11:09:55 PMHe can't comment until he signs
So, we actually have 2 openings still. Just because someone has committed to sign with us does not necessarily mean will sign with them. If he committed you would think all the paper work would have been done by now.
Quote from: MU82 on May 27, 2026, 03:28:56 PMOne of these daze, you'll have to get somebody tough to reclaim the lunch money Damarius stole from you.
If he could defend well enough to generate a steal
Do people really think Colton is going to get 14 minutes a night? I know people are excited about those highlights, but those are never anything but positive.
I can't gauge the quality of the recruit because there isn't much info on him. St. John's and Providence being interested is the only thing suggesting he'll be any good.
The fit, positionally, is nice though because we need backcourt depth
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 28, 2026, 10:01:54 AMDo people really think Colton is going to get 14 minutes a night? I know people are excited about those highlights, but those are never anything but positive.
I can't gauge the quality of the recruit because there isn't much info on him. St. John's and Providence being interested is the only thing suggesting he'll be any good.
The fit, positionally, is nice though because we need backcourt depth
If the team is healthy, I'd be surprised if he plays more than 5 MPG. It's certainly possible he exceeds expectations and earns more minutes but probably pretty unlikely.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 28, 2026, 09:47:24 AMIf he could defend well enough to generate a steal
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2025-26
Sixth on the team, and tops among reserves.
Sorry that he was somehow mean to you once.
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 12:33:32 PMhttps://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2025-26
Sixth on the team, and tops among reserves.
Sorry that he was somehow mean to you once.
He is just meh and shouldn't start.
I said this about Zaide last year.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 28, 2026, 12:51:12 PMHe is just meh and shouldn't start.
I said this about Zaide last year.
I never said Owens would start. I think Minessale is likely to start over him. I also don't think it's all that important who starts. But I hope it's an open competition for minutes. Competition is good.
You, meanwhile, just see Owens' name mentioned and can't help but go on the attack. Sorry he stole your lunch money.
Quote from: SchnitzelBoy on May 28, 2026, 10:01:54 AMDo people really think Colton is going to get 14 minutes a night? I know people are excited about those highlights, but those are never anything but positive.
I can't gauge the quality of the recruit because there isn't much info on him. St. John's and Providence being interested is the only thing suggesting he'll be any good.
The fit, positionally, is nice though because we need backcourt depth
Not anyone that's been around the block once or twice.
Shaka presser from today - some good stuff.
-Talks plan for PG when Nigel is getting a rest.
-As far as that goes, said getting a pure backup 1 didn't make sense (as I said many times)
-Excited about Phillips - thinks he can take a leap
-Will trigger additional HDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44MwX3gicow
Quote from: MU82 on May 28, 2026, 05:01:00 PMI never said Owens would start. I think Minessale is likely to start over him. I also don't think it's all that important who starts. But I hope it's an open competition for minutes. Competition is good.
You, meanwhile, just see Owens' name mentioned and can't help but go on the attack. Sorry he stole your lunch money.
I "attacked" the idea that he should start over a 20 PPG transfer.
Because that idea is bad.
Shaka did a 30 minute presser and 30 minutes on Homer's show and Crowdis was never mentioned.
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2026, 08:55:39 PMShaka did a 30 minute presser and 30 minutes on Homer's show and Crowdis was never mentioned.
Wonder if there is an actual issue, or if he just hasn't signed yet.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 28, 2026, 08:51:49 PMI "attacked" the idea that he should start over a 20 PPG transfer.
Because that idea is bad.
Ah, so you don't take every opportunity possible to criticize Owens. I must have you confused with someone else.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 28, 2026, 08:35:03 PMShaka presser from today - some good stuff.
-Talks plan for PG when Nigel is getting a rest.
-As far as that goes, said getting a pure backup 1 didn't make sense (as I said many times)
-Excited about Phillips - thinks he can take a leap
-Will trigger additional HDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44MwX3gicow
"One of the things we learned - you talk about lessons from the transfer portal - is when you have Nigel James Jr., what other point guards, A, wanna come here? And B, does it make sense, when you factor in all the considerations, to bring in here?"
Bottom line: It would have been great if we could have gotten another PG and/or another big. But kids in the portal are transferring in great part because they want to start and play a major role.
We've reached June and Caedin Hamilton is still lined up for minutes at the backup 5.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 02, 2026, 06:18:17 PMWe've reached June and Caedin Hamilton is still lined up for minutes at the backup 5.
Thanks! Nobody would've known or discussed this if you hadn't pointed it out!
And he's not really lined up for any minutes outside of foul trouble and injury.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 06:23:28 PMThanks! Nobody would've know. Or discussed this if you hadn't pointed it out!
And he's not really lined up for any minutes outside of foul trouble and injury.
He's certainly going to play some regardless of foul trouble and injuries
Quote from: Markusquette on June 02, 2026, 07:25:54 PMHe's certainly going to play some regardless of foul trouble and injuries
Any other tidbits from Shaka?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 02, 2026, 06:18:17 PMWe've reached June and Caedin Hamilton is still lined up for minutes at the backup 5.
Incredible insight.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 06:23:28 PMAnd he's not really lined up for any minutes outside of foul trouble and injury.
Yes he is.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 02, 2026, 08:43:36 PMYes he is.
Everyone knows you think that. Go play some pickleball.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 06:23:28 PMAnd he's not really lined up for any minutes outside of foul trouble and injury.
I'm legitimately baffled as to why you believe this.
He was getting first-half minutes outside of foul trouble and injury at the end of last season. All that's changed since then is Fru replacing Gold as the starter.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 02, 2026, 09:29:26 PMI'm legitimately baffled as to why you believe this.
He was getting first-half minutes outside of foul trouble and injury at the end of last season. All that's changed since then is Fru replacing Gold as the starter.
Shaka mentioned just last week that he's been "good in the Al for a few years now. They just need to get it to translate to the Fiserv Forum."
So he's certainly expected to play.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 02, 2026, 09:29:26 PMI'm legitimately baffled as to why you believe this.
He was getting first-half minutes outside of foul trouble and injury at the end of last season. All that's changed since then is Fru replacing Gold as the starter.
Eric Williams used to start over Jae Crowder. Didn't mean he was getting meaningful minutes. Buzz tried working Yousapha Mbao into the top of a 1-2-2 press early in games. Didn't mean he was getting meaningful minutes.
I'll just continue to quote this.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2026, 04:28:25 PMAlready addressed this, and it's pretty much #fakenews #lies.
The last 19 games of the season, Caedin averaged 8.9 mpg. In those 19 games, he played 10+ minutes in 8 of them. One was against Zuby in a game Ben didn't play, one was in a game Royce played 25 minutes because of foul trouble (4 fouls), one was against Zuby and Royce played 29 minutes because of fouls (4 fouls), one was a game where Royce didn't play, one was a 22 point win when we were curbstomping Providence from start to finish, and one was with Ben playing 15 minutes because of foul trouble (4 fouls).
So in 3 of the final 19 games he played 10+ minutes without any foul trouble or entire games being missed by Royce/Ben. One of those was a 22 point blowout, a second was exactly 10 minutes.
His role became extremely diminished, and that was with a significantly worse 5 than what we'll have this year. Plus another offseason to bulk up for Royce, as well as Philips and Owens to bulk up to play some 4 and Egbuonu joining the program to play some 4.
Listen, don't let me stop you, BeeJay (who's just working to feed your panic), panda, and orange soda from weekly panic attacks about a guy who was getting under 9 mpg at a spot we were worse off at than we will be next year for the next 5 months.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 02, 2026, 09:49:55 PMShaka mentioned just last week that he's been "good in the Al for a few years now. They just need to get it to translate to the Fiserv Forum."
So he's certainly expected to play.
Sounds like he's not expected to play if they don't get that to translate to the Fiserv Forum.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 09:59:37 PMSounds like he's not expected to play if they don't get that to translate to the Fiserv Forum.
How long does the experiment run? You need to see more? lol
Clark and Hamilton will also have the opportunity to practice against a real center for the next 5 months.
That can give the staff a better read on if they're improving.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 02, 2026, 10:13:21 PMClark and Hamilton will also have the opportunity to practice against a real center for the next 5 months.
That can give the staff a better read on if they're improving.
Smoke some more, my boi
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 02, 2026, 10:14:04 PMSmoke some more, my boi
gunna need some fat ones for that one to make sense.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 09:58:31 PMI'll just continue to quote this.
Perhaps take a moment to consider that agreeing with yourself isn't the trump card you think it is.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 02, 2026, 09:58:31 PMEric Williams used to start over Jae Crowder. Didn't mean he was getting meaningful minutes. Buzz tried working Yousapha Mbao into the top of a 1-2-2 press early in games. Didn't mean he was getting meaningful minutes.
I'll just continue to quote this.
His role became extremely diminished, and that was with a significantly worse 5 than what we'll have this year. Plus another offseason to bulk up for Royce, as well as Philips and Owens to bulk up to play some 4 and Egbuonu joining the program to play some 4.
Listen, don't let me stop you, BeeJay (who's just working to feed your panic), panda, and orange soda from weekly panic attacks about a guy who was getting under 9 mpg at a spot we were worse off at than we will be next year for the next 5 months.
"Well embedded moles" weren't leaking stuff out to Rothstein about Williams and Mbao. Furthermore they lasted two and one seasons here respectively. It's a nonsense comparison. They were nothing more than novelty acts - not players expected to play significant minutes.
I think what concerns people was last year's complete misevaluation of Hamilton. And now they are going to roll it back with him as a back-up. I completely get why people don't feel great about that option.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 06:36:41 AM"Well embedded moles" weren't leaking stuff out to Rothstein about Williams and Mbao. Furthermore they lasted two and one seasons here respectively. It's a nonsense comparison. They were nothing more than novelty acts - not players expected to play significant minutes.
I think what concerns people was last year's complete misevaluation of Hamilton. And now they are going to roll it back with him as a back-up. I completely get why people don't feel great about that option.
Dont disagree, just noting that Williams was a highly touted recruit who put up big numbers in high school. He just didn't make the transition to CBB and flamed out at Sam Houston State.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 02, 2026, 10:14:04 PMSmoke some more, my boi
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 02, 2026, 10:31:07 PMgunna need some fat ones for that one to make sense.
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Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 06:36:41 AM"Well embedded moles" weren't leaking stuff out to Rothstein about Williams and Mbao. Furthermore they lasted two and one seasons here respectively. It's a nonsense comparison. They were nothing more than novelty acts - not players expected to play significant minutes.
I think what concerns people was last year's complete misevaluation of Hamilton. And now they are going to roll it back with him as a back-up. I completely get why people don't feel great about that option.
I don't feel great about that option. But the extent to which people think our back-up 5s can impact our season is ludicrous.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 08:44:22 AMI don't feel great about that option. But the extent to which people think our back-up 5s can impact our season is ludicrous.
Saving this qoute for when fru has 3 fouls in the first half against uconn.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 08:44:22 AMI don't feel great about that option. But the extent to which people think our back-up 5s can impact our season is ludicrous.
I don't disagree. I think if it weren't for last year's disasterclass at the 5, people wouldn't be that concerned. I also think it plays into a lot of people's talking points about Shaka being "portal avoidant."
I hope it works out. We will see.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 09:23:12 AMSaving this qoute for when fru has 3 fouls in the first half against uconn.
FWIW, Hamilton had his best game of the season against UConn after Gold got into foul trouble, and he played a role in helping Marquette pull off one of the biggest upsets of the 2025-26 college basketball season.
But yes, point taken.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 08:44:22 AMI don't feel great about that option. But the extent to which people think our back-up 5s can impact our season is ludicrous.
I haven't seen anyone suggest that the quality of the backup 5s in itself is likely to wreck the season, barring injury.
I see people who are frustrated because the staff chose not to address an obvious weakness when time and opportunity to do so existed, and that's been a recurring theme with this staff three seasons running now. Those choices came back to bite them the past two seasons. We'll find out if it happens again, but I imagine even you can understand the concern.
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 09:25:26 AMFWIW, Hamilton had his best game of the season against UConn after Gold got into foul trouble, and he played a role in helping Marquette pull off one of the biggest upsets of the 2025-26 college basketball season.
But yes, point taken.
Only an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
Prior to last season, Shaka Smart was 2-8 against UConn, with the only two victories coming in 2022-23 at home and in the BET semis.
Like it or not, beating UConn at home was not only an upset last year, but pretty much has been throughout Shaka's tenure. And likely will be for the foreseeable future.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 09:23:12 AMSaving this qoute for when fru has 3 fouls in the first half against uconn.
::)
"Season" is a hard word to understand.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
:o
You come up with the most bizarre takes. But it's part of the fun of ScoopLand.
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 09:25:26 AMFWIW, Hamilton had his best game of the season against UConn after Gold got into foul trouble, and he played a role in helping Marquette pull off one of the biggest upsets of the 2025-26 college basketball season.
But yes, point taken.
You're right. 18 poured in 4 points and corralled 2 rebounds (zero offensive) in his *18* minutes during that game.
Tarris Reed was shutdown for the entire game - only 7/10 for 16 points and 10 rebounds, 5 of them offensive! Backup center Eric Reibe could only muster 4 points and 3 offensive boards in his 11 minutes of backup duty.
Meanwhile, 18 dismantled UCONN's ability to shoot three-pointers, where they went 3/24 on the night.
Amazing stuff!
Quote from: Pakuni on June 03, 2026, 09:37:17 AMI haven't seen anyone suggest that the quality of the backup 5s in itself is likely to wreck the season, barring injury.
I see people who are frustrated because the staff chose not to address an obvious weakness when time and opportunity to do so existed, and that's been a recurring theme with this staff three seasons running now. Those choices came back to bite them the past two seasons. We'll find out if it happens again, but I imagine even you can understand the concern.
"Even you can understand the concern".
Kind of difficult to respond to that in a manner that won't get me banned so I'll let it be.
I've never said I had no concerns. I was excited about Sheek - he is a loss. I would have liked the staff to add someone to replace him.
The pickings were slim after Sheek was poached. Why do you fail to acknowledge there may not have been a fit when it comes to talent, culture and compensation?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 10:25:46 AMThe pickings were slim after Sheek was poached. Why do you fail to acknowledge there may not have been a fit when it comes to talent, culture and compensation?
Tough to find a fit when you oddly believe 18 is a very good player and (probably reasonably believe) an A+ culture guy.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
I'm always thankful we took care of business in that trap game against UConn in 2006.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2026, 10:20:24 AMYou're right. 18 poured in 4 points and corralled 2 rebounds (zero offensive) in his *18* minutes during that game.
Tarris Reed was shutdown for the entire game - only 7/10 for 16 points and 10 rebounds, 5 of them offensive! Backup center Eric Reibe could only muster 4 points and 3 offensive boards in his 11 minutes of backup duty.
Meanwhile, 18 dismantled UCONN's ability to shoot three-pointers, where they went 3/24 on the night.
Amazing stuff!
Thanks for acknowledging that you didn't watch the game.
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 10:38:49 AMThanks for acknowledging that you didn't watch the game.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay/_/gameId/401822973
Yea, most of the damage was done when Caedin was out. Reed had 6 points in the first 3.5 minutes of the game before Caedin even made an appearance. 4 more in the first 50 seconds of the second, again with no Caedin. That's 10 out of his 16 in just over 4 minute combined span when Caedin wasn't in the game.
If Caedin can play like he did against UCONN consistently, he'll be a perfectly acceptable backup. His usage was below 15 last year. If he only attempts three shots a game, I don't really care if one is a 3 foot air ball as long as the other two are 0 foot dunks. On the offensive end, set screens and be in the right spot for dump offs/put backs. Defensively, I wish he didn't hedge as hard on the PnR, but that's less on him/his ability and more on the staff's scheme. With another 250lb C on the roster, I would think we would see less of that overall.
Quote from: Its DJOver on June 03, 2026, 11:28:29 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay/_/gameId/401822973
Yea, most of the damage was done when Caedin was out. Reed had 6 points in the first 3.5 minutes of the game before Caedin even made an appearance. 4 more in the first 50 seconds of the second, again with no Caedin. That's 10 out of his 16 in just over 4 minute combined span when Caedin wasn't in the game.
If Caedin can play like he did against UCONN consistently, he'll be a perfectly acceptable backup. His usage was below 15 last year. If he only attempts three shots a game, I don't really care if one is a 3 foot air ball as long as the other two are 0 foot dunks. On the offensive end, set screens and be in the right spot for dump offs/put backs. Defensively, I wish he didn't hedge as hard on the PnR, but that's less on him/his ability and more on the staff's scheme. With another 250lb C on the roster, I would think we would see less of that overall.
This is where I'm at. He's miscast in the "Oso" role, catching on the FT line, facilitating offense. He could be fine in the dunker spot with absolutely no dribbling. It's up to the coaches to find schemes which are going to be different when Fru is in, versus Hamilton.
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 10:17:43 AM:o
You come up with the most bizarre takes. But it's part of the fun of ScoopLand.
What don't you agree with? Marquette is routinely near the top of college hoops in attendance. They spend a lot of money. This is a great basketball program. We should expect to win in Milwaukee against everyone and anyone.
Everyone will lose games at home, no big deal, but I still think we should expect to win. Have some pride in the program!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:00:53 PMWhat don't you agree with? Marquette is routinely near the top of college hoops in attendance. They spend a lot of money. This is a great basketball program. We should expect to win in Milwaukee against everyone and anyone.
Everyone will lose games at home, no big deal, but I still think we should expect to win. Have some pride in the program!
I'm one of the biggest optimists here, and I expect lots of winning.
But the fact is that UConn was a big favorite in that game, and we upset them. That you don't think we should ever be a home underdog is beside the point.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
MU over UCONN at home should never be considered an upset? The program that has won 22% of the last 27 national championships?
Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 06:36:41 AM"Well embedded moles" weren't leaking stuff out to Rothstein about Williams and Mbao. Furthermore they lasted two and one seasons here respectively. It's a nonsense comparison. They were nothing more than novelty acts - not players expected to play significant minutes.
I think what concerns people was last year's complete misevaluation of Hamilton. And now they are going to roll it back with him as a back-up. I completely get why people don't feel great about that option.
I do have to admit that I got a chuckle out of the posters who respond to "Well yeah Caedin may not have played many minutes, but he played first half minutes!" are the ones who like, "Well Williams didn't play many minutes, so who cares if he started?"
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 12:08:20 PMI'm one of the biggest optimists here, and I expect lots of winning.
But the fact is that UConn was a big favorite in that game, and we upset them. That you don't think we should ever be a home underdog is beside the point.
We shouldn't have seasons like last year, ever. That's part of the point. Of course Marquette will be underdogs at home at times. That is just college basketball. But last year was legitimately shocking because of how terrible the team was. If Marquette was even a .500 team, UConn dropping a game in Milwaukee wouldn't be any bit surprising.
My point is that we should never have to feel like a game is impossible to win in Milwaukee. Sure, we will lose games in Milwaukee. Fine. But this place has been and should be a fortress. I look forward to getting back to that.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:18:03 PMWe shouldn't have seasons like last year, ever. That's part of the point. Of course Marquette will be underdogs at home at times. That is just college basketball. But last year was legitimately shocking because of how terrible the team was. If Marquette was even a .500 team, UConn dropping a game in Milwaukee wouldn't be any bit surprising.
My point is that we should never have to feel like a game is impossible to win in Milwaukee. Sure, we will lose games in Milwaukee. Fine. But this place has been and should be a fortress. I look forward to getting back to that.
I didn't feel it was impossible to win. And we won it.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:18:03 PMWe shouldn't have seasons like last year, ever. That's part of the point. Of course Marquette will be underdogs at home at times. That is just college basketball. But last year was legitimately shocking because of how terrible the team was. If Marquette was even a .500 team, UConn dropping a game in Milwaukee wouldn't be any bit surprising.
My point is that we should never have to feel like a game is impossible to win in Milwaukee. Sure, we will lose games in Milwaukee. Fine. But this place has been and should be a fortress. I look forward to getting back to that.
Who felt like the UConn game was impossible to win in Milwaukee? Not me.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 28, 2026, 12:49:59 PMI think we can beat UConn next weekend, assuming the team is healthy.
Very unlikely but possible.
^^^ the courage to make a "prediction" that although very unlikely, there's a chance is truly amazing. Kudos!
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 12:16:07 PMI do have to admit that I got a chuckle out of the posters who respond to "Well yeah Caedin may not have played many minutes, but he played first half minutes!" are the ones who like, "Well Williams didn't play many minutes, so who cares if he started?"
I'm getting a chuckle that you don't understand how the situations were completely different. Just compare Hamilton's and Williams' sophomore year stats and you can see how.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:00:53 PMWhat don't you agree with? Marquette is routinely near the top of college hoops in attendance. They spend a lot of money. This is a great basketball program. We should expect to win in Milwaukee against everyone and anyone.
Everyone will lose games at home, no big deal, but I still think we should expect to win. Have some pride in the program!
Agreed. We should have those expectations.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset. But that was the reality last year.
Thank God there wasnt a court rush
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2026, 12:58:08 PM^^^ the courage to make a "prediction" that although very unlikely, there's a chance is truly amazing. Kudos!
They don't call him alarmingly stupid for nothing.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 01:02:05 PMI'm getting a chuckle that you don't understand how the situations were completely different. Just compare Hamilton's and Williams' sophomore year stats and you can see how.
So when people were saying "we're really arguing over 90 seconds" when saying Hamilton is in line for 10 mpg and others pointed out he played 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games of the season, and now 90 seconds less than that (what EW averaged his sophomore year, while starting 11 games) is wildly different that Caedin?
Shaka overestimated what Caedin could be last year. He had him in the starting lineup when he never should have been. He realized that and, despite the fact that we only had Ben Gold, Royce Parham, and Josh Clark to compete for minutes with, Caedin only 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games. That includes two games where one of Ben/Royce was out with injury.
The counterpoint to that is "Well he played in the first half!" Yet EW is a bad counterpoint as a starter because he played...what was deemed as an immaterial amount of time less than what CH did over the last 19 games of the year?
Okay, I guess!
The reality is, Shaka went into the offseason and targeted a starting 5 and had Sheek signed up to return. I know JayBee is just doing schtick to get the rise out of people with anxiety over this that we're seeing, but Shaka didn't go into this offseason thinking, "Hey, we're in a great spot with Caedin." It's very clear he knew we needed an upgrade there. And the good news? He got one! One that is much better than Ben Gold was, and Royce will be a year older and hopefully stronger going into next season.
Of course it'd be nice to have another backup big. Someone like, say, Sheek Pearson on the roster. Like I've said, we can't bemoan Shaka for not playing the portal game, and then get mad when the portal game bites us once we jump into it.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 02:10:09 PMSo when people were saying "we're really arguing over 90 seconds" when saying Hamilton is in line for 10 mpg and others pointed out he played 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games of the season, and now 90 seconds less than that (what EW averaged his sophomore year, while starting 11 games) is wildly different that Caedin?
Shaka overestimated what Caedin could be last year. He had him in the starting lineup when he never should have been. He realized that and, despite the fact that we only had Ben Gold, Royce Parham, and Josh Clark to compete for minutes with, Caedin only 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games. That includes two games where one of Ben/Royce was out with injury.
The counterpoint to that is "Well he played in the first half!" Yet EW is a bad counterpoint as a starter because he played...what was deemed as an immaterial amount of time less than what CH did over the last 19 games of the year?
Okay, I guess!
The reality is, Shaka went into the offseason and targeted a starting 5 and had Sheek signed up to return. I know JayBee is just doing schtick to get the rise out of people with anxiety over this that we're seeing, but Shaka didn't go into this offseason thinking, "Hey, we're in a great spot with Caedin." It's very clear he knew we needed an upgrade there. And the good news? He got one! One that is much better than Ben Gold was, and Royce will be a year older and hopefully stronger going into next season.
Of course it'd be nice to have another backup big. Someone like, say, Sheek Pearson on the roster. Like I've said, we can't bemoan Shaka for not playing the portal game, and then get mad when the portal game bites us once we jump into it.
Back up centers no matta. Or so seems to be the new narrative.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 02:32:40 PMBack up centers no matta. Or so seems to be the new narrative.
Not nearly as much as a number of posters on here are making them out to matta.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2026, 12:58:08 PM^^^ the courage to make a "prediction" that although very unlikely, there's a chance is truly amazing. Kudos!
You've become a caricature of a caricature at this point.
Quote from: panda on June 03, 2026, 01:51:58 PMThey don't call him alarmingly stupid for nothing.
The only people here that think I'm stupid are actual stupid people, like yourself.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 02:32:40 PMBack up centers no matta. Or so seems to be the new narrative.
No one's said that.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 02:10:09 PMOf course it'd be nice to have another backup big. Someone like, say, Sheek Pearson on the roster. Like I've said, we can't bemoan Shaka for not playing the portal game, and then get mad when the portal game bites us once we jump into it.
Except no one is saying that. Not getting a Sheek replacement is the issue.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 02:10:09 PMOf course it'd be nice to have another backup big. Someone like, say, Sheek Pearson on the roster. Like I've said, we can't bemoan Shaka for not playing the portal game, and then get mad when the portal game bites us once we jump into it.
Are we now saying Shaka dipping into the portal for Fru is the reason Sheek left?
Quote from: Pakuni on June 03, 2026, 03:32:36 PMAre we now saying Shaka dipping into the portal for Fru is the reason Sheek left?
No. I'm saying that unlike just about every high major program, Shaka had been able to keep every player he wanted to from season to season, but he also hadn't dipped into the portal since his first season. We were never going to start getting into the portal AND retain every player we wanted to keep. That's just not reasonable whatsoever.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 02:34:19 PMNot nearly as much as a number of posters on here are making them out to matta.
If Mr. Pearson had stayed the board would froth over the lack of a third-string center.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 03:36:24 PMNo. I'm saying that unlike just about every high major program, Shaka had been able to keep every player he wanted to from season to season, but he also hadn't dipped into the portal since his first season. We were never going to start getting into the portal AND retain every player we wanted to keep. That's just not reasonable whatsoever.
It is unreasonable to expect reasonableness on Scoop.
Quote from: Badgerhater on June 03, 2026, 03:36:28 PMIf Mr. Pearson had stayed the board would froth over the lack of a third-string center.
And if Fru decided to leave halfway through the summer, the board would say it's not a big problem.
Boy, this game sure is dumb and waste of time!
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on June 03, 2026, 03:43:23 PMAnd if Fru decided to leave halfway through the summer, the board would say it's not a big problem.
Boy, this game sure is dumb and waste of time!
Yeah, nobody would say that.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:00:53 PMWhat don't you agree with? Marquette is routinely near the top of college hoops in attendance. They spend a lot of money. This is a great basketball program. We should expect to win in Milwaukee against everyone and anyone.
Everyone will lose games at home, no big deal, but I still think we should expect to win. Have some pride in the program!
FWIW - Marquette won 81 straight homes games between 1967 and 1973 - MU Pride
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 03:08:07 PMThe only people here that think I'm stupid are actual stupid people, like yourself.
This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on scoop. Not because I think you're stupid or some random crap like that.
This just sounds like something Ricky Bobby would say.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 04:09:21 PMThis is one of the funniest things I've ever read on scoop. Not because I think you're stupid or some random crap like that.
This just sounds like something Ricky Bobby would say.
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Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2026, 04:17:41 PM(https://y.yarn.co/e30ccb14-1947-4ebb-a87d-c6aa2eee2a7a_text.gif)
You really nailed that comeback!
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 02:10:09 PMSo when people were saying "we're really arguing over 90 seconds" when saying Hamilton is in line for 10 mpg and others pointed out he played 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games of the season, and now 90 seconds less than that (what EW averaged his sophomore year, while starting 11 games) is wildly different that Caedin?
Shaka overestimated what Caedin could be last year. He had him in the starting lineup when he never should have been. He realized that and, despite the fact that we only had Ben Gold, Royce Parham, and Josh Clark to compete for minutes with, Caedin only 8.5 mpg over the last 19 games. That includes two games where one of Ben/Royce was out with injury.
The counterpoint to that is "Well he played in the first half!" Yet EW is a bad counterpoint as a starter because he played...what was deemed as an immaterial amount of time less than what CH did over the last 19 games of the year?
Yes. Obviously.
Williams reached double digit minutes four times that year. Three against buy opponents. One a blow out win v. Providence. He didn't log a single minute for over a month from late January to late February.
Hamilton played in every game and racked up double digit minutes in ten Big East games, but also the five other P5 games they had on their schedule.
It's really a poor comparison.
EDIT: Also, Buzz basically said that the only reason Williams started those games was to prevent Jae from picking up an early foul. Hamilton was touted as a potential surprise. Their roles were expected to be completely different.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 12:00:53 PMWhat don't you agree with? Marquette is routinely near the top of college hoops in attendance. They spend a lot of money. This is a great basketball program. We should expect to win in Milwaukee against everyone and anyone.
Everyone will lose games at home, no big deal, but I still think we should expect to win. Have some pride in the program!
UConn is a better program and has been since Hurley has been there. The idea that Marquette should be favored at home v. UConn sounds good, but just isn't reality.
Quote from: panda on June 03, 2026, 04:29:25 PMYou really nailed that comeback!
It wasn't a comeback, dumbass. Like I said, stupid.
Quote from: The Sultan on June 03, 2026, 04:36:50 PMYes. Obviously.
Williams reached double digit minutes four times that year. Three against buy opponents. One a blow out win v. Providence. He didn't log a single minute for over a month from late January to late February.
Hamilton played in every game and racked up double digit minutes in ten Big East games, but also the five other P5 games they had on their schedule.
It's really a poor comparison.
EDIT: Also, Buzz basically said that the only reason Williams started those games was to prevent Jae from picking up an early foul. Hamilton was touted as a potential surprise. Their roles were expected to be completely different.
Correct. And then Shaka saw how the season was playing out with Caedin in the role he expected for him and adjusted that role. Once that happened, Caedin only really played when foul trouble or injuries occurred to one of our two capable front court players.
BUT HE PLAYED IN THE FIRST HALF!
Is starting not playing in the first half? So do first half minutes, even limited, send a season off the rails, or do first half minutes not matter?
Well, like a lot of things on Scoop, it changes depending on the narrative you're pushing, apparently.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2026, 09:43:28 AMOnly an upset because the team was one of the worst we have seen. I don't think Marquette beating UConn at home should ever be considered an upset.
This post reminds me of muwarrior69's in which he also blew off the W because he said UCONN was tired and it was a road game. He stated that he "would concede" that the team was better late in the season IF..
wait for it...we held Karaban to two points in a rematch. ?-( ::) ;D ;D ;D
He wins the prize for the most insane take from the game, but I award you a participation trophy.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on June 03, 2026, 05:25:31 PMThis post reminds me of muwarrior69's in which he also blew off the W because he said UCONN was tired and it was a road game. He stated that he "would concede" that the team was better late in the season IF..wait for it...we held Karaban to two points in a rematch. ?-( ::) ;D ;D ;D
He wins the prize for the most insane take from the game, but I award you a participation trophy.
Scoop taking what people say to the extremes? ABSOLUTELY.
He was clearly making a statement on the only reason its such a big upset is because of how bad Marquette was.
He's also very clearly saying that he believes Marquette shouldn't be proud of such an upset, because it should never have been considered a huge upset.
IE a #10 Marquette beating a #3 UConn at home is not shocking.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 05:42:27 PMScoop taking what people say to the extremes? ABSOLUTELY.
He was clearly making a statement on the only reason its such a big upset is because of how bad Marquette was.
He's also very clearly saying that he believes Marquette shouldn't be proud of such an upset, because it should never have been considered a huge upset.
IE a #10 Marquette beating a #3 UConn at home is not shocking.
;D ;D OK, OK. You get clearly get a participation trophy too. Happy?
"Marquette shouldn't be proud of such an upset." WOW! Just wow.
This thread is a treasure.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 03, 2026, 06:11:57 PMThis thread is a treasure.
You shouldn't be proud of this treasure, you should expect it.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2026, 03:36:24 PMNo. I'm saying that unlike just about every high major program, Shaka had been able to keep every player he wanted to from season to season, but he also hadn't dipped into the portal since his first season.
#FakeNews #Lies
Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2026, 07:39:57 PMYou shouldn't be proud of this treasure, you should expect it.
I meant more like something that should be buried on a remote island and forgotten.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on June 03, 2026, 05:53:17 PM;D ;D OK, OK. You get clearly get a participation trophy too. Happy?
"Marquette shouldn't be proud of such an upset." WOW! Just wow.
Im not the one who said it eh?
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2026, 07:45:21 PM#FakeNews #Lies
Show youre work nerd
I really hope you came here to fix the grammar jb.
Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on June 03, 2026, 11:32:07 PMShow youre work nerd
I'm not fixing the grammar but...
https://gomarquette.com/news/2022/4/18/mens-basketball-mubb-adds-loyola-new-orleans-transfer-zach-wrightsil
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 03, 2026, 06:11:57 PMThis thread is a treasure.
I dunno, the Crowdis thread has entered the Wilson-Dawson debate stage
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2026, 05:09:00 PMI dunno, the Crowdis thread has entered the Wilson-Dawson debate stage
Buzz should have been banished to Virginia Tech for starting Wilson over Dawson.
Quote from: jfp61 on May 27, 2026, 12:21:42 PMI'd rather start Michael Phillips II. No Chance Owens plays over Minessale without an injury.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 27, 2026, 12:48:11 PMSmoke sumthin
Two months later
Quote from: The Sultan on June 04, 2026, 04:26:06 AMI'm not fixing the grammar but...
https://gomarquette.com/news/2022/4/18/mens-basketball-mubb-adds-loyola-new-orleans-transfer-zach-wrightsil
Does an NAIA transfer count for the portal? I mean we wouldn't say Buzz was using the portal for getting Jucos, is NAIA different?
Quote from: jfp61 on July 23, 2026, 09:45:51 PMTwo months later
Bruh, fuhreal? Let me see the d (nh).
Weird victory lap, my guy. I've always said I think MPII can take a big leap - just don't see it for another year.
Hope you're laughing in my face 6 months from now, but you're already trying and it's T R A G I C.